Live Thread - NBC News/Tampa Bay Times GOP debate tonight on NBC

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[TexasFreeper2009]

All four remaining GOP candidates have been confirmed for tonight's debate sponsored by NBC News, the Tampa Bay Times, The National Journal and the Florida Council of 100. The debate will take place at the University of South Florida in Tampa. This will be the first of 2 debates this week focusing on the Florida GOP primary on Tuesday, January 31st. Note the air times on the east and west coast.

Television Air Time: Monday, January 23rd at 9pm ET, 8pm CT and 9pm PT on NBC

Live Streams: (airing 9pm ET) NBCPolitics.com, National Journal, and TampaBay.com

Participants: Gingrich, Romney, Santorum, Paul

[ConservativeInPA]

You, sir, are succinct. Excellent reply. I think I was taking the drinking game too seriously.

[af_vet_rr]

Actually the analysis by NBC has been rather favorable to Newt I think. Not so much for Romney.

Either they are trying to make this race last, or because Newt's the man of the moment and most likely the long haul. After what ABC did to Newt, he's snubbing them. NBC is tanking hard in the rankings and can't afford to lose access to Newt.

[logitech]

WOW! 1500 Hits. I was gonna ask if anyone else noticed the two vampires behind Brian Williams? Nevermind.

[BobL]

“Perry was buried here at FR because he didn’t oppose his state’s giving in-state tuition for illegals...And Here Gingrich seems to support some part of the federal dream act, which Perry opposed. “

I don’t remember Gingrich calling people that disagreed with that position ‘heartless’ - which is EXACTLY the contempt that Perry has always had towards conservatives that disagree with him. That’s more what killed Perry, otherwise you’re right, Santorum would be in the running.

[uncbob]

Problem is Romney was up in the early voting ( I think it was around 12% of the voters )by those who didn’t see the first debate so Newt starts out behind

[glock rocks]

Yep. Chris is a three syllable name in many parts of the south :o)

[untwist]

It really is a heavy situation and I view Newt’s statement as a call out to Conservatives in general and the Tea Party specifically. The moderates are killing us. We need Tea Party conservatives. We need a president who has the guts of Wisconsin governor Scott Walker. Walker can’t do it alone. He will need a fighting army to defeat the wild union recall effort. I think this is the track Newt is on.

[llandres]

“Her loaded question on “the threat of an oil spill” was shot down by Santorum. Her question regarding government documents and campaigning is just as stupid.”

And - what about the other guy’s question about the Everglades???

Sheesh - liberals are so obvious.

[greeneyes]

I think Newt postitioned himself well with people over 65, the cuban, and hispanic communities.

[j.argese]

The Establishment may want warfare but I’m thinking they won’t once it starts and sure as Hell won’t when it’s finished.
The American people do not want a second term for nObama.
The RINOs are going to look exactly like the guys who laid them off and put them out of their houses.
Result, the RINOs will be extinct ...

[nicmarlo]

Newt took the stark comparison of the state killing an innocent citizen versus the appeals granted a condemned murderer.

You say Jeb didn't "wimp out"; he began boldly to defend and promptly caved to Judge Greer, George Felos, and Michael Schiavo.

Exactly! And Newt should have gone further by stating that Terri Schiavo DID NOT give permission to off herself, IN WRITING, if in a vegetative state; that was hearsay lies promulgated by the very person who would benefit from her murder: Michael Schiavo. Therefore, absent consent, the default position should have been LIFE, as guaranteed under the Constitution.

[exit82]

Thanks, I had forgotten Palladin’s card on the TV show!

[Will88]

I just don’t become a big fan or supporter of very many individual politicians, but look at where they stand on the issues. Wanted Palin to enter, then hoped Cain would follow through on his surge, but...

Now I see problems with all those left, but the most important thing is to get Obama out of the WH. Am mostly an observer now and will support the eventual nominee. But, yes, there does seem to be a lot of shifting emphasis on the illegal immigration issue and the various proposals.

[50mm]

Have Bile Will Spew reads the card of a trollman.
A troll without honor in a FReeper land.

His forked tongue for hire head's the breaking wind.
A spewer of nonsense is the troll called Palladin.

Palladin, Palladin
Where did you go?
Palladin, Palladin,
ZOTted doncha know!

To be added or removed from the Viking Kitty/ZOT Ping List, FReepmail Darkwing104 or 50mm.

[WalterSkinner]

..NBC's top brass probably carefully observed how Newt played off of and inspired the audience in SC and were dedicated to having a hall with a little more life than a morgue--It was bizarre

Also there seemed to be an effort to rehabilitate Romney, who looks weak and desperate. Santorum had a good night because he backed away from the whining--somebody talked to him

Newt didn't hit any grand slams tonight but he got several hits...

[ConservativeInPA]

Thank you very much. He made my blood boil. Now let’s figure out a way to ZOT Barry.

[glock rocks]

I view Newt’s statement as a call out to Conservatives in general and the Tea Party specifically.

I got the same impression.

[LibsRJerks]

Oh, I noticed them. Vampires — good description! Very Big Brother liberal looking... weirdness.

[Girlene]

I missed it. What was it?

Newt described the difficulties he saw in anyone who became president. I'm TOTALLY paraphrasing here - basically talked about all the entrenched interests that make it difficult to ever make real change in govt. Talked about if he was elected pres. he would need the support of us. This was not a top down fix it approach - we'd be in it together.

[RitaOK]

>>> The ones in charge would rather preside over the wreckage than give up their positions of power. <<<

You know, untwist, if the Establishment cuts the legs out from under Newt, by dropping Romney (with whom I believe they are DONE) and they go and bring in Jeb, or Daniels, there will be open warfare in the Republican Party.

What you said above “” is going to have to be said by Newt in EXACTLY the same way. Voters need to know what he is up against because it is also what WE are up against. Obama benefits from disarray and skates..... Newt is going to have to say it eventually, I believe.