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Newt Gingrich's Space Speech -- Will it Be Workable as Well as Visionary?
Yahoo News ^ | Jan 23 2012 | Mark Whittington

Posted on 01/23/2012 2:41:38 PM PST by JerseyanExile

According to the Space Politics blog, Newt Gingrich plans to make a space policy speech on Florida's space coast probably Wednesday. He said it would be "in the John F. Kennedy tradition rather than the current bureaucracy."

Gingrich has been a fierce critic of what he calls the NASA bureaucracy, according to Fox News, and an advocate for outside-the-box thinking like using prize competitions, according to Space Politics. It has been rare for candidates running for president to make speeches wholly devoted to space issues. Considering that Gingrich is now the front runner for the Republic nomination, this could be a history changer.

It will be interesting to see if Gingrich can lay out a compelling vision for America in space that not only incorporates some of the more interesting ideas such as space prizes and leveraging the commercial sector (in the right way) but which can be bought in by the various political players that control space policy. As a former speaker of the House, Gingrich has to be keenly aware of what it will take to propose and execute a change of direction and get Congress to go along.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: gingrich; gingrich2012; nasa; space

1 posted on 01/23/2012 2:41:48 PM PST by JerseyanExile
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To: JerseyanExile

Very smart move on Newt’s part IMO. I’m thrilled someone is seriously talking about this.


2 posted on 01/23/2012 2:43:30 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: JerseyanExile

He’s trying to reach out to the Nerds for Cain. I’d like to see someone talking about a means of enabling regular inter-continental space travel.


3 posted on 01/23/2012 2:44:53 PM PST by Thane_Banquo
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To: Utmost Certainty

Newt is very wise to familiarize himself with local issues that primary voters care about. The others better catch on soon...


4 posted on 01/23/2012 2:45:59 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: JerseyanExile
Like it or not, the space program produces result in new knowledge...Do you think those satellites got up there through an automobile program??

We've always been No. 1. No. 2 is unbecoming. We've worked too hard.

5 posted on 01/23/2012 2:47:34 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: JerseyanExile

Throw out the outer space and moon treaties and let the private sector lay a legal claim on any natural body in space a man can put feet on.


6 posted on 01/23/2012 2:48:45 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Utmost Certainty

Me too! That’s what I like about Newt - he has ideas, something we haven’t seen here in the US since about forever. Not retreads but real, serious new ideas.

His plan is going to be very important to Florida, too, since we have (well, had) the space industry for the East Coast here.


7 posted on 01/23/2012 2:49:01 PM PST by livius
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To: JerseyanExile

One average sized, Platinum-rich metal bearing asteroid (and there exist a great many) equal the annual Global Product. In other words, these asteroids are worth trillions of dollars apiece.

It is possible to mine asteroids and, with our present technology, smelt, process the metal and manufacure in the zero gravity vacuum of space.

We can do it.

It will spur a whole new industrial revolution, one that isn’t just global but that will eventually spread out solar system wide.


8 posted on 01/23/2012 2:49:33 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Utmost Certainty
to all a

Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Conservatia

with apologies to Sir Isaac

9 posted on 01/23/2012 2:52:22 PM PST by Reily
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To: Sacajaweau

Agreed, NASA needs to pick up the banner of Louis and Clark. Be pathfinders, explorers, and prospectors blazing a trail for industry to follow.

As far as liberals are concerned. If they really cared about the planet they should demand an explosive expansion of space exploration. Once full scale mining of mineral wealth in space starts, mining here on earth will all but end. A lot of manufacturing could go to space as well.


10 posted on 01/23/2012 2:54:23 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: SatinDoll

Interesting!


11 posted on 01/23/2012 2:54:29 PM PST by livius
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To: Utmost Certainty

to all a

Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Conservatia

with apologies to Sir Isaac


12 posted on 01/23/2012 2:54:57 PM PST by Reily
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To: JerseyanExile
No more muslim outreach?

Yeehah!

13 posted on 01/23/2012 2:56:03 PM PST by Malone LaVeigh
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To: JerseyanExile

It worked for Kennedy...

Big ideas, big vision for America. A future of opportunity.

Meanwhile, Willard whines about teivial things that happened in the previous century.


14 posted on 01/23/2012 2:58:40 PM PST by bigbob
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To: SatinDoll

How fantastic it would be to witness this kind of thing happening. Talk about a ‘if they can do that, I can do anything moment’. It would lift America to a whole new level and should be our destiny.


