Michael Douglas as one of the stars of the movie "Wall Street" -- a Vulture Capitalist who bought companies, bought stock, then dumped it before gutting the companies and ruining people's lives.
Good movie. Check it out sometime.
Posted on 01/18/2012 7:48:04 PM PST by VinL
An InsiderAdvantage poll conducted Wednesday night has former House Speaker Newt Gingrich now leading the Republican primary race in South Carolina.
The poll of likely Republican primary voters has Gingrich with 32 percent, ahead of Mitt Romney who trailed close behind at 29 percent.
The results are a significant reversal for Romney, who had led polls before Tuesday's Fox News debate. A poll conducted by InsiderAdvantage last Sunday showed Romney with a double-digit lead over Gingrich.
The InsiderAdvantage poll is the first major South Carolina survey after the debate. Gingrich has been crediting with winning the debate.
The poll found that support for Ron Paul and Rick Santorum is faltering, with both pulling 15 and 11 percent, respectively.
Texas Gov. Rick Perry finished last with just 3 percent of the vote. Three percent of those polled selected "other candidate" and 7 percent said they had no opinion.
The survey polled 718 registered Republican voters.
Read more on Newsmax.com: InsiderAdvantage
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If you’re going to persist in calling me delusional when I’m playing for your team after SAT, you’re going to eat a big plate of crow.
I suggest you refrain.
Now it’s 30 points of differential. By tomorrow morning it might flip.
Politics - 2012 US Primaries
South Carolina Primary (Republican)
Contract Bid Ask Last Vol Chge
STH.CARO.ROMNEY
Mitt Romney to win the 2012 South Carolina Primary M Trade 75.9 77.4 77.5 26445 -15.7
STH.CARO.GINGRICH
Newt Gingrich to win the 2012 South Carolina Primary M Trade 20.2 22.8 22.8 17416 +15.8
I’m all in for Newt Gingrich, but I like Rick Perry second best. He’s the most personable and likable and he’s so friendly, nice and gracious in person, too. I am certain he would keep his word as president. I was surprised he didn’t get the endorsement of the Evangelical pastors. I guess they watch polls, too.
This probably isn’t the best thread to opine, but I’ve been thinking how different the results might be were one of the first primaries in my state of Mississippi for example, instead of New Hampshire or Iowa. I’m willing to wager Romney’s $10,000, that Southerner’s Perry and Gingrich would both be leading the Massachusetts moderate going into Iowa or New Hampshire.
OPEN primaries, in two purple states, permitted the Ron Paul vote and Romney to win.
But, it is what it is. The GOP is the stupid party.
Ironically the Cain attacks may have immunized voters against these kind of tactics.
“I do agree, that the decision to air it tomorrow night may be influenced by certain quarters”
I think that is just it. They had the interview in the can and were waiting to air it at the right moment. It just so happened the right moment in their minds came up sooner than they probably thought.
Michael Douglas as one of the stars of the movie "Wall Street" -- a Vulture Capitalist who bought companies, bought stock, then dumped it before gutting the companies and ruining people's lives.
Good movie. Check it out sometime.
Probably. They were planning on airing it monday. Likely as they figured after SC no one would care about Newt anymore and Monday would be the last day he’d have any relevance. Sort of a kick him while he’s down. The media never liked him and this was thier last chance to rub it in and dance on his corpse.
Now, they saw the polls, and moved it up.
Because Santo isn't doing anything but wasting his, and his supporters' time and money, while splitting the conservative vote.
I tried to tell you after Iowa, that Rick's poll numbers would revert to trend, and they're doing just that, day by day.
I don't personally have anything against the man, but like Bachmann, he's over-reaching in his bid for the presidency. He would have had a much better chance at the nomination, if he were a sitting Senator.
When he was a Senator, he didn't make the sort of large impact on national politics that could carry him through to a presidential run while out of office. Heck, most Americans aren't even sure who the guy is.
Rick is still young enough to serve a term as a state Governor, then come back to the presidential contest with some real governing stats and 'gravitas'. Even that's no guarantee that he'll ever win his party's nomination, but he'd have a real shot, in my opinion.
Speaking of winning Iowa..
I think early tomorrow morning Willard’s gettin’ bad news out of Iowa.
And we can ALL congratulate Senator Ricky Santorum for it!
Ironically the Cain attacks may have immunized voters against these kind of tactics.
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lainde, could have. But, millions of dollars of negative ads against Newt in Iowa, NH, and now SC-— What more can they possibly say about him that isn’t known? Seriously.
If Rush and the gang deal with this properly- and call it for the smear attack that it is- and rally folks against it——Newt will come out the better because Romney will look like the most craven, creepy politician imaginable.
Does anyone else here on FR feel like they are losing their mind?!!! These Primaries are causing such see-saws that I feel I am going to lose my sanity!
I don’t really want to say this, having been for Perry since he declared his candidancy... but I do think that this is the time for him to shut down his campaign and endorse Newt as the official opposition against Romney. Based on current polling, that would given Newt enough of a fudge factor to carry South Carolina.
