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Joyce Kaufman: 'Republican Party has to be punished and brought to its knees'
BizPacReview.com ^ | January 21, 2012 | Michele Kirk

Posted on 01/21/2012 6:36:57 AM PST by T.O.K.

Anyone who has listened to radio talk show host Joyce Kaufman, 850 WFTL, knows that she is not shy about speaking her mind.

She is a Tea Party favorite who helped propel Rep. Allen West to his position, but some of her fans are shocked at a recent proclamation that she will vote for Barack Obama if Mitt Romney becomes the Republican nominee.

Kaufman is unwavering in her position and reiterated it on the record with BPR. (Audio file)

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KEYWORDS: allenwest; joycekaufman; obama; teaparty
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How exactly do you go about "punishing" a party and bringing it to its knees without eliminating them? Someone is standing over them while they are brought to their knees, so who will that be? Um, the Democrats, maybe? sounds like a great plan to me . . .
1 posted on 01/21/2012 6:37:05 AM PST by T.O.K.
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To: T.O.K.

Tell me we are not at WAR.


2 posted on 01/21/2012 6:40:45 AM PST by yobid (Si vis pacem, para bellum, If you wish for peace, prepare for war)
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To: T.O.K.

This is a bad idea and worse than staying home. A vote for a democrat is a vote for destruction and though Romney is a blue dog democrat and Paul an anti semite and leftist leaning fool, to vote for the evil is to be part of the evil.


3 posted on 01/21/2012 6:41:10 AM PST by kindred (wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ ...)
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To: T.O.K.

The mentality that Joyce shows which would allow Obama’s re-election is beyond disturbing and wrong-thinking particularly from an alleged Tea Partier.


4 posted on 01/21/2012 6:43:43 AM PST by izzatzo (All in for Newt.)
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To: T.O.K.

What a dumb-ass.

Blaming the GOP when you don’t get your way is childish.

WE are the GOP! WE vote in the primaries! WE control who is our nominee!

South Carolina will prove what happens when conservatives unite.


5 posted on 01/21/2012 6:43:48 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: T.O.K.

I refuse to vote for Zero even in protest. That being said there is no way I will vote the socialist light Romney. I will vote 3rd party.


6 posted on 01/21/2012 6:44:27 AM PST by vmivol00
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To: T.O.K.

she sounds like a complete kook


7 posted on 01/21/2012 6:45:17 AM PST by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: T.O.K.

Joyce, at the end of the day has one vote. Never heard of Her. I am voting to send zer0 home. I have my guy as do most, but if I don’t get my way I will not vote to end the republic.

She sounds as crazy as some leftest do


8 posted on 01/21/2012 6:46:28 AM PST by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: T.O.K.
I agree. While I could never pull a lever or color in a space for Obama, I would vote 3rd party or write in Palin or stay home.

No more RINOs!!!! Get it Republicans? NO MORE RINOs. I'm DONE!

Registered Republican.

9 posted on 01/21/2012 6:48:38 AM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: T.O.K.

I can guarantee that if her ratings go down she will be back on the wagon soon enough. Stupidity like this needs to be punished. If Odummy wins re-election we will know who to blame, starting with this moron.


10 posted on 01/21/2012 6:50:31 AM PST by mardi59
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To: T.O.K.

I can appreciate her sentiment. If Mitt’s the nominee I’ll stay home.


11 posted on 01/21/2012 6:50:45 AM PST by circlecity
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To: vmivol00
I will vote 3rd party.

Same as voting for Obama. fine as long as you realize that and are willing to accept 4 more years of Obama to make a point.

What would that point be exactly again?

12 posted on 01/21/2012 6:52:51 AM PST by beebuster2000
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To: T.O.K.
she will vote for Barack Obama if Mitt Romney becomes the Republican nominee

Voting for Obama? If you don't like any of the candidates you can leave that part of the ballot blank, you know...

13 posted on 01/21/2012 6:54:13 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: reefdiver

“Never heard of Her”.

...now you have. She’s a talk show host. Job 1 is ratings.


14 posted on 01/21/2012 6:54:50 AM PST by albie
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To: T.O.K.

Don’t know who this woman is but why is she a T Party favorite? She sounds like a nut.


15 posted on 01/21/2012 6:54:50 AM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: T.O.K.

If Mitt Milquetoast wins we have 8, possible more, years of moderate Democratic Presidents (RINOs) in our future. With another for years of the Zero the Red we get another chance in 4 years to get a conservative.


