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Posted on 01/21/2012 6:30:40 AM PST by milwguy
What is it about this primary season that causes Republicans to go around the bend? The current beneficiary of the anyone but Romney mania is Newt Gingrich, who may actually win the South Carolina primary tomorrow. I find that astonishing. Gingrich has been mostly out of the public view since he retired from Congress 13 years ago. The most surprising feature of this endlessly surprising political year is that, at age 68, Gingrich has made a comeback.
It is hard to make clear-cut statements about the mercurial and often contradictory Gingrich, but one thing we can say with absolute certainty: he will never be President of the United States. Put aside the fact that he lasted only four years as Speaker of the House before resigning in disgrace, leaving Congress with an approval rating around 15%. Forget that he was the father of the earmark. Never mind his notorious lack of self-control and his attacks on free enterprise. Those are all worthy topics for another day, but for the moment lets just focus on the allegations by Newts second ex-wife that hit the press this week. Apart from all the other good reasons why Gingrich will never be President, Marianne Gingrichs sensational allegations snuffed out any possible hope that Newt can beat Barack Obama in 2012.
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Nicely stated Frank... and I agree about the attacks and tactics.. There was a candidate, that under normal circumstances I may have supported... except for his cheerleaders drove me to despise him more than the other candidates (with exception to RuPaul and Mittens)..
yeah I have this line before “we’re not electing a Pope, soundbite.
The guy has behaved like a lying, sneaking moneygrubbing cheat and that has to be repudiated, which he has done a terrible job on.
This same poster (milwguy) just made this comment, and Santorum has the bible thumpers behind him, here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2835334/posts (post #54).
You must be a glutton for punishment.
Seems like a pretty miserable field of candidates who are good at dividing just when we need someone to unite the country against Obama.
Well, somewhere there was a comparison of economic plans, and for that reason, I lean towards Newt, I did vote Romney 2008 for same reason of best economic plan and I’m surprised he hasn’t improved on it.
hes got 3 things going;
1. best economic plan
2. details the rotten media bias for Democrats in real time
3. calls the Saul Lewinsky radicalism what it is
Newts Closing Statement from Thursday’s Debate
Except for the whole furthering $50.00 infanticide thing...
yeah Romney is awful too. Why can’t the opposing party come up with a real candidate? I’ll tell you why. It’s all a shell game. Just kabuki theater designed to make us think we have a choice.
I’m struggling to understand it as well. But I also struggled to comprehend the Palin devotion.
All I can figure out is conservatives are desperately hungry for someone who can both 1) articulate conservative values in a clear and unapologetic fashion and 2) take names and kick butt-hard.
Marianne Gingrich is not going away. She has a huge axe to grind and she’s going to just keep grinding it to the delight of the DBM. A constant sideshow of this type will overshadow Newt’s message. It will be just like Cain only we’d be stuck with Gingrich as a nominee with no way out.
Newt’s chastising the press is going to get old and start to sound petty. “Never pick a fight with anyone who buys ink by the barrel” is still relevant, IMO.
Obama will never agree to a debate format that would pit him one on one against Gingrich. This advantage will be effectively muted.
That's a very interesting way of looking at it. That certainly was the case with Bush I, Dole, Bush II, and McCain.
Never? Are you a prophet?
Only he hasn’t admitted his sins or begged forgiveness. Not from the public anyway we don’t know what happened at confession.
He needs to beg forgiveness of the the people he wants to have vote for him and he also needs to declare that he has learned how not to screw people to benefit his fat selfish self
Newt is the bottom of the barrel in choices. A fraction wanted no one but Palin and waiting on her; a lot of good candidates that were her political equal were brutally bashed on this forum.
With all that said.Romney is not a good wholesome Mormon man as you claim.He is the worst snake oil salesman of them all.His last debate performance was so scripted,so desperate as he stuttered out his memorized from idiot Rove; words.
