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BREAKING NEWS: Family says former Penn State coach Joe Paterno has died AP
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Posted on 01/22/2012 7:34:30 AM PST by Perdogg

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To: Perdogg

May God help the soul of this legendary coach and man.

Given that his last name may be short for Pater Noster and be given to those who make rosaries and religious chaplets, I may have to say an Our Father or rosary for him.


101 posted on 01/22/2012 10:53:59 AM PST by WPaCon
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To: ExNewsExSpook
Well said. JoePa intentionally "knew nothing" about Sandusky. He never once showed a bit of concern for the boys being raped - boys that were paraded right in front of Paterno by Sandusky at numerous events!

Sandusky sat on the dais of Penn State football events with 14 year old boy dates, then brought them back to his room afterwards. And JoePa "knew nothing."

Bless his soul. He'll need it.

103 posted on 01/22/2012 10:58:24 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead
Interesting-after a three year investigation and grand jury proceeding Joe Paterno was not charged with anything. I am fairly certain his soul is just fine because of all the good this man did.

RIP Joe. You will be missed.

104 posted on 01/22/2012 11:06:29 AM PST by Neverforget01 (Beating Romney is so easy McCain did it.)
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To: shadeaud

Justice denied to the pedophile network cover up folks


105 posted on 01/22/2012 11:08:40 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

political statement??

Those who protect child molesters deserve to be punished to the fullest extent.


106 posted on 01/22/2012 11:10:59 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Perdogg
The Illuminati strike again—ever since the Knights Templar protecting the deviants of the cloth.

The coach knew too much.

107 posted on 01/22/2012 11:17:48 AM PST by Happy Rain (The more regulations the better chance of violating them and coming under the heel of the tyrant.)
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To: mom4kittys

>>It was the universitys job to investigate.

Are universities a sovereign state now, like an Indian tribe? When someone comes to you and says they witnessed something heinous, the only responsible action is to ask them if they are sure and if they will testify to it under oath. If they say yes, you pick up the phone and say, “OK. Then, let’s call the police.”

I feel sorry for him, because this certainly affected his will to live and it’s one of the big things he’ll be remembered for, after all the great things he’s done. But, that’s the price we pay for normalizing homosexuality and putting it up on a pedastal that does not allow any critique. JoePa is just another victim of the homosexual/PC war on American virtue.


108 posted on 01/22/2012 11:18:27 AM PST by Bryanw92 (The solution to fix Congress: Nuke em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!)
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To: Neverforget01
Interesting-after a three year investigation and grand jury proceeding Joe Paterno was not charged with anything.

Legally, complete indifference to the victims of child molestation is not a crime.

He did what he thought was right for Penn State.

110 posted on 01/22/2012 11:27:15 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: ExNewsExSpook

Mike McCreary SHOULD have reported the shower rape to the police.To heck with asking his boss first.He witnessed a heinous crime and didn’t try to stop it. The worship of atlhletics is just so wrong.


111 posted on 01/22/2012 11:29:02 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: Perdogg

I heard all this stuff from the media about Paterno. When it comes to the media being able to get or tell the truth, they rate below pond scum to me.

Paterno was a football coach for a big school. Okay? Somewhat impressive.

He was told that one of his coaches was molesting children and because “he didn’t know what to do,” he did nothing.

I don’t know if this is true but if it was, he should be condemned, not resting in peace. That is why Jesus was given authority to judge, He knows everything and knows Paterno’s heart.


112 posted on 01/22/2012 11:30:56 AM PST by Tolkien (Grace is the Essence of the Gospel; Gratitude is the Essence of Ethics.)
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To: Perdogg

Good riddance to bad rubbish


113 posted on 01/22/2012 11:32:01 AM PST by Figment
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To: Tuxedo

No offense, Freepers, but I did wish to see JoePa trotted off to jail in prison jammies for his disgusting coverup of that Sandusky ba$tard.

And, in a morbid way, JoePa’s death will add to the coverup, because we’ll not know what the head coach covered up and why he covered it up.

Oh well.


114 posted on 01/22/2012 11:33:50 AM PST by laweeks
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To: Bryanw92
University has its own police department. Any crime on PSU's campus is handled by PSU police. Since Sandusky no longer reported to Paterno, and Paterno was not an eye witness, he did the best he could by reporting to PSU authorities.

