Posted on 01/26/2012 5:55:04 AM PST by RaceBannon
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What a shameful act this is. It takes a naturalized Moldavian woman to single-handedly and at her own expense take on the highest office in the land to try and protect OUR Constitution while our congresscritters sit on their hands and do nothing. She has been threatened, insulted, maligned, and ridiculed over this. In the meantime she has run a law office, a dentistry and a family.
Orly, I am proud of you beyond words. Every American should be thanking you on bended knee for your brave efforts. Thank you, Thank you!!
This is the type of LEGAL immigrate we crave,
Amen!
You reek of obot.
“Obots are thrilled this evening.”
And it seems so are you Sven!!
I just sent JoePac some money for his re-election campaign. He fights the good fight and deserves to be re-elected.
IIRC, the court later asked Orly if she had any objection to it receiving those documents. As the court knew (it was a helpful question), she had no objection since the documents happen to serve the objective of her case, which is that the documents were fabricated.
But for the nonappearance by the defense, it would have had an opportunity to examine what was offered and would have been allowed to compare the exhibits with what is depicted at the internet site.
Nonappearance by the defense is based, of course, on the assertion that because the SOS lacks statutory authority to determine the candidate’s eligibility, the hearing officer lacked subject matter jurisdiction - suggesting the defense thought the hearing was a kangaroo court.
Your #1001 says it well.
Perhaps unavoidably, she brings her former culture and mannerisms into court with her, to say nothing of the fact she has had her head handed to her on this issue over past years. I imagine today’s proceeding would have been ugly if opposing counsel had appeared. As it was, the ALJ IMO had the latitude to be very patient and understanding with her.
{Why is that so hard to understand?}
Lawyers are paid well to make everything questionable, unfortunately it seems to effect them on a sub conscience level making common sense irrelevant, forcing them to invoke innumerable precedent arguments, that way they are never wrong.
{This is not about race, it is about upholding the constitution}
If only that we’re true. If it were truely about the Constitution, we would know the truth, but we don’t, and I doubt we ever will, because it is about power.
Per Ulsterman Report:
UPDATE: Rumors now circulating there will be a default judgement against Barack Obama – that he will NOT be allowed on the Georgia ballot.
If true…GAME ON indeed.
http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/01/26/court-hearing-on-obama-eligibility-completed-now-what/
Touché
Ping to my post #1011 : ))
Oh no no no.... I KNOW what’s going on. Maybe too well... To illustrate... I am looking at this like a chess match, this was just one set of plays from each side... It is all so very calculating. We are spectators to a very large degree, but what are we really witnessing? On the surface, it appears fairly straight forward, but I do not have the nativity needed to believe that all is as it seems. No. Whats going on behind this, and what’s the next move? What are the next three moves? Why?
What really happened today..... ? I don’t think we really know. My gut tells me that it isn’t so good as it would appear. It’s too simple, too shiny, too attractive on the surface. Things like this make my hair stand on end when it comes to Obama. All I know for certain is: More will be revealed, we don’t know the whole story yet. My guesses are just that, guesses... I wish I knew more.... grrrrrrr. If my experience counts for anything, it isn’t all as good as it would seem. Call me jaded, maybe even pessimistic, its probably the truth really. But it doesn’t smell good.
Per Ulsterman Report:
UPDATE: Rumors now circulating there will be a default judgement against Barack Obama – that he will NOT be allowed on the Georgia ballot.
See # 1011.
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You might recall that the original propaganda was, there is something on the BC that might embarrass him, therefore they would not release it.
I remember when we used to feel sorry for the poor Russian people that were being remediated by Pravda.
You could show him the definition of a word in the dictionary and he would still argue about it. He is a disruptor..
I’m surprised he is still allowed here, to be honest.
I think Sven is playing for the other team.
Note rolling_stone’s comments 985 and 986.
The arguments have changed so many times about Obama’s birth certificates that it’s enough to convince conservatives that “evolution” is real.
How about recipes?
Oh, now that has pucker factor written ALL OVER IT. Thanks for the ping!!!!!!!!!
OH! OHohoh!
Wait a minute... does that mean that the petitioners entrance of it into evidence can DO THE SAME THING??????????? Its been entered into evidence, does it matter which side did it?????
WOW..... that would be one damn powerful tool at this point on several levels!!!
"That explains a great deal about you. "
Dude.
“Those two non-Orly cases could result in SCOTUS defining NBC from now forward if an appeal challenges those facts. Part of Obama’s strategy might be to appeal the GA SOS case on jurisdictional or other technicalities, such as those Jablonski tried to put over on the GA SOS.”