The tea party is ticked off.There can be no more Obama or we won’t have an America.Gingrich or Santorum are the only hope. I think Perry,Bachmann would have been superb as POTUS.The irony is I would venture a guess that Palin was waiting on Perry to be VP and we could have had this nation back; but the same people on this forum that screamed in numerous threads over and over that Palin would NOT take a VP or cabinet position-ONLY POTUS are the same ones promoting Gingrich now as the last hope and suddenly are proclaiming joy Palin could be in The Gingrich cabinet.
There was a schism but the Palin games did not help at all.
Newt is the only one who has espoused and fought for conservative values while serving in office.
Newt is the only one who has made actual cuts to government (welfare reform) and balanced the budget.
Newt asked for forgiveness and has conducted himself in an honorable manner. A Christian believes in redemption --- what faith are you that you do not?
The vitriol spewed towards a Mormon like Romney who from all accounts has led a moral life...
Yet when he was governor, he supported and signed multiple pieces of legislation that directly conflicted with his Christian values......Gingrich never did that.
"How do you solve a problem like a Mittwit?
You ZOT him!"
Each man is responsible for their own forgiveness. So why are you on the soul patrol?
I just don’t change my principles with the direction of the wind
I’m in the “anyone but Romney” camp, but - even so - I don’t think supporting Romney should be the kiss-of-ZOT.
Plenty of people who are reasonable laudable from a conservative standpoint have endorsed Romney. I’m not going to throw these babies completely out with the bathwater:
Some of these people have their flaws, nut they are all enemies of Obama. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
So go ahead on your book-burning, thought control spree. I’m not a “big tent” guy, but I’m also not a “burn the witch” guy either.
Many people rally to Newt for the same reason they rallied to Sarah. They are both fighters.
2008 South Carolina Republican presidential debates, Mitt Romney, in response to Fred Thompson, said: I like [government] mandates. [Government] mandates work!
Look, paint, I am trying to say that until Newtie reaches the people he wants to have vote for him, they will not vote for him.. Perhaps Newtie and God are best buds, that is what I hope. But he definitely hasn’t made clear to the electorate that he is a changed man, in fact he appears as a nasty fat little cheater who takes whatever he wants for himself at the expense of those he has pledged to love (spouse) or serve (voters). We don’t need such in White House.
If Newtie has indeed changed and is now a knight in shining armor, he needs to make that abundantly clear.
If Newt applies for a job as my pastor, I’ll vote against him.
I don’t want a righteous Jimmy Carter. I want someone with some boldness who understands that we’re heading in the wrong direction. I will never trust Newt to be a conservative, but Romney would go to DC and work with people there to make government better.
There is little danger that Newt will think Congress will ever love him...
Here’s the comparison of economic plans, 2nd post down;
Gingrich has apologized, how many times do you want him to say it. Does he need to personally send you an email.
Gingrich is a repentant man. I beleive him.
Obviously Gingrich is not perfect and he has messed up big time, his life has changed.
If you want to support Romney just say so.
I've done my time in rinoland and in 2012 I'm not knowingly voting for yet another GOP establishment rino. McCain was the last rino I voted for and how did that turn out? We still got obama!
This kind of stuff has been occurring in the last few days.
You’re making odd assertions here.
You say Newt came out of nowhere.
Cain is old news but when he ran he was the ultimate in ‘came out of nowhere’ and he got huge support.
Santorum didn’t come out of nowhere but his political career had been nonexistent since his ignominious defeat for senate. He’d been wandering in the political wilderness.
Romney had a term as governor, ran for president when McCain was nominated and is best known for Romney-care.
We won’t even discuss Ron Paul, but he, at least, didn’t come out of nowhere.
Newt led the country to the first majority in the House since dinosaurs roamed the earth. We are still reaping benefits from the good things he did during that period.
The only entrants who were currently serving in politics were Michele Bachmann, Ron Paul and Rick Perry.
Perry was the perfect candidate but various factors - none of them particularly meaningful - conspired against him.
He’s gone now and we have three valid candidates remaining.
We’ve none Newt’s negatives all along and most of us decided his positives outweighed them.
Romney needs to drop out. He is a regional candidate who only has appeal to coastal elites and North Eastern Rinos.
