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Iowa Republicans to call caucus result split decision
Reuters via Yahoo News ^ | 19 Jan 2012 | Reuters

Posted on 01/19/2012 4:30:07 AM PST by edpc

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Iowa Republican Party will certify this month's presidential caucuses as a split decision between former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney and former Pennsylvania senator Rick Santorum, citing missing data from eight precincts, the Des Moines Register reported on Thursday.

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"It's a split decision," the newspaper said, citing a party official in the state. There are too many holes in the certified total from the caucuses to know for certain who won, it said.

When Romney was declared the winner, it was a "squeaker." When Santorum comes out the winner, the process "has holes."

1 posted on 01/19/2012 4:30:12 AM PST by edpc
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To: All

This past November, there was a school levy on the ballot in my area. On election night, it was up by 20 votes. After the recount, it lost by 34. We didn’t decide to split the difference and allow them to raise our taxes by half of what they wanted.


2 posted on 01/19/2012 4:32:16 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: edpc
What a wimp out, amateur hour performance by the Iowa GOP. “Missing data” from eight locations?? This whole sorry affair stinks.
3 posted on 01/19/2012 4:33:21 AM PST by Truth29
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To: edpc

Smells like bullshit.


4 posted on 01/19/2012 4:33:46 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: edpc

The Iowa “Republican Party” is a RINO, Rommney “bought and paid for” POS!


5 posted on 01/19/2012 4:34:58 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: edpc
Romney-the-RINO LOST in IOWA, but the State-Run-Media can't admit it, now will the Establishment Republican Elite (Romney-the-RINO is "The Chosen One").
6 posted on 01/19/2012 4:35:25 AM PST by traditional1 (Free speech for me.....not for thee)
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To: edpc

OK.. so when Mittens wins by 8, it`s a “victory.” Santorum wins the recount and it`s a “split decision.” Really, GOP???


7 posted on 01/19/2012 4:35:47 AM PST by ScottinVA (Liberal logic: 0bamacare mandate is acceptable... but voter IDs are unconstitutional.)
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To: edpc
Speculations now are superfluous—the GOP RINO elite establishment and the DNC are in cahoots to FORCE WILLARD DOWN OUR THROATS!!!

I like Santorum better but I may have to vote for Newt Saturday just to stop Mitt!

8 posted on 01/19/2012 4:36:07 AM PST by Happy Rain (The more regulations the better chance of violating them and coming under the heel of the tyrant.)
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To: Admin Moderator

I missed the other Santorum/Romney story already in breaking. This thread doesn’t need to be in that category.


9 posted on 01/19/2012 4:38:57 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: Truth29

Ah, well... Iowa will be firmly in 0bama`s camp anyway come November. That pi$$-poor example of a state GOP is partly to blame.


10 posted on 01/19/2012 4:39:30 AM PST by ScottinVA (Liberal logic: 0bamacare mandate is acceptable... but voter IDs are unconstitutional.)
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To: Happy Rain

Santorum needs to quit and allow Gingrich to win. Santorum is just helping Romney.Santorum is wrong in supporting this horrible tyranny called SOPA . The SOPA bill allows government to censor and destroy the Internet.

Santorum is no conservative.


11 posted on 01/19/2012 4:41:26 AM PST by Democrat_media (China is destroying all our jobs and manufacturing ability. China makes everything.)
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To: edpc

So when Romney was ahead by 8 votes, he was the winner.

Now with Santorum winning by 34 votes, it’s a tie.

LOL!


12 posted on 01/19/2012 4:42:06 AM PST by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else.)
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To: edpc
citing missing data from eight precincts

Sounds pretty inept. With months of attention placed on Iowa, this happens? Thanks a lot Iowa.

13 posted on 01/19/2012 4:42:43 AM PST by rhombus
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To: edpc

Bad news for Mitt-Now he can’t claim “two wins” and big MO!


14 posted on 01/19/2012 4:46:47 AM PST by JSDude1 (https://www.newt.org/donate)
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To: edpc
What gives with all these "squeaker" elections where "additional votes" were found in someone's trunk?

The ballots should never leave the polling place without - at least - a preliminary count, in front of multiple witnesses.

The likes of the obama regime is killing the election process in America, and someone had better straighten it out before we become a full dictatorship, which may well happen if obama is re-elected.
OBAMAPPOTUS
15 posted on 01/19/2012 4:46:47 AM PST by FrankR (What you resist...PERSISTS!)
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To: edpc

What kind of banana republic is this?


16 posted on 01/19/2012 4:49:21 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Happy Rain
I like Santorum better but I may have to vote for Newt Saturday just to stop Mitt!