Same with Santorum.
Now get ready for the “whack a mole” from LSM and others to try to drive him down again”.
It’s always been in Newt’s hands. He loves to debate.
The only thing that’s not in his hands is the control of the debate, and the questions, but he has his way of making the best of every question and the time allocated him.
Tomorrow night, he might have to be more forceful, -— interrupt if he’s ignored -— but I have been watching CNN instead of Faux, -— and I think several of their hosts despise Romney so Newt might get more time than I anticipate.
I’m praying.
GO NEWT!
God be with Newt!
I suggest you refrain.
Now, that's a sourpuss attitude, if I ever saw one. If you want to quit making delusional posts, I'll quit calling them that. Perhaps the one I responded to on this very thread, will be your last.
That would be good for me, and even better for you, because I don't intend on eating any crow, when you're the one who'll have to admit that I was right all along.
Who’s buying all this talk about Newt being a catastrophically flawed candidate? Please.
Since when has being a ladies’ man been this big deal? Does anyone really believe that moderate women voters are going to get all offended just because Gingrich repeatedly cheated on both of his previous wives with younger, hotter women? Are women voters really going to care that he glibly destroyed not one but two marriages to move on to greener pastures? Callista is nearly a quarter-century Newt’s junior. Of course he traded up! Sheesh.
Besides, does the GOP really need women voters to win in the general election?? As if!
you still have your sanity???? God love you (LOL)
“Because Santo isn’t doing anything but wasting his, and his supporters’ time and money, while splitting the conservative vote.”
That vote split isn’t hurting Newt in any way shape or form. As for him wasting his supporter’s money, isn’t that something that he and his supporters should decide for themselves?
Let me ask you something. Would you prefer Romney to be in second or third?
“I tried to tell you after Iowa, that Rick’s poll numbers would revert to trend, and they’re doing just that, day by day.”
His poll numbers a month ago were one percent. Pushing out Santorum now, is premature. He’s going to be continuing onto Florida, regardless of what happens here in South Carolina.
“he’s over-reaching in his bid for the presidency.”
I don’t see how he’s overreaching when we are talking about supporting a sitting congressman. Again, a Senator has considerably more support than a congressman.
“When he was a Senator, he didn’t make the sort of large impact on national politics”
Actually, I would argue, yes he did. I would wager that if you asked folks to name any of the senators in his class, that Santorum would be one of the first names that come up. How many Senators make such a mark that the homosexual lobby go out of their way to attack him? Santorum, yes. Whom else?
“Heck, most Americans aren’t even sure who the guy is.” That was true of Cain until October. Everyone else, Santorum included, had good name recognition. Do I need to cite a stat?
“Rick is still young enough to serve a term as a state Governor, then come back to the presidential contest”
Same nonsense we were dealing with Cain. Newt has never been a governor. If we want a governor, than Perry, not Newt is our man. You seem to have a list of credentials, that Newt doesn’t fulfill, and yet, Newt is the best candidate here.
I agree with you that executive experience is nice to have, but I don’t regard it as particularly essential.
“he’d have a real shot, in my opinion.”
Eh, I’m really tired of nominating losers, but I guess the Newt folks will get their just desserts.
You try to prevent the party from making a big mistake, but what can you do when the party is bound and determined to make them.
If Newt wins in SC - then yes, I’ll back him, but I expect Obama to win and then we can look to 2016 to back a real conservative. :)
When we come back in a years time, don’t say I didn’t warn you.
How do you know about the internal polling?
No, that’s called taking one for the team.
If I’m delusional now, then clearly, I’m not helping you when I’m supporting Newt, eh? :D
Based off of that piece of information... can considering the similarities between Santorum and those two... I would hazard that when Santorum does drop out of the race, he will endorse Romney as well.
Yep.
I’d hazard that most social conservatives would get a tingle up their leg if they read that the federal government had banned abortion and was increasing the size of the FBI to properly enforce it.
(of course, not realizing what else a plussed up FBI can do)
A Newtritious balance specially formulated for conservatives.
Both Ricks being CONSERVATIVES will endorse Speaker Newt who they both have said they admire.
Willard the LIBERAL will get Charlie Crist though. Woo hoo!
Jeb Bush and Huck will wait till the Tampa convention for obvious reasons.
Maybe she is just sweet on Paul, and working with him, sure would be an exact duo. Both Loons
The Santorum die hards really do not like Mitt, that is why they are still supporting Santorum as an anti Mitt. I do not see those supporters flocking to Mitt if Santorum endorses Mitt.
So that endosrement, should it occur, will be of little benefit to Mitt.
They (supporters) may have their sails deflated though.
Agreed. But Newt isn’t a sitting Congressman.
He was the Speaker of the House, #2 in line to the Presidency. He ran the Congress. He was the leader of the party and the top conservative/Republican on the natl scene for a few years. He was the architect of the 94 victory and it was largely his own personal doing.
You can’t just compare him to some normal Congressman.
