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Surprise! Democrats Call for Plastic Bag Tax
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Posted on 01/18/2012 9:41:22 AM PST by Gopher Broke

For Immediate Release

Contact: Garren Shipley (540) 686-1138

Surprise! Democrats Call for Plastic Bag Tax -- Bill would add $1 to a grocery bill for every five bags --

Democrats in Virginia are often fixated on the gas tax, but sometimes they do come up with other ideas. Like making it more expensive for you to take home groceries.

Del. Joe Morrissey, D-Richmond, and Del. Scott Surovell, D-Mount Vernon, have put forward a bill that would charge hard working Virginia families 20 cents every time they bring home a bag from the grocery store.

Why? It's not about money, according to Morrissey. No, he just doesn't like the fact that people use plastic bags and he think they should stop.

"The goal is not to raise revenue through this tax but really just to change peoples' habits," Morrissey said.

Never mind the fact that thousands of families recycle their plastic bags already. Or that some Virginia companies actively encourage recycling because used plastic bags are their raw materials. Or that some families actively reuse their bags around the house.

Democrats don't like plastic bags, therefore everyone should pay more for groceries. Does that make sense?

Virginia Democrats: Do it our way, or pay up.


TOPICS: US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: plasticbag; rat; taxincrease; va
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1 posted on 01/18/2012 9:41:36 AM PST by Gopher Broke
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To: Gopher Broke; Corin Stormhands; jla; Flora McDonald; AdSimp; society-by-contract; NittanyLion; ...

Richmond ping.

Time to gear up and get busy.
The General Assembly is in session and they’re looking for ways to take more of your money.


2 posted on 01/18/2012 9:43:42 AM PST by iceskater (I am a Carnivore Conservative - No peas for me. (h/t N.Theknow))
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To: Gopher Broke

First they wanted to save the trees, so they went to plastic. Now they want to save the plastic, then they want to force the use of cotton bags. So we have to wash them and wste the water used to do that.

I wish they would just leave well enough alone.


3 posted on 01/18/2012 9:45:30 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Gopher Broke

Most democrats are brain diseased.


4 posted on 01/18/2012 9:49:35 AM PST by YourAdHere (If Michael Jackson had gone to jail he'd probably still be alive. Just saying.)
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To: Gopher Broke

Expect to see much more dog crap on your walks.


5 posted on 01/18/2012 9:50:09 AM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO.....!)
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To: Gopher Broke

I hop they plan on using the money to sterilize reusable bags between uses so people will quit getting sick from them.

Reusable bags are expensive, have to be washed between every usage (which means they use more natural resources over their lifetime than plastic), and transfer harmful bacteria to your food.

Plastic bags are cheap, recyclable, and are sanitary.

So, which one are the greenies behind? I swear, sometimes I think the greenies are making the wrong decisions are purpose. Nobody could be wrong this consistently due to pure stupidity.


6 posted on 01/18/2012 9:50:54 AM PST by Brookhaven (Mitt Romney has been consistent since he changed his mind.)
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To: Venturer

A conservative thinks it’s dangerous to ride a bike without a helmet, so he wears a helmet.

A liberal thinks it’s dangerous to ride a bike without a helmet, so he tries to pass a law requiring all bike riders to wear a helmet.

They think they are better than the rest of us. They think they are little gods.


7 posted on 01/18/2012 9:51:16 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Gopher Broke
[insert facepalm here]
8 posted on 01/18/2012 9:52:15 AM PST by McGruff (Go Nuclear Newt.)
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To: Gopher Broke

I’m not really surprised at this. Personally I prefer the paper bags, they were so useful for many other things once you got them home. And the plastic ones get used for used Cat litter. So it all works out I guess.


9 posted on 01/18/2012 9:52:28 AM PST by The Working Man (The mantra for BO's reign...."No Child Left a Dime")
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To: Gopher Broke

Time to go back to paper bags in VA.

Plastic bags were not that great idea to begin with, Wasnt that a ‘save the trees’ idea?


