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Obama vs. Romney: Who will blue-collar Americans hate less?
WaPo via Virginia News ^ | January 20, 2012 | Harold Meyerson

Posted on 01/21/2012 11:01:16 AM PST by neverdem

Romney is the model of everything in modern American capitalism that makes people pine for the kinder, gentler capitalism that his father personified. As the head of American Motors, George Romney, Mitt’s pop, made cars. Mitt makes deals. As Michael Tomasky noted this week, George Romney refused a bonus of $100,000 after American Motors had a good year in 1960, saying that no top executive needed to make more than his $225,000 annual salary ($1.4 million today). Romney the lesser has a fortune estimated in the hundreds of millions for his work in private equity, extracting vast amounts of money from the firms — successful and not...

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Worse yet, Romney comes off as a walking, talking compendium of upper-class cluelessness. His offer of a $10,000 bet to Texas Gov. Rick Perry, his dismissal of his yearly speaker fees (around $370,000) as pocket money, his equation of corporations and people — these and other off-the-gold-cufflink comments depict a guy whose points of intersection with the lives of most Americans are few and far between...

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Think of George Wallace’s attacks on not only minorities but also on their enablers — “pointy-head bureaucrats,” professors and elitist journalists (“Huntley and Chinkley and Walter Contrite,” Wallace said in a burst of almost surreal demagogy) who had no understanding of or sympathy for the white working class...

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The white working class may be a shrinking segment of the American electorate, but it’s still massive. Over time, as this group has become deunionized and downwardly mobile, and as GOP standard-bearers have learned to channel Wallace’s appeal in less explicit ways, these voters have moved steadily into the Republican column. But with Romney as Obama’s opponent, the surge of blue-collar whites into Republican ranks may be smaller this year than GOP strategists have anticipated...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gingrich; obama; romney; santorum

1 posted on 01/21/2012 11:01:19 AM PST by neverdem
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To: upchuck

Ping!


2 posted on 01/21/2012 11:03:26 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

In a Wall Street versus Main Street election, the Dems would have a field day painting Romney as Mr. Wall Street personified.


3 posted on 01/21/2012 11:05:42 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: neverdem

Blue collar voters, the union rank and file at least, will NEVER leave Obama. He appears to be a ticket to some sort of freebies to them and plays well to the natural human failings of jealousy and envy.


4 posted on 01/21/2012 11:07:42 AM PST by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: neverdem

Stupid question ... they’re clones of each other ... except animal husbandry will have to answer the black/white thing.


5 posted on 01/21/2012 11:09:42 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: neverdem

Half truths are always effective. We are not a classles society. We had better understand that if we are to fight the left and replace envy with opportunity.


6 posted on 01/21/2012 11:14:53 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: upchuck; Billthedrill
The set of Daffy Duck candidates that can beat Obama does not include glass jaw Mitt, IMHO, after seeing Mitt's performance last week.

BTW, the GOP got sixty percent of the white vote in November 2010, the most in the history of exit polls, IIRC.

7 posted on 01/21/2012 11:16:41 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Baynative
“Blue collar voters, the union rank and file at least, will NEVER leave Obama. He appears to be a ticket to some sort of freebies to them and plays well to the natural human failings of jealousy and envy.”

That is true only for public sector unions. Private sector union workers often vote Republican based only on gun issues and other social issues.

Most workers in the oil patch are union, you think they will be voting for the dumb bastard?

How about the teamsters that Obumbles just screwed over?

8 posted on 01/21/2012 11:20:00 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: neverdem
I usually disagree with Meyerson 99% of the time, but he's come close here. Still, he doesn't quite get it.

a liberal, cultural elitist who sees — from the ivory tower — the mission of government as catering to (lazy) minorities.

No, it's liberal cultural elitist who sees from the ivory tower the mission of government to tell you how to run your house, your business, and how to raise your family.

9 posted on 01/21/2012 11:23:17 AM PST by Darren McCarty (Anybody but Romney or Obama)
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To: Beagle8U

It isn’t realy true for either private or public sector union workers, though Public sector union workers are far worse than blue collar private sector workers.


10 posted on 01/21/2012 11:26:56 AM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Baynative
Blue collar voters, the union rank and file at least, will NEVER leave Obama. He appears to be a ticket to some sort of freebies to them and plays well to the natural human failings of jealousy and envy.

Tell that to those who work in the coal, oil and natural gas industries who have been pounded by Obama's energy and environmental policies. Check comment# 7, and the threads it links.

11 posted on 01/21/2012 11:29:23 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Since Mitt’s campaign manager hasn’t said that he’s giving up on white, uneducated blue collar voters, I’ll say that Mitt is less hated.


12 posted on 01/21/2012 11:38:06 AM PST by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: neverdem
Obama vs. Romney:

That was a short read....

