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Romney Advisor: No Obamacare Repeal
RedState ^ | 1/4/12 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 01/25/2012 3:18:14 PM PST by OPS4

As Ben Domenech notes in his Transom, Mitt Romney’s advisors have now advised him to support “a $2 gas tax, a VAT, and open Taliban talks.” Add to that list not repealing Obamacare. Norm Coleman, an advisor to Romney, went on record saying

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: backstabberromney; badsportromney; benedictromney; mitt4romney; obamacare; obamneycare; romney; romney4romney; romneycare; romneydirtytrick
Well there ya go folks, Romney has now become ObamaII Newt Gingrich 2012
1 posted on 01/25/2012 3:18:21 PM PST by OPS4
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To: OPS4

If for some reason Romney ends up getting the nomination, I can now vote third party with a clear conscience.


2 posted on 01/25/2012 3:21:08 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Romney cant win, if anyone is reading this.


3 posted on 01/25/2012 3:25:32 PM PST by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord)
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To: OPS4
Mitt Romney’s advisors have now advised him to support “a $2 gas tax, a VAT, and open Taliban talks.”

It makes for a tough decision in the election cycle.

0bama or Romney....

Newt is our only hope.

4 posted on 01/25/2012 3:30:01 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: OPS4

I know, but the GOP nomenklatura didn’t get the memo.


5 posted on 01/25/2012 3:30:06 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: OPS4
Norm Coleman, an advisor to Romney, went on record saying, "We’re not going to do repeal. You’re not going to repeal Obamacare… It’s not a total repeal… You will not repeal the act in its entirety, but you will see major changes, particularly if there is a Republican president… You can’t whole-cloth throw it out. But you can substantially change what’s been done."

Nice. Romney picks as an advisor the the only guy who got beat by both Jesse Ventura and Al Franken in statewide elections.

6 posted on 01/25/2012 3:37:11 PM PST by Huntress ("Politicians exploit economic illiteracy." --Walter Williams)
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To: EGPWS

Been contemplating that myself.


7 posted on 01/25/2012 3:40:04 PM PST by RC one (the majority of republicans agree, anyone but Romney.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
"If a Republican gets into the White House and does not sweat blood trying to repeal Obamacare in its entirety (regardless of success), I predict the end of the Republican Party legitimately."

You and millions of others will feel the same way!

8 posted on 01/25/2012 3:43:30 PM PST by ImpBill ("America, where are you now?" - Little "r" republican!)
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To: OPS4
Intead of Obama's target of $7 a gallon gas, we get the Romney target of $9 a gallon gas.

Is this a satire?

9 posted on 01/25/2012 3:46:06 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Slings and Arrows

Ron Paul has still not said if he would join a 3rd party movement.


10 posted on 01/25/2012 3:52:14 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: OPS4

Like Newt says, if elected, Romney will manage our decline as a nation—it is not in Romney to be a bold President, or as Newt says, “grandiose”, and employ policies that will reverse the backsliding. All Romney is is an empty suit much like Obama, but without the needed, opposite core beliefs of Obama.


11 posted on 01/25/2012 3:54:04 PM PST by izzatzo (All in for Newt.)
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To: OPS4

open Taliban talks.”
________________________________

we dont need to be talking to them...

we need to be nuking them...


12 posted on 01/25/2012 3:54:18 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: OPS4

open Taliban talks.”
________________________________

we dont need to be talking to them...

we need to be nuking them...


13 posted on 01/25/2012 3:54:18 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: OPS4

Mark Levin is talking about this right now...


14 posted on 01/25/2012 4:00:32 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: OPS4

If Romney is the nominee who to vote for, a socialist commie pig or a socialist..screwed either way


15 posted on 01/25/2012 4:07:56 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Huntress
Nice. Romney picks as an advisor the the only guy who got beat by both Jesse Ventura and Al Franken in statewide elections.

Don't forget, a (sort of) ex-Democrat.

16 posted on 01/25/2012 4:11:41 PM PST by Egon (The difference between Theory and Practice: In Theory, there is no difference.)
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To: Huntress

If FR had a like button, I’d click it right now.


17 posted on 01/25/2012 4:11:44 PM PST by NorthStarStateConservative (The Democrat Party: Making Black People Slaves in Some Form Or The Other Since the 1850s)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Hear hear, Nana.
18 posted on 01/25/2012 4:12:09 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: OPS4

Like Obama, but white.