15 posted on 01/23/2012 2:58:51 PM PST by Track9 (The revolution IS brewing..)
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To: SatinDoll

Wow, just started reading about this. So cool!

http://io9.com/5590330/asteroid-mining-will-give-us-all-the-platinum-well-ever-need-and-maybe-start-a-new-space-age


16 posted on 01/23/2012 3:00:04 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: JerseyanExile

Boldly go Newt!


17 posted on 01/23/2012 3:01:36 PM PST by BigCinBigD
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To: JerseyanExile
When Obama campaigned here during his primary run, he promised to the people of the Space Coast that he would protect the exploration of space and promote job growth. Now, that area is in dire straits for high unemployment since Obama cut the space program drastically. Thank you, Obama. Newt understands those people were lied to and jobs have to come back in that region.
18 posted on 01/23/2012 3:08:23 PM PST by Christie at the beach
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To: JerseyanExile

The nations that lead on the frontiers, end up dictating the course of human history.

A robust space program for America is critical in what ever form it comes. It’s time America gets back to the moon and beyond.


19 posted on 01/23/2012 3:10:33 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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To: SatinDoll

A number of years ago the only place to make near perfect ball bearings was in space to overcome the role gravity plays in the manufacturing process. Not sure if that’s still true.


20 posted on 01/23/2012 3:13:46 PM PST by Portcall24
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To: SatinDoll

Good idea. Get the commercial side of space moving, and that will spur new science as well... a reverse of what we’ve had in the past.


21 posted on 01/23/2012 3:14:00 PM PST by StolarStorm
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To: JerseyanExile

Newt just might begin to leave Mittsy in the dust here. Mitt has one line, “This election is about the soul of America.” He says it a lot and it’s true enough. The thing is Newt says the same thing in a lot of different ways. . . when he confronts liberal MSM bias; when he goes after liberal court decisions; when he calls Obama the food stamp president. The hollowness of Mitt’s convictions is becoming evident. Mitt’s got no game; so specifics to connect with voters. Given the cynical politics being played right now and the economic malaise, Newt talking about the space program is a great idea. Reminds America of what we once were.


22 posted on 01/23/2012 3:14:32 PM PST by vekzen
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To: JerseyanExile

I was in multiple meetings last week with organizations that would love to have a President that had a vision for space. Of course, all of them had an aerospace interest...


23 posted on 01/23/2012 3:22:41 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: JerseyanExile

The other candidates will see to it respectively that there is government-subsidized healthcare in space, that there is no right to work for non-union astronauts, and that no spacecraft has a military payload.


24 posted on 01/23/2012 3:24:18 PM PST by aposiopetic
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To: JerseyanExile

What we need is a cheaper method of getting a load into orbit before we do anything else.


25 posted on 01/23/2012 3:24:40 PM PST by AnTiw1
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To: JerseyanExile

Very timely. This could be HUGE for Newt on the Space Coast. The national space program gave us thousands of jobs all over the Deep South. My parents worked in Louisiana during the 60’s on the rockets that sent us to the moon.

One of the saddest things my husband and I overheard this past weekend was a mom talking in line at the grocery. She said her son was on track to be an astronaut. Now, since our entire space shuttle program was essentially put out to pasture last year, he has learn to speak Russian, among all sorts of other new regulations. According to this lady, all future American manned space launches are planned to be out of Russia. Plus, all those former support jobs (not to mention tourist dollars, restaurants, etc) that WE used to do.

If Newt supports the Space Coast, Florida voters will support him.


26 posted on 01/23/2012 3:25:44 PM PST by Southern Magnolia
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To: SatinDoll

Well, they wouldn’t remain worth trillions if we started mining them - supply and demand and all that, the price would plummet if cheap platinum flooded the market. But it could still revolutionize many industries that now have cheap access to previously scarce raw materials.


27 posted on 01/23/2012 3:27:59 PM PST by JerseyanExile
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To: AnTiw1
What we need is a cheaper method of getting a load into orbit before we do anything else.

That is the Catch-22 of the industry right now. Completely new rocket tech is not being heavily funded. Old technology is preferred, since it has proven legacy. If things continue on the current path, the next "new" rocket engine will either be from technology that is 25 or 50 years old.

Also, with government funding, there are always portions of the work that have to go to certain areas to get funded.

28 posted on 01/23/2012 3:30:11 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: JerseyanExile
I'm glad that Newt is doing this. A bold dream that may take years to accomplish, rather than makeshift solutions for a diminished future.

The current administration reminds me of J.G. Ballard's haunting book of short stories, Memories of the Space Age.

29 posted on 01/23/2012 3:33:02 PM PST by oblomov
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To: AnTiw1

“What we need is a cheaper method of getting a load into orbit before we do anything else.”

http://www.stratolaunch.com/


30 posted on 01/23/2012 3:47:45 PM PST by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: kosciusko51

What about the EM rail idea...fail?