The appeal, if any, will be de novo (from the beginning, a fresh start). Plaintiffs or Defendant would be appealing a decision of the GA SoS and not Judge Malihi. Consequently, a civil suit would be filed against GA SoS Kemp, in his capacity as GA SoS, because they disagreed with his decision and want court review.
“Auntie” thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2702976/posts?page=1
And another of my favorites, Fred Nerks’ brilliant “African Colonial” thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2278969/posts?page=1
(Fred didn’t start the thread (neverdem did), but she has packed it with excellent research and history. Kudos to both of you.)
Thanks very much for all of the great sources for info. I came late to this game, and have been working daily for the past nine months to catch up. The folks that have done so MUCH research on this issue are absolute heroes, in my utterly honest opinion.
Thanks for the Freepmail. I might have ignored your insult if I hadn’t been Freepmailed.
Lost in this discussion is the simple fact the non-Orly Plaintiffs could have rested their case after the Defendant failed to appear and won their case. But no. They insisted on entering evidence into the record. They entered printouts of Obama’s COLB and his long form BC as factual evidence. The Judge admitted the documents as undisputed fact.
The sad part is the non-Orly Plaintiffs could have established Obama’s father was a non-citizen without entering the COLB or long form BC. The birth records only indicate where Senior was born. Obama’s books establish Senior as a student in America with a temporary visa.
SatinDoll,
Have you seen this?
It’s a partial quote from rolling_stone and it indicates Orly may have the opportunity to authenticate the copies of Obama’s COLB and Long form BC entered into the record by non-Orly Plaintiffs. Orly should demand to inspect the Original in Hawai’i to verify the copies.
Georgia Administrative law rules 8-1-2.18
(e) documentary evidence in the form of copies if the original is not readily available, if its use would unduly disrupt the records of the possessor of the original, or by agreement of the parties. Upon request, parties shall have an opportunity to compare the copy with the original. Documentary evidence may also be received in the form of excerpts, charts, or summaries when, in the discretion of the Administrative Law Judge, the use of the entire document would unnecessarily add to the record’s length. The entire document shall be made available for examination or copying, or both, by other parties at a reasonable time and place.
http://www.osah.ga.gov/documents/procedures/administrative-rules-osah.pdf
This is not a rumor. See comment 881. It has been reported since 11:30 in the morning. This information comes from more than one source that was there.
:)
I don't know how valid the argument it, but is sure sounds like it could be an issue.
Eye of the Obama (Arizona):
The real issue in this is a President is not elected to these 49 United States, but Constitutionally must be elected by all 50 states, unless they have seceded from the Union as the Confederates did. Unless an event as that has taken place, the Constitution is not about Electoral Colleges or being ratified by Congress, but it is about the Union electing a President of all 50 states. Understand that any President can loose the popular vote as President Bush had, and win the electoral votes, along with numerous states, but no President can be President of these United States if he is not on the ballot or certified in all 50 states.Scholars have missed this ultimate check and balance in the "silence of the Constitution". No state can keep any legal candidate off the ballot, but a state can keep anyone off the ballot who does not provide legal documentation they are qualified to be President.
That is the Constitution at it's core in the Articles concerning the Presidency. 49 states can state a fraud can be President in their super majority, but if one state demands proof and the candidate does not provide that legal proof, the one state in checks and balances can negate a national Presidential Election. There is no court nor Supreme Court which can undo this. Thee only way this could be reversed is by Congress in majority or the states in majority undoing by Amendment the Arizona check and balance, but in that is the Catch 22 in no Amendment can undo the Articles in making a non natural born person a President of these United States. The majority could undo the Arizona check, but the majority can not negate the prime directive of the Constitution concerning Citizenship
I don’t measure anything out when I make cream pies. I just make a basic vanilla pudding from milk, cornstarch, sugar, vanilla, and the egg yolks that I separate for the meringue. And then I add pineapple, coconut, or bananas to the pudding in the baked crust, and top it with meringue.
I should measure it out sometime so I get the right amount. One time I intended to make 2 pies and ended up with 5 because that’s how much filling I had after being a little too generous with the milk. lol
So did he, but he was just an Honorary "black" President.
That may be how WE feel, but that is not necessarily how the SCOTUS feels. Like I said, their last ruling on Roe v Wade was "Stare Decisis." Being moral or legitimate is not that high on their priority list. I believe that the court will pass on the two parent requirement, but I believe they wouldn't be able to ignore the issue if it can be shown that he was born in Canada. *THAT* would create more anger and heat than would black riots throughout the country. There is NO interpretation that would allow them to spin that!
