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Former Gingrich Wife Says He Asked for ‘Open Marriage’
NYTimes ^ | January 19, 2012 | TRIP GABRIEL

Posted on 01/19/2012 7:51:31 AM PST by maggief

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Paraphrasing Marianne Gingrich’s account, Mr. Ross said, “He came to her and said I want to stay married to you and still have an affair with Callista.” Marianne said Mr. Gingrich asked her “share” him, Mr. Ross said. That was unacceptable to her and the marriage ended.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: adulterer; cad; cheater; larrysinclair; marianne; mariannegingrich; msmbastards; newt; newtgingrich; partisanmediashills; scoundrel
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Newt is a scumbag!

You said it best.

101 posted on 01/19/2012 8:53:03 AM PST by freespirited
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To: freespirited

But he’s OUR scumbag.


102 posted on 01/19/2012 8:53:34 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: maggief
I don't believe this.

Newt has changed dramatically. Here are some FR links about his conversion.

Newt Gingrich: What Kind of Catholic Is He? [Born Lutheran, Turned Baptist, Now Catholic]
Newt Gingrich: America’s Next Catholic President?
Clemson Palmetto Poll finds Gingrich (38%) momentum growing, most S.C. GOP voters still uncommitted
Gingrich Threatens GOP's Chance to Nab Independents

The Evangelical Case for Newt Gingrich
Gingrich Represents New Political Era for Catholics
Gingrich Represents New Political Era for Catholics [ecumenical}
Newt Gingrich on Catholicism and JPII
Why Newt Gingrich Converted to Catholicism
Exclusive: Newt Gingrich Opens Up on Catholic Conversion and Embracing 'Overt Christianity'
Newt Gingrich on his conversion to Catholicism
Gingrich Keeps Quiet on Catholic Conversion (received into Church over the past weekend)
Exclusive: Newt Gingrich conversion details; plans release of JP2 documentary
Gingrich to Become Catholic During Easter Season
The Newt Evangelization: Gingrich to become Catholic

103 posted on 01/19/2012 8:55:13 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: maggief
“He asked me to marry him way too early. And he wasn’t divorced yet. I should have known there was a problem.” “Within weeks.”

That is an awesome post, Maggief.

She said that it wasn't a compliment to her. Well, what is it years later when it's over and done with and the hens have come home to roost.

I don't want to imply anything other than it's a bit hypocritical to be complaining about something happening to you that you did to someone else.

Marianne is hardly the person to be carrying this forward. I'm assuming she's being paid.

104 posted on 01/19/2012 8:56:46 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: conservativesister

We’ll see it if she did - she’ll be getting a facelift.


105 posted on 01/19/2012 8:56:56 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Strategerist

I agree with you. As important as the state is, the entire electorate is not comprised of South Carolina-minded voters. How will Gingrich play in Florida? Would Santorum have a better shot at PA and OH? How will Newt look against the Chicago thug commercials showing the perfect obama family against the serial adulterer? There really needs to be some kind of strategy going forward besides throwing out red meat at a debate. Perception is important.


106 posted on 01/19/2012 8:57:00 AM PST by jersey117 (Perry 2012)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

We’re making a huge mistake if we conservatives give this man our standard to carry into the election. Huge mistake. I’m not a big Santorum fan but he’s light years preferable to Newt in my opinion.


107 posted on 01/19/2012 8:57:11 AM PST by pgkdan ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: rwfromkansas

Maybe it will appeal to the Ron Paul voters?


108 posted on 01/19/2012 8:57:11 AM PST by magritte
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To: presently no screen name

America, the beautiful is his mistress! HE LOVES HER!

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True. And that is the reason he cheated on his wives.

Love of Country.

https://www.google.com/search?q=love+of+country+site%3Afreerepublic.com&hl=en&biw=1024&bih=601&num=10&lr=&ft=i&cr=&safe=images#pq=gingrichlove+of+country&hl=en&sugexp=pfwl&tok=PoftdcsRKBEblLELGD4s1g&cp=9&gs_id=7j&xhr=t&q=gingrich+LOVE+OF+COUNTRY&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&lr=&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=gingrich+LOVE+OF+COUNTRY&aq=0&aqi=g1g-m1&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=31452cfe9ab8fc0f&biw=1024&bih=601


109 posted on 01/19/2012 8:57:20 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: maggief

Marriage is between ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN, and I don’t think a REAL conservative can compromise on that!


110 posted on 01/19/2012 8:57:53 AM PST by Hilda
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To: Hilda

Now that just about sums it up. Well said!