If I wanted support Romney, I would say so, I don’t wnat to support the author of Obamacare or a Mormon.
If Newtie had changed, he wouldn’t have come across so indignant. A little humility is called for. He also wouldn’t have said poor Mariane is a liar.
It looks and sounds like he hasn’t learned. It looks and sounds like he wants a pass. Do you have a link to an article where the dude actually apologizes? If so please please post it.
Haven’t been IBTZ lately. Feels good.
I don’t think people should be zotted for expressing an honest opinion.
Maybe for flooding the site with continuous, stupid posts, but not for one or two posts we don’t agree with.
This kind of post is an opportunity to refute the posters arguments and cite positives of our own.
I think he will, counting on platitudes and big words and the media relishing him for what a great thinker he is
People like you who have given up should STFU and stop posting! YOU are the problem!
I quit going to Powerline when Hinderaker endorsed Mitt, more specifically because of his reasons.
Something just doesn’t feel right about the Romney “electability” meme. Hinderaker, and others in the Republican establishment, are ascribing far greater power to the media than they now deserve.
We have a history to observe in the fact that the media shilled for each and every Democrat that was defeated in the 2010 elections. We elected scores of Republicans to local, state and congressional offices, many of whom had what the media considered to be “baggage”, both personal and professional. We elected an evangelical as Governor of Virginia. We elected divorced candidates. We elected pro-life, pro-gun conservatives in bastions of liberalism, across this country. The media did everything they could to keep these conservatives from being elected.
Sure, Newt has baggage. Does anyone think the media won’t attempt to destroy Romney if he were to gain the nomination?
We’re tired of the media setting the agenda. We want someone who questions the premises of their silly debate questions. We want a fighter. We want a SHERIFF.
I agree with Rush, who says that conservatism can win without attempting to “go toward the middle” or water-down our beliefs to capture the vaunted independents.
The country is in an angry, fearful mood. Newt is a gunslinger that the media has painted as mean. Heck, we want mean. We need mean. We want a sheriff with guns he’s willing to fire at those who threaten us. We’re angry. Newt’s the one who said Barney Frank and Chris Dodd should go to jail. We’re afraid, and we don’t think Romney will protect us.
Newt not only can win, Newt will win.
If Hindraker says never, it means Newt can win!
There are things about the G man that I don’t like
but if Obama can be president, then a man like Newt
can shine in the office.
Let’s see what SC does.
I think that thought is the driving force behind each and every candidate that has-even for a moment-been on the top of the pile.
Voters are tired of the house, the senate, the prez, heck, even the local pols, that take, take, take, take, and Tell us what we should eat, drink, think, and live.
Sarah had a short time up there because she was feisty and ready to rumble.
Cain got his shot because HE appeared to be ready to rumble.
I think Newt sees how starved we are for a fighter, someone who will take it to them, rather than quietly acquiesce to a butt reaming by the media and their lackeys in the govt.
I am the problem?
You are freakin nuts.
The current crop of liars and double dealers who make up our professional politicians are the problem not Christian moms like me. My prayers do more for this country than any of these politicians with their lies, I can guarantee you that.
I can agree somewhat, but I think he’s worlds better than obama even if he cheats with a different woman daily and twice on sundays. sorta/sarc
If Newt applies for a job as my pastor, Ill vote him.
I dont want a righteous Jimmy Carter. I want someone with some boldness who understands that were heading in the wrong direction. I will never trust Newt to be a conservative, but Romney would go to DC and work with people there to make government better.
Congratulations, It's only January and you have already got "Dumbest Post of the Year" all sewn up.
Yea,so unless he apologies the way you want, it didn’t happen - got it.
Then you must be an alterPaul bot.
As I said, if you have a link to an article where he actually apologized, please please post it
Most would say Moses, David, Solomon and Abraham had serious moral flaws but God used them anyway. Same can be said for Reagan, Churchill and Franklin. Perhaps you should let God decide who he uses rather than yourself? How’s that log in your eye doing?
Pray for America