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Gingrich Daughter's Teen Work May Have Violated Law [US Dept. of Labor: Child Labor Laws Broken?]
MSNBC ^ | January 18, 2012 | Eve Tahmincioglu

Posted on 01/18/2012 10:03:15 PM PST by Steelfish

Gingrich Daughter's Teen Work May Have Violated Law

By Eve Tahmincioglu During the Republican presidential debate this week, Newt Gingrich shared a story about how his daughter worked as a church janitor when she was only 13.

“I was actually proud of my clean bathrooms,” Jackie Gingrich Cushman said in an telephone interview Tuesday, referring to the janitorial job she held at the First Baptist Church in Carrollton, Ga., in the early 1980s. “I learned work has value.”

But that work may have been a violation of federal child labor laws that her father has denounced as “stupid.”

Cushman was 13 when she took the part-time, minimum-wage janitorial job, scrubbing bathrooms two days a week using cleaning supplies and a bucket. She said working as a janitor was a "great experience." Asked if she was working legally as a janitor for the church, Cushman said, "I certainly hope so."

But based on child labor laws in effect now and in the 1980s, 13-year-olds are not allowed to hold janitorial jobs, said Michael Hancock, assistant administrator for policy in the wage and hour division of the U.S. Department of Labor.

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1 posted on 01/18/2012 10:03:18 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Oh, this is just stupid.
Based on the is story it would be against the law to have kids to chores.


2 posted on 01/18/2012 10:05:01 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: Steelfish

Good for Newt and his daughter. I proudly gave the middle finger to the g-nannies when I was 13 and started working for pay.


3 posted on 01/18/2012 10:06:01 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: Steelfish

They can put that law where the sun don’t shine.

Every kid I grew up with worked.


4 posted on 01/18/2012 10:06:06 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: dagogo redux

I had a paper route when I was 9 or 10.


5 posted on 01/18/2012 10:08:02 PM PST by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: Steelfish

Newt’s moving up in the polls.


6 posted on 01/18/2012 10:09:01 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: svcw

My parents would have been in prison. Abe Lincoln’s also....government has to get out of parenting business. They have done enough destruction of the family—marriage and children/education through their unconstitutional laws. They have no right to interfere and chores make mature adults.

Look at Ben Franklin’s life and everyone’s prior to government destruction of perseverance and responsibility in kids by the 70’s. Destroy the family-—Marx’s mantra. Get power over the kids and forming their worldview and make them lazy and disrespectful of the family unit. Divide-—make parents evil......mean....Prevent children from learning valuable life lessons. Everyone who amounted to anything would have their parents in prison under the fascists today.


7 posted on 01/18/2012 10:11:25 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law.)
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To: Steelfish

The MSM will really be hitting the Republican nominee before the election. They’ll protect 0bama like flies on dog crap.


8 posted on 01/18/2012 10:12:33 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Steelfish

Wow, the LSM is getting desperate.


9 posted on 01/18/2012 10:12:52 PM PST by piytar (The Obama Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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To: Steelfish

The Rats at PMSNBCLSD are getting desperate. LoL.


10 posted on 01/18/2012 10:14:27 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: savagesusie
Destroy the family-—Marx’s mantra. Get power over the kids and forming their worldview and make them lazy and disrespectful of the family unit. Divide-—make parents evil......mean....Prevent children from learning valuable life lessons. Everyone who amounted to anything would have their parents in prison under the fascists today.

I'm reading 1984 for the first time in years...what you wrote sounds JUST like the book.

It was meant to be a warning. Not a field guide.

11 posted on 01/18/2012 10:16:09 PM PST by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: Steelfish

I call bullcrap! When I was 13 in 1978 and in NY State I had a C.E.T.A. job where I worked 10 hrs per week durinng school term and 25I hours per week during the summer as a janitor. I had kids on the playground calling me the ty d bowl kid but every two weeks I had a paycheck in my pocket. Years later when I was in US Army basic training I had a leg up on a lot of fellow trainees because I already know how to get a spit shine buffed floor thanks to my fiirst supervisor, Ted Manns.

There is nothing wrong with learning a good work ethic early in life.


12 posted on 01/18/2012 10:16:23 PM PST by Finatic (I ran out of change and have given up on hope. FUBO, I am so sick of your sorry a$$ you effin punk)
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To: Steelfish

Michael Hancock, assistant administrator for policy in the wage and hour division of the U.S. Department of Labor, is an ASS!
Likely also one of those that say our children are not getting enough exercise and becoming obese slobs!


