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Iowa Republicans to call caucus result split decision
Reuters via Yahoo News ^ | 19 Jan 2012 | Reuters

Posted on 01/19/2012 4:30:07 AM PST by edpc

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Iowa Republican Party will certify this month's presidential caucuses as a split decision between former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney and former Pennsylvania senator Rick Santorum, citing missing data from eight precincts, the Des Moines Register reported on Thursday.

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To: AmericanInTokyo

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/IA-R


51 posted on 01/19/2012 5:22:54 AM PST by World'sGoneInsane (We Can Take OUR Country Back--Perry 2012)
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To: bray
The first Republican state should be Texas.

Why?

52 posted on 01/19/2012 5:24:58 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: World'sGoneInsane
Pledged GOP 2012 delegates, per Associate Press, not my calculation, from their running site, live (as of right now).

But does show Santorum leading the Conservative vote for delegates. (As Mitt is a RINO and Paul is an Anarchist), that puts Santorum leading anti-Romney Conservatives for delegate total.

53 posted on 01/19/2012 5:27:28 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Santorum vs. Romney: 1 state a piece. **SANTORUM** is leading Conservative in Delegate Total To-Date)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Say it loud; say it proud: mitt lost Iowa!!! Not tied. He gave a victory lap that night. He claimed he won. Well, Santorum didn’t get his victory lap or speech.

Congrats, Santorum!


54 posted on 01/19/2012 5:27:46 AM PST by Yaelle (moneybomb for Santorum: $1m by Sat! https://www.ricksantorum.com/)
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To: edpc

Because it is a large conservative state and would help eliminate Rino selections.

Pray for America


55 posted on 01/19/2012 5:30:16 AM PST by bray (More Batting Practice for Newt the Bambino)
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To: Utmost Certainty
The issue here is the vote tally in Iowa. It has nothing to do with Santorum's position on any issue.

It is outrageous that they can't count eight districts, because they threw the votes out after they were tallied. Wouldn't it make sense that they be held until final certification?

56 posted on 01/19/2012 5:33:30 AM PST by World'sGoneInsane (We Can Take OUR Country Back--Perry 2012)
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To: edpc

Wow where is the Drudge screaming headline ??
I forgot Matt is for mittens .
Thanks Coulter !


57 posted on 01/19/2012 5:36:57 AM PST by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: bray

Not so sure about that, given the primary history. You could argue the votes may have been different if the primary was earlier. IMO, that just tells me the electorate there is not as independent as some would believe.


58 posted on 01/19/2012 5:38:06 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Of course the AP shows Gingrich and Perry with 0. However, they picked up 4 and 3 respectively. Just thought I'd mention they are still in the race ;)
59 posted on 01/19/2012 5:38:54 AM PST by World'sGoneInsane (We Can Take OUR Country Back--Perry 2012)
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To: World'sGoneInsane
Wouldn't it make sense that they be held until final certification?

Of course that makes sense—if you're running a fair election with a well-documented paper trail. Obviously the RNC, etc. isn't interested in that.
60 posted on 01/19/2012 5:40:46 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: US Navy Vet

The entire GOP is in the tank for progressive Republicans. This announcement is no surprise.

Wake up conservatives, wake up!


61 posted on 01/19/2012 5:44:08 AM PST by CSI007
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To: World'sGoneInsane

Iowa is all “Soft unpledged” delegates. Here’s the breakdown:

Romney - 6
Santorum - 6
Paul - 6
Gingrich - 4
Perry - 3

Iowa was essentially a 3-way tie from the get-go.


62 posted on 01/19/2012 5:56:46 AM PST by magritte
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To: edpc

lol

If Romney wins by 8... it’s a HISTORIC victory!

If Romney loses by 34... it’s a split decision!

I hate the media, the RNC, and Romney. The whole lot of them are not worth a bucket full of spit!


63 posted on 01/19/2012 6:07:48 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: edpc

Both Iowa and New Hampshire are reliably democrat states. It’s way past time for the Republican party to allow only reliably republican voters to choose their own candidate.


64 posted on 01/19/2012 6:08:09 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: edpc
> "It's a split decision," the newspaper said, citing a party official in the state. There are too many holes in the certified total from the caucuses to know for certain who won, it said.

>> When Romney was declared the winner, it was a "squeaker." When Santorum comes out the winner, the process "has holes."

>>>When the RINO Romney 'wins' Iowa he's declared the Republican Presidential Nominee. When Santorum 'wins' Iowa it's called a tie? WTH?

Bottom line... Romney's no better than McCain/Obama. MO
65 posted on 01/19/2012 6:12:52 AM PST by Whats-wrong-with-the-truth
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To: Sgt_Schultze
Who, then? According to a Gallup poll last Feb, the reddest red state was Mississippi. Barbour has been disappointing in a lot of ways. Not sure I'd rely on them. The same could be said for other places.

Even in closed primaries, there's potential for chicanery. In an election year like this one, where the incumbent is an unchallenged liberal, there's opportunity for a reverse Operation Chaos.

