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Live Thread - NBC News/Tampa Bay Times GOP debate tonight on NBC
.2012presidentialelectionnews.com ^ | 1/23/12 | nate

Posted on 01/23/2012 2:38:27 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009

All four remaining GOP candidates have been confirmed for tonight's debate sponsored by NBC News, the Tampa Bay Times, The National Journal and the Florida Council of 100. The debate will take place at the University of South Florida in Tampa. This will be the first of 2 debates this week focusing on the Florida GOP primary on Tuesday, January 31st. Note the air times on the east and west coast.

Television Air Time: Monday, January 23rd at 9pm ET, 8pm CT and 9pm PT on NBC

Live Streams: (airing 9pm ET) NBCPolitics.com, National Journal, and TampaBay.com

Participants: Gingrich, Romney, Santorum, Paul

(Excerpt) Read more at 2012presidentialelectionnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; anotherdebate; bitterromney; debate; fl2012; flaprimarydebate; gopdebate; liarromney; liveflaprimarydebate; livegopdebate; mittcommie; nastyromney; newt; pettyromney; romney; romneyinhiding; romneyversion5; rupaulisfinished; secretiveromney; snarlyromney; tampa
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To: Marcella

Since when is Free Republic a place where longtime CONSERVATIVE members are censored because they disagree in a PRIMARY CONTEST?

When the GOP nominates their man, he will get my support.

Until then, I am entitled to my opinion of Newt Gingrich.


1,401 posted on 01/23/2012 8:05:12 PM PST by Palladin (Will it be a Mitt/Newt ticket?)
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To: LibsRJerks

I believe the phrase you are reaching for is “turkey waddle” ;-)


1,402 posted on 01/23/2012 8:05:12 PM PST by MagUSNRET
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To: glock rocks

LOL! Incredible thick, isn’t it?

But they did miss the ears...


1,403 posted on 01/23/2012 8:05:19 PM PST by Ladysmith (The evil that's happening in this country is the cancer of socialism...It kills the human spirit.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Is NBC panelist saying Newt won, the kiss of death? If NBC is rooting for one of the candidates, it must be because they think Obama would have an easier time. No way are they rooting for anyone they think can beat Obama.


1,404 posted on 01/23/2012 8:05:19 PM PST by gswilder
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To: glock rocks
Brian Williams looked so peaceful and natural tonight. Almost lifelike.

David Gregory looked semi-human in a simian manner. His mouth really is chimp-like. As for his brain, perhaps in a few more decades, it will start the development process.

Ah well, it's NBC: Nothing But Commies.

1,405 posted on 01/23/2012 8:06:10 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Palladin

STFU, you ignorant fool.


1,406 posted on 01/23/2012 8:06:24 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Maxine, I'll see you there. I'm not changing my ways.)
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To: altura
KInda sounded like a rich person... oh, wait...

yeah, that. lol

1,407 posted on 01/23/2012 8:06:31 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball
Yeah...that’s what I’m hearing too. Andrea Mitchell and CHuck Todd are basically saying Newt is a brilliant tactician! I’m very suspicious......

There is a sizable contingent on the left who believe Newt will be the easiest for Obama to beat. That's not what many here think, but some of these same MSM operatives helped drive Newt from the Congress before and they think they can discredit him again. They'll lay low until the Republican primary winner is decided, then...

1,408 posted on 01/23/2012 8:06:38 PM PST by Will88
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To: Yankee
Who are these people and what have they done with the real NBC staff?

I think Ann Coulter and Andrea Mitchell switched souls or something. Freaky.

1,409 posted on 01/23/2012 8:06:51 PM PST by kevao
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To: kristinn

DUI is hardly a reason to kill yourself.


1,410 posted on 01/23/2012 8:07:00 PM PST by reaganaut (If Romney is a conservative then I'm the frickin Angel Moroni.)
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To: dragnet2

No one is going to see nor remember Mitt’s flailing on Newt. They will however hear and remember Newt’s grasp of language, government and his ability to communicate complex ideas in simple terms Americans can understand.

That is why Newt will win.


1,411 posted on 01/23/2012 8:07:21 PM PST by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: kevao

He did miss it. Newt said there were 86 languages in Miami Dade alone. He said there could be over 800 eventually and the USA needs to unify itself and have english as the official language. TYPICAL anti Newt spinmeister


1,412 posted on 01/23/2012 8:07:21 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: txhurl
If you’re going to have a live debate with a duct-taped audience, then don’t have an audience.

I sick of watching conservatives being questioned and manipulated by liberal 'moderators'. Democrats would NEVER allow Hannity and Rush to ask them questions for two hours.

Our side needs to wake up and smell the coffee...

1,413 posted on 01/23/2012 8:07:33 PM PST by GOPJ (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: NKP_Vet

Yeah...that’s what I’m hearing too. Andrea Mitchell and CHuck Todd are basically saying Newt is a brilliant tactician! I’m very suspicious......