13 posted on 01/18/2012 10:16:32 PM PST by GOYAKLA (Recall/ Impeachment Day, November 6, 2012. FUBO)
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To: bushwon
I had a paper route when I was 9 or 10.

I had to wait until I was 11. The paper required carriers to be 12 but I got tired of waiting and lied about my age.

14 posted on 01/18/2012 10:17:00 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Steelfish

So this is what the bottom of the barrel looks like. Crud everywhere. Needs to be scraped.


15 posted on 01/18/2012 10:17:47 PM PST by jessduntno ("'How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think." - Adolph Hitler)
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To: bushwon

I went from a paper route to baby sitting to doing clean up work on construction sites..my friend had the church janitors job. I did need a work permit from my school Principle to work at 13. I wanted the money. We weren’t poor, but my folks did not give me money for nothin. The free market paid me better. At 15 I was making twice minimum wage working construction in the summer and doing proposal drawings at night. Plus homework and other things. Kids today veg out and think they have it hard. I loved those pay checks. From 15 on my parents didn’t give me a cent. They gave me all I have...it wasn’t money.


16 posted on 01/18/2012 10:18:43 PM PST by Oldexpat
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To: Steelfish

He’s definitely dropping out now. /s


17 posted on 01/18/2012 10:19:10 PM PST by bramps (zero from zero is zero)
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To: Steelfish
Labor Department, hmmmm another department that should be abolished.
18 posted on 01/18/2012 10:21:38 PM PST by Chgogal (WSJ, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et. al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: Steelfish

Here’s hoping Newt doubles down and smacks common sense [back?] into these effin’ morons/parasites.


19 posted on 01/18/2012 10:21:46 PM PST by KJC1
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To: Steelfish

If your family is not rich and you are a mature child with good morals, self respect and skills, you love working for your own money no matter what the law is. If that law existed back then, I was jail bait. Every kid in my family was jail bait.


20 posted on 01/18/2012 10:23:05 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Steelfish

The idiots commenting there make me sad for mankind. Are they kidding with this story?


21 posted on 01/18/2012 10:24:19 PM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: Steelfish

These are the same idiots that go after the kids that sell lemonade.


22 posted on 01/18/2012 10:25:16 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Newt’s moving up in the polls.

Yep. And if he gets the nomination, whoa baby. While Hussein hides his history, Newt will undergo cavity searches.

23 posted on 01/18/2012 10:25:47 PM PST by Right Brother
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To: Steelfish
Personally I don't think there should be any such lawa!!

I violated them 60 years ago working on construction but I was smart enough to keep my mouth shut!

Government shouldn't be allowed to deny a person the right to make a living at whatever they want to do.

If I want to jeopardize my life it's my business and no one elses.

I've always lived by the premise if it saves time and I have a 50% chance of survival I do it government be damned!!!!!

24 posted on 01/18/2012 10:26:05 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Steelfish
But based on child labor laws in effect now and in the 1980s, 13-year-olds are not allowed to hold janitorial jobs, said Michael Hancock, assistant administrator for policy in the wage and hour division of the U.S. Department of Labor.

These odious rats remind me of the "do-gooders" in Babylon who couldn't wait to rat out Daniel for violating the king's decree, the decree they suggested in the first place, in order find excuse to heave Daniel into the lions' den.

>>>assistant administrator for policy in the wage and hour division of the U.S. Department of Labor<<<

Good Lord. Exhibit A for bloated government leech positions. This guy needs real work. Toss him a toilet brush.

25 posted on 01/18/2012 10:26:44 PM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: Zeppelin

I reread it also....Read Brave New World next. It is all coming true-—and they have the little kids all preforming sex acts by age 5 or maybe younger and we now have the disgusting Jerry Brown trying to sexual 5 year olds and putting anal sex into their minds to destroy their morality and corrupt their thinking.

Very disgusting. Egalitarianism is totally disgusting-—and has to be complete slavery to keep everyone equal. People don’t know how sick Marxist ideology truly is-—they think it is “utopia”.

Nope—it is vast boredom and destruction of all biological connections. Think of it-—children don’t have a loving mother-—and father-—they have no humanity. They are owned by the state. They are like ants.

Think about your happiest memories....it is always about people you love and freedom.