The alleged HI LFBC appears to be forged to me and I don't care what race the person is if they use forgery to dupe the American people into believing they are eligible to be POTUS.
I believe it is forged as well, but I also believe it is a legal forgery produced as a "replacement birth certificate" by the Department of Health in Hawaii.
I would hope to God that a court is knowledgeable and intelligent enough to at least look at this idea before ruling that the document is legitimate, But in my experience, courts get things wrong far too often.
I will put this idea in the corner as a surprise "gift" should it actually happen this way.
Posting this here because it seems to [still!] be the most active thread, and because you mentioned heroes -
butterdezillion made this comment [#59] on the ‘Obama’s Attorney Jablonski Slapped Down By Georgia’s SOS...”. When reading it, keep in mind that Jablonski wasn’t flying off at the handle - those very carefully crafted statements were Jablonski SPEAKING FOR/AS HIS CLIENT, OBAMA.
butterdezillion: “...if Obama’s lawyers let Savannah Guthrie feel the seal on a genuine birth certificate, then why won’t they just submit the stupid thing to Malihi? Anybody with half a brain has to be asking that question.”
That is absolutely the most simple yet profound question...observation...statement yet posited relative to this ongoing Obiefarce. butter’s question exquisitely zeroes-in [pun intended] to what has to be the obvious conclusion, i.e., that the “stupid thing” is a fake.
butter’s question should be called in to every talk show in the nation, and should be published - in bold print caps - in every newspaper and every news website/blog from coast to coast!
KUDOS to you, butterdezillion!
Must suck to be such a low life that your 'duty' is to undermine our Constitution on a daily basis by fighting the efforts of honest Americans to restore our Republic.
The world knows we can't be beat us militarily, at least not now, but they might be able to do it by dividing us and undermining our Constitutional foundation, our culture and our finances.
That's the nature of the very real war we are fighting now and the "Svens" are either on the other side or are their useful idiots.
Yum!
That same filling would make a sumptious Boston creme pie.
Why is it called ‘pie’ when it’s really a cake?
Nonappearance by the defense is based, of course, on the assertion that because the SOS lacks statutory authority to determine the candidate’s eligibility, the hearing officer lacked subject matter jurisdiction - suggesting the defense thought the hearing was a kangaroo court.
Au contraire. Nonappearance by the candidate and his counsel is based, of course, on the fact that they have no legal documents from Hawaii indicating that a Barack Hussein Obama II was born on August 4, 1961. Further, none of these participants wanted to enter false testimony into the hearing as evidence...so easy even a caveman could understand it.
Other states sure to follow...bye bye Bari.
Were you also a Klingon during Halloween?
Not going to spend any further time on this, but the name obviously existed because it is on the Nordyke Twins birth certificates.
Glad you included that link. Every day I’m more and more impressed with your brain and articulation. I’ve no educational or experience ‘creds’ - but do recognize thinking worth paying attention to!
I’ve been saying this all along. Obama claims to have ordered TWO hard copies of his LFBC. What was the point of getting two when he’s not willing to let either one be seen in a court of law. The media needs to ask why one of those alleged birth certificates was not submitted in his defense. Is it a tacit admission that the claims of forgery might be true??
Yup. The only time the case was ever TRIED, Obama lost.
The president, Barry “No Show” Soetoro Obama, has set a precedent that he is unwilling and unable to prove he is eligible for office and to be on the ballots. Time to challenge him in all 57 states.
If you can’t qualify for the primary ballot, you can’t qualify for the general ballot either.
In several cases, he has made some of the most astute observations.
That assessment is right on
Her heart is in the right place, but her social and presentation skills are not up to the task. She also needs better focus and a better prioritization for what she intends to present.
During an eligibility hearing, she needs to leave side issues alone. Obama’s social security issue is not relevant to eligibility. Showing him to be a lying con-man does not make him ineligible. (Unfortunately.)
I agree, he's made that quite obvious for the past year or so.. :/ What are you talking about? Sven has made great efforts to demonstrate that Obama is NOT a natural born citizen. He has worked to explain how Obama's birth records and his weird Connecticut social security number are all linked together, and in my opinion there is quite a bit of merit to his earlier opinions.
Now I think he is wrong about the birth certificate being accepted as valid by the action of the first two attorneys, but people are entitled to be wrong on occasion. Cut Sven some slack.
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