16 posted on 01/21/2012 6:57:02 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
"WE are the GOP! WE vote in the primaries! WE control who is our nominee!"

Really? Romney "declared" winner in Iowa, then leaks of uncounted ballots, now officially declared "lost" ballots? The nomination process is filthy, just like the rest of it.

“If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures.” - Alexander Hamilton

17 posted on 01/21/2012 6:57:22 AM PST by j_tull ("I may make you feel, but I can't make you think.")
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To: T.O.K.

We WILL NOT vote for RINO proOBAMA Romney.

Not now. Not ever.


18 posted on 01/21/2012 6:57:58 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: svcw

Those of us who refused to vote for Willie Mitty in 2008 were accused of electing Obama..

It was all our fault etc...


19 posted on 01/21/2012 6:58:37 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: T.O.K.

What she is saying is clear. The only way Romney will get the nomination is if he is anointed to it by the Republican leadership, who have already expressed their support for just him.

If Romney is the nominee, the Republicans will lose again, just like they did when Dole and McCain were anointed by the same people. The only choice given to the rank and file was to “hold your nose and vote for them, because otherwise a Democrat will be elected.”

Well, guess what? It didn’t work, and the Democrat was elected, both times.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times and “Look at my thumb. Gee you’re dumb!”

If Romney is the nominee, we face a lose-lose scenario, with a LOT of downsides and few upsides.

The congress will probably be heavily Republican in either case. If Obama is reelected, at least they will stand unified to neuter not just what he wants to do, but has done. This means we will be rid of Obamacare.

However, the next president will likely nominate two Supreme Court justices. Obama will likely nominate two leftists, like he has before. But Romney will also likely nominate two leftists, as he did with his judicial appointments as governor. He even has the gall to say, when this is pointed out, that none of his appointments were to his state’s Supreme Court, so they really didn’t matter.

Does anyone believe he would nominate a conservative? Aw, heck no. He loathes conservatives and everything they stand for.

And that brings up my final point. If Romney is elected, he will not try in the slightest to overturn anything Obama did. Instead he will cement it in place.

We will have Obamacare, likely for decades.

We will have homosexuals in the increasingly starved military, LOTS of abortion, HUGE amounts of government spending and sneaky taxes hither and yon, and NO development of domestic energy. Our economy will go even further into the toilet, perhaps a full blown depression.

Yes, Romney could very well be the next Hoover, guaranteeing that Republicans have no political power for another 50 years. Just like last time.

And lord knows what Democrat monstrosity will replace him.

TL;DR: Bottom line is that while Obama is worthless, Romney is a disaster that could sink the Republican party and conservative movement for decades.

Is that ENOUGH motivation to NOT just “Hold your nose and vote for him?”


20 posted on 01/21/2012 6:59:33 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: T.O.K.

She votes in Illinois. Most of her listeners vote in Illinois. If Obama loses 40 states, Illinois will not be one of them. So ... Big deal.


21 posted on 01/21/2012 6:59:33 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (May Mitt Romney be the Paul Tsongas of 2012.)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Absolutely. If Romney is the nominee, then I’ll either write-in or skip the presidential ballot. However, I wouldn’t vote for any democrat, even at gunpoint...


22 posted on 01/21/2012 7:00:03 AM PST by awelliott
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To: T.O.K.

I will stay home if Romney gets the nomination. I refuse to reward Karl Rove and his buddies by voting for the puppet they are attempting to force onto us.

With that said I could not vote for Obama ever for any reason so if it is Romney I will stay home with a 12 pack and Lord of the Rings on bluray and try to make it through election day without going crazy.


23 posted on 01/21/2012 7:01:19 AM PST by Howdyneighbor
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To: T.O.K.

Remember Baraqqui is a lazy sack of < expletive deleted >. With a strong Republican Congress he will be content to sit on his a$$ or play golf for four years. Notice how in the first 2 years The Fag Hag and the Depressed One did all the heavy lifting, Zero the Red really did nothing. He is a lazy do nothing.


24 posted on 01/21/2012 7:01:19 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
"WE control who is our nominee!"

Uh huh...

Two Words:

John McCain...

Discuss...

25 posted on 01/21/2012 7:03:31 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: T.O.K.

but some of her fans are shocked at a recent proclamation that she will vote for Barack Obama if Mitt Romney becomes the Republican nominee.

