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Posted on 01/21/2012 6:43:43 AM PST by tomkat
It's 0930 EST and there's nothing in the sidebar that looks like a live thread for the SC primary . . .
Romney proves he is a chickensh+t over the Ham House fiasco. I am sure Rick would not have backed away from it with Gingrich. That Mitt, what a work of art. Now he is spinning more garbage for the assembled mass media. If he is somehow denied the first place, it will be a delight in and of itself just to see the looks on Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter, Karl Rove, Lindsay Graham, John McCain Jeb Bush, Nikki Haley, Bay Buchanan, Peggy Noonan, (and now John Bolton—big disappointment) all these peoples’ faces over Romney slipping away from his coronation by the elite and having to fight for every inch of it. My next guess? The elite RINO establishment tries to keep Paul and Santorum out of remaining debates for some reason. We will see. We will see. I also do wonder what poor Meghan McCain is going to do. Guess she will be a early starter of “Republicans for Obama” Group that will no doubt emerge and say the Republican party has been hijacked by Goldwater extremists, regardless of whether Rick or Gingrich gets the nomination. I cannot STAND these RINOs.
Got to top 446,000 votes. That is the 2008 Republican Primary vote!!! Keeping my fingers crossed. “All” South Carolina citizens/voters, get out there and vote and break every vote record a Republican POTUS Primary in South Carolina has ever seen. Vote for Newt, Rick, Ron & Mitt. Just vote in massive numbers. It will really hurt Obama, the failed and un-American, job killing, POTUS for all of America and all her citizens be they White, Black, Hispanic, Asian, minority, etc.!!! POTUS Obama needs to be dropped like a bad habit!!!
“How many more excuses are going to come up for why Santorum won Iowa?”
What the bloody hell are you talking about?
“You made a very odd reply to me yesterday on the subject of marriage.”
Um, you said that shacking up was the same as being married. No, it’s not. I said there is zero evidence for, (and your own source showed), that there is plenty of evidence against the fact that Karen was married prior to her marriage with Rick.
“I find it a convoluted moral strategy to say that because Rick Santorums wife ONLY LIVED with an old dude for 6 years but never married him, she is somehow more fit to marry than someone who had a previous marriage.”
Yes, that’s because living together isn’t the same as marriage.
“This seems like serious nit-picking to me”
Hardly, not unless you believe that shacking up is the same as being married. As I said, the Catholic church sees marriage as a sacrament, that, like Baptism, you can’t get remarried, just like you can’t get rebaptised.
This is different from how protestants see marriage. It’s important to understand this.
Marrying your mistress is not the same thing as repentence. Repentence would be returning to the wife that you wronged and saying you were wrong to cheat on her.
But then what do I know? Im just a Catholic
That’s bullcrap. The church examines everything. Past marraiges as well as his relationship with Calista. If they determined that his relationship with Calista did not fall within the guidlines of Canon Law for the Sacrament of Marraige, they would never have allowed them to marry in the Church.
Meanwhile, let's remember that Santorum lost his seat because he endorsed RINO Arlen Specter in PA, because the Establishment told him to.
Yeah, that is pretty much what a lot of people in their teens looked like back n the 70s, no better, no worse. Looks like a Young Republican Debater type, if you ask me. Say, that was that hit piece article from the liberal Atlantic. Are you proud of perpetrating it here on Free Republic? Are you a fan of the Atlantic and its writing and its attacks on conservatives? Feel good about it?
The absentee ballots worry me.
Vatican believes that Prudence is a virtue and imprudence (folly) is sinful ... concerns practical matters such as political primaries.
So whatever y’all are bantering about I suspect the Vatican will join in with altura’s arguments. I would, but I am busy with the blizzard of ‘12.
another thought: scandal of Magdelene. Some don’t like to be in a church with such folks. scandal of Judas scares ‘em worse. Discussed under humility section of the guide book.
Well said! I wonder, where does “the no one’s perfect” crowd draw the line? Or are they devoid of morality and principle? They can be pesky things, can’t they?
Of one thing I’m sure, too many people, are wedded to the lowest common denominator. Very sad. They’re life’s expectations do not reach out for something better.