Need not read any further.

13 posted on 01/21/2012 11:55:34 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: neverdem

I have worked both blue collar & white collar in my lifetime.

I am old enough to have actually worked at American Motors in Kenosha, Wis., when Geo Romney was the CEO.

He came to the plant a minimum of once a year & walked thru & shook everyone’s hand. Those who he knew from prior years got a personal remark or 2. In those days, AM was very busy-—the plant was working 10 hour shifts/3 shifts a day—overlapping the shifts—6 days a week. I worked in the offices & we worked many a Saturday.

I don’t think Mitt is fit to shine his daddy’s shoes.

I have worked in plenty of high profile companies: Kroger’s-—Oscar Mayer—Shell Oil-—2 large Los Angeles grocery chains— & I never saw the CEO ‘making the rounds’. He was a very energetic person, from what I recall.


14 posted on 01/21/2012 12:45:02 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: neverdem
If it's 0bama vs. Romney, it won't matter who I vote for.

America will cease to exist in it's current form.

Mitt won't overturn 0bamaCare, and that will be the death knell for the USA.

So if it comes to Bammy or Mutt - I won't vote for either. I will redouble my efforts to prepare for the coming economic collapse and “Great Depression II”.

15 posted on 01/21/2012 12:55:46 PM PST by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: neverdem

They’re both rent-seeking parasites with degrees from Harvard.

I fail to discern any difference between them.


16 posted on 01/21/2012 1:04:42 PM PST by NVDave
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping.

Won’t make any matter where. This fall will not be about nobama vs Mittens. And that’s a good thing as nobama would squash Myth like a bug.

This fall will be about Newt vs nobama. Debates will be a sellout as we watch Newt destroy nobama from every which way. In fact, I think there’s a strong possibility nobama will refuse to participate in a debate with Newt. :)


17 posted on 01/21/2012 2:38:13 PM PST by upchuck (Let's have the Revolution NOW before we get dumbed down to the point that we can't.)
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To: neverdem
Obama vs. Romney: Who will blue-collar Americans hate less?

I don't hate either one of them, nor will I vote for either one of them.

18 posted on 01/21/2012 2:38:46 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Eccl 10 v. 19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.)
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To: Baynative; Beagle8U; neverdem
Blue collar voters, the union rank and file at least, will NEVER leave Obama.

I was a "blue collar union worker" for 30 plus years and never once in my life have I voted for a democrat.

19 posted on 01/21/2012 2:56:10 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Eccl 10 v. 19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.)
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To: neverdem
People can use for political advantage the talking points which should never be regarded as the full story, but it up to the candidate to educate a public on those attack points.

However to use class warfare to win an election, is duplicitous.

Romney made $350K mol total in speaking engagements 6 events, Bill Clinton made $70-80 million in 6 years in speaking engagements @ 150K an hr, Rush was offered $1 Million, Ben Stein $50-75 per hour, etc.. Confessions of a Public Speaker

I find if you play on a person's lack of knowledge in regard to taxes, Hedge funds and their related tax saving locations [will use the Democrat Chellie Pingree and husband billionaire Donald Sussman hedge fund tax incentive, St John- all legal is what the territories offer to attract business], double taxation, retirement income and capital gains off money/holdings which has already been taxed when earned, etc..the media knows well what they are doing and for Diane Sawyer to go WOW on a given speaker's income when she alone makes an ongoing speaker $50K income per speech [these amounts may not be current] is what annoys me most--intentional misleading of the public to influence an election.

"Judge Learned Hand" — as long as it is not illegal, people can try to lower their taxes as much as possible: "Anyone may arrange his affairs so that his taxes shall be as low as possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which best pays the treasury. There is not even a patriotic duty to increase one's taxes. Over and over again the Courts have said that there is nothing sinister in so arranging affairs as to keep taxes as low as possible. Everyone does it, rich and poor alike and all do right, for nobody owes any public duty to pay more than the law demands." [Source]

The media is biased to the degree of being criminal. The public is only reacting as hoped to class warfare tactics..people will believe what they want to believe--according to where their station is in life.

I would love to hear more on what effects We The People going forward to build this economy even faster, get people back to work and build a stronger national defense without continued overwhelming government waste. Our Educational system is building not a better America, but a less informed and less safe America.."Veni, vidi, vici" of America.

Instead: "Veni, vidi, vici" Obama 2012!

20 posted on 01/21/2012 3:11:16 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: Baynative
Blue collar voters, the union rank and file at least, will NEVER leave Obama. He appears to be a ticket to some sort of freebies to them and plays well to the natural human failings of jealousy and envy.

A good analysis, imho.

21 posted on 01/21/2012 6:00:09 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (religion + guns = liberty.)
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