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1 posted on 01/21/2012 9:20:24 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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2 posted on 01/21/2012 9:22:44 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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3 posted on 01/21/2012 9:23:30 AM PST by Jet Jaguar (Romney=Gun Grabber.)
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4 posted on 01/21/2012 9:25:02 AM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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I just don't see these people surviving the collapse of civilization


5 posted on 01/21/2012 9:26:10 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Whatever happened to that Amy Summerland sailing chick?)
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Funny how three years of “Hope” and “Change” will do that to people.


6 posted on 01/21/2012 9:26:45 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Santorum vs. Romney: 1 state a piece. **SANTORUM** is leading Conservative in Delegate Total To-Date)
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To: Jet Jaguar
A fairly vapid piece, in my opinion.

The government has no money. Government charity will come to an inevitable end. Huge government budget cutbacks mean huge government layoffs.

The free market is a good thing. Big business is (mostly) a good thing -- but corporations are not your friend and they don't owe you a living.

Things are changing, and in the world which is being born, being able to stand on your own two feet and be self-sufficient is a good idea. The old way of life was show-cased after Katrina: people sat around and waited for someone to show up and rescue them. The smart people today are ready to take care of themselves.

This article emphasizes "the end of civilization", which is part of the concern, but hardly the whole picture.

8 posted on 01/21/2012 9:30:07 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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They are following in the footsteps of hippies in the 1960s who set up communes to separate themselves from what they saw as a materialistic society, and the survivalists in the 1990s who were hoping to escape the dictates of what they perceived as an increasingly secular and oppressive government.

Well, now expect the government to send in new recruits (police) to surveil. Jeeez, people just never think these things through.

13 posted on 01/21/2012 9:34:47 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Jet Jaguar

I started getting concerned about six years ago. Two weeks before Obama was elected, I bought a small farm with a new home on in in central Kentucky. We moved to it as our permanent residence in August on 2011. We moved here from Seattle, which was my home since 1966. We are preparing our garden for next year, a pasture fore livestock, and a 40x80 building. We put all discretionary income into PM’s that we have in our possession or can get to in a few minutes.

We are preppers, and we expect the beginning of the SHTF to be this year. It becomes clearer and clearer with every news story. And lately, exposing the lies of the government and press are as easy as exposing the lies of teenagers.


17 posted on 01/21/2012 9:44:03 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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It only makes good sense. It doesn’t take anything out of a science-fiction novel to put your world upside down.

A Katrina, an earthquake, a mid-west-sized flood can take down normal supply lines and utility lines for even weeks.

And the most obvious is the loss of your job. If in the present economy you lost your job, how long will it be before you go back to work? You should work toward having enough on hand to see you through.

If you can survive a couple months out of work from whats in your pantry, you can also survive a bank collapse, or a Katrina for about that same period of time too.

Whatever happens, you should prepare for the family members who show up at your doorstep. You aren’t going to turn them away, so you’d better have a little extra.


19 posted on 01/21/2012 9:46:41 AM PST by marron
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They seem to be dumbfounded by this? Have they not noticed that groceries cost 40% more this year than last year?Or what would happen if our fuel supply was cut off for an extended period how fast the grocery store shelves would be empty?Am sending hubby out to Kmart in a short while for a few more dozen canning jars.Kmart is having a sale this weekend that is 15% off of most items except those listed like electronics in case anyone wants anything.


21 posted on 01/21/2012 9:51:18 AM PST by chris_bdba
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***.... hippies in the 1960s who set up communes..... and the survivalists in the 1990s who were hoping to escape the dictates of ........... secular and oppressive government.***

Nonsense. The hippies were not survivalists. they wanted a place for Sex and drugs. Their communes did not last long.

SURVIVALISTS started under the gross incompetence of the Jimmy Carter administration when it was found survival would be every man for himself. Mel Tappan’s books and articles in GUNS and AMMO became popular at that time.

This is when assault style rifles became really popular and the survivalist books by Kurt Saxon were selling out.

Survivalism waned for a time under Reagan, then revived with the Y2K nonsense.

Now it is back again with the gross incompetence of Obama.

I’ve been in survivalist mode since 1960. I had hand written notebooks on survival and wood craft since I first found a copy of Ellsworth Jaegar’s book WILDWOOD WISDOM, which was the FIRST hardcover book I ever bought.