The grand jury indicted the right people, although they may get off because of McQueary's multiple stories.

115 posted on 01/22/2012 11:34:33 AM PST by Neverforget01 (Beating Romney is so easy McCain did it.)
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To: shadeaud

Why didn’t Penn State just ask him to retire rather than fire him. His life was his family which Penn State was a major part of. Bless you Papa Joe

The arrogant pos dictated to the school that he was retiring after the season. The board did the the right thing in firing him. Too bad he couldn’t do some time with Sandusky


116 posted on 01/22/2012 11:35:06 AM PST by Figment
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Remember before he was terminated, that Joe had announced he would retire after the season.

Yeah, I remember that. I said at the time it was the ultimate arrogance and he needed to be fired. Glad the board did the right thing. Sad that he couldn’t have died in jail


117 posted on 01/22/2012 11:39:55 AM PST by Figment
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To: dead
What would Paterno benefit from covering up for an ex coach who was molesting children?

He reported what he heard from an assistant coach to University authorities who should have done something. Paterno, short of being a vigilante and killing the guy himself, had no authority to do anything , except coach a college football team.

118 posted on 01/22/2012 11:40:31 AM PST by Neverforget01 (Beating Romney is so easy McCain did it.)
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To: Tuxedo

No offense, Freepers, but I did wish to see JoePa trotted off to jail in prison jammies for his disgusting coverup of that Sandusky ba$tard.

And, in a morbid way, JoePa’s death will add to the coverup, because we’ll not know what the head coach covered up and why he covered it up.

Oh well.


119 posted on 01/22/2012 11:42:33 AM PST by laweeks
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To: Leep

Mr Paterno probably engaged in it himself


120 posted on 01/22/2012 11:43:37 AM PST by Figment
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To: Perdogg

Well, I have to imagine that the stress he was under with this public scandal was not doing his health very much good. It’s a shame that this will always be associated with his legacy (you reap what you sow, but it’s a shame nonetheless).

RIP


121 posted on 01/22/2012 11:45:32 AM PST by CougarGA7 ("History is politics projected into the past" - Michael Pokrovski)
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To: Racer1

The attitude of idolatry comes easy to some and blinds them to evil. This pos knew what was going on and did not one damned thing to stop it. I hope his time in hell is warm


122 posted on 01/22/2012 11:46:57 AM PST by Figment
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To: Leep

as Mr Paterno is not law enforcement.

Mr Paterno wasn’t much of a man or this would have stopped as soon as he was informed.


123 posted on 01/22/2012 11:50:06 AM PST by Figment
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To: Perdogg

God bless his soul. Bless and protect his family.


124 posted on 01/22/2012 11:50:19 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Neverforget01
He should have reported it to the police.

He should have fired McQueary for letting a child molestor continue his rape and escape with the victim.

He could have made some effort to find out if the victim was even still alive after being dragged away from the crime scene by the rapist.

He could have demanded that Sandusky be banned from all Penn State events, rather than seated on the dais with his boy victims, or in the president's box for football games.

He could have followed up with police to find out what their investigation revealed.

He could have shared the information he knew with the parents of every child he saw with Sandusky.

There are thousands of things he could have done, rather than tell his boss, witness the squashing of the story and do nothing.

Would you have done more? Would you have expected people you personally know and respect to do more? I would.

125 posted on 01/22/2012 11:51:36 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Figment
The attitude of idolatry comes easy to some and blinds them to evil

The desire to bring down good people comes easy to some and blinds them without knowing the facts.

126 posted on 01/22/2012 11:51:36 AM PST by Neverforget01 (Beating Romney is so easy McCain did it.)
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To: FreeReign; twigs

‘He shouldn’t have gone to the local police with only a hear-say story.’

He should have drove the witness down to the police station, personally. Save that move, have the eye witness contact the police.


127 posted on 01/22/2012 11:51:56 AM PST by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

Portraying Paterno (i.e. God Incarnate on that campus) as essentially powerless when it comes to his staff is not accurate, I think. From what I heard he could have called for Sandy’s public execution on the 50 yard line, and it would have been carried out in minutes.