26 posted on 01/18/2012 10:27:12 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law.)
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To: Steelfish
I BEGGED to be allowed to walk beans when I was in first & second grade. You see, the crew Dad hired was composed of HS Cheerleaders...I thought they were so cool with their bikinis & suntans! He finally complied, and allowed me to walk, assigning me one row..and of course no sharp knife like the older girls carried to cut down the big weeds.

By the time I was a little older we (me and several friends) were riding on seats on a bar on the front of a tractor (no seatbelts), and spraying the weeds with Round-up. It was colored with a purple dye so you could see that you had hit the weed with enough agent to kill it. By the end of each day, we had ever better tans and completely purple feet (CALL HAZMAT!!).

Of course, the major danger was from Dad who was driving the tractor. After a few hours, we had a tendency to nod off a bit...he took care of that by throwing empty pop cans at our heads.

27 posted on 01/18/2012 10:28:13 PM PST by garandgal
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To: SaraJohnson

And now we question why there are Wall Street Protesters??? The media is to blame for all the ills and wrongs in this country.


28 posted on 01/18/2012 10:28:33 PM PST by Tamatoa (Fight for our America, Fight for our Country I fought to defend!!!)
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To: Steelfish

And the statute of limitations is??? Go F yourself MSM,,


29 posted on 01/18/2012 10:29:24 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Steelfish

I mowed the grass at my church. I doubt that any laws were broken.

Give me a break.


30 posted on 01/18/2012 10:31:22 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> - - -)
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To: Steelfish

ROTFL.

MSNBC says it all.


31 posted on 01/18/2012 10:31:41 PM PST by Christie at the beach
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Excerpt:

Mortimer, author of Working and Growing Up In America...

"... In addition to displacing adult workers, it would “likely expose teens to difficult, and possibly hazardous, work conditions, lots of bending and lifting... etc."

So some young football aged kid is more likely to strain his back than a 67 year old nearing retirement?

Have the schools outlawed school wrestling too? We don't want Little Johnny hurting himself...

32 posted on 01/18/2012 10:34:08 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

“Newt’s moving up in the polls.”

Yessiree...

And it’s driving the liberals, establishment, CINOs, and RINOs nuts.

And I love it! :~)


33 posted on 01/18/2012 10:34:37 PM PST by CainConservative (Newt/Santorum 2012 with Cain, Huck, Petraeus, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: svcw

This is just another example of outlandish, mindless, and gratuitous Federal overreach. What provision of the Constitution’s enumerated powers could possibly be stretched to cover who can and can’t clean out a bathroom in a church?


34 posted on 01/18/2012 10:35:19 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Steelfish

Michael Hancock, Team Leader at the Wage & Hour Division
of the Department of Labor and a former Executive Director of the Farmworker Justice Fund


35 posted on 01/18/2012 10:36:25 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Steelfish

Now that they’re going after Newt’s family members, he could be home free on Saturday.


36 posted on 01/18/2012 10:37:45 PM PST by CainConservative (Newt/Santorum 2012 with Cain, Huck, Petraeus, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: Steelfish

BFD My first job was working at a movie theatre, lied about my age. was 15 legal age 16. Just about every kid lied and got a job when I was in high school...Media is stuck jackass’s. Does anyone really care when his daughter started working.........GG


37 posted on 01/18/2012 10:40:26 PM PST by goat granny
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To: Steelfish
Desperate, desperate, desperate MSNBC.
38 posted on 01/18/2012 10:40:53 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: Steelfish

What a stupid thing. They are sure digging in the bottom of the toilet bowl for something now!


39 posted on 01/18/2012 10:40:53 PM PST by ConfidentConservative (If my people shall humble themselves and pray,I will hear from Heaven and heal their land.)
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To: Steelfish

Well, this is an opportunity for Newt.
He articulates and connects well on the root cause of these
types of problems. Government. Big Damn Government.


40 posted on 01/18/2012 10:42:03 PM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take?)
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The left is very very scared..their butt buddy Romney isn’t looking too good, and they are seeing the poll numbers that are showing Newt rising up. This shows what we already know, the left wants Romney to be the nominee BADLY


41 posted on 01/18/2012 10:43:46 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Steelfish

This is the left at its most desperate.

When I was 13, I got my first steady job soliciting newspaper subscriptions for the Houston chronicle. Before that, I had mowed lawns, cleaned pools and threw a paper route.

