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Gingrich pitch to conservatives: Don't vote for Santorum
politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ^ | 1/16/2012 | Shawna Shepherd

Posted on 01/16/2012 2:10:12 PM PST by TBBT

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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

That’s ridiculous. And you trust Gingrich? I’ll take Rick Santorum’s proven record of conservatism any day, thanks.


101 posted on 01/16/2012 5:14:32 PM PST by bjcoop
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To: newzjunkey

Speaking like a liberal there.....


102 posted on 01/16/2012 5:16:46 PM PST by bjcoop
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To: Lazlo in PA

I’m for Santorum as well. He’s the best person running right now.


103 posted on 01/16/2012 5:17:40 PM PST by bjcoop
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To: GraceG

I think Santorum would take that deal. Guarantee him the VP. Bring the Party together.


104 posted on 01/16/2012 5:18:46 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: CainConservative

OMG, as a woman I have to ask...What is wrong with women????


105 posted on 01/16/2012 5:36:15 PM PST by I_be_tc
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To: bjcoop
Seriously? For defending life and traditional marriage?

People have apparently forgotten what the role of POTUS was designed to be.

While both of those things are admirable, neither is in the job description.

106 posted on 01/16/2012 6:35:00 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: bjcoop
Seriously? For defending life and traditional marriage?

People have apparently forgotten what the role of POTUS was designed to be.

While both of those things are admirable, neither is in the job description.

107 posted on 01/16/2012 6:35:16 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Utmost Certainty

Really? Not a vote has been cast. Your tired nonsense is seriously in repeats. You say the same thing before every real vote only to be embarrassed by that horrid candidate of yours.


108 posted on 01/16/2012 6:41:23 PM PST by napscoordinator (Vote for the conservative with the most delegates, Santorum 2012!)
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To: elkfersupper
I am not going to engage in a word battle with any of you zombie-god people.

As a Christian of the reformed tradition I don't want to engage in a word battle, but I'll just respond if I may. I'm always open to a good conversation.

IMHO, an understanding of the Christian tradition of America is important to understanding freedom, prosperity and America's past and future.

The history of the reformed denominations in early America is a fascinating one, and if one understands the theological issues at dispute in England and the rest of Europe for a few hundred years prior to the "pilgrims" of 1620, and if one understands the basics of issues of the Reformation, one can gain essential insights into why the U.S. Constitution wound up reading like it does. IMHO, one really can't understand America without understanding what was going on in Europe prior to it's formation. And one can't understand that Europe without understanding theological issues surrounding the Reformation. IMHO, it is utterly amazing to see how the relationship between various Christian denominations that were in bloody wars during the Reformation were allowed to develop into the peaceful relationships we see between them in America today; and the invention of the printing press seemed to happen at the right time to cause Christianity to grow and strengthen out of all those struggles. It's almost like if it were a movie, people would say it was too fantastic to be realistic.

The true Christian perspective, incidentally, is exactly the opposite of "zombie-like", or perhaps we could say believing without thinking. In fact, the reformation movement began with theologians that questioned doctrine that had wandered away from Scripture, ergo, they sought to "reform" the Church to correct errors. While many "professing" Christians today are lacking in knowledge of true Biblical teaching, that does not mean that the Bible is wrong, but just that they do not know it very well. There are Christians who are very knowledgable of Scripture and know very well what they believe and why.

I am going to do whatever it takes to get Obama out of the oval office.

Obama is certainly acting contrary to America's interests. But we can't know the future, and current events can lead to future consequences - both good and bad - that we have no way of foreseeing in the present day. There is such a thing as a bad leader causing a "sleeping" people to wake up and see the errors of their ways, where a leader they "think is good" may in fact do just as much damage but since they think he is on their side they "stay asleep" and let him make those mistakes.

IMHO, America's real problem has been society going in a very bad direction for decades, and this was really caused by misguided ideas which actually started in the 1800's and some even further back in the 1700's. It's only now when the bad effects of this bad direction, which have been piling up for decades, start causing severe pain that those who can still think somewhat logically start getting stirred up enough to act.

In the American Revolution, there was a large part of the colonial population that remained loyal to the Crown and a large part that was ambivolent about the whole matter, or at least were too afraid to get involved. Political leaders are important towards effecting changes for the good, but a single leader is not the ultimate deciding factor in whether a nation succeeds or fails. General Washington conceded the role of the hand of God in the Revolution, probably starting notably with the early morning fog that enabled a successful escape to New York City recounted at washingtontimes.com, but certainly continuing with so many other circumstances which seemed "lucky" that after a while the notion of luck begins to strain credulity even for the most hard-hearted.

(Excerpted from washingtontimes.com)

"At the height of the battle, Washington saw with regret the slaughter of his best troops. With nothing in his power to prevent defeat of his men, no match to the disciplined British troops, out numbering them two to one, Washington had but two choices. He must either put all his forces into the battle at once, and risk all on a single battle, or evacuate the island. He went with the wiser plan of evacuation which entailed the movement of 9,000 men, horses, baggage, provision, and military stores from Long Island to New York City across the East River. During the thirteen hour transport, the British troops were not 600 yards away; it was said they could be heard at work with pick-axes. General Washington would not close his eyes for forty-eight hours, and was almost constantly on horse-back. Despite the urgings of his generals, he remained last upon the shore until all of his men had safely reached the other side.

Around 2:00 AM that night a heavy fog enveloped the whole of Long Island. The retreat was completed without interruption sometime after the dawn of the next day."

Source: The Life of George Washington, written by David Ramsay, 1807

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/truth-be-told/2010/jan/25/miraculous-escape-new-york-city/
109 posted on 01/16/2012 8:50:46 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: TBBT
Gingrich-Santorum
 
or
 
Santorum-Gingrich

110 posted on 01/16/2012 9:01:53 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Servant of the Cross

I’ll throw in with Gingrich. We have to outdistance Romney in South Carolina and Florida.


111 posted on 01/16/2012 9:04:30 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: I_be_tc

>> What is wrong with women? <<

Here’s the big problem:

A majority seem to dislike Newt, even a majority among self-described conservative women.

Sure, some female FReepers now probably will pipe up and tell us how much they adore Newt. Go ahead and flame me if you will.

But those flamers won’t be a representative sample — not representative of the American electorate as a whole and not even representative of the “average” GOP female voter.

Newt did a fantastic job last night. Even my Newt-bashing, ultra-conservative wife liked his performance. But she still ain’t for changing. Newt’s baggage is just too heavy.

In other words, Newt’s rhetoric simply doesn’t correspond to Newt’s reality. And the reality is this:

A dazzlingly brilliant, fire-breathing, puffy faced, overweight, angry, undisciplined and adulterous Newt simply ain’t gonna fly with the national electorate, especially given that this electorate has a female majority.


112 posted on 01/17/2012 7:10:12 AM PST by Hawthorn
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