Posted on 01/22/2012 6:45:03 AM PST by stratboy
Ann Coulter was just on Fox and Friends. She was crying over the fact that Romney got decimated in South Carolina. She offered a few talking points from the Romney camp including:
1. Newt is the lease conservative of all Candidates running. 2. Newt is unelectable because of his failed marriages. 3. The Freddy Mac non-issue. 4. John K asked a legitimate question and he is a completely fair and honorable reporter. 5. South Carolina is going back to it democratic roots and backing someone who calls Obama a socialist.
She laid out the establishment talking point that everyone who voted for McCain, will vote for Romney, that we need to get the independents.
Wow, that’s quite a stretch. You must get some good overtime pay from your handlers for such creativity. I don’t think they are gettin’ their money’s worth though.
I know that! I was making a statement by using "tail."
and it isn't "tattling" when an obvious troll is seen and brought to the attention of the mods, there are hundreds of thousands of FReepers, and the number of mods available at any given time are by my estimate, less than a dozen. Do the math.
Thank you for the lecture! Did anybody ask for your assistance?...or did you just assume they needed it?
It's no surprise that you would defend a "tattle-tail"!
Again, do everybody a favor and mind your own business. Few people like tattle-tails and busy-bodies!
Ohhhh, I am positively shaking in my boots. Hey, I got a suggestion for you too...
I believe I was clear, and I think you Know what I was saying and I’m beginning to resent your demanding I use terminology approved by you. Are you the official in charge of terminology and definitions and if so are you going to have me zotted?
LOL!
The consensus arrived at during the 2,400+ post live thread was that Hume's comments bordered on anger at Newt for supposedly outing Brit's son as gay thereby causing him to commit suicide. Considering that Newt has a gay sister, it was also felt that if anyone outed Hume's son, it was Dick Armey who likely could have become speaker if Newt was blamed for the outing and subsequent death.
All speculation of course except the Hume's extreme bitterness last night after Newt's win was commented on by many during the live thread.
Ann is the Lee Corso (College Gameday) of elections. Not so fast...
Ann Coulter was a hero here for years. Now she's the object ugly ad hominems because she opposes Newt.
I don't think Newt can attract Reagan Democrats, independents, young people, or women. I want to Republicans to win. I guess that makes me a horrible person, too.
I felt just the same way. It was very satisfying to watch.
But will that approach win over anyone outside of the committed right? I don't think it will.
The conventional wisdom said the same thing about Reagan...
Exact same stuff.
Have faith in the American people to vote for a conservative over a leftist radical.
The reason the RINO establishment is going nuts is:
1. They thought they dispatched Newt long ago, and the lesson was imprinted on the GOP members of Congress.
2. They kept Sarah Palin out, and thought she was the last vestige of the Tea Party kerfluffle.
Or so they thought.
Communication is simply not facilitated when that is done.
Call 'em Commies, or Zipper Heads, or whatever ~ something that means something.
I think he can deal with most of the issues pretty well now. When this campaign first started he hadn't brushed up on "current events" very well and sounded very dated ~ we had some people here convinced he'd turned into some kinda' commie or something due to his ineptitude with current Conservative thought on various policies.
Remember, not everything that's important is always on the agenda. Not everything on the agenda is important. That's true in a lot of things and for all practical purposes Newt had been too focused on the inconsequentals that earn the big bucks ~ he missed out on our transition from the Culture War to Fiscal Responsibility and Fighting Communism (what the battle against Obama and his running dog lackeys would have been called in Eisenhower's day).
I remember when he tried to say something about Illegal Aliens ~ back when he left off politics as a full time occupation they were talking about the "need" to give them driver's licenses. He simply wasn't prepared for the demand to SEND THEM BACK HOME.
He's changed since then but he still seems hung up on the "Dream Plan" ~ which is garbage no matter how you spell it.
I think we can get across to him that the "Dream Plan" is not as good as just giving them a drivable but older car and a full tank of gas and telling them how I35 goes toward the boarder "so get there".
To the question of whether or not Gingrich can win, I've noticed he has a great deal of practice talking to young people.
Obama hasn't ~ at least not in any give and take way. He's what you call a "lecturer". Newt is a "professor" and he is prepared for class.
We have 26 million unemployed young people who need jobs and a future. That's what this campaign is about ~ peeling off that faction in all of its many manifestations from the Democrat coalition ~ and getting them out to vote Republican for every single position up for election this year.
The only way we can save them is to literally dispose of the Democrat party!