My next job was sacking groceries in a supermarket until they made me a checker. This was all before I had graduated from junior high school.

While I was in high school, I worked as a clerk for 7-Eleven and U-Tot-M convenience stores, an attendant at a Texaco station (premium was 33.9 at the time) and a delivery driver for an auto parts store. I had a summer job testing computer tape for Texas Instruments.


42 posted on 01/18/2012 10:44:35 PM PST by Josh Painter ("The only thing these 'investments' will get us is a bullet train to bankruptcy." - Palin)
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To: Steelfish

Labeled prices and spotted nails from 5-11
Paper route 12-14 (got in the way of sports (rifle team - oh the horrors))
Lifeguarded 15-17
18 was April of senior year
I was at USNA with my stipend by July


43 posted on 01/18/2012 10:46:57 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: svcw

Yeah. Wonder if my parents would have been arrested when we were taking care of cows, chickens, our huge garden plus the cotton patch my uncle had on our farm. Guess who took care of that! We grew all our veggies, chickens/eggs, beef and pork. We also had fruit trees and they did not take care of themselves. Wonderful memories. Why bring something like this now?


44 posted on 01/18/2012 10:46:59 PM PST by MamaB
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To: savagesusie

Couldn’t have said it better myself!!

Whenever someone challenges me in such logic, I always ask them what their fondest memories are. They’ll tell me and I’ll use LibLogic (as much as it hurts my brain) to explain to them why they “shouldn’t” have been allowed to do those things in the first place.

You love riding 4-wheelers out at the family ranch? Not only is that polluting the environment with those dirty engines, but why isn’t the land being used as farmland for the common good?

You love skiing? Do you realize that ski slopes effectively destroy entire landscapes??

Fishing with your grandfather? It’s safer and much more economical and less polluting to purchase farm-raised fish than to burn $150 in gas on a $30,000 boat, all for a haul of a half dozen fish.

...aaaaaaand so on and so forth.

I’ve found that when you use that same logic to hit someone where they have a soft spot, it really drives the point home and opens their eyes.


45 posted on 01/18/2012 10:46:59 PM PST by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: vbmoneyspender

“I proudly gave the middle finger to the g-nannies when I was 13 and started working for pay.”

I was working for pay at TWELVE, as a Soda Jerk at a drive-in Root Beer stand. Two summers of that, then I got a job part-time job as a freshman at an Ayr-Way Department Store, and did summer farm work on the side, as well.

Didn’t hurt me a bit. In fact, I had one of the nicer cars at school, and paid for it myself.


46 posted on 01/18/2012 10:47:24 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: Steelfish

Add me to the list as well. Steady rotation of cutting grass in the summer and snow shoveling in the winter...Oh, add tax evasion to that as well.


47 posted on 01/18/2012 10:47:36 PM PST by Kaosinla (The More the Plans Fail. The More the Planners Plan.)
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To: Steelfish

When I was 12, I started working at my Dad’s Gas Station on Saturdays, 7 AM to 10 PM. The word “allowance” was not part of my Dad’s vocabulary.

When I was 10, I had an afternoon Paper Route, six days a week. Delivered the papers and then went door to door once a month to collect the money.

My Dad is 88 now, so I don’t think he’ll last too long in Prison for violating Child Labor Laws. As for the Glendale News Press, I guess Eric Holder better get working on that.


48 posted on 01/18/2012 10:49:52 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Liberals, Useful Idiots Voting for Useless Idiots...)
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To: Steelfish

I’m outraged! How dare Newt’s daughter work! That’s against the law!

(MSLSD is simply making Newt’s case that federal child labor laws are CRAP!)


49 posted on 01/18/2012 10:49:52 PM PST by CitizenUSA (What's special about bad? Bad is easy. Anyone can do it. Try good instead!)
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To: Steelfish; xzins

I guess all those boys doing paper routes and mowing lawns were breaking the law as well.

Kids should be learning to make money when they are old enough to ride their tricycles down the street. When I was 5 I used to go door to door collecting empty bottles from my neighbors with my little red wagon and I took them down to the neighborhood store to cash them in. I could make as much as $1.50 on a Saturday.

I also used to get money from my grandmother when I was 6 or 7 for walking down to the neighborhood store to buy her a pack of Lucky Strikes. I’d get to keep the change.

Times have changed.


50 posted on 01/18/2012 10:50:04 PM PST by P-Marlowe (NEWT!!! Because everyone else is just average.)
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