All Romney’s got?


19 posted on 01/25/2012 4:14:49 PM PST by Salman
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To: OPS4

If this comes as a surprise to anyone, then they haven’t been paying attention.

The only surprising thing is that they are openly saying this now.

I refuse to support the destruction of the GOP. I will never vote for Romney....no matter what.


20 posted on 01/25/2012 4:18:56 PM PST by vmivol00
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To: vmivol00

You are over reacting. Romney will not have the votes to repeal Obamacare. He will not implement it and pressure Congress to change it. Gingrich will be forced to do the same thing. Hopefully, the USSC will cut Obamacare down so this issue will not be a factor.


21 posted on 01/25/2012 4:27:54 PM PST by businessprofessor
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To: OPS4

...this is the best we could find in 2012?

I really hope Santorum surges.


22 posted on 01/25/2012 4:41:11 PM PST by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: OPS4
"Romney cant win, if anyone is reading this."

No. Obama can't win. That is the problem with Mittens...

23 posted on 01/25/2012 4:43:53 PM PST by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: OPS4

VAT???? That is more radical than the commies would dare do to the people of this country.

I did not think he’d repeal his own death health system.

Obama’s foreign policy can not be turned on a dime. We are stuck working around all the damage he has done to our country in weakening our position and power in the world. That includes whatever he is doing with the Taliban.

Israel is going to pay a big price for Obama’s handiwork. We can’t fix what the freak has done in the Middle East to our oil security and with moving the radical Muslim Brotherhood into control over the armies of Egypt, Libya, and Syria.


24 posted on 01/25/2012 4:50:10 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: businessprofessor

I don’t think I am over reacting. He has a record as a gun grabbing socialist. If he has a record that speaks otherwise, let me know.

If we are going to have a gun grabbing socialist in office, let it be in the Democrat party...not the GOP.


25 posted on 01/25/2012 5:36:39 PM PST by vmivol00
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To: OPS4

Then I shant feel any compunction about choosing not to vote for President if the only options are Romney or Obama.


26 posted on 01/25/2012 7:19:54 PM PST by Oceander (TINSTAAFL - Mother Nature Abhors a Free Lunch almost as much as She Abhors a Vacuum)
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To: OPS4
(Article) “a $2 gas tax, a VAT, and open Taliban talks.”

Advisors? Advisors? Who the hell are these guys, and who have they been talking to? Are they really advisors, or are they messenger boys and bagmen from the -- as someone called them above -- "the Republican Nomenklatura"?

Who decided we needed a VAT? Cui bono?

Who decided we need a phat gas tax? And let's not be coy -- "talks with the Taliban" = "Get out of Afghanistan" = "Get Afghanistan off my taxes!! I want another tax rebate! Billions for tribute, but screw this Defense stuff!!!"

No, who's making this stuff up, and feeding it to Willard's "advisors"?