111 posted on 01/19/2012 8:59:02 AM PST by jersey117 (Perry 2012)
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To: mewzilla
"Here's a thought: With millions of Americans who fit the constitutional criteria, can we find a few to run who AREN'T socialists and/or degenerates?"

Well, I'm not sure I would necessarily count Newt as a degenerate based on the word of an ex-wife (Hell hath no fury ...)

But I really, REALLY, wish we could find a candidate who would be eligible for a Top Secret security clearance. The President, naturally, has access to many (but probably, thank god, not all) of this nation's most closely guarded secrets. Information which, if divulged, could drastically harm our national security. And naturally, the President is granted a clearance on the basis of his election, without the need to undergo a security investigation. It would be nice to have someone of sufficient character that they could receive a clerance based on their past. Clinton and Obama certainly could not have received clearances other than by election - and I think we have paid the price with China (under Clinton) and the Muslim World (under Obama.) And frankly, I doubt with his history that Newt could receive one.

I've said to my wife that the eventual Republican nominee has not yet entered the race, and I believe that more than ever. It will be a brokered convention.

112 posted on 01/19/2012 9:01:02 AM PST by In Maryland ("Truth? We don't need no stinkin' truth!" - Official Motto of the Main Stream Media)
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To: xzins

http://www.esquire.com/features/newt-gingrich-0910#ixzz1jv7FzDx3

She sounds proud, defiant, maybe a little wistful. You might be inclined to think of what she says as the lament of an abandoned wife, but that would be a mistake. There is shockingly little bitterness in her, and she often speaks with great kindness of her former husband. She still believes in his politics. She supports the Tea Parties. She still uses the name Marianne Gingrich instead of going back to Ginther, her maiden name.

But there was something strange and needy about him. “He was impressed easily by position, status, money,” she says. “He grew up poor and always wanted to be somebody, to make a difference, to prove himself, you know. He has to be historic to justify his life.”

She says she should have seen the red flags. “He asked me to marry him way too early. And he wasn’t divorced yet. I should have known there was a problem.”

Within weeks or months?

“Within weeks.”

That’s flattering.

She looks skeptical. “It’s not so much a compliment to me. It tells you a little bit about him.”

And he did the same thing to her eighteen years later, with Callista Bisek, the young congressional aide who became his third wife. “I know. I asked him. He’d already asked her to marry him before he asked me for a divorce. Before he even asked.”

He told you that?

“Yeah, he wanted to — “

But she stops. “Hey, turn off the tape recorder for a second. This is going to go places ...”

(August 10, 2010)


113 posted on 01/19/2012 9:01:46 AM PST by maggief
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To: xzins; Trailerpark Badass; pgkdan; maggief

Methinks the “lady” doest protest too much.

Swine shouldn’t complain about filth while they are wallowing in it.

She knew what Newt was and jumped into mud hole with him with both feet. And now she’s slinging dirtballs(for $$$ or vengeance)

Now tell me why we shall listen to her????


114 posted on 01/19/2012 9:03:19 AM PST by RedMonqey (A politician's integrity is usually only as strong as his poll numbers.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

“Objective of our mission is to defeat Obama. We therefore must elect a true conservative with bold leadership to give our country back to the people. There is no viable path for me. I am therefore suspending my campaign and endorsing Newt Gingrich. He is not perfect, but who among us is? The fact is..there is forgiveness for those who seek God. I am making a strategic retreat. I head home with the love of my life by my side. A woman who makes every day good and she has been an incredible patriot throughout this process.”

- Rick Perry


115 posted on 01/19/2012 9:04:54 AM PST by Grunthor (I am a conservative, neither half of the one party represents my views.)
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To: pgkdan
Wishful thinking. This is the woman he was cheating on his first wife with. The man's not faithful. Period. He can't be trusted. Not by his wives, his party or conservatives. He's jumped on every big state solution to every so called problem there is. What a fuster cluck this election is.

Well said. The same "conservatives" here who get on their moral high-horse whenever most politicians get caught with feet of clay will excuse Gingrich. Yet Gingrich is the worst candidate we have running precisely for the reasons you say. Politically, although he's generally conservative, he's all over the place on many issues. There's a real lack of character in this man, as much as I mostly agree with his politics.

Aside from that, I can't see how Gingrich wins the election if he gets the nomination. Not only has he made a lot of enemies in his own party, but moderates and independents will turn away from him in droves. There's a snooty lecturing quality to the way Gingrich speaks that, after awhile, is very grating. Obama is likely to win in a landslide. From my perspective, once again the Right is throwing an election.

116 posted on 01/19/2012 9:05:17 AM PST by Wolfstar (“The only man who never makes mistakes is the man who never does anything.” Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: Strategerist
Fathers with daughters are going to look at this very differently than those without daughters.

