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Photo Exclusive: When George Romney Met Saul Alinsky
BuzzFeed ^ | 1/24/2012 | Andrew Kaczynski

Posted on 01/24/2012 4:52:04 PM PST by BubbaJunebug

In the wake of the devastating Detroit riots of the summer of 1967, Michigan Gov. George Romney — a liberal Republican — met the radical organizer Saul Alinsky to discuss the grievances of the urban black poor. Now Romney's son is fighting for the Republican nomination, and his main rival, Newt Gingrich, has made Barack Obama's alleged ties to Alinsky a centerpiece of his campaign.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alinsky; georgeromney; obama; romney; romneyfather
Hmmmm....here is the link

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/photo-exclusive-when-george-romney-met-saul-alins

1 posted on 01/24/2012 4:52:10 PM PST by BubbaJunebug
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To: BubbaJunebug

Ah, the ironies of history.


2 posted on 01/24/2012 4:56:26 PM PST by GVnana (Newt 2012 - He Speaks for Us)
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http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/photo-exclusive-when-george-romney-met-saul-alins


3 posted on 01/24/2012 4:57:44 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: BubbaJunebug

4 posted on 01/24/2012 4:59:26 PM PST by OL Hickory (Jesus and the American soldier-1 died for your soul/1 died for your freedom)
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To: BubbaJunebug

BTTT


5 posted on 01/24/2012 4:59:26 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: BubbaJunebug
Geez. Not only did he run AMC, but he also thought Alinsky was worth promoting. Does it get any worse?


6 posted on 01/24/2012 5:00:02 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: BubbaJunebug
If Mr. Alinsky wasn't black (as far as I know, he wasn't) why did Gov. Romney meet with him? BTW, this was when Gov. Romney's church didn't allow male blacks to enter their priesthood. Or am I mistaken?
7 posted on 01/24/2012 5:17:05 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: BubbaJunebug

This is why I love FR.


8 posted on 01/24/2012 5:34:42 PM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: BubbaJunebug

OUCH!


9 posted on 01/24/2012 5:40:52 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: BubbaJunebug

10 posted on 01/24/2012 5:43:13 PM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: BubbaJunebug

O Reilly just had a segment with Combs and Crowly discussing Alinsky. Crowly got in the Obama had taught the class on Alinsky at U of CHicago. Can anyone get the segment and post a link here on FR.

It wasn’t nearly long enough, but it’s a start.

Also can’t find the short list of rules for radicals, not the book. Any one have it handy?


11 posted on 01/24/2012 5:47:05 PM PST by hoosiermama
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To: onyx; maggief; STARWISE; LucyT; thouworm

Don’t miss the picture. Papa Romney/Alinsky


12 posted on 01/24/2012 5:49:57 PM PST by hoosiermama
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He is not black, but he did dedicate his book RULES FOR RADICALs to Lucifer.

Hillary Clinton did her discertation on Alinsky....Remember she hid it for many years....She’s a follower

Alinsky taught classes in his methods at U of CHicago.


13 posted on 01/24/2012 5:55:05 PM PST by hoosiermama
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To: hoosiermama; Flotsam_Jetsome; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; ...
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When George Romney Met Saul Alinsky

. . . . Photos.

Thanks hm.

['nite all.]

14 posted on 01/24/2012 5:57:25 PM PST by LucyT ( NB. ~ Pakistan was NOT on the U.S. State Department's "no travel" list in 1981. ~)
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To: hoosiermama

I have the following. I must have gotten it from here but I don’t remember who originally posted it. So without proper citation here it is -

Speaking of Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals... Here they are:

RULE 1: “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources - money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood. (These are two things of which there is a plentiful supply. Government and corporations always have a difficult time appealing to people, and usually do so almost exclusively with economic arguments.)

RULE 2: “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone. (Organizations under attack wonder why radicals don’t address the “real” issues. This is why. They avoid things with which they have no knowledge.)

RULE 3: “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)

RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entity’s very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)

RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)

RULE 6: “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones. (Radical activists, in this sense, are no different that any other human being. We all avoid “un-fun” activities, and but we revel at and enjoy the ones that work and bring results.)

RULE 7: “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news. (Even radical activists get bored. So to keep them excited and involved, organizers are constantly coming up with new tactics.)

RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)

RULE 9: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist. (Perception is reality. Large organizations always prepare a worst-case scenario, something that may be furthest from the activists’ minds. The upshot is that the organization will expend enormous time and energy, creating in its own collective mind the direst of conclusions. The possibilities can easily poison the mind and result in demoralization.)

RULE 10: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. (Unions used this tactic. Peaceful [albeit loud] demonstrations during the heyday of unions in the early to mid-20th Century incurred management’s wrath, often in the form of violence that eventually brought public sympathy to their side.)

RULE 11: “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem. (Old saw: If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem. Activist organizations have an agenda, and their strategy is to hold a place at the table, to be given a forum to wield their power. So, they have to have a compromise solution.)

RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)


15 posted on 01/24/2012 6:01:07 PM PST by Waryone (Mitt Romney, the father of gay marriage and socialized medicine in the US, is a lying socialist)
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To: BubbaJunebug; hoosiermama; TitansAFC; greyfoxx39; JediJones; Windflier; Lakeshark

This guy, Andrew Kaczynski, suggests following him on twitter.

