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powerline ^ | 1/20/2012 | john hinderaker

Posted on 01/21/2012 6:30:40 AM PST by milwguy

What is it about this primary season that causes Republicans to go around the bend? The current beneficiary of the “anyone but Romney” mania is Newt Gingrich, who may actually win the South Carolina primary tomorrow. I find that astonishing. Gingrich has been mostly out of the public view since he retired from Congress 13 years ago. The most surprising feature of this endlessly surprising political year is that, at age 68, Gingrich has made a comeback.

It is hard to make clear-cut statements about the mercurial and often contradictory Gingrich, but one thing we can say with absolute certainty: he will never be President of the United States. Put aside the fact that he lasted only four years as Speaker of the House before resigning in disgrace, leaving Congress with an approval rating around 15%. Forget that he was the father of the earmark. Never mind his notorious lack of self-control and his attacks on free enterprise. Those are all worthy topics for another day, but for the moment let’s just focus on the allegations by Newt’s second ex-wife that hit the press this week. Apart from all the other good reasons why Gingrich will never be President, Marianne Gingrich’s sensational allegations snuffed out any possible hope that Newt can beat Barack Obama in 2012.

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To: yldstrk

That is exactly what he said. You were not listening.


101 posted on 01/21/2012 7:27:50 AM PST by richardtavor
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To: milwguy

I agree with you. If anything, I was thinking FR would support Santorum, who is a good man and has good ideas, but, imho, is not quite ready for this type of position.

Oh, and personally, I like Romney. Of the four candidates left, I believe Romney has the best shot at beating Obama - by far.


102 posted on 01/21/2012 7:29:05 AM PST by khnyny (Our government has become Hal in "2001 A Space Odyssey")
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To: stylin19a

I saw that, too. Sorry, but I’d take a 70 year old leader over a 40 year old leader, if all other things (like ideology, etc) are equal anyday. The 70 year old has had 2x as much time to deal with issues, and likely 10x the wisdom. Now, that being said, age doesn’t bring wisdom. But age generally brings experience, which in turn brings wisdom if that’s what you seek after. That having been said, I’ll take a 10 year old who loves wisdom over an 80 year old who sticks their head in the sand. But in general, age is a plus, not a hinderance, IMHO.


103 posted on 01/21/2012 7:29:41 AM PST by JDW11235 (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: yldstrk
The current crop of liars and double dealers who make up our professional politicians are the problem not Christian moms like me. My prayers do more for this country than any of these politicians with their lies, I can guarantee you that.

If that's how you feel, then LEAVE! You don't want a solution, you want to whine and complaing like a spoiled little brat.

The candidates we have are what we have. Nobody chooses them for us, nobody allows or disallows someone to run in the primary.

Either select one of the candidates and get on board or get the hell out of here.

Just as we are trying to rally around someone and charge the hill with courage and steel, you are running around saying "we can't win, its all fixed, our leaders suck."

Grow up!

104 posted on 01/21/2012 7:29:47 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: milwguy
Wow.

Well, we know who you're supporting between Willard the Taxachusetts Lib

AND

Speaker Gingrich who led Republicans to: * Voting on each of the Contract with America items * Four consecutive balanced budgets * Over $400 billion of debt paid off * Major welfare reform accomplished * 11 million new jobs for America * Unemployment falling to under 4%.

105 posted on 01/21/2012 7:30:03 AM PST by CainConservative (Newt/Rubio 2012 with Cain, Huck, Petraeus, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: yldstrk

Interesting “Christin mom” YET you refuse to accept that Gingrich is a repentant man and continue to judge him.
Gingrich says he is a repentant man, as a Christian you should believe him.
You have know idea what has happened in private between all parties, all you can do is view his life since he became a repentant man - that you can judge.


106 posted on 01/21/2012 7:30:20 AM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: milwguy

Nice opus.


107 posted on 01/21/2012 7:30:43 AM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: altura
Romneybots have been refuted continuously since 2006, they should have already learned the facts.

We both supported the same candidate until he dropped out and endorsed Newt. I defended him with facts based on his record.

Nobody can honestly defend Mutt Romney on his record and claim to be anything but a flaming liberal.

108 posted on 01/21/2012 7:33:40 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: yldstrk

A brilliant man once said “You go to war with the army you have, not the one you want.”

Well, we are going to war and we don’t need people like you whining and demoralizing us with defeatism, negativity and useless posts

As JimRob said when he endorsed Gingrich: WE ARE THE RESISTANCE!


109 posted on 01/21/2012 7:33:51 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: randita

“But I also struggled to comprehend the Palin devotion.”

I can only cite my own personal reasons for [still wanting] Sarah Palin and they are these:

#1 There was no doubting Sarah’s conservatism. Period. End of story.

#2 Outsider status. It was (and still is) obvious that Sarah was not part of/beholden to any “machine”/party. Sarah Palin is an Independent individual who happened to be running as a Republican and not a Republican who was trying to pass herself off as somewhat independent (in her thinking).

#3 Constitutional orientation. Whenever she speaks, she speaks of founding principles. From what I see of our present and come to understand about our past, I believe the founders had it right and we (contemporary America) have it wrong. Unless we get back to these original intents when it comes to the approach to governance, we are doomed. The candidate who, in any way veers from this message must be scrutinized to the Nth degreee as their held beliefs might well be a swapping out of one kind of tyranny in exchange for another.

I have listened again and again to the arguments about “experience” when it comes to politics and I have come to believe that political experience is as much a hinderance as it is a help. The rap on Sarah was her inexperience. I considered this an asset. She was not “connected”, not bought and paid for.

