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Posted on 01/21/2012 6:43:43 AM PST by tomkat

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To: altura; EDINVA; All

There was also evidence Sandy Hume was a victim of “Arkancide”.


2,281 posted on 01/21/2012 8:44:29 PM PST by j.argese (Newt ... the Nixon of our time ...)
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To: altura

Hume....He’s supporting Myth Romney.

So, I can’t be easy on him...he is an enemy to conservatism now.

This is politics, not, emotional revenge theater.


2,282 posted on 01/21/2012 8:44:29 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: 2111USMC

???


2,283 posted on 01/21/2012 8:45:10 PM PST by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: parksstp
Beats me.

BTW, great job on your predictions earlier!

2,284 posted on 01/21/2012 8:46:35 PM PST by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: EDINVA
Don’t forget John Bolton who apparently endorsed Romney for no other reason than, after seeming to win 2 primaries, Bolton deemed Romney the inevitable one to win the nomination. That after Newt had said publicly that he’d like Bolton for SoS.

I was hoping John Bolton was cut from the same cloth as Don Rumsfeld. It appears he is more of a Neo-Con than Rumsfeld or Cheney. Sigh.

2,285 posted on 01/21/2012 8:47:22 PM PST by bondserv (God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon.)
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To: CodeToad

Yeah, I’m in a pretty good mood tonight.

Have a nice night.


2,286 posted on 01/21/2012 8:47:48 PM PST by Yankee (ANNOY THE RNC AND THE MEDIA: NOMINATE NEWT GINGRICH!)
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To: Repub4bush

My hope is that the SC result might convince more Nevadans that Rotney is NOT “inevitable”, and that this is a clear time for separation of church and state.

In order for that to happen Newt needs to campaign here.

I look at the literature, signs, and speakers being provided at our precinct meetings. Newt needs to campaign here!

I do not want Rotney to be a foregone conclusion, I know the RP brigades are VERY active, I certainly do not want Newt to come in third.


2,287 posted on 01/21/2012 8:48:56 PM PST by Loyal Sedition
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To: kalee

Green = counties Newt won

Yellow = counties Mitt won

Grey = 1 remaining county that has not reported


2,288 posted on 01/21/2012 8:50:24 PM PST by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: rbmillerjr
Hume....He’s supporting Myth Romney. So, I can’t be easy on him...he is an enemy to conservatism now. This is politics, not, emotional revenge theater.

I saw Hume tonight. His eyes were glazed over when he was talking about Newt. I've never seen anything like that.

Fox needs to do something about that. Watching a reporter who is consumed by revenge, on a network that is supposed to be fair and unbiased, while our country being destroyed by our current president, is a big problem.

Bench. Hume. Roger.

2,289 posted on 01/21/2012 8:52:22 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Kennard

Here are a couple more bad conservatives...

Bill Bennett (just horribly in the tank for Romney, constantly tries to give callers leading questions criticizing Newt, and gets depressed and mopey when a caller likes Newt...pretty much down there with Hugh Hewitt as Romney-approved radio)

Fred Barnes (heard him in the tank for Romney)

Dana Perino (exposed herself as a huge socially liberal RINO Romneyite)

I believe the below have been fair to Newt...

Sean Hannity (really didn’t criticize any candidates, but didn’t like the Bain attacks too much)

Eric Bolling (seems to be in the Hannity mold as above)

Greta Van Susteren (defended Newt a lot, and didn’t tamp down Romney criticism)

Mike Gallagher (seems to like Newt, has a subtle anti-Romney sentiment, claims Romney won’t come on his show because he brought up the Mormon “issue”)

Bill Kristol (seemed to defend Newt as a perfectly viable candidate against other candidates, but he does prefer a new candidate over anyone in the primary)

Dick Morris (seems fair, not really backing anybody, has praised Newt’s performance and said he could win the nomination at various times)

Frank Luntz (I’ve felt he’s been very subtly in the tank for Newt at various times, seems sincere about giving Newt free advice to improve his campaign)

Mark Levin (he’s definitely put Newt over Mitt in most of his analysis, of course he prefers Santorum and formerly Bachmann)

Andrea Tantaros (not totally sure about her but she seemed to defend Newt at various times)

Janine Turner (bonafide Newtist in the Sarah Palin mold)

Kellyanne Conway (was huge Newt booster, now is officially on his campaign staff)

Bill O’Reilly’s a classic finger-in-the-wind guy on this type of thing, and has basically backed whoever’s leading in the polls at the time


2,290 posted on 01/21/2012 8:53:31 PM PST by JediJones
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To: bondserv

Initially, when Todd Palin endorsed Newt, she said he’d gone rogue. THEN, she said ‘if’ she lived in SC, she would vote for Newt ‘to keep the contest going.’ Not so much because she was in favor of Newt. So carefully worded, you’d have thought it was Clinton.

