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Romney on immigration: I'm for "self-deportation" (SMH)
cbs ^ | 1/23/2012 | By Lucy Madison

Posted on 01/24/2012 3:37:59 AM PST by tobyhill

In Monday night's Republican presidential debate out of Florida, Mitt Romney described his plan for reducing the number of undocumented immigrants in the U.S.: "self-deportation."

The former Massachusetts governor was responding to a question about his immigration position by Adam Smith, the political editor at "The Tampa Bay Times," who said he was "confused" about his stance on deportation.

"Governor Romney, there is one thing I'm confused about. You say you don't want to go and round up people and deport them, but you also say that they would have to go back to their home countries and then apply for citizenship. So, if you don't deport them, how do you send them home?" Smith asked.

Romney said "we're not going to round people up" but rather, financially struggling undocumented immigrants would choose to return to their home countries of their own volition.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens

1 posted on 01/24/2012 3:38:05 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

embarrassing


2 posted on 01/24/2012 3:39:51 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (NEWT GINGRICH 2012)
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To: tobyhill

?


3 posted on 01/24/2012 3:39:54 AM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: tobyhill

How to get rid of all illegal aliens?

Turn them into republicans, the democrats will have the hounds after them....they won’t stand a chance.

;-)


4 posted on 01/24/2012 3:45:37 AM PST by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: ronnie raygun
Shaking My Head
5 posted on 01/24/2012 3:46:47 AM PST by tobyhill (Obama, The Biggest Thief In American History)
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To: tobyhill
Romney said "we're not going to round people up" but rather, financially struggling undocumented immigrants would choose to return to their home countries of their own volition.

These guys, Myth? Yathink?


6 posted on 01/24/2012 3:48:49 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: AuntB; Tennessee Nana; TADSLOS; raybbr; Condor51
Romney said "financially struggling undocumented immigrants" would choose to return to their home countries of their own volition.

Huh? What "financially struggling undocumented immigrants"?

A common practice among "impoverished" illegals is to buy several faked identitues for several thousand dollars each----the illegal then votes........ and profitably rides the US gravy train under several names.

One latino stole $3.2 million UI benefits using several identities. Jose Madrigal---the Washington state tapist---had some 30 identities.

7 posted on 01/24/2012 3:51:03 AM PST by Liz
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To: AuntB; Tennessee Nana; TADSLOS; raybbr; Condor51
Romney said "financially struggling undocumented immigrants" would choose to return to their home countries of their own volition.

Huh? What "financially struggling undocumented immigrants"?

A common practice among "impoverished" illegals is to buy several faked identitues for several thousand dollars each----the illegal then votes........ and profitably rides the US gravy train under several names.

One latino stole $3.2 million UI benefits using several identities. Jose Madrigal---the Washington state tapist---had some 30 identities.

8 posted on 01/24/2012 3:51:03 AM PST by Liz
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To: tobyhill

Self-deportation works; all we have to do is make them unemployable.


9 posted on 01/24/2012 3:51:52 AM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: AuntB; Tennessee Nana; TADSLOS; raybbr; Condor51
Romney said "financially struggling undocumented immigrants" would choose to return to their home countries of their own volition.

Huh? What "financially struggling undocumented immigrants"?

A common practice among "impoverished" illegals is to buy several faked identitues for several thousand dollars each----the illegal then votes........ and profitably rides the US gravy train under several names.

One latino stole $3.2 million UI benefits using several identities. Jose Madrigal---the Washington state tapist---had some 30 identities.

10 posted on 01/24/2012 3:51:59 AM PST by Liz
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To: Redbob
They won't ever become unemployed, they'll just work cheaper and cheaper to where actual citizens can't compete.
11 posted on 01/24/2012 3:56:08 AM PST by tobyhill (Obama, The Biggest Thief In American History)
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To: All

Newt Gingrich’s stance on illegal aliens...

“In three years and eight months, we defeated fascist Italy, Nazi Germany and imperial Japan. Today, we can’t build a (border) fence,” Gingrich said. “I would propose cutting off all federal funds to any city that declares itself a sanctuary city.”

He said that if UPS and FedEx could keep track of millions of packages a day, the federal government should be able to track illegal immigrants in the country.

