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It's Baaaaaaaaack: Lamar Smith Says SOPA Markup To Resume In February
TechDirt ^ | January 17, 2012 | Mike Masnick

Posted on 01/17/2012 2:04:11 PM PST by transducer

For all the talk from some that SOPA was "dead," it appears it's alive and well and getting ready for its big re-entrance. Lamar Smith has just sent out a press release saying that he intends to resume the markup in February...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: censorship; freedom; internet; lamarsmith; pipa; sopa
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To: Sudetenland

TV/Movies Music

51 posted on 01/18/2012 5:11:44 AM PST by Bronzy
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Good, I'm glad Craiglist, Google , and wikipedia are fighting this government censorship of the Internet.

Hope they do it for more than one day.

The media has hidden this. Congress and the mainstream media are corrupt,socialist, statist, evil, criminal bastards. They are the enemy of freedom.

52 posted on 01/18/2012 5:33:22 AM PST by Democrat_media (China is destroying all our jobs and manufacturing ability. China makes everything.)
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To: Bronzy
Yep, single largest donor. Gee isn't that an amazing COINCIDENCE? /nod nod wink wink

#2 in 2010, #3 in 2008 and 2006. It's clear that Lamar has been bought and paid for.
53 posted on 01/18/2012 5:53:54 AM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: Paul R.

I agree that it is stupid to go after your fan base like that. But people can legally do stupid things. I think it’s stupid for McDonalds to charge more money for 2 6-piece McNuggets than for 3 4-piece McNuggets, but they have every right to do so, and I don’t get to arbitrarily decide that I should only pay $1.50 for a 6-piece nugget.

I assume in many cases the music companies own the songs, because they have paid for the rights. If there is something immoral about how they get the rights to the songs, we should target that with legislation, but that’s a different issue. More artists are self-publishing these days, so they own their own songs.

Most songs cost 99 cents now, if you just want an MP3. I don’t know how much ITunes charges for WMA. On the other hand, even with the poorer-quality youtube video sound, there is a huge number of people using online tools to strip audio from youtube for their own collection. Sometimes the artist encourages this, other times it’s just taking something for free when it’s easy to buy it.

BTW, I understand the idea of downloading a song you want when there is no way to buy it anymore, because it’s out-of-print and nobody has ripped it. But if the song is on Amazon for 99 cents, you shouldn’t decide “I like that song, but I think 99 cents is too much to pay, so therefore I am justified in stealing it”.

My daughter, whom I’ve given enough lectures about this for her to understand the concept, was wondering what the problem was with SOPA, and why I didn’t support it given my disdain for people taking music for free. I explained that the biggest problem is it makes every content provided personally liable for what users do — like YouTube being able to be sued if a random video is posted and has a song in it that wasn’t properly sourced.

I think so long as a provider offers a way for content owners to get their property removed on request, we are good. I think that’s how things are today. I think some sort of new law is needed to protect from foreign theft, but SOPA as currently defined isn’t it.

BTW, It’s amazing how many MP3s are online now. I’ve been picking up MP3 albums from my college years, as part of my conversion of my old albums/tapes to MP3 so I can retire my oversized stereo system before it breaks for good. And sometimes I get entire albums for $4.99 (Amazon just had a sale) — I even bought a couple MP3 albums when I still had a perfectly good record, just because it was worth the $5 to not have to record each song on the album in my MP3 recorder and then enter the information for the file.

54 posted on 01/18/2012 6:36:41 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: BuckyKat

A lot of so-called American conservatives make the mistake of assuming whatever is good for corporations is conservative, and it looks like Smith is one of those. There is something conservative in a European, old Tory, sort of way about propping up antiquated business models through government action, fighting against the law of supply and demand (that drives the price of goods that can be produced in arbitrary quantities at no marginal cost toward zero) on behalf of monied interests. Unfortunately, it is not what American conservatives, who should be conserving the American Founding, and thus be pro-market rather than pro-business, should be doing.

This is actually one of the reasons the theft of the word “liberal” by the left was a truly inspired act of evil (and you know what spirit inspires evil). In its original meaning — supportive of liberty, esp. of free markets — we who want to conserve the American Founding were the liberals (cf. party names in Australia), and the notion that we ought to be supporting status quo in commerce against innovation (in this case Hollywood and dead-tree publishing houses against the internet) would have been anathema to us almost reflexively.

55 posted on 01/18/2012 6:43:22 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: The_Reader_David


This Lamar Smith is so obviously bought out it is sad!

Human innovation is based on free ideas. Imagine if mathematical concepts were copyrightable, or language. The internet either remains a free exchange of ideas or all sites that may accidentally reprint copyrighted material, including this one, would get shut off the internet.

56 posted on 01/18/2012 7:49:08 AM PST by LibertyLA (fighting libtards and other giant government enablers!)
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To: LibertyLA

Ah, but some mathematical concepts — algorithms — aren’t just copyrightable, they’re patentable! And subject to export control as munitions in some cases! (As if enemy countries have no competent number theorists.) That alone is enough to show that the corrupt concept of “intellectual property” is a detriment to progress even without the problems it creates for derivative works in the arts and incremental advances in technology.

57 posted on 01/18/2012 8:48:18 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: The_Reader_David

Well put, and I agree.