10 posted on 01/18/2012 9:52:35 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: Gopher Broke
Of course, they cannot expect poor people to pay this or to purchase their own, reusable bags, so there will be an exemption for those using food stamps to buy their groceries.
11 posted on 01/18/2012 9:52:43 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: Venturer

cotton bags. So we have to wash them and wste the water used to do that.

No need for that, that water contains valuable and
nutricious grocery molecules, save it for soups and
stews, or bathe in it, researchers have found that
regularly bathing in grocery water promotes smooth
skin and removes blotchyness.


12 posted on 01/18/2012 9:52:57 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Gopher Broke

So grocery stores are supposed to keep track of this and mail the taxes into the government? Idiotic feel-good nonsense.


13 posted on 01/18/2012 9:53:23 AM PST by rhombus
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To: cuban leaf

The moral busy bodies are at it again.


14 posted on 01/18/2012 9:53:41 AM PST by Col Frank Slade
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To: Gopher Broke

I use paper bags... just doing my part to keep a lumberjack employed....


15 posted on 01/18/2012 9:54:03 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: cuban leaf
A conservative thinks it’s dangerous to ride a bike without a helmet, so he wears a helmet.

A liberal thinks it’s dangerous to ride a bike without a helmet, so he tries to pass a law requiring all bike riders to wear a helmet.

Well said. Personally, I would approve of a tax on plastic bags if our representatives would agree to put them over their heads.

16 posted on 01/18/2012 9:55:53 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Gopher Broke
The original purpose of "saving paper" wasn't to save trees. It was to save landfill space. Trees are a crop that grow, are harvested, and made into useful products, just like soybeans or corn.

But, nobody cared to save landfill space that much, so the environmentalists sexed it up by making it sound like trees are some sort of endangered species. When plastic bags first came to market, they were hailed by environmentalists as a way to save trees. Now they're a symbol of evil consumerism.

Maybe I should start hoarding plastic shopping bags. Right now I can purchase 1000 of them for about $20. If this stupid tax goes into effect, that case will be worth $200.
17 posted on 01/18/2012 9:58:08 AM PST by Question Liberal Authority (I also think that Obama should be defeated.)
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To: sickoflibs
"Plastic bags were not that great idea to begin with, Wasnt that a ‘save the trees’ idea?"
I remember when this started, and the cashiers would ask paper or plastic, and I would always say, " I want to help save the environment. Put mine in paper.".... and the clerks would get downright nasty, lecturing me on the rainforest and crap. I would just tell them "The trees for this paper are grown on tree farms, that get replanted after harvest. Paper will break down in a landfill, plastic will not".... guess I was a man ahead of my time..
18 posted on 01/18/2012 9:58:12 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: Gopher Broke

Democrats playing to type: LYING THIEVES!


19 posted on 01/18/2012 10:00:08 AM PST by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi)
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To: Gopher Broke

What bugs me are baggers who only pu a couple of items in a bag. They use twice a many as needed. They are much stronger than most people think.


20 posted on 01/18/2012 10:00:22 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: Gopher Broke
Just north of there, in the People's Republic of Maryland, Montgomery County just instituted a new 5 cent "bag tax" on all plastic and paper bags (excepting paper bags for "ready made foods", like restaurant take-out).

What sucks about it is that I'm in lose-lose situation. If I don't change my habits, I have to pay an extra tax to the b*stards every time I go shopping. If I do change my habits, then they get their warm and fuzzy "green" feeling and move on to the next way to ruin my life.

21 posted on 01/18/2012 10:00:22 AM PST by kevkrom (Note to self: proofread, then post. It's better that way.)
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To: Question Liberal Authority

Good idea. I can add a stash of plastic bags to my hoard of 100W incandescent light bulbs.

I’m sitting on a veritable fortune....


22 posted on 01/18/2012 10:00:29 AM PST by iceskater (I am a Carnivore Conservative - No peas for me. (h/t N.Theknow))
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To: Gopher Broke

But just think of all the carbon that is being “trapped” in these bags and prevented from being released into the atmosphere.