Not very conservative fans obviously. She should have said refused to vote which would have been a better way of putting it. The Republican establishment has been warned. No Romney. This woman is a hero.


26 posted on 01/21/2012 7:08:07 AM PST by napscoordinator (Newt MUST win the nomination to get rid of Romney and Obama....Dear God let November 2012 go our way)
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To: T.O.K.
I am sadly realizing that the stupid party is not going to be part of the solution.

Congress reconvened this week and all eyes are on the freshmen Republicans. This was supposed to be the most conservative, small-government freshman group of Republicans in Congress since the huge class that was swept into office during the Contract with America days of 1995. But after one year settling in on Capitol Hill, the GOP freshman have been a disappointment, and more conservative leaders and tea party leaders are venting their frustration.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204616504577173392705244930.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLETopOpinion

27 posted on 01/21/2012 7:09:45 AM PST by DManA
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To: T.O.K.
The point is that we are sick and tired of big machine politics and we're not going to take it any more!

The most important thing is to take control of the Senate away from Harry Reid and the Democrats. If that happens, who is sitting in the White House becomes less relevant.

If the Republican machine can designate their nominee without listening to the voice of the people - and it's clear that is their intention - then the voice of the people will have to find another way to become heard.

Having Obama back in the White House for another four years with a Republican controlled Senate and House would result in some level of gridlock, with Obama vetoing a lot of legislative efforts. This outcome might be better than handing full control of our government over to a big political machine that has only it's own best interests at heart.

I honestly don't think I can stomach voting for somebody as bad as Obama, but I can sympathize with those who might. And it would be almost as unsettling to have to vote for Romney to beat Obama, specially if Romney hasn't earned the chance, but has just been shoe-horned in by the Republican machine.

This is the reason why the Tea Party exists - because some of us can't stand the big party politics, including Republicans who just want the status quo of big government, big taxes, big power, big crony-capitalism and big corruption.

28 posted on 01/21/2012 7:09:54 AM PST by tentmaker
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To: beebuster2000

Doesn’t matter. I am bending my principles way more than I am comfortable to vote for Newt if necessary. There is NO WAY I will vote for Romney under ANY conditions. Take that to the bank there. If you call me a RINO than you are the dumbest person on Earth.


29 posted on 01/21/2012 7:11:13 AM PST by napscoordinator (Newt MUST win the nomination to get rid of Romney and Obama....Dear God let November 2012 go our way)
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To: izzatzo

Once upon a time, the stupid party nominated a man named Romley to run for mayor. Mr Romley was soundly defeated in the election.

On election night a reporter asked him: “Mr Romley, what do you think is the biggest reason for your defeat tonight?”

Mr Romley said: “The Voters.”.

The reporter asked: “What do you mean?”

Mr Romley said” “Well obviously it’s their fault. If they’d voted for me I’d have won.”


30 posted on 01/21/2012 7:13:31 AM PST by DManA
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To: Erik Latranyi

Are you really that naive?


31 posted on 01/21/2012 7:17:54 AM PST by DManA
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To: Erik Latranyi

Experts say to get your kids to obey, give them the illusion of a choice. Would you rather eat your broccoli first or your liver?

That never worked in my house. Maybe my kids are too smart.


32 posted on 01/21/2012 7:19:42 AM PST by DManA
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To: T.O.K.
but some of her fans are shocked at a recent proclamation that she will vote for Barack Obama if Mitt Romney becomes the Republican nominee.

This is like a fire base commander, confronted with being overrun, calling in an alpha strike on his own position.

33 posted on 01/21/2012 7:20:58 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: reefdiver

34 posted on 01/21/2012 7:23:22 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: T.O.K.

This sounds like the same nihilistic strategy as summoning the twelvth imam.


35 posted on 01/21/2012 7:24:48 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: T.O.K.


36 posted on 01/21/2012 7:25:18 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: beebuster2000

“4 more years of Obama” is a Very Scary thought. Congress has been neutered, and the Czars are running the whole Country. Sunstein’s “nudge” philosophy would be abandoned, and Valarie Jarrett’s “Social Justice” scheme would be fully implemented by decree.


37 posted on 01/21/2012 7:32:24 AM PST by radioone
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
The only way Romney will get the nomination is if he is anointed to it by the Republican leadership

Or he wins the most delegates in the primaries.

38 posted on 01/21/2012 7:32:51 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: central_va

That’s common sense, something very few people around these parts seem to have.


39 posted on 01/21/2012 7:36:45 AM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: T.O.K.