But Gingrich added: “I don’t believe we’ll ever pass a bill which requires us to hunt down every single person” who has been in this country for some time illegally.

Gingrich also said he would favor a “very sophisticated, very clean” guest worker program.

“I think we should go back to the World War Two selective service model where local citizens are certified at a local level, where they actually know the person,” he said.

“If the person is a good citizen, has genuine ties to the United States, has genuine roots, they still don’t get amnesty, they still don’t get citizenship, they still don’t get the right to vote. They do get the legal right to be a resident.”


12 posted on 01/24/2012 3:58:05 AM PST by Liz
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To: tobyhill

Romney also spoke of a “transition period” during which the illegal aliens would be allowed to work prior to having the right to work revoked (supposedly inducing them to leave). So essentially, for now, he would let them work. The idea that a bunch of illegal aliens with work authorization would actually later leave the USA after having their work authorization pulled strikes me as fanciful at best. It sounds more like a lame attempt to be on both sides of the issue at the same time.


13 posted on 01/24/2012 3:58:52 AM PST by Stingray51
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To: tobyhill

Let’s see how mitt feels when a drunk illegal runs a red light and kills one of his kids. Or an illegal yard crew worker breaks in his home and kills a family member or steals his stuff.
Personally I’m simply fed the hell up with paying for these leaches.


14 posted on 01/24/2012 4:00:00 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: tobyhill

BOLD - isn’t he?


15 posted on 01/24/2012 4:05:17 AM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: tobyhill

BOLD - isn’t he?


16 posted on 01/24/2012 4:05:28 AM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: Joe Boucher

“Let’s see how mitt feels when a drunk illegal runs a red light and kills one of his kids. Or an illegal yard crew worker breaks in his home and kills a family member or steals his stuff.”

Sure, it’s easy to go after those people. But there are many other illegals who stay below the radar and don’t cause trouble.


17 posted on 01/24/2012 4:06:47 AM PST by ari-freedom (If SOPA passes, we will lose our Free Republic.)
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To: ari-freedom

All illegals “cause trouble”. They are felons, breaking federal immigration laws. They are a burden on the taxpaying citizen. They drive hourly wages down and steal jobs. They cause trouble in many many ways. Deport ALL illegal aliens.


18 posted on 01/24/2012 4:09:13 AM PST by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: ari-freedom

I would agree with mitt if all illegal aliens immediately self-deported. Unfortunately, they won’t.


19 posted on 01/24/2012 4:10:44 AM PST by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: tobyhill
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20 posted on 01/24/2012 4:12:49 AM PST by NCDave (AKA, "That idiot over there")
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To: tobyhill

Hey Mitt-why don’t we speed up the process by cutting off benefits to illegals?


21 posted on 01/24/2012 4:13:26 AM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: hal ogen

Let’s be honest, Newt is talking about letting people stay and I believe he refers to many leaving on their own. In the earlier debates, it was Romney who responded by saying enforce existing law.

I don’t find anything confusing about either one’s position. If you really enforce work laws, illegals will go home.


22 posted on 01/24/2012 4:35:31 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Liz
Romney said "financially struggling undocumented immigrants" would choose to return to their home countries of their own volition.

The standard GOP establishment answer sanctioned by the US Chamber of Commerce.

23 posted on 01/24/2012 4:40:04 AM PST by TADSLOS (Gingrich-Palin FTW!)
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To: Liz
“I think we should go back to the World War Two selective service model where local citizens are certified at a local level, where they actually know the person,” he said. “If the person is a good citizen, has genuine ties to the United States, has genuine roots, they still don’t get amnesty, they still don’t get citizenship, they still don’t get the right to vote. They do get the legal right to be a resident.”

Newt's immigration 'ideas' are idiotic and dangerously naive (or merely disingenuous). What if these 'boards' decide to keep every illegal, like L.A., Seattle, Houston et al would most likely do? They are already 'sanctuary cities'. And his endorsement of a 'military-only DREAM Act' is absurd. As this article points out, it is totally unworkable and a fig leaf for blanket amnesty: Military Cutbacks Undermine Major Rationale for “DREAM Act”.

24 posted on 01/24/2012 5:09:06 AM PST by montag813
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To: Redbob; tobyhill
Self-deportation works; all we have to do is make them unemployable.