Plastic bags are combatting climate change!

Save the plastic bags!


23 posted on 01/18/2012 10:01:43 AM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: Gopher Broke

How about the “old bag tax”. You could make a mint off of Helen Thomas.


24 posted on 01/18/2012 10:01:44 AM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: Gopher Broke
It's not about money, according to Morrissey. No, he just doesn't like the fact that people use plastic bags and he think they should stop.

This dude should move to California, he'd fit right in.

25 posted on 01/18/2012 10:02:19 AM PST by freespirited
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To: iceskater

Buy your 100 Watt light bulbs one at a time. With each purchase, insist that the clerk double bag the item using plastic bags. Fill your entire house with nothing but plastic bags and lightbulbs. Then call that show, “Hoarders” and become famous.


26 posted on 01/18/2012 10:06:42 AM PST by Question Liberal Authority (I also think that Obama should be defeated.)
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To: Gopher Broke
First the environmental statist wanted to do away with the paper grocery bag because making them was Deforesting the nation.

Now they want to do away with the plastic grocery bag because the plastic is not biodegradable.

I think what the Environmental Statist really wants is for everyone in the world dead and the plan is to make it so difficult to bring home food that we all give up and starve to death.

27 posted on 01/18/2012 10:11:54 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: joe fonebone
RE :”Put mine in paper.”.... and the clerks would get downright nasty, lecturing me on the rainforest and crap

LOL, rain forest trees....morons

South Park Rainforest Shmainforest (1999)
Closing caption: "Each year, the Rainforest is responsible for over three thousand deaths from accidents, attacks or illnesses. There are over seven hundred things in the Rainforest that cause cancer. Join the fight now and help stop the Rainforest before it's too late."

Mr Garrison's class hosts a lecture by choir teacher Ms Stevens, who is leading a childrens choir for the cause, “Getting Gay With Kids.” When Stan, Kyle, Kenny and Cartman disrupt the speech, Mr Garrison sends them to the Principal's office, where Mr Mackey decides that a fitting punishment should be for the four of them to join the choir on their upcoming trip to Costa Rica. The only one who does not object is Kenny, who has grown infatuated with one of the girls in the choir named Kelly.

Upon making it to Costa Rica, Cartman (naturally) becomes the most vocal of the kids, putting down the city as well as the residents of the place, much to Ms Stevens’ exasperation.

Before the presentation the next, day Ms Stevens and the kids are treated to a tour of the rainforest, but end up lost when their guide is eaten by a snake. Their attempts to get out are thwarted as they find a group of revolutionaries, large bugs. Cartman finally has enough and wanders off on his own, finding a logging company.

Even though he has hated the trip so far, Cartman and the loggers manage to rescue the others and Ms Stevens, who have been captured by local natives.

By the end of the entire trip, everyone on the choir has grown disenchanted by the rainforest, and at their choir performance, change the lyrics to reflect the need to destroy the rainforest.

South Park" Rainforest Shmainforest (1999)

28 posted on 01/18/2012 10:13:52 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: Gator113

Cmon man, you need to invent the 1st 100% cotton dog crap carryall with scooper attachment


29 posted on 01/18/2012 10:18:22 AM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: Venturer
They found E Coli inside the reusable bags. If you don't wash them, they become used Diapers with handles.
30 posted on 01/18/2012 10:21:22 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Liberals, Useful Idiots Voting for Useless Idiots...)
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To: CIDKauf

Great idea. LOL


31 posted on 01/18/2012 10:24:16 AM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO.....!)
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To: Gopher Broke

Morrissey:

http://dlcc.wiredforchange.com/o/5991/p/wfc/web/candidate/biography/public/


32 posted on 01/18/2012 10:24:25 AM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Gopher Broke

They have already started in super-liberal Montgomery county of MD. My nearest Trader Joe’s is in Montgomery county, and they charge 5c for every bag (but they use paper bags).


33 posted on 01/18/2012 10:24:45 AM PST by gingerales
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To: Gopher Broke

They should put plastic bags over their heads.