Apparently, he’s got it in for Romney!

GO Andrew Kaczynski!!!!


16 posted on 01/24/2012 6:06:34 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: Earthdweller

Devastating.

Old man Romney was also a liberal.


17 posted on 01/24/2012 6:08:15 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: Earthdweller; LucyT; onyx; maggief; STARWISE

Thanks to Lucy t here is the short form of Rules for Radical previously posted on FR.

Keep it handy. We’ll need it in the next few months.
(Wish we had a tab for it.)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2308852/posts


18 posted on 01/24/2012 6:18:36 PM PST by hoosiermama
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To: onyx

They look rather chummy together. The father looks as fake as the son, too.


19 posted on 01/24/2012 6:22:33 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Preparation ZOT, for prompt relief from annoying romnoids.)
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To: BubbaJunebug

I believe Rick Santorum would call this “an issue of character.”


20 posted on 01/24/2012 6:26:45 PM PST by kevao
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To: Waryone

Thanks. Lucy sent me her link and then found where my had been hidden...It wasn’t in the crashed computer after all.

Keep it handy, we’ll need it!


21 posted on 01/24/2012 6:34:55 PM PST by hoosiermama
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To: hoosiermama
Hillary Clinton did her discertation on Alinsky....Remember she hid it for many years....She’s a follower

She's much more than a follower - she trained under Alinsky in Berkeley, and he asked her to be his successor. She declined, but only on a tactical difference of opinion. She felt she'd have more leverage going into politics, rather than working as an organizer. Then later she refined her leverage into going into politics behind Bill.

She's Stalin to Alinsky's Lenin.

22 posted on 01/24/2012 7:20:20 PM PST by Talisker (Apology accepted, Captain Needa.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Communists/progressives/liberals/fascist (or whatever they call themselves from election to election when they have to remake themselves to hide), stick together on the ultimate goals of overcoming the constitution, it’s people and culture. Some would do it fast and bloody (alinsky) and some would prefer to slowly boil the frog (Romney).


23 posted on 01/24/2012 7:36:26 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: prairiebreeze

marker


24 posted on 01/24/2012 7:37:10 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Who are you and what have you done with Ann Coulter?!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This was 1967, so yes Romney’s church was still denying blacks salvation when the meeting occurred.


25 posted on 01/24/2012 7:47:37 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Waryone

If your goal is to influence people and effect change, Alinsky’s rules are powerful stuff. We don’t like how they’re used, but as the old yippies said “co-opt the man”...we need to use Alinsky’s rules against the other side; to do any less is to bring a knife to a gun fight.

Alinsky maybe was a genius. And evil one, but no dummy. Just like Machiavelli, Sun Tzu, and our old pal “Jen-gis Kahn”.


26 posted on 01/24/2012 7:59:33 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Psalm 144
In the left photo, the profile of Mitt's father looks a great deal like Mitt himself.
27 posted on 01/24/2012 10:59:45 PM PST by Major Matt Mason (The Chicago Way isn't the American Way.)
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To: Major Matt Mason

Yes he does. This is a GREAT campaign photo and narrative for Gingrich.


28 posted on 01/24/2012 11:31:12 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Major Matt Mason

Guy all the way on right looks like Soros. less 40 plus years.


29 posted on 01/24/2012 11:31:22 PM PST by easternsky
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To: SaraJohnson

“Some would do it fast and bloody (alinsky) and some would prefer to slowly boil the frog (Romney).”

Agreed. So many look at Romney and just see the pompadour and the slick. They completely miss the fact that he is an ideological Trojan Horse.


30 posted on 01/24/2012 11:33:23 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Major Matt Mason

Looking at the photos again I notice the body language between Alinsky and Romney. Romney is subordinate. He hunches and bows to the smaller Alinsky, who stands loose, confident and even puffed up.

Pitiful.


31 posted on 01/24/2012 11:37:29 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Waryone

Alinsky’s rules are good tactics but as yet an unproven strategy.


32 posted on 01/25/2012 6:36:24 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

“Alinsky’s rules are good tactics but as yet an unproven strategy.”

Well maybe....but it sure seems to work on McConnell and Boehner


33 posted on 01/25/2012 7:09:19 AM PST by BubbaJunebug
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To: Waryone

All plagiarized of course, from Antonio Gramsci..


34 posted on 01/25/2012 3:03:16 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: LucyT

Not true.

I don’t remember meeting G. Romney. After all, I’ve been dead for forty years, worms and all, ya know?

Dumb 0b0z0 was an idiot. He’s the only jackass who still assing the garbage I taught him instead of mouthing something intelligent!

Late Prof. Alinsky


35 posted on 01/25/2012 6:03:21 PM PST by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist)
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To: BubbaJunebug
bttt Newt does not bring up Alinsky because of liberal democrats alone.....
36 posted on 01/27/2012 7:55:43 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: BubbaJunebug
This bttt is for the people who missed this expose.
37 posted on 02/03/2012 12:51:50 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Earthdweller

This is why I love FR.
TIMES 1 MILLION!


38 posted on 02/03/2012 12:59:09 PM PST by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
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