She reminds me of the French government leading up to Iraq War. The so-called ally at first gave an impression of ‘abstain’ in UN. Later, it’s obvious that they’re working hard to sabotage by helping Sadam in UN. It is one thing to stay at home or vote for 3rd party. It is another to directly vote for Obama.


40 posted on 01/21/2012 7:38:26 AM PST by paudio (0bama is like a bad mechanic who couldn't fix your car - he just makes it worse. Get somebody else!)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Question: can a conservative do more damage to the RINO party from the inside or from the outside, i.e. third party? Paging Machiavelli.


41 posted on 01/21/2012 7:39:19 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
What she is saying is clear. The only way Romney will get the nomination is if he is anointed to it by the Republican leadership, who have already expressed their support for just him.

From time to time I've said that the purpose of the Republican party is to maintain the pretense that there was opposition to the Democrat/Socialist agenda, while accepting payoffs from the socialists for not being all that effective. With respect to the Republican establishment, this is true.

The Establishment benefits from big government, whether it be Republican or Democrat. They get calls from constituents to fix this or that problem the constituent has with this or that government agency. Their importance (and revenue) rests on there continuing to BE problems with big government. The Republican establishment NEEDS the Democrat agenda.

The only solution is to purge the RINOs, and never cease in the mission.

42 posted on 01/21/2012 7:41:31 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: T.O.K.

If you want to “punish” the GOP, do it the right way.

If “machine politics” make us miserable, then dismantle the damn machine!!

EVERY member of the House goes up for re-election every two years. That means EVERY spineless GOP coward and RINO, from Boehner on down, needs our support to get their jobs back.

Uh ... no, sorry.

The so-called Republican “establishment” — those same old RINOs who corrupted our fiesty young freshmen last year and force-fed us Mittens Romney — is made up of long-term officeholders. THROW THEM ALL OUT!!

REPEAT — THROW THEM ALL OUT!! Starting with Cryin’ John Boehner!!


43 posted on 01/21/2012 7:44:43 AM PST by DNME (A monarch's neck should always have a noose around it. It keeps him upright. - Robert Heinlein)
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To: Rome2000

Sometimes it is wise, in the heat of battle, to pause for a moment and look down range. The Evil party’s bench is as weak as ours going into 2016, maybe weaker.


44 posted on 01/21/2012 7:46:30 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

“WE are the GOP! WE vote in the primaries! WE control who is our nominee!”

No not really, a few states determine the nominee. 9 times out of 10 I have no say in who the nominee is. By the time the Arizona primary comes the nominee has pretty much been determined.


45 posted on 01/21/2012 7:48:15 AM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Blaming the GOP when you don’t get your way is childish. WE are the GOP! WE vote in the primaries! WE control who is our nominee!

Now Erik, get real. Don't be bringing rational logical thought into this. I mean, you are absolutely right of course. But don't you realize it's so much more satisfying for some to sit around and blame Karl Rove and the rest of the guys in his underground bunker for controlling the entire world? Don't you realize that even Rush Limbaugh was launched (before Bain Capital was invented) to one day be a tool of Mitt Romney and the party apparatchiks?

Seriously, no logic and reason is required for a thread like this....

46 posted on 01/21/2012 7:49:54 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: beebuster2000

“Same as voting for Obama. fine as long as you realize that and are willing to accept 4 more years of Obama to make a point.

What would that point be exactly again?”

The central point in this issue is:

IF America is to go socialist, do you want it done under a Democrat or a Republican?

If it is to happen, I want it to occur under Obama. That way there will be at least a hope that the Republicans might be seen as the solution to a socialism which the Democrats would ‘own’.


47 posted on 01/21/2012 7:51:25 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: T.O.K.

Who is Joyce Kaufman and what is her history? Anyone know?

I think I smell a Ron Paul Liberatarian (Liberal). Many of them voted for Obama, furious Paul lost the nomination. Now they argue - don’t vote for Republicans - and both parties stink, which is like saying - vote for Obama.


48 posted on 01/21/2012 7:51:44 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: C. Edmund Wright

The epitome of childishness believing everything the big folks tell you.


49 posted on 01/21/2012 8:07:20 AM PST by DManA
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To: T.O.K.

you know the best thing about this race? it is flushing out all the RINO’s hidden in our midst!

So, not only will we take down Romney in the end, but we will end the futures of pretenders like Christie as well!


50 posted on 01/21/2012 8:08:15 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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