Hank


1,414 posted on 01/23/2012 8:07:52 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away.)
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To: reaganaut

Yes, I understand and I followed the post links back up thread, because I was so stunned to have never heard such a thing, and kind of panicked to hear it at all, and nervous to have it brought up on FR. But I am antenna sensitive this election cycle! LOL!


1,415 posted on 01/23/2012 8:08:04 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. NEWT 2012 / Rick Bachmann=Tool of the RINO/Romney backers)
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To: cookcounty
Wow, and now we also find out Romney invested heavily in Fannie/Freddie

That could turn a lot of votes.

1,416 posted on 01/23/2012 8:08:12 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: little jeremiah

Newt pointed out that there are enormous problems dealing with entrenched bureaucracies and elites that are weighted against doing what is right. The ones in charge would rather preside over the wreckage than give up their positions of power. That’s why he wants the people to vote with him rather than for him because people may think they can vote for him and he can solve it. This needs the people’s support to get us back on track and it is very humbling to see that we need to get our country back on track.


1,417 posted on 01/23/2012 8:08:30 PM PST by untwist
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To: NKP_Vet
MSNBC panels saying Newt basically won. Stayed presidential looking, while Romney ranted and raved.

WOW!! Actually giving a fair appraisal. And they mentioned that Romney is getting investment income NOW from both Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae!

1,418 posted on 01/23/2012 8:09:10 PM PST by CedarDave (Donna Brazile: "... we we believe that the weakest candidate ... [is] Mitt Romney.")
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To: RitaOK

I can’t think of any major answers tonight that will change anyone’s mind about who to vote for. In fact, I don’t think that much good information was conveyed about any of the candidates at all. I don’t believe any of the candidates stood out as being exceptionally good or bad.

Unlike last week’s debates, this one will be a complete non-event, I predict.


1,419 posted on 01/23/2012 8:09:28 PM PST by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: Palladin

well, bye.


1,420 posted on 01/23/2012 8:09:28 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is not just brewing, rebellion is here!!)
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To: beaversmom

Actually the analysis by NBC has been rather favorable to Newt I think. Not so much for Romney.


1,421 posted on 01/23/2012 8:09:50 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Irish Eyes
If you thought that the debate was bad, listen to the spin of the commentators afterwards.

Who's that smarmy she-RAT that looks like a lizard?

1,422 posted on 01/23/2012 8:09:50 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: LibsRJerks

If it sticks out perpendicular from her shoulders its called a head! Yep pretty sure its a head, it has a nose on it.


1,423 posted on 01/23/2012 8:09:50 PM PST by Reily
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To: ez

My favorite comment on FR tonight was whoever called Ron Paul “Bat-shit Entertaining”. LOL!!


1,424 posted on 01/23/2012 8:09:57 PM PST by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: jwalsh07

Oh, I’m aware he has flaws. I wanted Sarah Palin and now I’ve got to choose who is the least flawed that can beat Obama. It’s a hell of a choice to have to make when my candidate is sitting out.


1,425 posted on 01/23/2012 8:09:57 PM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: Fawn
So far, Mitt is winning this debate and Santorum is making a big impression too. Newt needs to clear up fannie mac big time...

From what i saw (only watched bits and pieces) i agree and think Santorum could end up gaining the most, although i don't think it'll be enough to seriously threaten either Mitt or Gingrich just yet. If he can follow it up with another good debate next time, then who knows, especially if Gingrich and Mitt keep pounding away at each other, allowing Santorum to take the high road again. As for Mitt, i don't think he cared so much about winning the debate as he did in just stopping the Newt momentum, which i think he may well have done in the opening minutes alone.

Newt needs to respond quickly and provide a much stronger answer to the peddling influence charge. His responses to Romney saying that (paraphrasing) "everyone knows what you're doing and America won't fall for it" or "this is the same kind of stuff you pulled with McCain, and it didn't work then and it won't work now" came off sounding like empty rhetoric since he didn't follow up with anything particularly convincing as far i'm concerned.

1,426 posted on 01/23/2012 8:10:12 PM PST by Humbug (the media rule the world and they know it....they are our true foe, not the puppet in the WH)
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To: beaversmom

Not sure but think it was towards the end when they were each asked to speak about conservatism. Newt spoke of working for Goldwater, Reagan and just bounced off his record and his belief in smaller govt and his record as Speaker...he even cited something he accomplished that had not been done since 1928?


1,427 posted on 01/23/2012 8:10:45 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Palladin; katiedidit1

>>> Newt is a big gasbag faux intellectual. <<<<

Gee, are you a masochist or what? Again??? LOL!


1,428 posted on 01/23/2012 8:10:45 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. NEWT 2012 / Rick Bachmann=Tool of the RINO/Romney backers)
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1,429 posted on 01/23/2012 8:11:05 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: ez

Not a bad scorecard.

I give Newt the A,
Santorum a B+
Paul a B
Romney a B-

No big fireworks or big scores tonight. The last two debates were far more interesting.


1,430 posted on 01/23/2012 8:11:05 PM PST by Girlene
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To: CynicalBear

Is it just me, or would Rick Perry make an outstanding Vice President?