After Dole...Bush...McCain...and, now, possibly Romney...a conservative has got to ask...HAS GOT TO ASK...what is going on here? Where are these folks coming from? How are these folks rising to such positions of prominence (or, how is it that at critical moments (going up against a Clinton 2nd term/going up against an Obama with economic disaster looming in our near future) how is it that moderates (who happen to be well-well-well connected to all the apparatus of power (who have been pulling the switches for some time, in fact)...how is it these are the candidates foisted on us? Has the Moderate position proven itself to be such a success? For example, when it comes to social spending, has Moderation helped us to rein in spending or the scope and reach of government (when the talk about cuts, they are talking about a decrease on the increase!)?

In my view, party politics has become as much an enemy to America as any “-ism” out there. So, along comes Sarah Palin...and...well...you know...


110 posted on 01/21/2012 7:34:43 AM PST by MarDav
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To: Patton@Bastogne

If He keeps just half of your 15 points, it will
turn this country around.

One thing about the “G”man, when he came up with the
contract with America, he did everything he could
to make it come true. That’s good enough for me.

At least with him, when the media attacks, he will
counter and call them on it.

Romney? Too much like Obama lite, and he’s mormon
which to me is too close to being Raelian, a hundred
year old cult that’s all. No thanks.


111 posted on 01/21/2012 7:38:32 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: bolobaby

Governor Bob McDonnell of Virginia has endorsed Romney.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jan/20/mcdonnell-endorses-romney-will-head-sc-campaign/


112 posted on 01/21/2012 7:40:33 AM PST by khnyny (Our government has become Hal in "2001 A Space Odyssey")
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To: yldstrk

No, for reasons already stated.


113 posted on 01/21/2012 7:41:10 AM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: randita
Marianne Gingrich is not going away. She has a huge axe to grind and she’s going to just keep grinding it to the delight of the DBM. A constant sideshow of this type will overshadow Newt’s message.

Marianne Gingrich is through. She has fired her only shot, she's a one-trick pony. The wronged woman - HA! She was messing around with Newt while he was still married to his first wife. She had just ended an affair with a married father of three children.

She has been proven to be bitter, angry, vindictive, and perhaps a little unhinged. She's no better than the bimbos who torpedoed Herman Cain.Her allegations against Newt are just that, allegations. Why are her assertions being accepted as gospel by the lamestream media? Because it fits their agenda - to destroy Newt, and get Romney the nomination.

114 posted on 01/21/2012 7:42:54 AM PST by Inspectorette
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To: Tribune7

Newt sold out to the global warming ethanol whores.

Newt sold out to the Freddie Mac mortgage fraud whores.

Newt stands 0 chance of ever getting elected.

I am NOT a ROMNEY supporter, I am just pointing out the utter hyprocrisy of the ‘moralists’ FReepers who gave Cain a pass on his transgressions and now are doing the same with Newt.

I support none of the above right now and hope nobody drops out. Newt can’t win, Romney can’t win the nomination, Santorum lost his own state by 18 pts in his last election, and Paul is unelectable due to his foreign policy views.

Newt is not a conservative, and if you read the article it points out many cases where he strayed from conservative positions.


115 posted on 01/21/2012 7:43:30 AM PST by milwguy
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To: milwguy
Anyone who is to beat obama will need to beat him on the issues. That is the economy, smaller gov't, less regulation, lower taxes, real energy program with drill baby drill.

These ARE Newt's issues! And I have also been a Freeper for well over a decade. I was there in the 90's, I remember what Newt did and what happened. I made a reasoned, rational decision to back Newt Gingrich. You disagree, fine. I'm sorry that you made yourself into kitty fodder over it.

116 posted on 01/21/2012 7:43:48 AM PST by Marie Antoinette (Proud Clinton-hater since 1998.)
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To: bolobaby; milwguy
Granted it’s probably one of the most important primaries I’ve ever witnessed, but people are SUPPOSED to disagree about who will best carry the conservative torch.

True, but these threads/comments are nothing but whiny nonsense. "No, not Newt, he sucks, he's been divorced, I don't like him, nooooo, he's got baggage."

OK, then, instead of your bitching and moaning, who's your candidate and why is he better? I'm completely uninterested in "this guy sucks." What I am interested in is "this guy is better because...."

I know I'll be waiting a while for that, though. The former just takes a keyboard and some time, while the latter takes actual thought.

117 posted on 01/21/2012 7:43:48 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: khnyny

Yep, I’d think Santorum should be talking around these opponents by addressing them briefly, and then differentiating himself from the Democrat in a more direct, dramatic way, and it may be that he is being cheated of his time at the debates, but he’ll have to play catch-up real fast because it’s kinda obvious the folks out here seem to want a more aggressive tone and aren’t getting one.


118 posted on 01/21/2012 7:43:58 AM PST by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: bolobaby

How perfectly strange on your part....thought control, book burning.........weird.
Romney and BHO BOTH are pro-homosexual agenda
Romney and BHO BOTH are pro-abortion
Romney and BHO BOTH are anti-2nd amendment
Romney and BHO BOTH are pro-government mandated health care
and that is just a start.
I will not support Romney because he is a liberal - period.
If you feel that is equivalent to book burning and though control - to damn bad.


119 posted on 01/21/2012 7:44:56 AM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: Mr Rogers

“but Romney would go to DC and work with people there to make government better.”

Yeah, better for Romney and his ilk.

FR right now is like Kansas in 1860. There’s a bloody purge coming no matter which candidate locks up the R nomination.


120 posted on 01/21/2012 7:45:17 AM PST by Rebelbase
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