31 posted on 01/23/2012 3:56:15 PM PST by AnTiw1
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To: oblomov

Rats...the book isn’t available on Kindle. But I’ll read it - it sounds interesting.

Even though I don’t know what Newt’s proposal is yet, the mere suggestion is exciting. One of the problems with Bambi and the left is that they are trapped in the past...in the 1930s, which they regard as their glory days with FDR. That was more than 75 years ago.

Aside from the fact that FDR’s “solutions” didn’t work anyway (although there was some great WPA art and I appreciate the CCC trail shelters on the Appalachian Trail), it was a model that is way too antiquated for modern technological life. But the left is fundamentally retrograde and anti-progress.

If Obama has a portrait of Alinsky in the WH, as he is rumored to have, he’s merely showing how out of date and ignorant he is. Alinsky’s “solutions” weren’t where the future or even the present lie.


32 posted on 01/23/2012 4:00:56 PM PST by livius
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To: Utmost Certainty
"Very smart move on Newt’s part IMO. I’m thrilled someone is seriously talking about this."

Newt has been seriously "into space" for a LONG time. When he was in Congress, one of his telephone "kitchen cabinet" types was Jerry Pournelle. All you sci-fi fans undoubtedly know who JP is, but even you might not know that much of his writing and lobbying has been to boost practical, cheap access to space.

I highly recommend JP's online weblog (he dislikes the term 'blog, despite the fact that he probably invented the on-line personal commentary "thing" that became "blogging") He was certainly among the first to "blog".

http://jerrypournelle.com/jerrypournelle.c/chaosmanor/

33 posted on 01/23/2012 4:05:51 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

Haven’t read the presentation tailored perfectly for Florida appeal. Upon just hearing the premise being related to space, expect mockery since the US is broke, and space advances are such a long term project as to be irrelevant in a depression like atmosphere. Newt will ne ready, I know that!


34 posted on 01/23/2012 4:25:44 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. NEWT 2012 / Rick Bachmann=Tool of the RINO/Romney backers)
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To: JerseyanExile

facinating!


35 posted on 01/23/2012 4:27:58 PM PST by swamprebel (Where liberty dwells, there is my country.)
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To: SatinDoll
One average sized, Platinum-rich metal bearing asteroid (and there exist a great many) equal the annual Global Product. In other words, these asteroids are worth trillions of dollars apiece. It is possible to mine asteroids and, with our present technology, smelt, process the metal and manufacure in the zero gravity vacuum of space.

Just don't make any unscheduled detours.


36 posted on 01/23/2012 4:36:41 PM PST by 6SJ7 (Meh.)
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To: AnTiw1
You mean like this rail gun?

Biggest issues to me on this would be keeping the acceleration to a reasonable limit, the low altitude aerodynamic heating, and the size of the rig needed to launch a big payload.

37 posted on 01/23/2012 4:45:06 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: Thane_Banquo
I’d like to see someone talking about a means of enabling regular inter-continental space travel.

How about Obama's inter-continental railroad?

38 posted on 01/23/2012 5:03:02 PM PST by joe212
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To: SatinDoll

Cool stuff. Platinum is a KEY element in catalytic converters, which is the single biggest reason that air isn’t smelly anymore, even in California.

The idea of cheap Platinum has HUGE (or HUGH) implications, as it means that anything that moves air can be turned into an air purifier. So a simple fan, for an extra $10, could pretty much clean out the in an otherwise nasty house...for example.


39 posted on 01/23/2012 5:37:05 PM PST by BobL ("Heartless" and "Inhumane" FReepers for Cain - we've HAD ENOUGH)
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To: AnTiw1

“What we need is a cheaper method of getting a load into orbit before we do anything else.”

That is why manufacturing in space is so important - you make what you need out there!

Solar energy is a very realistic energy source in space. It would be an endless energy source. Getting the stuff back to earth is a no brainer. Using a giant-sized rail gun to shoot payloads off the moon’s surface is a doable idea with current technology.

Robotics has advanced to the point where orbiting manufacturing platforms can be a reality.

There exists a treaty that has hamstrung all of this: the Russians find it irritating as well.

We’ll see what Gingrich has to say - i’m sure he has some angle on this treaty that none of us has considered.


40 posted on 01/23/2012 5:51:47 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: kosciusko51

Find a mountain in Nepal whose natural features provide a perfect “ramp”...


41 posted on 01/23/2012 6:32:46 PM PST by AnTiw1
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