Is that what Mitt said last night?
25 posted on 01/24/2012 5:22:26 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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26 posted on 01/24/2012 5:24:32 AM PST by bcsco
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To: tobyhill

I don’t think Mitt’s “plan” is any different from the status quo. How’s that working?


27 posted on 01/24/2012 6:12:16 AM PST by vmivol00
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To: tobyhill

The term “self-deport” has been used on this very website for many years. It’s not as if Romney coined the phrase, as the media is trying to portray.


28 posted on 01/24/2012 6:53:37 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: tobyhill

I’m just a highschool educated SAHM, but if I was running the show. I would secure the border: fence, national guard, border patrol, video, etc. Whatever it takes. Then I would make the penalties so steep for hiring illegals, fines and jail terms, for people hiring them that it would deter most from doing it. Lastly, I would stop all government aid to illegals. No free medical care. No free school. No help with food. No driver’s licenses. Automatic deportation for those caught. If those things were implemented, making life here very inhospitable, then many people would self deport. If Mitt isn’t talking about making life inhospitable, then they’ll stay here because it’s going to be better here then where they came from.


29 posted on 01/24/2012 7:55:16 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: ari-freedom

The majority of illegals do stay out of trouble BUT, they take jobs real citizens should be doing. They get our welfare rolls mightily and they line up for free healthcare, food, housing, clothing etc.
Now if you also care to address the issue, just check out how much money jailing illegals costs us including courts, jails, etc.
I’ve heard twenty percent of riminals in calif jails are illegals.Now if you include Florida, Arizona and the rest of the nation with ALL these costs you’re talking REAL money.
No problem with LEGAL immigration, just don;’t think we should allow folks who come here starting off by breaking the law to get a thin penny off the dole.


30 posted on 01/24/2012 8:02:56 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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31 posted on 01/24/2012 9:56:37 AM PST by HiJinx (I can (still) see Mexico from my back porch.)
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To: beaversmom
I’m just a highschool educated SAHM, but if I was running the show. I would secure the border: fence, national guard, border patrol, video, etc. Whatever it takes. Then I would make the penalties so steep for hiring illegals, fines and jail terms, for people hiring them that it would deter most from doing it. Lastly, I would stop all government aid to illegals. No free medical care. No free school. No help with food. No driver’s licenses. Automatic deportation for those caught. If those things were implemented, making life here very inhospitable, then many people would self deport. If Mitt isn’t talking about making life inhospitable, then they’ll stay here because it’s going to be better here then where they came from.

I've been saying this for years too. Hey, let's run for office. :-)

32 posted on 01/24/2012 10:12:10 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: tobyhill

Those whom are still backing Romney also rival him in idiocy.


33 posted on 01/24/2012 10:19:36 AM PST by Eaker (Remember, the enemy tends to wise up at the least convenient moments.)
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To: Redbob
all we have to do is make them unemployable.

Or cut their hamstrings and drop them off in the Mexican desert. Maybe THAT will keep the illegal alien criminals from crossing back into the United States.

34 posted on 01/24/2012 10:23:46 AM PST by Eaker (Remember, the enemy tends to wise up at the least convenient moments.)
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To: vmivol00
Romney does marginally better than the staus quo, by earning a C+. Santorum earns an A-. Newt is all status quo and earns a D. Details on all the presidential hopeful's immigration stands are given here.
35 posted on 01/24/2012 11:25:03 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: truthkeeper

Hey birds of a feather! Are you a male? I suppose I would have to be VP then, but maybe not. I am good with a budget too. I can trim a lot of fat when needed.


36 posted on 01/24/2012 7:51:33 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: Eaker
Those whom are still backing Romney also rival him in idiocy.

Such is the nature of an elitist and the elite that supports him.

37 posted on 01/24/2012 8:01:11 PM PST by Biblebelter
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To: tobyhill

what moron would think of anyone getting free housing, medical, food and very little taxation riding on the coat tails of citizens of this nation would leave??? and have to work?????


38 posted on 01/24/2012 11:12:10 PM PST by television is just wrong
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To: beaversmom

Nope, a woman. I can multi-task too. LOL


39 posted on 01/25/2012 4:55:27 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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