Newts got a big problem.

Its a shame that Obamas college boys are keeping silent and that Larry Sinclair has been ignored.

117 posted on 01/19/2012 9:06:59 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: maggief; P-Marlowe
I understand they were separated a number of years at the end. Is that correct?

That is an amazing quote you have there. You've got to wonder if she isn't a bit off her rocker.

118 posted on 01/19/2012 9:06:59 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: jersey117

Of course, this is about ten times worse than Cain, because it’s an ex-wife, among other things.

And there are no mitigation strategies at all for Newt (or anyone speaking on behalf of Newt.)

He can’t ignore it. He can’t dismiss it. He can’t say she’s lying. He can’t say her memory is faulty. He can’t say the DNC is paying her. He can’t say Karl Rove is paying her. He can’t say she’s trying to get a book deal. All of those steps would actually make it worse.


119 posted on 01/19/2012 9:07:19 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Hilda
And that's what I don't get, especially on this forum: Since when do conservatives pick and chose what marriage is, and which words have meaning and which words mean nothing? I've been married for nearly 21 years, in a row, to the same ONE guy. Has it always been easy? No. But knowing what's right and what's wrong, that has always been easy. What does that tell me about Newt? That he can't figure out right from wrong, or he doesn't have what it takes to do what's right? I don't need to know the story behind his failed marriages. It's enough for me to know he's a serial philanderer.

I'm still waiting for Frankencandidate to come along. Pardon the language but this primary pool sucks.

120 posted on 01/19/2012 9:07:52 AM PST by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: notaliberal
Can you say “Parodical Son”

Parodical?

121 posted on 01/19/2012 9:08:01 AM PST by Right Brother
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To: Boardwalk

Nope. It was a pillar of their religion until they couldn’t have Utah be a state without believing it any longer.


122 posted on 01/19/2012 9:08:09 AM PST by Grunthor (I am a conservative, neither half of the one party represents my views.)
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To: JFC
Actually, if true, Newt sounds .......Newt is not going to play well with women in America

LOL!! See how easy it is to convince people. They start out w/if and in a few words they are convinced! Propaganda works - even on you.
123 posted on 01/19/2012 9:08:09 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: CainConservative
Marynne cashed her Salt Lake City check, I see.

I disagree.

This is right out of the Axelrod Play Book.

Blair Hull, Jack Ryan, John McCain, Herman Cain, and those are just the ones that immediately come to mind.

124 posted on 01/19/2012 9:08:11 AM PST by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Strategerist

Also apologizing for it isn’t going to work, either.


125 posted on 01/19/2012 9:08:11 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Grunthor

Perry is a good guy! I hope we see more of him in DC and not just in Texas!

Go Newt Go!


126 posted on 01/19/2012 9:09:27 AM PST by Ditter
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To: presently no screen name
They start out w/if and in a few words they are convinced! Propaganda works - even on you.

You're missing the point. It has nothing to do with propaganda working on an FR poster; it has everything to do with propaganda working for the tens of millions of people that have never even heard of FR.

127 posted on 01/19/2012 9:10:06 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: PetroniusMaximus; ImJustAnotherOkie

So then you will have an open marriage with Mitt and the socialists. Enjoy your crumbs.


128 posted on 01/19/2012 9:10:14 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: maggief

this is old news...they are just trying to republicize it

they must sure be worried


129 posted on 01/19/2012 9:10:42 AM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: grellis

In my heart of hearts,I agree with you.


130 posted on 01/19/2012 9:11:05 AM PST by TShaunK
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

you just heard this...we knew this for years...ABC and the rest are just pimping it now

they fear him

cowboy up please


131 posted on 01/19/2012 9:12:40 AM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: PA-RIVER

“Fathers with daughters are going to look at this very differently than those without daughters.”

I am a father of two grown daughters and a teen stepdaughter.

I also have an ex-wife.


132 posted on 01/19/2012 9:13:31 AM PST by Grunthor (I am a conservative, neither half of the one party represents my views.)
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To: maggief



133 posted on 01/19/2012 9:13:43 AM PST by yup2394871293
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To: presently no screen name
They start out w/if and in a few words they are convinced! Propaganda works - even on you.

As a conservative woman married 40 years to a practicing Catholic man, I have to say I am totally turned off by Newt and his womanizing adventures. Don't need propaganda thrown at me to feel that way.

134 posted on 01/19/2012 9:13:52 AM PST by jersey117 (Perry 2012)
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To: maggief

And JFK was a sterling example,eh?????????????????????????????


135 posted on 01/19/2012 9:13:59 AM PST by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: Jane Long

Right, how many wives do you think would ask for that in writing or just happen to have a recorder going when it was asked?