66 posted on 01/19/2012 6:13:58 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: Antoninus

I completely agree. This all just plays into Obama’s hands so neatly. Remember all the articles months ago about Obama being “toast,” and how he was ripe for defeat? Not seeing those now.

Rush theorizes the GOP is surrendering the Presidential race while pushing Mitt while holding out hope it can attract enough mushy-middle voters to eke out a majority in the Senate.

At this point, the heady days of optimism long past, I think even the House is in jeopardy. Romney doesn’t excite anyone except democrats who had previously thought THEY were taking on water.


67 posted on 01/19/2012 6:15:57 AM PST by ScottinVA (Liberal logic: 0bamacare mandate is acceptable... but voter IDs are unconstitutional.)
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To: Utmost Certainty
Of course that makes sense—if you're running a fair election with a well-documented paper trail. Obviously the RNC, etc. isn't interested in that.

And when democrat voter fraud swings the election to Obama in November, the RNC won't have a friggin' leg to stand on.

68 posted on 01/19/2012 6:18:15 AM PST by ScottinVA (Liberal logic: 0bamacare mandate is acceptable... but voter IDs are unconstitutional.)
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To: napscoordinator; Utmost Certainty
I know he has some votes that I would rather he not have voted for. However, you have to remember we had a Republican Congress and President. Had he said no to some of these votes, he would have been criticized on Free Republic by some for not being supportive of President Bush. I know for a fact that is true.

Sorry Chief he's a sell out....

69 posted on 01/19/2012 6:23:41 AM PST by Doofer (Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: edpc

The whole Caucus process smells of back room/smoke filled room politics. The Party should ban caucuses in favor of primary elections restricted to people that are registered voters with that party at least 90 days before the election.


70 posted on 01/19/2012 6:30:37 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: magritte
Iowa was essentially a 3-way tie from the get-go.

That is true, but Romney's claim to a "historical" win in both Iowa and NH is now bogus.

So much for Iowa's credibility.

71 posted on 01/19/2012 6:36:54 AM PST by World'sGoneInsane (We Can Take OUR Country Back--Perry 2012)
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To: World'sGoneInsane

So much for Iowa’s credibility.


You got that right. Time for a radical primary change, don’t ya think?


72 posted on 01/19/2012 6:54:05 AM PST by magritte
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To: edpc
The Des Moines Register has a fair amount of detail and is mostly practicing journalism here.

They link to a spreadsheet with the precinct breakdown for the 1766 precincts they were able to certify. That spreadsheet verified my surmise that whatever the votes were in the other 8 non-certified precincts, they are not being counted. They're not even lines on the spreadsheet. Hopefully someone will perform further journalism and discover what went wrong. As of this posting the Iowa GOP site hasn't been updated today; the Register is the only site with data posted.

I don't have time for a full comparison now, but a glance at the "certified" spread sheet in comparison to the one posted after "Mitt won" revealed a couple interesting points.

First, they broke down the voting by others in more detail. Sarah Palin only received 23 votes statewide. Cain received 45. Some much for their hopes of resurrection.

Second, although they aren't providing totals from the 8 "non-certified" precincts now, their unofficial results were provided earlier this month and if unchanged would provide Santorum with an additional 35 vote margin:

46 Romney
81 Santorum
64 Paul
30 Gingrich
31 Perry
15 Bachman
2 Huntsman
269 Total

So although they are now saying Santorum 'won' in the 99.5% complete 'final' tally, had it been 100% the best available data suggests he really won by about 69 votes. The size and trend of those 8 unofficially counted precincts makes it fairly likely that Santorum really did win Iowa.

So we're off to an interesting day. Santorum flips Mitt in Iowa. Perry reported to be dropping out. Newt gets dropped on by ex #2 tonight and what will likely be an interesting debate tonight. I'm off to work so will be offline awhile.

73 posted on 01/19/2012 7:18:27 AM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: edpc

With this kind of behavior, the Republican Party “leadership” willfully abandons all moral authority to complain about rampant Democrat ballot fraud. Yet they want so badly for their RINO to win, that they cannot see it. Effectively, they deserve what happened in Florida.


74 posted on 01/19/2012 7:30:16 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing popular indenture since 1832.)
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To: Doofer; Utmost Certainty

I won’t go that far. However, it is very clear that I need to get on the Newt train because Perry just endorsed him. I am seeing the writing on the wall. lol. Ok so I am thick....it just takes me longer to get with the program.


75 posted on 01/19/2012 9:25:08 AM PST by napscoordinator (Newt MUST win the nomination to get rid of Romney and Obama....Dear God let November 2012 go our way)
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To: napscoordinator

Welcome aboard, FRiend. :)


76 posted on 01/19/2012 9:30:35 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: All; edpc
And Santorum supporters were so sure he'd be declared the winner.

I'm shocked the party is going for "split decision." /s

77 posted on 01/19/2012 11:13:53 AM PST by newzjunkey (SC: a vote for Santorum or Paul is a vote for Romney's coronation)
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