58 posted on 01/18/2012 10:37:21 AM PST by BuckyKat (Green = the new red)
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To: mkjessup

“Smith got bought and paid for, that’s what happened, and he went cheap too, less than $100,000 in political donations from the industry benefiting most from the so-called ‘SOPA’ legislation.”

Most of Congress gets bought on the cheap too. They are bought with what most of the lobbies and big donors consider mere chump change.

The fact of matter is that SOPA and PIPA are 100% about adding regulations to the operation of the internet FTBO entertainment and Hollywood. I called my guys today and suggested we don’t need more regulations, and asked them not to support it.

59 posted on 01/18/2012 11:15:04 AM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: apoliticalone

Well Lamar Smith is one of the chief culprits in the House, which is why his corrupt RINO-ass should be bounced out of office at the earliest opportunity.

60 posted on 01/18/2012 12:03:47 PM PST by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front.)
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To: The_Reader_David
But wait until Facebook gets the right to copyright and patent your photos, your life experiences, your friends and DNA. You... Mr JQ public and noted as “we the people” will be required as a human to get a special exemption or pay royalties to Facebook Inc. to have children.

If you think this is far fetched, think again. There is no limit to the reach and extent of global corporations that claim to own intellectual property, the political world, and have patented your genes.

National sovereignty is almost as extinct now as privacy and those that get hung up on ideologies and politics as the problem, are going to be as extinct as dinosaurs. The mindset of most in Congress is a generation behind reality.

61 posted on 01/18/2012 6:27:43 PM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: transducer
Good Morning

Not much good at posting or I'd put this up, but - this morning's excuse for a newspaper here in San Antonio had an article about Smith and this joke of a bill. And for those of us yesterday that wondering about the cost of buying this Bozo's vote:

$88,000 from the TV/move/music industry
$63,500 from the computer industry

So now you know. For that hard to please person on your Christmas list next year, $150k or thereabouts will buy him his own obedient little butt-boy in Congress!

62 posted on 01/19/2012 7:09:07 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: I cannot think of a name
For that hard to please person on your Christmas list next year, $150k or thereabouts will buy him his own obedient little butt-boy in Congress!

When you consider the billions of dollars and political power at stake in the incumbent media establishment's quest to squelch Internet competition, Lamar Smith is a surprisingly cheap whore.

63 posted on 01/19/2012 11:57:33 AM PST by transducer
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To: transducer

“Lamar Smith is a surprisingly cheap whore”

The worst part about that story: I’ve actually gone to hear him speak, voted for him every time he’s run, and for years believed that he was one of the decent, moral, honest, and upright people in Congress.

And the worst part - given that the person running against him next time will undoubtedly be a typical south Texas democrap POS,,,,,

I’ll probably hold my nose and vote for him again!

Talk about feeling like a cheap whore!!!

64 posted on 01/19/2012 12:24:27 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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65 posted on 01/19/2012 12:44:18 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I can agree with almost all of that, except that in the case of YouTube, very often what you have is a video for which the audio may be available (very likely as a different recording) but the video is not available anywhere else, or is only available at some ridiculous price.* Personally, I almost never play YouTube vids just for the audio, and have yet to record audio from one, partially because the quality is so mediocre. Besides, if I like the music a lot, then I’ll buy the CD or DVD if it’s available.* However, the vids very often are entertaining, and it irks me to see material not available elsewhere taken down.

Though I understand and agree with your point about fan bases, my point is more that the music companies are missing a lot of potential sales by not simply asking posters to promote purchase of the CD’s or DVD’s, which can be of much higher quality. I think most posters would do that, and if it was marketed right, a lot of fans would respond.

In my younger years I taped everything I could, a lot of it off the radio... but I came to understand that it could sound a lot better, and eventually I ended up with a much larger than average record collection.

*In multiple instances I have paid $20 to $30 for a music DVD that I initially saw a piece of on YouTube, so that probably tells you where I am coming from. I would not pay over that, however, unless it was maybe for some very substantial work like a movies package (Lord of the Rings?) or something like that. I don’t have an income that will sustain more!

Also... You sound like someone who really enjoys music. I’ll bet that with the right speakers and a good amp, you’d eventually decide that MP3’s aren’t quite good enough. :-)

66 posted on 01/23/2012 11:58:27 PM PST by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: transducer

Lamar needs to be primaried.

67 posted on 01/24/2012 12:02:17 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: Buckhead
28 posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 6:07:55 PM by Buckhead: “In the current cycle, TV/Movies/Music industry are the #1 industry group contributing to his campaign and his “Leadership Pac,” “Computers/Internet are #2, and “Lawyers/Law Firms” are #5, and “Lobbyists” are #7.”

Glad to see you're still posting. I hadn't noticed posts from you for a while since your post regarding the reaction to Osama bin Laden’s death.

I've been reading Free Republic much longer than I've been posting or had a registered account, and I'm always glad to see posts by some of the “oldtimers” who made Free Republic into one of the first major examples of how “crowdsourcing” via the internet can change the course of American politics.

Keep up the good work, whether online or elsewhere.

68 posted on 02/02/2012 6:01:19 AM PST by darrellmaurina
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