34 posted on 01/18/2012 10:26:49 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Gopher Broke
The city of San Jose flat out banned them.

I now shop in Santa Clara.

If San Jose can't trust me with plastic bags, I can't trust them with my tax dollars.

35 posted on 01/18/2012 10:32:49 AM PST by null and void (Day 1093 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: dragonblustar
How about the “old bag tax”. You could make a mint off of Helen Thomas.

Senile Agitation

36 posted on 01/18/2012 10:42:33 AM PST by null and void (Day 1093 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: joe fonebone
I'd just blandly say we can always plant more trees, people DIE for oil...
37 posted on 01/18/2012 10:46:03 AM PST by null and void (Day 1093 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: joe fonebone

You were not alone. We too always demand paper as the plastic doesn’t break down in the landfill as paper does. It was common knowledge back when the Left, the Environmentalcases pushed to have the plastic bags rather than paper.

The stats about the rainforests back then were so obviously hyped it was ridiculous. I’ve forgotten now what was claimed, but the rainforests would not have existed in a matter of a few months at the rate they claimed.

Environmentalism is just an excuse for lying.


38 posted on 01/18/2012 10:50:34 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Gopher Broke

Just under two bits for a plastic grocery bag. It’s a sin tax, dontchaknow.


39 posted on 01/18/2012 10:50:41 AM PST by asinclair (Think outside of the bag)
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To: Gopher Broke

Another regressive Democrat tax on the poor.


40 posted on 01/18/2012 11:04:18 AM PST by reg45 (I'm not angry that Lincoln freed the slaves. I'm angry that Franklin Roosevelt bought them back.)
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To: reg45

Notice the liberals never mention adding a tax to plastic bags used by newspaper companies on rainy days.


41 posted on 01/18/2012 11:15:27 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: rockinqsranch

Most paper bags come from recycled cardboard. I especially like the bags from places like Trader Joes that have handles glued onto the paper bag.

However, I also like the plastic ones to line my bathroom and office trash cans.


42 posted on 01/18/2012 11:22:22 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: kevkrom

Bring your own plastic bags you ordered online.

http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/product.jsp?productId=170094&pid=CSE_Froogle&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=109680

.015 each ;) Now.. if sams or the etailer is required to collect the tax... I don’t know what to tell ya.


43 posted on 01/18/2012 11:25:44 AM PST by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: Gopher Broke

They can wear those bags tied completely over their heads!

In fact i prefer they do so.


44 posted on 01/18/2012 11:44:10 AM PST by GraceG
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To: Kickass Conservative

[They found E Coli inside the reusable bags. If you don’t wash them, they become used Diapers with handles.]

I think i will just buy a roll of Hefty kitchen bags whenever I go shopping and demand at the register they pack my groceries in them, it would be more sanitary.


45 posted on 01/18/2012 11:47:26 AM PST by GraceG
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To: aimhigh; reg45
Notice the liberals never mention adding a tax to plastic bags used by newspaper companies on rainy days.

My local fishwrap has at least 1 plastic bag around every single paper they deliver even though we're having a very serious drought.

46 posted on 01/18/2012 11:58:50 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: null and void

I am doing the samething. I refuse to shop anywhere in San Jose if possible. I work in Santa Clara, so I pick up groceries on the way home.


47 posted on 01/18/2012 12:13:04 PM PST by dc27
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To: reg45

No doubt, eh?

Saw it the other day - they were offering a chance to get 20 bucks if ONLY you used the cotton! And this is in TX. Grrr. I came here to get away from lefty nonsense.


48 posted on 01/18/2012 12:45:39 PM PST by BenKenobi
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To: aimhigh

bump


49 posted on 01/18/2012 1:29:38 PM PST by CitizenM (Obama's legacy will be to be remembered as The architect of the decline of the USA)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Of course it depends on what you carry in them, but it is true they need to be cleaned.


50 posted on 01/18/2012 4:20:20 PM PST by Venturer
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