That sounds like the advice my favorite non-candidate gave. While I prefer Newt (VERY reluctantly), I'd vote for Santorum if it would help stop Romney.


17 posted on 01/19/2012 4:49:33 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Truth29

Corrupt bastards. They cannot say Mitt won both Iowa and New Hampshire anymore, but they sure as hell are going to deny the claim that Santorum can say he won Iowa. The Fix is so IN it STINKS.


18 posted on 01/19/2012 4:49:45 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Santorum vs. Romney: 1 state a piece. **SANTORUM** is leading Conservative in Delegate Total To-Date)
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To: edpc
What is the delegate total now?
19 posted on 01/19/2012 4:50:20 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: rhombus

What are the odds something like that happens with other states in Nov?


20 posted on 01/19/2012 4:50:20 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: edpc

A caucus is a lousy way to select delegates.

Iowa is a lousy place to select anything except the token yahoo who demands ethanol subsidies from the gov’mint.

It is not God’s country. It is not the heartland. It is a bunch of pretentious jerks pretending they have a clue who is best qualified to serve as president based upon who kisses their @sses the most for a year or so.

We belittle historical courtiers who s*cked up to kings to curry favor yet expect our presidential candidates to do the same to the Sun King wannabes residing in Iowa. B.S.

It’s time for Iowa to be the 50th state to vote and they should learn how to operate a GOP primary, preferably one that disallows Democrats and “independents” from voting in it.


21 posted on 01/19/2012 4:51:33 AM PST by peyton randolph (Sad sack of Mitt = Obama)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Don't say that. We have a black president. It's racist.

/s

22 posted on 01/19/2012 4:51:59 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: Democrat_media

Santorum needs to quit and allow Gingrich to win.

Your crazy. And to think that Santorum is not a conservative is even more crazy. I don’t remember Santorum having multiple marriages and bopping every trashy woman in skirt like Newt has. I don’t recall Santorum sitting next to the most liberal vial woman on the planet like Newt did with Nancy. I don’t remember Santorum calling capitalism a horrible thing like Newt has. I don’t recall Santorum thinking that paying more taxes to the IRS is a wonderful idea like Newt does. I don’t remember Santorum endorsing a radical liberal like Scuzzynova like Newt did. I don’t recall Santorum making 1.6 million dollars off the failed Fanny-Fredy garbage. Yes Santorum is 100 percent more conservative than Newt.


23 posted on 01/19/2012 4:53:53 AM PST by napscoordinator (Vote for the conservative with the most delegates, Santorum 2012!)
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To: FrankR

That will never happen. Some question the fact he will be inaugurated again


24 posted on 01/19/2012 4:53:53 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: edpc

banana-split lol


25 posted on 01/19/2012 4:54:17 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: ScottinVA
OK.. so when Mittens wins by 8, it`s a “victory.” Santorum wins the recount and it`s a “split decision.” Really, GOP???

The Republican party is seriously taking on water. It's getting closer and closer to "abandon ship" time if you're a conservative.
26 posted on 01/19/2012 4:54:25 AM PST by Antoninus (Mitt Romney -- attempting to execute a hostile take-over of the Republican Party.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
What is the delegate total now?

Iowa doesn't assign any delegates from the caucuses. It's actually just a beauty contest. They assign their delegates much later (at a party convention if I remember rightly).

27 posted on 01/19/2012 4:55:55 AM PST by Aunt Polgara
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To: traditional1
"REAL CLEAR POLITICS" www.realclearpolitics. MUST CHANGE THEIR PRIMARY TOTE BOARD. THEY HAVE ROMNEY AS THE WINNER IN IOWA BY 0.1% OF THE VOTE. ERROR.

Also, the fact the mainstream media cannot bring themselves to say that Romney actually lost in Iowa to Rick Santorum, surely shows how much they want HIM, ROMNEY, TO FACE OBAMA for the simple reason he will be defeated. Clear as the moon in the sky.


28 posted on 01/19/2012 4:57:08 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Santorum vs. Romney: 1 state a piece. **SANTORUM** is leading Conservative in Delegate Total To-Date)
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To: peyton randolph

The first Republican state should be Texas.