JoPa was a gutless jerk. If that’s brought to my attention, either me or Sandusky is going to get an asswhipping. The gutless one brushed it aside for his own ego. Good riddance JoPa


128 posted on 01/22/2012 11:55:38 AM PST by Figment
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To: dead
You do know that McQueary did not explain the details of what he "saw"? He "heard" things. You do know McQueary has told multiple stories? Should Paterno destroy a person based on McQueary's statement or should he turn it over to authorities? I would have done the same.

He was a great football coach, not a police detective. Should he have known how to conduct a police investigation? PSU police have jurisdiction. Paterno turned it over to the AD and the man in charge of PSU police. He could have told McQueary to say nothing; that would have been a cover-up.

129 posted on 01/22/2012 11:59:38 AM PST by Neverforget01 (Beating Romney is so easy McCain did it.)
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To: Figment
The gutless one brushed it aside for his own ego

See, that makes no sense. How is Paterno's ego helped by covering up for a guy who hadn't coached in 4 years? How does reporting it to PSU authorities cover up anything? Those that covered up were indicted.

130 posted on 01/22/2012 12:04:06 PM PST by Neverforget01 (Beating Romney is so easy McCain did it.)
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To: Neverforget01
You really would have acted as Paterno acted in the face of that sort of information?

Wow. I'm shocked that you would admit that.

131 posted on 01/22/2012 12:04:16 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Neverforget01
He helped evil to thrive by being indifferent. Meh. I will studiously avoid all those who will talk about his greatness today. Coverups to protect an institution were not ok for the Catholic church but get to the men's institution of all holiness and a man who was simply good at his job, and suddenly he did everything right.

I would add to the above "deliberately indifferent". And indifferent to keep Penn State out of the news, more than likely.

Meh. Here's hoping the media can finally shut up about him before tomorrow.

132 posted on 01/22/2012 12:09:48 PM PST by MarMema (freedom for Amir)
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To: dead
You really would have acted as Paterno acted in the face of that sort of information?

Yes, I am in the habit of following the rules. He followed university rules. I am not a police officer. I too would have taken the witness to those in charge, assuming those in charge would do their jobs.

Since McQueary has told multiple versions, who knows what the truth is? I am afraid Sandusky will walk, just like Michael Jackson because of no credible witnesses. We'll see.

134 posted on 01/22/2012 12:11:44 PM PST by Neverforget01 (Beating Romney is so easy McCain did it.)
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To: shadeaud
PSU high-ups: You're fired.

Joe: Fire me, will ya? A terminally ill man? Just give me a month, and I'll get the last laugh on all of you.

RIP Coach.
135 posted on 01/22/2012 12:17:07 PM PST by Category Four (Joy, Fun, the Joke Proper, and Flippancy ... Flippancy is the best of all.)
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To: Perdogg

May he rest in peace. Prayers for his family.


136 posted on 01/22/2012 12:18:58 PM PST by ContraryMary (Obama = Carter redux)
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To: Neverforget01
Yes, I am in the habit of following the rules. He followed university rules.

I'm sure your rule-following consistency would be a great comfort to the kid with the bleeding ass and his parents.

If he's ever found alive.

137 posted on 01/22/2012 12:18:58 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: BwanaNdege; Ronald_Magnus; twigs; sandiego; bolobaby; napscoordinator; AU72; Leep; Racer1; ...
“I guess they wanted to make their political statement.”

A statement like this?

Child molestation is detestable & intolerable. Anyone who turns a blind eye toward it is at least partly responsible.

I have one question for all the sanctimonious Paterno defenders on this board: What if it was YOUR son in that locker room?

138 posted on 01/22/2012 12:22:31 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: dead
You mean the kid Paterno never saw? Should he be a police investigator or was it Shultz’s job to make sure an investigation took place? There is a reason Paterno didn't get charged. He did not see anything and reported it to those he was supposed to. He had NO authority over the ex coach and could have done harm to any investigation by inserting himself. I don't know why this is so hard for folks to understand; but I'm done.
139 posted on 01/22/2012 12:27:45 PM PST by Neverforget01 (Beating Romney is so easy McCain did it.)
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To: tjd1454
>What if it was YOUR son in that locker room?



Talk about sanctimonious. This is the type of argument liberals use when they can no longer discuss facts.

140 posted on 01/22/2012 12:29:13 PM PST by Perdogg
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To: Neverforget01
You mean the kid Paterno never saw?