I don’t call everyone I disagree with a RINO, only RINOs and don’t often resort to calling them that, by nature I’m not a name caller and don’t usually resort to it but at times it appeals to me to call someone a name but not as a personal attack and the name communist means something else to me, I don’t think Rinos are there yet, and I would have no idea of what a “Zipper Head” might be and don’t think I would use it even if I knew, it sounds “dorky”. Are you the definition monitor and are you going to have me zotted? I’m really into “SAVE AMERICA” conservation instead of being corrected by someone I don’t know who perceives themselves to be some kind of “hall monitor”
I don’t call everyone I disagree with a RINO, only RINOs and don’t often resort to calling them that, by nature I’m not a name caller and don’t usually resort to it but at times it appeals to me to call someone a name but not as a personal attack and the name communist means something else to me, I don’t think Rinos are there yet, and I would have no idea of what a “Zipper Head” might be and don’t think I would use it even if I knew, it sounds “dorky”. Are you the definition monitor and are you going to have me zotted? I’m really into “SAVE AMERICA” conservation instead of being corrected by someone I don’t know who perceives themselves to be some kind of “hall monitor”
(Note: lots of gays in printing due to its proximity to the "arts")
I want to do it justice and reply in detail when I have more time, but I very much appreciate not being called a bot or a troll or someone needing a sandwich (which, if you saw me, I obviously don't!).
But the Gipper won precisely because he was upbeat, forward looking, and promoting a positive vision of restoring America's greatness. The media wouldn't admit it, but he was sunny and genial.
Newt is touchy, hot-headed, harsh, and negative. Not all the time, but often. I'm not getting this from the media, but from my own observation. I don't think that sells with most people. Obama, though a phony, comes off as upbeat, at least he did the last time. I think that's why he won.
If Newt is the nominee I'll vote for him, but I don't think he can carry folks outside of the right.
Again, one more time ~ we are working within the Republican party. It's a coalition. There are people in it I don't like, and others you don't like.
There have been remarkably few real RINOs over the last 20 years ever since we began running LIFELONG Republicans for office in the South ~ we just don't need Conversos to run for us.
The collapse of the Republican party in New England has been obvious for quite some time. We'd need to import Republicans into that region to get control. Romney, in fact, was such an import, and was, in fact, a lifelong Republican, as was his daddy, but he wasn't a UTAH MORMON ~ which makes all the difference. He's never going to be what folks expect.
As industry has relocated FROM New England, their management class has gone with it leaving behind nothing but insurance companies, lawyers, doctors, beer joints and public schools (which are in turmoil).
Scott Brown is a lawyer. One daughter is a doctor.
They are your typical upper middle class New England family. Far removed from farming, factories, extractive industries or even commercial fishing, it's really difficult to get them to go along with real Republican program.
Obama has done nothing about that number.
I think he doesn't care. My sons agree. So do their friends, and their friends.
They all live in the shadow of the White House. Can you imagine what those further away from here think of Obama?
BTW, those young adults playing interactive video games have voice channels available to them. They've been talking about jobs ~ why there aren't any ~ why Obama won't allow for job growth ~ why the Democrats need overthrown and disposed of like trash.
It's something new every day, and often the new idea seems more colored by political opportunity than by practicality. How else to explain his savaging of the Ryan plan? Or his attack on corporate layoffs if a private investment company (with the name "Bain") happens to be involved? His hanging out on the third ring of economic hell, Fannie Mae? His support of, God forbid, "climate change" regulation?
Even if Newt had a good humored, Reaganesque personality, I'd be as worried about him betraying conservatives once in office as I am about Romney. But he doesn't have that personality. He's irascible, pompous, and petty. Often. I don't think he can win with that.
It’s not a stretch at all. That’s the facts from the ground level ~ inside the Constitution.
I agree 100% that Obama doesn't care. The compassion crowd is a very cynical hard-hearted group.
Maybe they will vote for "change" this time. I have a to say, though, I just have a hard time seeing them turning out for newt. I hope I'm wrong if he is the nominee.
I'd guess Newt, like everybody else his age (or within 10 years of it) has been brought up on the idea of NOT messing with Medicare ~ like it's some sort of third-rail.
All that tells you is how out of touch with realpolitik you can get when you are busy making millions of dollars!
Catching Newt and others by surprise, we have moved on from the days of preserving Medicare at all costs ~ Obama actually cut it. I'd bet Newt is up to speed on that issue now.
You do realize that Newt believes GOD called him to run for President. This is hard work for a man his age ~ ask Herman Cain ~ God probably called him as well.
Remember, the Lord finds His prophets where He finds them ~ and He's not terribly concerned with the petty stuff.
The zotting remark was my own obviously inadequate attempt at sarcasm. I know the Republican party is a coalition, I want it to be led by “Conservative” republicans instead of Conservatives being dictated to by what I’m choosng to refer to at this time as RINOs. My point originally was and still is that “Rinos”, and I’m using that name purposly, Republicans In Name Only, because they obviously dumped Newt, who had worked to control spending, from the Speakers Post, and went to spending money like democrats. You don’t have to agree with me and I think we’ve both had enough to say about this.
We've purged most of them.
What you have now are hard core Conservatives in Virginia backing Mitt for no more reason than that's the only way any of them could get a call for the Vice Presidency.