If Newt wins in SC - then yes, I’ll back him, but I expect Obama to win and then we can look to 2016 to back a real conservative.
Boy, have you got a case of sour grapes.
Hey, don't hurt yourself. If you honestly believe the conservative right is making a mistake by backing Newt for the nomination, by all means, go with your conscience, and vote write-in, or just concentrate on the down-ticket races.
Like you said, Newt doesn't need your vote.
Yahhhooooooooooooooooooooooo. I knew this would happen and finally the polls I wanted to hear. This is GREAT NEWS, and I believe the momentum will carry through. Yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
There is NO CHANCE that Obama being happily married to the same woman with two adorable little girls in an intact family will contrast sharply with Newt’s promiscuous past. There is no way this will siphon away large numbers of women voters who would have normally defaulted to an acceptable alternative.
Not a chance.
I just look at the Resumes, and I choose Newt, for this year, but I like Perry now that he is feeling better. I’d consider him, if he ran again.
Bump that.
Where did all these former posters and insiders from the old days go?
women didnt seem to care about Cinton’s promsicuous past compared to Bush41 who was married to the same woman. Or Dole who I think was on his 2nd wife but here was no allegation of infidelity or anything.
greeneyes, Gov. Perry is very likeable. But even when I supported Sarah, then Cain- I always felt that Newt would be the best person to “redirect” the country in 2013. He did it in 1994. I just didn’t think he’d ever get this far. But, now that he has, I’m all in for him.
The same was said about Huntsman in New Hampshire... and look who he endorsed.
Santorum and Huckabee are very similar on their views and what they campaigned on in their respective elections... and Huckabee has already endorsed Romney.
And considering that their views are so similar, I’d hazard that Santorum will come to the same conclusion as Huckabee when the time comes. For it’s in his nature.
And the Santorum fans will again be disappointed.
What's not to 'get'? Perry has been a piss poor salesman, and has failed to close the deal with the voters throughout the campaign. His supporters have done a far better job of selling him, than he's done selling himself.
Not to knock the guy, but since I've been watching him, I've never seen him take down any serious opponent in a race. I voted for him twice, and each time, he was running against others who were so odious, that even I could have beaten them.
'Nuff said on all that. I'm not trying to rub in your disappointment. I like the Governor, but I'd rather see him back here at home, doing what he can to address the issues that are hurting Texans.
I made a promise and I’ll keep my promise.
If Sarah Palin can drag for as long as she did McCain, then I can do the same for Newt.
As for sour grapes - I’ve said that from day one. You can go look it up.
IMHO it's more to keep folks from jumping ship to Newt.
huckabee hasnt endorsed anyone. do you have any evidence he endorsed romney?
Yeah, but Clinton’s promiscuous past was not verified until AFTER he won re-election. The whole Lewinski scandal blew up after Clinton was sworn back into office.
Before that there were unconfirmed rumors of possible infidelity that he and Hillary adamantly denied. (Yes, she stood by her man.)
Unlike Gingrich, Dole only had two wives - neither of which he cheated on. But Dole lost big in the general election.
But like I said, who really thinks we need moderate women voters to win in the general election anyway??
I don’t think so. Folks said the same about Cain, and he hasn’t endorsed Romney either.
“He is still by far the most appealing candidate in the race, but the establishment, both RINO and conservative simply won’t have it.”
I like a lot about Perry, but I can’t get past his immigration stuff...
So, if Newt wins this and then loses to Obama, do we all have to deal with Romney running again in 2016 or is this it for him?
This is great news for Newt Gingrich. If he is perceived as the frontrunner it will make more Santorum and Perry supporters vote for him in the primary.
Speaking about his bitter ex-wife. He always treated her good. There are stories on the internet about their marriage. They were basically separated for 6 years leading up to the divorce, didn’t live together. She worked with Newt on the campaign trail. But he met his current wife, and filed for a divorce. It hurt this Marianne gal, but life is not a bed of roses and life goes on. Newt never abused her in any way, but she loved being married to a powerful congressman. She needs to let it go. Hopefully any voters that watch her hit piece on him will realize that she’s just being a hard ass because she’s no longer married to him. I don’t think it amounts to much. She needs to let it go. I guarantee you he’s still paying her alimony.
See post #86, to which I was originally replying to.
Given that Newt is the undisputed master of jaw-jitsu, I'm comfortable with that "if". Mitt doesn't stand a chance.
Nah, Romney will switch parties- run as a Dem.
Everyone knew about Clinton’s promiscuity in 92 and in 96. Maybe not the speifics on Monica. But everyone knew he was a hound dog. And Clinton would have beaten W in 2000 even after the Monica stuff came out if he could have gone for a 3rd term.
I agree with you in general. I think if the economy is bad enough it won’t matter, though. Just as it didn’t in 92. Clinton wouldn’t have won with a good economy.
My point is that it will not help Romney, just as Huntsman's endorsement did not, because Santorum's supporters by definitiion reject Romney at face value.
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