Yes! That's exactly the kid I'm talking about.

The kid you, Paterno, and McQueary seem to be completely unconcerned about. The kid that left Paterno's lockerroom with the man who raped him.

The kid that nobody knows whatever became of him. The kid that nobody from Penn State, including Paterno, made any effort to determine if he's alive and getting the help he needs.

That's the kid I'm referring to.

141 posted on 01/22/2012 12:32:35 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Ronald_Magnus

For Mr. Paterno prestige and attention meant everything; maybe he just couldn’t live without the goodwill of the people of PA.


142 posted on 01/22/2012 12:32:40 PM PST by Theodore R. (I'll still vote for the Right Rick --Santorum-- if he is on the April 3 ballot.)
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To: Neverforget01
You mean the kid Paterno never saw? Should he be a police investigator or was it Shultz’s job to make sure an investigation took place? There is a reason Paterno didn't get charged. He did not see anything and reported it to those he was supposed to... I don't know why this is so hard for folks to understand

Do you really not see why it is so "hard for folks to understand" why someone in Paterno's position and authority didn't follow up? Let me put my question in a slightly different way: What if it was Paterno's own son in that locker room - do you imagine for a nanosecond that he would have simply passed it on and washed his hands of the matter - because he didn't "see anything"?

Of course not. He would have seen to it that the matter was thoroughly investigated and that Sandusky was fired and duly charged.

143 posted on 01/22/2012 12:36:21 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: kabar
Once again, you sound like a very reasonable person; however, the one thing that is indeed black or white is the harming of innocents who cannot defend themselves (and harming them in a particularly heinous manner that can scar some for life). For me, the nuance of JoePa's relationship with Sandusky does not excuse him one whit.

And please remember: JoePa had a very long history of burying and forgiving his football players' bad behaviors over the years (not unlike most other D-1 football coaches)--everything from indiscretions and poor judgments to felonies. He treated this like one of his players was caught shoplifting or got into a bar fight. For me, that is unforgivable.

144 posted on 01/22/2012 12:36:48 PM PST by Pharmboy (She turned me into a Newt...)
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To: Perdogg
I invite you to search your heart and answer the question. What would you have expected Paterno to do if it was YOUR son?

The Scriptures say: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." That is the maxim that Paterno should have followed.

145 posted on 01/22/2012 12:39:50 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: tjd1454
Paterno couldn't fire Sandusky ; he hadn't worked for him in four years.

Paterno's position was head football coach, not head detective. He took the story his assistant coach told him to those who were responsible and were indicted after a three year investigation.

146 posted on 01/22/2012 12:50:42 PM PST by Neverforget01 (Beating Romney is so easy McCain did it.)
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To: teenyelliott

Thank you for being understanding about it. It’s just something I feel almost militant about. This can’t be tolerated in a civil society.


147 posted on 01/22/2012 12:56:23 PM PST by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: momtothree

Absolutely...


148 posted on 01/22/2012 12:56:42 PM PST by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: shadeaud

I believe they did and he said no, he would step down at the end of the season - which was not good enough.


149 posted on 01/22/2012 1:04:17 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: teenyelliott

Since the scandal, several college coaches (active and retired) have expressed amazement that other members of the Penn State staff were unaware of Sandusky’s proclivities. Some have opined that it would be almost impossible for his perversion to remain a secret for so long, given the hours that a coaching staff spends together, and the long tenure of many of the assistants at Penn State.

It’s also rather curious that Sandusky suddenly retired at the height of his career, and still had full access to the Penn State football complex. His departure smacks of someone who had the university (and Joe Paterno) over a barrel and it probably marks the start of the cover-up that would go on for more than a decade. Everyone was afraid of tarnishing the reputation of Paterno and the Penn State football “brand,” so they let a child molester run amok for another ten years.

One final thought: it’s interesting to see how the sports establishment is now glossing over the scandal with Paterno’s passing. On ESPN radio this morning, ABC/ESPN sportscaster Brent Musberger said the good that JoePa did “far outweighed” his “temporary lapse in judgment with an assistant.” Those were his exact words. A lot of young men around State College, PA had their lives destroyed because of that lapse, and that is now a central part of the Paterno legacy.


150 posted on 01/22/2012 1:09:56 PM PST by ExNewsExSpook (uoted)
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