Newt is a Virginia resident these days!
The Constitution specifies that the President and VP have to come from different states!
No way you can call McDonnell or the others "RINO" but you can call them anti-democratic ~ maybe even UNAMERICAN!
When you sell out the voters of your state for your own personal gain you are, of course, a slimeball!!!!
McDonnell and his running dog lackeys are slimeballs ~ Conservative slimeballs but slimeballs none the less.
We will need to have them purged as well!
I’m a Phil Gramm Republican. I’ve been a Freeper since 2000. I’m not the establishment.
Although I have reservations about Romney, I think Gingrich isn’t the right candidate.
He disappoints me on so many levels. The criticisms of him are valid.
I’m not so worked up about the yellowstream media, that in an effort to put an overdue thumb in their eye, I support a guy who’s randomness is a showstopper for most voters. He’s NOT a Reaganesque happy warrior. He can’t make the jump. If you remove “fundamentally”, “systemic”, “profound” and “transformational”, he loses his debate edge.
And the #1 reason I can’t handle him is his attacks on capitalism. I though we wiped our feet of Huey Long style economics in the Republican party when that clown Buchannen left!
I need to see Obama defeated. Mitt is better than GW or W on most issues. Is he Reagan? No. Is he better than Newt? Absolutely.
Yo...mkjessup.
I'm guessing you tried clicking the [HERE] button in my tagline so you could report me to AttackWatch.com.
You did, didn't you...
sheesh
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I agree with point #2. His failed marriages are going to be a problem. I don’t see moderate women jumping on the the bandwagon for a man that has had 2 affairs (and they sure aren’t going to like “the other woman”, Calisa).You can bet the media will be playing up what a wonderful family man Obama is. If Newt were running against Bill Clinton it probably would not have mattered (although it may have been like that sexual harrassment skit on SNL with Tom Brady where the women didn’t considerate it sexual harrassment when Tom did it but did when it was by a less attractive man).
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I’m going to disagree here... Gingrich won the female vote in the South Carolina primary by a pretty significant margin. Unfortunately, Bill Clinton drastically lowered the bar as far as presidents and their character issues go. Let’s not forget that Clinton’s approval numbers were never HIGHER than they were during the entire Monica Lewinsky scandal.
If this were an ordinary election, I would be less inclined to support Gingrich due to his checkered past. But there is nothing ordinary about this year’s election. It may well be our last stand to defend and save what’s left of this great nation, its economy, and our individual freedoms and therefore I want a candidate who is not going to be afraid to campaign against Obama with brutal honesty and gusto. That said, I’m liking Gingrich more and more as our potential nominee everyday.
TShaunK wrote:
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I think what we are looking at is another Sharon Angle situation with Newt and you know how that turned out.
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I don’t think so. Gingrich at least had a successful conservative track record during his speaker as Speaker of the House. He can proudly point to his record of passing welfare reform, balanced budgets, and destroying any chance of Hilary Clinton’s universal health care plan becoming law. Sharron Angle by comparison was a relatively unknown candidate.
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Saw Ann, think she is dead wrong.
Saw Dick Morris, he didn’t think that the first question (which resulted in a Republican standing up to the media slime machine) had anything to do with the surge, but that other debate answers did.
I think he is wrong too. Newt didn’t sit back and take it, he took it to the lib. And then he took it to them again. I was jumping up and down.
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I enjoy listening to Dick Morris’ thoughtful commentary and analyses, but let’s face it... He turns out to be wrong more often than he’s right.
Alzheimers?
Used to teach at a major college. Along with the LUGs (Lesbians-Until-Graduation), you get exposed to all kinds of interesting cultural “behavior”...
Agreed.
Ann Coulter on Gay Marriage and GOPROUD - CPAC 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1wCRCpC3w8
Would you call this
http://thehill.com/video/campaign/203497-romney-likens-work-at-bain-to-obamas-auto-industry-bailout
the proper defense of capitalism????????
Sure you were.
You assume far more than you know...
and are a tail-hole ta-boot! Buh bye!
Whatever. Get back to defending trolls, which seems to be your calling.
LOL!
“Newt is touchy, hot-headed, harsh, and negative.”
Nah, that is just liberal spin. Gingrich looked very upbeat and positive in the debates in SC and after he won a huge victory in South Carolina.
In his victory speech he made a point to mention each candidate and said something very positive about them. Even that dirty no good, back stabbing Romney lol.
wow...and you had been here since 1998?
did you not get the memo or were you some sorta 1950s era soviet style sleeper?
Ann, go away. We the People no longer listen to you.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/11/romneys-advisers-met-with-obama-to-help-craft-obama-care/
BTTT
Exactly how is Mitt different from Obama?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/11/romneys-advisers-met-with-obama-to-help-craft-obama-care/
How is Mitt different from Obama?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/11/romneys-advisers-met-with-obama-to-help-craft-obama-care/
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