For the record I’m not perfect and I’m certainly not without sin. But I try to be a better person. And I never lose sight of right and wrong.
Google MaryAnn Gingrich’s FBI file. She got caught trying to sell influence...IMO it was only because of Newt’s position that the matter was dropped. (FBI file says she was “mentally unstable”
They were separated six years before the divorce. DId Newt stay married so she could receive the professional help she needed?
Well perhaps you can tell us.
When did the relationship begin hoosiermama?
He was 19, he was an adult when he married Jackie. Young, sure, but still old enough to get legally married.
“THAT is just one more reason that I love women.”
Glad you got on the thread. Are you still snowed in?
And Santorum’s views on individualism are diametrically opposed to Reagan's.
Conservatism is all about personal responsibility, which Santorum would replace with government dependence. And that is no better than Obama’s vision.
The only difference is that one has G-d as the reason for it.
Fighter? LOL. Was Newty the House Speaker who resigned with his tail between his legs because of the faux ethics complaint against him manufactured by the dems?
He was the fellow wasn’t he?
I’m just saying - repentence means turning away from sin. Marrying your mistress is not the same thing as repentence - you are doubling down.
You wouldn’t give Mark Sanford a pass if only he married his mistress it would make it all right - no. You’d side, and rightfully so, with his lawful wife.
Nobody forced Newt to marry. Newt chose, of his own free will to get married. Newt may have regretted his choice of a wife, but the time to discern that is before, not after you get married.
The Catholic church has a radical understanding of marriage, unlike most. Marriage, all marriage is for life.
They are correct. You have to register thirty days before the primary. They will let you have a provisional ballot if you believe you should be registered but are not on the list.
We don't have same day registration, at least for the primary.
Yeah, I might actually have to lift the boycott and tune into Fox News for this one. Maybe there will be a mass suicide. Should be a train wreck.
Oh,I will vote for Newt if he is the nom.
NOONE could be worse than Ibama.
Although, Romney or Paul might be a close second.
What did she say..I missed it? Was it about the marriages?
22 Have faith in God, Jesus answered. 23 Truly[f] I tell you, if anyone says to this mountain, Go, throw yourself into the sea, and does not doubt in their heart but believes that what they say will happen, it will be done for them. 24 Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours. 25 And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive them, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins.  [g]
All we can do is pray for wisdom and guidance, and for God's will in everything, and then trust the rest to Him.
By the time I get to vote here in Ohio, Santorum may also be out and it will be quite easy for me. :)
On that indeed we can agree.
“It amazes me that people think the American people would choose someone like Calista Gingrich as First Lady.”
I’m Catholic and you are wrong. Not all marriages are for life. Do you know when Newt converted to Catholicism?
On that indeed we can agree.
Bears repeating. bttt
I share your concern on the global warming thing.
One thing I liked about Rick Perry was that he promised to shut down the EPA. This agency has hurt business over stuff that doesn’t matter more than any other.
I hate GREEN people. Well, Kermit may be okay, but ...
They’ve now taken around here to putting signs next to handicap parking spaces that are supposedly reserved for ‘Green’ cars ... that have some kind of fuel efficient rating.
I always park my big bus there while wishing I had a Hummer to park there. This is not enforceable and is an insult.
I’m too lazy to appear at the Irving City Council to protest, but I wish someone would.
This stupid green stuff has permeated our society and made money for people like algore. Grrr.
Anyway, we need to keep Newt’s feet to the fire on this.
And we need to work very hard to elect more real conservatives to the house and senate to keep whatever president we end up with in line.
I hope it’s Newt.
Good morning. The snow is melting and the temp is a balmy 37*.
I trust it’s quieter around your hose today. ;>)
Yep! We'll know more after today. If Santorum doesn't do well, it could be over for him.
“I think Newt will run a much more effective campaign than McCain. He will expose Obama.”
Plus, Gingrich wants to win. Whereas, McCain wanted Obama to win.
your hose = your house
Then why was Newt pushing for the public mandate?
See, this is what I don’t get. How does it benefit him to collaborate with the Democrats in selling out our freedoms?
“Santorums views on individualism are diametrically opposed to Reagan’s”
All great change in America begins at the dinner table.
Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged.
I favor the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and it must be enforced at gunpoint if necessary.
If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under.
Let us not forget who we are. Drug abuse is a repudiation of everything America is.
There are no easy answers’ but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.
We might come closer to balancing the Budget if all of us lived closer to the Commandments and the Golden Rule.
Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face.
Yes..and how old was his "teacher" that he married? I don't care how cute people think it is when older women marry boys and teens. I have sons..women can mess up a guys idea of love..sometimes for life if they are manipulative enough.
I think this mess of Newts marriages should all be forgiven on the grounds that some older predator mess up his idea of women from the starting gate.
We need to move on to other issues. It's time to drop it.
Cavuto is so annoying to listen to.
Always sounds like he has phlegm in his throat.
If he can’t clear his throat, he needs to shut up.
This was your response to faucetman's post to me (post 279) regarding seeking a leader who is also a Christ-follower.
You don't need to deny the insult, you made it, and it's no big deal.
In spite of your accusations thereof, I am not 'emotional' nor have I been 'whining.' I'm just observant and persistent, and you don't like it.
I have been stating my opinions regarding your posts on this thread.
And while I'm stating opinions, maybe you can tell me what deriding Santorum's sweater vest or looks accomplishes.....with either an intellectual or political perspective.
I agree that we are on the same page......or at least we should be. That's why there's no call for the nastiness I've seen from you.
“I trust its quieter around your hose today. ;>)”
Yes, the “hose” is quiet and so is the house. I’ll be on this thread all day today and my TV is just across the room and I’ll switch from Fox to CNN to see what the enemies are doing. So far, everyone on Fox has a long face due to Newt being up in the polls.
I have morality and principle.
However, we are not talking about priests or ministers.
We are talking about politicians.
Do you think they got into that position by being pure?
If you believe that, I have some land to sell you.
I am sure that every single one of the Republican politicians has dirt in their past.How do you think they got into their current position?
Since I am a realist, I have to overlook the dirt.Because politicians are not priests.
I might also want to add, I feel that Santorum is not electable.
He looks like a mean person. I dislike him. He looks petty and arrogant. He will not come across well in a debate with Obama.
Just by his attitude on the debate stage, I bet you he treats his staff poorly.
He may spout Christian beliefs, but he looks like a mean person.
I just get that vibe from him.
Well, I never used the distasteful term, shacking up, for one thing.
And, by the way, I think you are a little unbalanced.
You are implying that it is more moral to live with someone than to marry them.
That’s really odd. Really.
And one thing we can all do is pray for Rick, that he sees it, if that's the case.
I love that pic of the Mooch. It’s one of the few that were taken when she was happy and having a good day.
Who is paying you to 'judge' Newt? Good grief, ADULTERY is but one of the TEN Commandants, and it is NOT the unpardonable SIN. Did not Christ say you break one you break them ALL. Can you stand up to the same scrutiny as you are doing to NEWT? GET a real life.
Give it a rest and take 2 aspirin, things will all be better in an hour or so.
You take things far too seriously. Really........
Hah! Well, at least I think Calista will dress tastefully.
No more bare arms in the White House.
“Im Catholic and you are wrong.”
I’m aware that Newt is a convert, so am I. The Catechism agrees with me.
1605 of the Catechism:
I. Marriage in God’s plan
Holy Scripture affirms that man and woman were created for one another: “It is not good that the man should be alone.”92 The woman, “flesh of his flesh,” i.e., his counterpart, his equal, his nearest in all things, is given to him by God as a “helpmate”; she thus represents God from whom comes our help.93 “Therefore a man leaves his father and his mother and cleaves to his wife, and they become one flesh.”94
The Lord himself shows that this signifies an unbreakable union of their two lives by recalling what the plan of the Creator had been “in the beginning”: “So they are no longer two, but one flesh.”95
“Cavuto is so annoying to listen to.
Always sounds like he has phlegm in his throat.
If he cant clear his throat, he needs to shut up.”
Cavuto has MS and it has affected his voice so that isn’t his fault. Yes, he is a Romney guy and was nearly crying today due to Newt’s rise in the polls.