27 posted on 01/26/2012 12:20:03 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
He didn't bad-mouth Reagan, he simply said the marketing pitch for the campaign has to be "something new" not "continuing the last decade." Describing this any other way is pure Romorrhoid spin. This reasoning is exactly why Newt came up with the Contract with America. He thought the party needed a new marketing pitch and he proved to be absolutely right. Newt said the exact same kind of thing about needing to come up with new ideas in the interview a few years a go that got recently spun by his enemies (and by idiot sheeple conservatives) as Newt proclaiming "the era of Reagan was over." These lies about what his remarks mean are absolutely unconscionable. What we have here are people who DESPISE Reagan and do want to see everything he stood for come to an end SLAMMING the man who worked with Reagan and wants to continue Reagan's policies by accusing him of the very thing they're guilty of. I believe this is one of Alinsky's tactics...accuse your opponent of what YOU are guilty of before they get a chance to accuse you of it. This is the interview where Newt discussed trying to create a new agenda based on conservative principles: http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/story?id=4128020&page=1#.Tw3KmoEeW9x TRANSCRIPT Newt Gingrich Talks with George January 13, 2008 Look, I think there are dramatic changes we need in this country. We produced a platform of the American people at American Solutions. And it’s at the back of our book “Real Change.” It’s also at Americansolutions.com. Every single item on the list has a majority of Democrats, majority of Republicans, majority of independents favoring. The easiest one is making English the official language of government. Look, I think the first two things the president and the Congress can do on the economy is cut spending. If you’ll notice, you have a primary in Michigan, a state which artificially had a recession, because its government is so bad, its taxes are so high, its unionized work rules are so destructive, that Michigan was in a recession when the rest of the country was growing. Part of — real change focuses — a long section on Detroit. The truth is, large bureaucracies are destructive. High taxes are destructive. The system we’ve built discourages any business from opening up in Detroit. The schools don’t deliver. They do deliver paychecks. They do take care of the union. But they don’t deliver for the kids. And this is at a time when if you’re an African- American male and you drop out of high school, you have a 73 percent chance of being unemployed and a 60 percent chance of going to jail. So I think we need dramatically deeper and more fundamental change. So — but let’s take things the American people agree on. The American people agree you ought to make it easier to build oil refineries in the United States if you want to bring down the price of oil. The American people agree that you ought to set up prizes for major breakthroughs. And that would be very different than the system we’ve used since World War II. The American people, in fact, agree that we ought to have tax credits for people who are willing to go to greater conservation for their homes. I mean, far beyond just how do I subsidize your heating oil, how do I make it unnecessary for you to buy as much heating oil? The Congress and the president do have an opportunity to listen to the American people, who are saying that real change does matter, and the real change is what they want. The way the McCain/Feingold law currently discriminates against the middle class, is it sets up a system by which, you know, if you’re the mayor of New York and you’re Bloomberg and you’re worth $11 billion, you can contemplate buying the presidency and get away with it. If you are a self-, you know, a multi-millionaire governor and you want to, you can buy a nomination. And so, I just think there’s nothing unhealthy about the Republican Party having a serious discussion. We are at the end of the George W. Bush era. We are at the end of the Reagan era. We’re at a point in time where we’re about to start redefining — as a number of people have started talking about, we’re starting to redefine the nature of the Republican Party in response to what the country needs.
28 posted on 01/26/2012 12:33:09 AM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Screwed up the last post, let me try again...

He didn’t bad-mouth Reagan, he simply said the marketing pitch for the campaign has to be “something new” not “continuing the last decade.” Describing this any other way is pure Romorrhoid spin. This reasoning is exactly why Newt came up with the Contract with America. He thought the party needed a new marketing pitch and he proved to be absolutely right.

Newt said the exact same kind of thing about needing to come up with new ideas in the interview a few years a go that got recently spun by his enemies (and by idiot sheeple conservatives) as Newt proclaiming “the era of Reagan was over.”

These lies about what his remarks mean are absolutely unconscionable. What we have here are people who DESPISE Reagan and do want to see everything he stood for come to an end SLAMMING the man who worked with Reagan and wants to continue Reagan’s policies by accusing him of the very thing they’re guilty of. I believe this is one of Alinsky’s tactics...accuse your opponent of what YOU are guilty of before they get a chance to accuse you of it.

This is the interview where Newt discussed trying to create a new agenda based on conservative principles:

http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/story?id=4128020&page=1#.Tw3KmoEeW9x

TRANSCRIPT Newt Gingrich Talks with George

January 13, 2008

Look, I think there are dramatic changes we need in this country.

We produced a platform of the American people at American Solutions. And it’s at the back of our book “Real Change.” It’s also at Americansolutions.com. Every single item on the list has a majority of Democrats, majority of Republicans, majority of independents favoring.

The easiest one is making English the official language of government.

Look, I think the first two things the president and the Congress can do on the economy is cut spending. If you’ll notice, you have a primary in Michigan, a state which artificially had a recession, because its government is so bad, its taxes are so high, its unionized work rules are so destructive, that Michigan was in a recession when the rest of the country was growing.

Part of — real change focuses — a long section on Detroit.

The truth is, large bureaucracies are destructive. High taxes are destructive. The system we’ve built discourages any business from opening up in Detroit. The schools don’t deliver. They do deliver paychecks. They do take care of the union. But they don’t deliver for the kids. And this is at a time when if you’re an African- American male and you drop out of high school, you have a 73 percent chance of being unemployed and a 60 percent chance of going to jail.

So I think we need dramatically deeper and more fundamental change.