22 posted on 01/21/2012 9:51:20 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( P!$$ on the Taliban. Issue MORE BEER!)
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We are essentially in a civil war over emancipating our children from debt slavery. The deficits really are that huge. http://www.futurnamics.com/civilwar.php


24 posted on 01/21/2012 9:53:58 AM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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Always be prepared no matter what society is up to,things can change in a heart beat.


31 posted on 01/21/2012 10:05:42 AM PST by Vaduz
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"Subculture of Americans prepares for civilization's collapse"

We would be better served if Reuters did a story about those who are causing civilization's collapse.

33 posted on 01/21/2012 10:14:07 AM PST by Batrachian
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Obama could suspend the elections due to a horrific economic collapse he caused. He is desperate enough.


37 posted on 01/21/2012 10:21:31 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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The prepper movement is undeniably fascinating for media types and it’s an easy story.

I don’t know what will happen and pray/hope that somehow we will survive the seemingly inevitable economic collapse and disruption of services. Hyperinflation seems to be the most likely scenario given our weak leadership and penchant for printing money. Either scenario will result in chaos for an undetermined amount of time.

I think being prepared to survive any disruption is just common sense. I don’t think there is anything weird or strange about it, but I know lots of decent folks who think it’s weird. Our increasing reliance and trust of government gives people a false sense of security. We will not rely on anyone other than my myself, family, friends, and neighbors.

My choice, my money, my farm, and my time. If I am wrong I will be happy. The hobby farm is still a great lifestyle for my family and my kids will learn many skills that are more meaningful than videogames.


39 posted on 01/21/2012 10:23:37 AM PST by volunbeer (Keep the dope, we'll make the change in 2012!)
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bflr


45 posted on 01/21/2012 10:48:56 AM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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Subculture of Americans prepares for civilization's collapse

So now being prepared and self-reliant gets you labelled as being in a "subculture," whereas those on the rooftops of N'awlins during Katrina were just poor victims of George Bush, who didn't like them to begin with.

47 posted on 01/21/2012 11:10:41 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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Ominous black clouds of doom cover the edge of the horizon, the lightening is flashing and there is the distant sound of thunder! The storm flags are going up, who you heed them?

I think that at best we are in for a collapse much like that of Argentina. A excellent 12 part documentary on the economic collapse of Argentina can be see on YouTube with part one here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH6_i8zuffs

I am very aware that if it’s the great end as foretold in the Bible that there is nothing I can do to stop or change it, but history is full of instances and times when man or nature have caused such a calamity that people have cried out and begged God to end it all.

The bible has many verse such as this:

A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3

This verse and others are there for a reason and I urge all to take heed of them, because we are clearly on the edge. Everyday there is a new story about the ‘Yutes’ who grow more restless everyday and when you add the fact that because of the economy people are already on edge it won’t take much to set things off.

Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes:

“Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8)” (1998)
Quark: Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They’re a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don’t believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.

Today we have ‘yutes’ who roam our streets who are with out morals, without respect for law or life itself. They will look are you with the same ‘doll eyes’ a shark does before he eats you and they will feel no more compassion than the shark does.

That will be the test of many. Most preppers I know are Christian people and they will hesitate to do what they might have to do to stop the ‘yutes’. On the other hand the ‘yutes’ won’t think twice nor lose a minute of sleep, in fact they will smile and laugh about it.

For those who are just starting or are old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpfull. You can download it at:

http://www.tomeaker.com/kart/preparedness1i.pdf

(NOTE THIS DOWNLOAD IS FREE AND I DO NOT MAKE A DIME OFF OF IT. ALSO NOTE THAT THE MANUAL IS CLEARLY MARKED AS NOT BEING FOR SALE. I PUT TOGETHER THIS MANUAL FOR ONLY ONE PURPOSE AND THAT IS TO HELP FELLOW PATRIOTS TO PREPARE THEMSELVES FOR WHAT I BELIEVE IS COMING.)

For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

Though I believe that the collapse we face will be much like that of Argentina I also believe that ours will be much more violent and there will be what I call ‘Pocket Progoms’ which will be very violent and life for some will quickly become much more like that of Bosina.

For a somber, yet realistic look at what SHFT in Bosina was like I urge you to read some of a Bosinian name Selco’s posted here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2798007/posts

If you like to read more about what SHTF in Bosnia was like take a look at this post on Bosnia War Survivor Selco’s Blog at:

http://shtfschool.com/

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger. Underestimation can be fatal.”

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”


74 posted on 01/21/2012 2:06:21 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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Southern Europe Permanently Crippled, The Only Tool Left Is Hyper Inflation
80 posted on 01/21/2012 2:23:41 PM PST by blam
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