1,431 posted on 01/23/2012 8:11:42 PM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

Hank it is good cop, bad cop, don’t you know.

Broadcast NBC is the good cop.

PMSNBC be the bad cop.

Chwissie Mathews and Lwarry O’Donnell are trashing everyone, Chwissie said they were all zeroes.


1,432 posted on 01/23/2012 8:11:42 PM PST by Biblebelter
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To: Jim Robinson

Hahaha, I love it when you do that.


1,433 posted on 01/23/2012 8:11:57 PM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: katiedidit1; Palladin
EARMARKS are good! What is BAD is voting FOR spending (FOR appropriations bills). If congress votes against appropriating the money (against spending), then nothing gets spent. If a congressman/senator puts in earmarks, and the appropriations bill is approved (approve to spend more money), all the congressmen/senators are doing is KEEPING OBAMA, in this case, from getting ALL THE MONEY to spend as he sees fit, on projects on which he decides, and with no accountability or transparency.
1,434 posted on 01/23/2012 8:12:05 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: gswilder

That was my first thought also


1,435 posted on 01/23/2012 8:12:13 PM PST by uncbob
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To: RitaOK

I think we are all sensitive this cycle.


1,436 posted on 01/23/2012 8:12:13 PM PST by reaganaut (If Romney is a conservative then I'm the frickin Angel Moroni.)
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To: All

Did anyone notice at the very end before they cut to Gregory Head that Newt and Uncle Paul shook hands in a very friendly manner while Mitt was turned the other way and joked with Ricky?


1,437 posted on 01/23/2012 8:12:29 PM PST by Miss Didi ("After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: World'sGoneInsane

That answer by Newt was probably the best of the evening. That WILL be the difficulty of the future president.

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I had to step out of the TV room. PLEASE give me a summary....THANKS.


1,438 posted on 01/23/2012 8:12:29 PM PST by JulieRNR21 (*OMG ...means Obama Must Go in 2012!)
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To: Palladin
"Since when is Free Republic a place where longtime CONSERVATIVE members are censored because they disagree in a PRIMARY CONTEST? When the GOP nominates their man, he will get my support. Until then, I am entitled to my opinion of Newt Gingrich."

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Haha, famous last words zotface!

1,439 posted on 01/23/2012 8:12:37 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Politics is fake. I think it's owned by Vince Mcmahon)
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To: untwist

You said it better than I did. I thought it was a tremendous statement.


1,440 posted on 01/23/2012 8:12:36 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather (It's a Newtiful Day today!)
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To: reaganaut

Actually, it has been the reason for others, also.


1,441 posted on 01/23/2012 8:13:00 PM PST by kristinn (Dump the Chump in 2012)
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To: Palladin; 50mm; TheOldLady; darkwing104

IATZ.


1,442 posted on 01/23/2012 8:13:06 PM PST by reaganaut (If Romney is a conservative then I'm the frickin Angel Moroni.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks Jim!
We were all gettin mighty tired of that guy.


1,443 posted on 01/23/2012 8:13:21 PM PST by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: RitaOK

LOL! Rita, noticed your tag on let her rip...watch it...LOL shhhhhhhhhhhh


1,444 posted on 01/23/2012 8:13:25 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: LibsRJerks

>>> “Egads, look at Andrea Mitchell’s neck.
Is there a name for that?” <<<

I resemble that remark. So, WATCH it! :)


1,445 posted on 01/23/2012 8:13:33 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. NEWT 2012 / Rick Bachmann=Tool of the RINO/Romney backers)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball
Yeah...that’s what I’m hearing too. Andrea Mitchell and CHuck Todd are basically saying Newt is a brilliant tactician! I’m very suspicious......

Don't be suspicious. You have to remember who these NBC jerks are - they think Obama is their Messiah, flawless, and a cinch to win. They think they can still influence the sheep. An elitist never thinks they have shortcomings and that everyone else will marvel at their intellect. In their world, Obama could never lose a debate as long as THEY say Obama won. They are going to be proven wrong. To them, 2010 never happened. Only problem is, Obama is not Bill Clinton.... Clinton for all his faults was a master politician. Obama will never possess those skills. And let's not forget about that $5 gas this summer...

1,446 posted on 01/23/2012 8:13:47 PM PST by Tuxedo (Drink Tea - not Kool-Aid. Gingrich 2012.)
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To: Girlene

Recent article compared Newt to Andrew Jackson, who bucked the establishment and took his plain speaking directly to the people. Newt is doing just that in these primaries.

Screw the pundits, elites and those who think they are in control. Go Newt!


1,447 posted on 01/23/2012 8:13:47 PM PST by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: kevao

“86 spoken in Chicago and over 200 throughout the entire USA -”

Actually, he said 86 in Miami, and 200 in Chicago....


1,448 posted on 01/23/2012 8:13:47 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: unixfox

1,449 posted on 01/23/2012 8:14:11 PM PST by Bikkuri
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To: advance_copy

He’d be a very effective Texas governor!


1,450 posted on 01/23/2012 8:14:14 PM PST by glock rocks (I didn't leave the Republican party, they left me.)
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