So — but let’s take things the American people agree on. The American people agree you ought to make it easier to build oil refineries in the United States if you want to bring down the price of oil.

The American people agree that you ought to set up prizes for major breakthroughs. And that would be very different than the system we’ve used since World War II.

The American people, in fact, agree that we ought to have tax credits for people who are willing to go to greater conservation for their homes. I mean, far beyond just how do I subsidize your heating oil, how do I make it unnecessary for you to buy as much heating oil?

The Congress and the president do have an opportunity to listen to the American people, who are saying that real change does matter, and the real change is what they want.

The way the McCain/Feingold law currently discriminates against the middle class, is it sets up a system by which, you know, if you’re the mayor of New York and you’re Bloomberg and you’re worth $11 billion, you can contemplate buying the presidency and get away with it. If you are a self-, you know, a multi-millionaire governor and you want to, you can buy a nomination.

And so, I just think there’s nothing unhealthy about the Republican Party having a serious discussion. We are at the end of the George W. Bush era. We are at the end of the Reagan era.

We’re at a point in time where we’re about to start redefining — as a number of people have started talking about, we’re starting to redefine the nature of the Republican Party in response to what the country needs.


29 posted on 01/26/2012 12:43:28 AM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: OPS4
Let us pause, for a moment, and take this opportunity to sit and imagine what an unmitigated disaster a Romney presidency would be for this country. Big government Republican presidents are worse for America than liberal Democrat ones.
30 posted on 01/26/2012 1:06:42 AM PST by BearArms (Newtron Boom!)
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To: BearArms

VERY correct!

And will be the cover to slam down anyone against their policy, especially Arbeitsziehungslager-Care. The big shackle-tax.

The 15 trillion Soviets can’t get enough before the big time Arbeitsziehungslager-Care shackle tax, and are now floating another QE.

Mass-Mitt election shackle tax is what they’re after, and note probably already planning ammending Arbeitsziehungslager-Care shackle tax for even more after 2014.

Further, name one candidate that has proposed EXEMPTING everyone, while awaiting a repeal!! based on non-discrimination.


31 posted on 01/26/2012 1:50:14 AM PST by Varsity Flight (Phony-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: businessprofessor

If the GOP has a majority in senate, that will be enough votes for repeal due to Obamacare being passed under budget reconciliation rules due to election of Scott Brown. Also, under reconciliation, the repeal cannot be filibustered.


32 posted on 01/26/2012 3:06:07 AM PST by johncocktoasten (Practicing asymetrical thread warfare against anti-Palin Trolls)
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To: Jim Robinson

Ping! Romney advisers support higher taxes, Obamacare, and talks with the Taliban.


33 posted on 01/26/2012 10:59:09 AM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: OPS4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCiw7BqSKmA


34 posted on 01/26/2012 11:41:22 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: OPS4

Republican voters, please flock to the polls next Tuesday and vote!!! Forget the Obamabot media, forget the political spin, just vote for the candidate of your choice, be it: Gingrich, Romney, Santroum or Paul, JUST VOTE!!! There are four million registered Republican voters in Florida. Let’s turn out all four million of them!!! If you all work together and help each other, we can turn out a massive vote against America hater & Destroyer, Barack Hussein Obama!!!


35 posted on 01/26/2012 11:49:50 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy POTUS Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: Tennessee Nana
open Taliban talks.”

________________________________

we dont need to be talking to them...

we need to be nuking them...

You can say that again!!!!!

36 posted on 01/26/2012 11:51:04 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (http://www.metropcs.If we stay home in November '12, don't blame 0 for tearing up the CONSTITUTION!!)
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To: TBBT; TitansAFC

Do you have anyway to get this to winningourfuture.org or the Gingrich Campaign? This information is devastating to Mitt Romney.


37 posted on 01/26/2012 9:19:46 PM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: OPS4

And yet there are still a bunch of Freepers who say they will vote for the bastard in the general election.

It makes me want to puke.


38 posted on 01/26/2012 9:25:13 PM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Nik Naym
And yet there are still a bunch of Freepers who say they will vote for the bastard in the general election.

Those "FReepers" must have read the bill and liked what was in it. Pelosi was right after all....

39 posted on 01/26/2012 9:26:52 PM PST by kevao
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To: Jim Robinson

Don’t miss this.
Wow..


40 posted on 01/26/2012 9:30:55 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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