136 posted on 01/19/2012 9:14:09 AM PST by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: maggief
She says she should have seen the red flags. “He asked me to marry him way too early. And he wasn’t divorced yet. I should have known there was a problem.”

This woman is set to bleat about how Mr. gingrich is a cad.

You know, the one she was having an affair with, while he was currently married to someone else.

Might be kind of easy for someone to think maybe she was the homewrecker?

Nah, would never cross anyone's mind.

It is all Mr. Gingrich's evil heart's fault. 'Sides, he would make a lousy prez, with his faults and all, says the upstanding media anchors.

137 posted on 01/19/2012 9:14:41 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Political Junkie Too

She would seem to be a little in the moral compass area too.


138 posted on 01/19/2012 9:15:30 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Political Junkie Too

She would seem to be a little light in the moral compass area too.


139 posted on 01/19/2012 9:15:49 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

This is a consequence of his infidelity.

Newt is the only guy who can make Obama the family values candidate.


140 posted on 01/19/2012 9:16:20 AM PST by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
And he's the married man whose family she helped wreck.

I'm always surprised when women who cheat with married men are surprised when it's done to them.

141 posted on 01/19/2012 9:16:46 AM PST by Proudcongal
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To: wardaddy

There’s a bit of a difference between a 1-1 TV interview with the woman in question compared to rumors, don’t you think?

You’re welcome to live in a political fantasy world. Don’t expect to further any of your political goals while you’re there, however.


142 posted on 01/19/2012 9:17:06 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: maggief

Interesting, but no surprise that the nyt and other msm will run with these “sexcapade” stories and juicy gossip about Newt (Republicans, et al), but nary a word about Larry Sinclair and his buddy.


143 posted on 01/19/2012 9:17:15 AM PST by babyfreep
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To: Ezekiel
The best thing the GOP could do is remove the halo and wing it towards the heads of the rat party. You know, like Oddjob did with his hat.

Off topic: Sean Connery was the best James Bond, ever. IMHO.

145 posted on 01/19/2012 9:17:34 AM PST by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: KansasGirl

Well we sure heard a lot about those guys, even after they were out of office. It’s not like anything they did was secret.


146 posted on 01/19/2012 9:19:11 AM PST by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: PA-RIVER; Strategerist

u two are off base...this is all old news and folks here who keep up know this

I have two daughters...my wife too supports Gingrich

all this blather from a bitter ex wife who was a cheater herself does squat except for folks here who never liked him anyhow

rekindled by a leftist media who ignored Clinton’s rapes and maybe Mitt Romney who himself comes from a long line of polygamists

does it get any stupider?

you really think they won’t attack Santorum either...and his wife’s flawed past and so forth

you don’t like Newt for ideological reasons...I can respect that

you don’t like Newt over what this harridan says for revenge and her own leftist views...then that’s a shame


147 posted on 01/19/2012 9:19:15 AM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Can you narrow that URL down just a bit?


148 posted on 01/19/2012 9:19:50 AM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: jersey117

And beyond the multiple “ick” factor with women, if it’s one thing the public can’t stand, it’s a moral hypocrite.

From the Washington Post:

“Presidential candidate Newt Gingrich in 1999 asked his second wife for an “open marriage” or a divorce at the same time he was giving speeches around the country on family and religious values, his former wife, Marianne, told The Washington Post on Thursday.

Marianne Gingrich said she first heard from the former speaker about the divorce request as she was waiting in the home of her mother on May 11, 1999, her mother’s 84th birthday. Over the phone, as she was having dinner with her mother, Newt Gingrich said, “I want a divorce.”

Shocked, Marianne Gingrich replied: “Is there anybody else?” she recalled. “He was quiet. Within two seconds, when he didn’t immediately answer, I knew.”

The next day, Newt Gingrich gave a speech titled “The Demise of American Culture” to the Republican Women Leaders Forum in Erie, Pa., extolling the virtues of the founding fathers and criticizing liberal politicians for supporting tax increases, saying they hurt families and children.

“When a liberal talks about values, will he or she actually like us to teach American history?” Newt Gingrich told the women’s group. “Will they actually like young people to learn that George Washington was an ethical man? A man of standards, a man who earned the right to be father of this country?””


149 posted on 01/19/2012 9:19:50 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: maggief

To most of America, this probably won’t look all that shocking. Clinton, Weiner, Tiger, etc etc etc.......

Good thing he didn’t flush a goldfish down the toilet....he’d be FINISHED!!!!!


150 posted on 01/19/2012 9:20:07 AM PST by my small voice (A biased media and an uneducated populace is the biggest threat to our nation.)
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