Sarah’s statement and Todd’s and Perry’s endorsements probably helped somewhat, but credit where credit is due. Newt won tonight because of Newt. He has the ability to articulate clearly and boldly what we all believe.


2,291 posted on 01/21/2012 8:54:17 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: 2111USMC

Not so great on the percentages. Bombed on turnout projections. Raw totals for Romney, Paul and Santorum are pretty much in line. Almost 600,000 people! Higher than 2000.

Off by 6,000 on Romney and Paul totals. 14,000 on Santorum. But Newt, Newt

There’s an After-Action Crow report of the counties I’m prepping for tomorrow.

I think it’s also important now to bring up the fact that out of 155 counties, Romney has won exactly 5 that are traditionally Republican and were carried by McCain in 2008. 4 of those counties are in IA and 2 of them McCain barely held on to carry that Bush won by larger margins. The other county is Beaufort in SC. In every traditional Republican County, or even the Swing Counties that McCain lost, Romney has failed to carry any of them. And this is supposed to be the guy that does well with moderates/independents?

As for Newt, what’s impressive is the sheer number of conservatives that came out to vote. Yes, he got nearly 40% and people thought for him to get there Santorum would have to be down around 10%. But combined, the two of these men grabbed nearly 57%-60% of the vote. And they were doing this in the small blue counties and in lib places like Orangeburg. Newt did very well, but surprisingly so did Santorum and they did so without stepping on each other’s toes.


2,292 posted on 01/21/2012 8:56:36 PM PST by parksstp (Articulate Conservatives look for Converts. RINO's look for Democrat Heretics.)
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To: EDINVA
Initially, when Todd Palin endorsed Newt, she said he’d gone rogue. THEN, she said ‘if’ she lived in SC, she would vote for Newt ‘to keep the contest going.’ Not so much because she was in favor of Newt. So carefully worded, you’d have thought it was Clinton.

Sarah’s statement and Todd’s and Perry’s endorsements probably helped somewhat, but credit where credit is due. Newt won tonight because of Newt. He has the ability to articulate clearly and boldly what we all believe.

Well Said!!

2,293 posted on 01/21/2012 8:57:04 PM PST by bondserv (God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon.)
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To: 2111USMC

Yes, I figured that out after I hit post. ;)


2,294 posted on 01/21/2012 8:57:47 PM PST by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: bondserv

I wonder how many people voted for Newt merely because that isiot McLame endorsed Romney, and we all know what a putz McLame is!


2,295 posted on 01/21/2012 9:02:14 PM PST by MagUSNRET
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To: JediJones

Good additions to the list. Bennett has been a big disappointment like Coulter.

Barnes was pumping ;-) Romney on Hewitt’s show (with Hugh’s blushing support) and made me change the station. Won’t be tuning in to Hewitt’s show in the future.


2,296 posted on 01/21/2012 9:04:13 PM PST by bondserv (God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon.)
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To: Yankee

I am concerned about NV and see that as a likely loss. McCain won in 2008 even losing NV, but keep in mind, he also won in NH.

That said, he won SC and FL as well. I think with SC and FL wins hopefully under his belt, maybe even NV could be somewhat of a race and he can win enough of the others to still win despite not having won NH and almost assuredly losing NV.

I think Gingrich can and will win, but it won’t be as easy as SC unfortunately in all the states.


2,297 posted on 01/21/2012 9:06:56 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: MagUSNRET

roflmao .. That thought never entered my mind.


2,298 posted on 01/21/2012 9:07:29 PM PST by badpacifist (Hey Libs ......Is your dream turning into a nightmare yet? Newt 2012)
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To: MagUSNRET
I wonder how many people voted for Newt merely because that isiot McLame endorsed Romney, and we all know what a putz McLame is!

Voted for McLame with my nose pinched closed. Palin was the only reason I chose to drive to the voting booth in '08.

2,299 posted on 01/21/2012 9:07:37 PM PST by bondserv (God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon.)
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To: Brices Crossroads
Don’t forget as well that Florida is a closed primary. In South Carolina, Newt won 40-28, but he carried GOP voters 45-28, a 17% margin. Newt only won the indies by 31-26.

The takeaway: Mittens has a much steeper hill to climb in Florida. Florida may be a more “diverse” (Translate: liberal) state than S.C. but the primary electorate will be less diverse (translate: more conservative).

Santorum is going to fade because people will not want to waste a vote. This will help Newt run up huge margins in the panhandle and the I-4 corridor that Willard will be unable to overcome elsewhere.

Love your analysis. What do you suppose Mitt's campaign strategists are thinking about the scenario you've just laid out? They've also got to realize that Florida is the do or die state for Mitt.

Do you think they'll try to counter Newt by opting for the traditional all-out negative ad blitz - or do you think they're realizing that they've got to consult Sun Tzu for a better strategy?

One thing is certain - they're not about to fold their tents and go home. They're about to do something.

2,300 posted on 01/21/2012 9:07:41 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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