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A Rising Catholic Tide of Resistance May Determine the U.S. Presidential Election
Catholic Online ^ | 1/26/12 | Keith A Fournier

Posted on 01/26/2012 12:15:54 PM PST by tcg

Catholics in the United States are rising up in a Tide of Resistance to the unjust actions and edicts of the Obama Administration. They might determine the outcome of the 2012 Presidential election in the United States...

...President Barack Obama chose Catholics for his administration who defy the teaching of their own Church. If that wasn't bad enough, all of the subterfuge and sophistry which surrounded his promise to honor religious liberty and respect freedom of conscience in the implementation of his "Affordable Care Act" was unmasked this week.

...An Unjust Edict was issued by Kathleen Sebelius, the Secretary of Health and Human Services. It demanded that Catholic hospitals and institutions dispense contraceptives (some of which are abortifacients) and offer sterilization under the so called "Affordable care Act". This amounts to government trying to force the Catholic Church to violate conscience. Failure to do so will bring punitive measures.

This came one day after Pope Benedict XVI addressed a group of US Bishops... He warned them of the growth of radical secularism in the United States and the accompanying threats to the fundamental Right to Religious Freedom...

... Our insistence as Catholic citizens of a recognition in the positive law of the fundamental Human Right to Life is about the future of authentic freedom. Human rights - such as the Natural Law Right to Life - and human freedoms such as the freedom to be born - are goods of human persons. When there is no human person to exercise them all the rhetoric extolling them is nothing but empty air and sloganeering....

...This administration has also failed to defend Religious Freedom as a fundamental human right. It has proven its disregard in its denial of conscience exceptions to Catholic institutions under the so called "Affordable care Act"...

(Excerpt) Read more at catholic.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; catholics; obama; obamacare
Catholics in the United States are rising up in a Tide of Resistance to the unjust actions and edicts of the Obama Administration. They might determine the outcome of the 2012 Presidential election in the United States. That is if they act in a manner which, in the words of the Vatican Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, is "morally coherent." This President and his administration espouse a rapidly expanding Secularist State which fails to respect fundamental human rights including the Right to life and the Right to Religious Freedom.
1 posted on 01/26/2012 12:16:05 PM PST by tcg
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To: tcg

I wonder what percentage of Catholics are voting for mittens.


2 posted on 01/26/2012 12:18:00 PM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: tcg
No way, Josay.

The RCC in the US is hopeless.

3 posted on 01/26/2012 12:18:40 PM PST by HIDEK6
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To: HIDEK6

I’m RC born and raised. I am voting for Newt come “heck” or high water! The Pope himself could not make me vote for Mittens!


4 posted on 01/26/2012 12:23:55 PM PST by JaguarXKE
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To: HIDEK6

There’s always hope. I’m RC and voted for Newt, so did my wife and mother-in-law. That’s at least 3 of us in SC.


5 posted on 01/26/2012 12:26:35 PM PST by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: tcg

The Catholics I know personally are Marxists.


6 posted on 01/26/2012 12:28:57 PM PST by lurk
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To: tcg
President Barack Obama issued his statement: "As we mark the 39th anniversary of Roe v. Wade, we must remember that this Supreme Court decision not only protects a woman's health and reproductive freedom, but also affirms a broader principle: that government should not intrude on private family matters."

Should not intrude on private family matters . . . fubo.

7 posted on 01/26/2012 12:32:28 PM PST by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: HIDEK6

I would say that the problem-Catholics are generally thought to be in the north. There can be little that southern Catholics nor even the Hispanic Catholics find satisfactory in Myth.

Personally, I think Newt may be doing just fine on the stump in Florida, and the outgrowth of it will spread by Tuesday, I pray. He is the best at informing people what exactly is going on with this barrage of incoming to save Romney in Florida. BACKLASH COMING, I expect.


8 posted on 01/26/2012 12:34:55 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. NEWT 2012 / Rick Bachmann=Tool of the RINO/Romney backers)
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To: tcg

I have an acquaintance who actually works in the office of a Catholic parish who voted for the SCOAMF and sent me email campaign propaganda in ‘08.

It’s unbelievable how uninformed,naive and criminally misled by the corrupt media so many citizens are.
It’s the undoing of our Republic.


9 posted on 01/26/2012 12:36:42 PM PST by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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To: lurk

What a great opportunity you have to evangelize them!


10 posted on 01/26/2012 12:37:26 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: cuban leaf

Not this one, nor any of my family. No more RINOs will be voted for here. It was difficult enough voting for McCain. That would have been completely impossible, had it not been for Sarah Palin. My Shorter, Cuter Half™ and I decided that we’d had it with weasels of any stripe. If the RNC were to try to foist Willard on us, I would not be able to vote Republican, anymore than I could vote democrat. He will not ever, under any circumstances, get my vote. Newt isn’t perfect, but is much better than Willard.


11 posted on 01/26/2012 1:05:09 PM PST by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est (And the Word was made flesh))
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To: sayuncledave

—That would have been completely impossible, had it not been for Sarah Palin. —

I told my friends (and said here) that had it not been for the introduction of Palin on the ticket, I would not have voted in 2008.

We’re on the same page here. If romney gets the nod, I’ll sit this one out, even if he picks Palin as his running mate.


12 posted on 01/26/2012 1:08:38 PM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf; sayuncledave
If romney gets the nod, I’ll sit this one out

If the Republican Party is so misguided as to nominate r0mney, please do NOT stay home.

Please show up to vote; vote 3rd party for President, vote for Congress as you see fit, most of all vote as you see fit on local offices and ballot issues. There's ALWAYS more on the ballot than just the President.