Pray for America


29 posted on 01/19/2012 4:58:58 AM PST by bray (More Batting Practice for Newt the Bambino)
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To: Aunt Polgara
Thanks. Not counting Iowa, do you know what the count is?
30 posted on 01/19/2012 5:00:04 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: napscoordinator
Ricky "SOPA" Santorum is a collectivist big government statist, not really much of a conservative IMO:
"This whole idea of personal autonomy, well I don’t think most conservatives hold that point of view. Some do. They have this idea that people should be left alone, be able to do whatever they want to do, government should keep our taxes down and keep our regulations low, that we shouldn’t get involved in the bedroom, we shouldn’t get involved in cultural issues. You know, people should do whatever they want. Well, that is not how traditional conservatives view the world and I think most conservatives understand that individuals can’t go it alone." [Source]

"What was my vision? I came to the uncomfortable realization that conservatives were not only reluctant to spend government dollars on the poor, they hadn’t even thought much about what might work better. I often describe my conservative colleagues during this time as simply ‘cheap liberals.’ My own economically modest personal background and my faith had taught me to care for those who are less fortunate, but I too had not yet given much thought to the proper role of government in this mission." –Rick Santorum, p. IX It Takes a Family: Conservatism and the Common Good (2005)

"I suspect some will dismiss my ideas as just an extended version of ‘compassionate conservatism.’ Some will reject what I have said as a kind of ‘Big Government Conservatism.’ Some will say that what I’ve tried to argue isn’t conservatism at all. But I believe what I’ve been presenting is the genuine conservatism our Founders envisioned. One that fosters the opportunity for all Americans to live as we are called to live, in selfless families that contribute to the general welfare, the common good." –Rick Santorum, p. 421 It Takes a Family: Conservatism and the Common Good (2005)

"If you're a conservative, there really is only one place to go right now. I would even argue farther than that. If you're a Republican, if you're a Republican in the broadest sense, there is only one place to go right now and that's Mitt Romney." –Rick Santorum, 02/1/2008 [source]
Also check out Santorum's stinky voting record.

That being said, I dislike these duplicitous tactics on part of the media and the RNC to deny him what may well be a legitimate IA win.
31 posted on 01/19/2012 5:00:12 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: bray
Boston Herald Bullcrap:

" Wins in Iowa and N.H. could propel Mitt through South By Dave Wedge Wednesday, January 4, 2012 - Updated 2 weeks ago + Recent Articles+ Email+ Bio E-mail Print (0) Comments Text size Share A strong showing in Iowa followed by a big win in New Hampshire could turn Mitt Romney into a juggernaut as he heads into Florida and South Carolina — crucial primary states where the former Bay State governor has imposing organizations and widespread support, experts say. “He could be on a roll before he gets down here,” Florida Republican strategist Frank Torres said, referring to the Sunshine State’s Jan. 31 primary. “He’s got a full ground operation here and is ready to rock and roll. Florida could be the nail in the coffin for Mitt Romney to get the nomination.” "

32 posted on 01/19/2012 5:00:59 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Santorum vs. Romney: 1 state a piece. **SANTORUM** is leading Conservative in Delegate Total To-Date)
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To: napscoordinator
Santorum is for SOPA = allowing government to censor and destroy the Internet. He says there are limits to free speech. What a moron.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830637/posts

Also look at his record.

Actually out of the 4 stooges I prefer Perry. The only thing iffy is his illegal immigration position. Then Gingrich. Santorum is a big government moron : look at his record. He needs to quit now. Santorum is splitting the conservative vote and giving the nomination to Romney.

33 posted on 01/19/2012 5:02:31 AM PST by Democrat_media (China is destroying all our jobs and manufacturing ability. China makes everything.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
What kind of banana republic is this?

One run by these guys....

America's Ruling Class -- And the Perils of Revolution By Angelo M. Codevilla from the July 2010 - August 2010 issue

34 posted on 01/19/2012 5:03:32 AM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: Utmost Certainty

I know he has some votes that I would rather he not have voted for. However, you have to remember we had a Republican Congress and President. Had he said no to some of these votes, he would have been criticized on Free Republic by some for not being supportive of President Bush. I know for a fact that is true. Some Republicans who went against President Bush were demonized on here.


35 posted on 01/19/2012 5:03:32 AM PST by napscoordinator (Vote for the conservative with the most delegates, Santorum 2012!)
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To: bert

I hope you’re right, Bert...I hope you’re right.


36 posted on 01/19/2012 5:04:13 AM PST by FrankR (What you resist...PERSISTS!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Santorum won and Mitt lost even with his $20 million in ads, end of discussion.

Pray for America


37 posted on 01/19/2012 5:06:18 AM PST by bray (More Batting Practice for Newt the Bambino)
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To: Democrat_media
A lot of conservatives disagree with your opinion of Santorum—like Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh.
They think Santorum and Perry are the only two genuine conservatives left in the race—in fact The Great One said he would vote for Rick S today if he could.

But Newt is better than nothing aka Mitt.

38 posted on 01/19/2012 5:06:53 AM PST by Happy Rain (The more regulations the better chance of violating them and coming under the heel of the tyrant.)
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To: napscoordinator

I’m actually for Pat Buchanan. I wish he would run. He has been right by being against 3rd world immigration, against illegals and against “Free” trade with China since the 1990’s.


39 posted on 01/19/2012 5:07:07 AM PST by Democrat_media (China is destroying all our jobs and manufacturing ability. China makes everything.)
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To: napscoordinator

It’s not so much Santorum’s voting record that concerns me—what’s alarming to me is his expressed philosophy on the role of government, etc.

I don’t like it. I don’t want government playing culture warrior on my behalf as Santorum seems to idealize. I want government to LEAVE ME ALONE.


40 posted on 01/19/2012 5:07:15 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Smells like bullshit.

Taste it, it's even worse.

When mittens wins by 8 votes he won IOWA, when the count is Santorum up by 34 votes, it's too close to call and it is declared a TIE.

Call me stupid, but winning by 34 is winning by 34. PERIOD.

If they now claim that certain votes "cannot be found", then you go with what you got.

When demonRATS are allowed to vote in pubbie elections, fraud will occur, the demonRATs just look at this as practice for the November elections.

41 posted on 01/19/2012 5:08:34 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke The Terrorist Savages)
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To: Happy Rain

Well they are wrong. SOPA is the worst attack on freedom I have seen . Government will use SOPA to censor and destroy the Internet and so our freedom. And Santorum is for SOPA.


42 posted on 01/19/2012 5:09:17 AM PST by Democrat_media (China is destroying all our jobs and manufacturing ability. China makes everything.)
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To: Utmost Certainty

I guess putting so much emphasis on Santorum’s marriage might not be the best tactic. Oh I don’t vote until April so basically it will be over by then most likely.


43 posted on 01/19/2012 5:11:13 AM PST by napscoordinator (Vote for the conservative with the most delegates, Santorum 2012!)
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To: JSDude1

Republican Delegate Count
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Delegate totals are from The Associated Press.

Last Updated: Jan. 11

20

Mitt
Romney
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12

Rick
Santorum
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0

Newt
Gingrich
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2

Jon
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3

Ron
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0

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Perry
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1144 delegates needed to win nomination

2249

Delegates


44 posted on 01/19/2012 5:13:24 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Santorum vs. Romney: 1 state a piece. **SANTORUM** is leading Conservative in Delegate Total To-Date)
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To: Democrat_media
I or we weren't disagreeing with you on SOPA only on your saying Santorum is no conservative--and not meaning disrespect I will take their word over yours.
45 posted on 01/19/2012 5:13:39 AM PST by Happy Rain (The more regulations the better chance of violating them and coming under the heel of the tyrant.)
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To: Truth29
Well, Wikipedia was fast. Here is there map. One state for Santorum, one state for Mittens:


46 posted on 01/19/2012 5:15:25 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Santorum vs. Romney: 1 state a piece. **SANTORUM** is leading Conservative in Delegate Total To-Date)
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To: Happy Rain
Don't take some radio entertainer's word for it what Ricky Santorum is. Take his own words that prove Santorum is for government regulating the Internet.So Ricky is against freedom and liberty period and so cannot be a conservative.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830637/posts

“There is, and can be, a limitation on that. You know, freedom of speech. The things you can’t say. You can’t cry ‘fire’ in a crowded theater. And there are limitations to all freedoms. They’re not absolute rights. They are rights that have responsibilities that come with them, and if you abuse those rights… then you have a consequence of you using that right.”

Santorum identified piracy as an abuse of one’s rights. While acknowledging that the internet can be “a powerful force for good,” he argued that making it a “regulation-free zone” would be the wrong approach.

47 posted on 01/19/2012 5:18:47 AM PST by Democrat_media (China is destroying all our jobs and manufacturing ability. China makes everything.)
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To: edpc
Let's see if I got this straight....

First vote....mittens has 8 more than ricky....

Iowa newspapers: "Romney WINS!!!"

Recount...

mittens has 34 fewer votes than ricky....

Iowa newspapers: VOTE IS A TIE!!

Uh....I don't get it...I surely don't.

Or....is Iowa trying to convince the nation that they really are as big a joke as the rest of us think they are?

48 posted on 01/19/2012 5:20:46 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (N/A)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
What kind of banana republic is this?

Its the kind that does not grow bananas and that is no longer a republic.

49 posted on 01/19/2012 5:21:22 AM PST by C210N (Dems: "We must tax you so that we can buy your votes")
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I believe your count is off—I will post the link below for the totals of Iowa.


50 posted on 01/19/2012 5:22:15 AM PST by World'sGoneInsane (We Can Take OUR Country Back--Perry 2012)
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