13 posted on 01/26/2012 1:15:16 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: cuban leaf

Seconded, friend.


14 posted on 01/26/2012 1:15:37 PM PST by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est (And the Word was made flesh))
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To: ArrogantBustard

—Please show up to vote; vote 3rd party for President, vote for Congress as you see fit, most of all vote as you see fit on local offices and ballot issues. There’s ALWAYS more on the ballot than just the President.—

I keep forgetting to be really clear and someone keeps pointing out the above. ;-)

When I say I’ll sit it out, I mean the presidential part. I might vote third party but I’ll probably write in my own name.


15 posted on 01/26/2012 1:19:10 PM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

I’m always concerned that some folks mean “stay at home” literally. I try to never miss an election on the chance that there’s some tax levy or other dreck on the ballot.


16 posted on 01/26/2012 1:22:33 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: HIDEK6

My mother was wondering the other day how Obama ever got elected when so many Catholics went down for the March for Life.

Answer: those very same people pulled the Democrat lever because their union (or some other form of self-interest) told them to do so.


17 posted on 01/26/2012 1:24:22 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: tcg
"Catholics in the United States are rising up in a Tide of Resistance to the unjust actions and edicts of the Obama Administration," if they're supporting and voting for Newt Gingrich. That would be the American thing to do.


18 posted on 01/26/2012 2:25:03 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: tcg

No true Christian voted or will vote for Obama.


19 posted on 01/26/2012 2:48:57 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: tcg
As a lifelong Catholic and conservative, I would really HOPE this to be true. But, Roman Catholics in the US, while they would be the largest voting block, don't vote together.

Perhaps this will be the catalyst and certainly, many more Catholics are talking about this now and are angry. But, I'm not confident.

Moreover, Catholics, as would many others, may have a difficult time voting for a Mormon.

20 posted on 01/26/2012 2:54:31 PM PST by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Answer: those very same people pulled the Democrat lever because their union (or some other form of self-interest) told them to do so.

I am a regular participant in the March for Life. I don't agree with you. Eevidence obtained by talking with folks there suggests that, quite simply, you are wrong. These are NOT demonicRat voters.

The Catholics at the March (the adults, anyway) are a subset of (for lack of a better term) the "True Believers"; those who believe and practice the Church teachings. "Practice" includes voting.

During a very good year, the March will draw a few hundred thousand folks, mostly Catholics. That's a small subset of the Catholic Population of these United States. It's even a small subset of the about 50% of Catholic voters who regularly vote for Republicans.

21 posted on 01/26/2012 2:57:48 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Solson

Catholics are two voting blocs in these US. One bloc is those for whom “Catholic” describes a faith and a religion which they believe and practice, and which forms the basis of their way of life. These vote primarily for Republicans. The other bloc is those for whom “Catholic” is a secularized cultural identity. They were baptized as children, but do not believe the faith, nor practice the religion, nor allow it to have any particular influence over their lives. These primarily vote for Democrats.


22 posted on 01/26/2012 3:03:36 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: lurk
The Catholics I know personally are Marxists.

Not my parish. The day after Obama was elected, I said a special intention for our President-elect. When I said his name, there was a chorus of boos from my students...6th graders.

It was a teachable, and Kodiak, moment. lol

23 posted on 01/26/2012 3:03:48 PM PST by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
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To: Night Hides Not
Here's another Kodiak Moment for you:


24 posted on 01/26/2012 3:07:08 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: lurk
The Catholics I know personally are Marxists.

Correction: Some people who you know that are Marxists falsely claim to be Catholics.

25 posted on 01/26/2012 3:45:14 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Answer: those very same people pulled the Democrat lever because their union (or some other form of self-interest) told them to do so.

Fecal logic. Catholics who march against Roe v. Wade in the rain don't vote for pro-infanticide candidates.

26 posted on 01/26/2012 3:49:55 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

I think that you are wrong about that. Many, if not most, of the standing-in-the-rain pro-life demonstrator Catholics vote for Democrats. They want high taxes on the rich, to be spent on social services, and they oppose Republican policies on law and order. They support very strong protections for organized labor, high minimum wages, affirmative action and strong regulations. They despise Republicans as war mongers. They stand for complete amnesty for Hispanic illegal aliens. Some pull the lever for pro-choice Democrats as the lesser of two evils ... but many others do so with great enthusiasm.


27 posted on 01/26/2012 4:33:13 PM PST by only1percent
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To: only1percent

How big a demographic do you really think that is?


28 posted on 01/26/2012 4:52:02 PM PST by x
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To: only1percent

How big a demographic do you really think that is? I’m not talking about union-members who might be pro-life and vote Democrat, so much as about these pro-amnesty, pro-affirmative action, anti-law and order, anti-war, pro-life Catholic Democrats. Sounds like a very small group of people, comparatively speaking.


29 posted on 01/26/2012 4:56:08 PM PST by x
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To: tcg
Catholics in the United States are rising up in a Tide of Resistance to the unjust actions and edicts of the Obama Administration.

Do they have any idea Obama will eventually hook or by crook get the Catholic Hospitals to say no mas and exit the Heath Care Market by either closing shop oe selling out?

Do they have any idea what evil comes their way or are they finally waking up?

30 posted on 01/26/2012 5:10:34 PM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: x
No clue about its numerical size ... the point I am making is that the redistributionist / "unrent garment" types are very common among even the politically active clergy and laity.

They all believe that Democrats get it more often right on "whatever you do to the least of me" / Beatitudes issues than do Republicans.

Some of them simply don't regard abortion more important individually than the accumulation of other issues. If you were to offer these people the revocation of Roe vs. Wade the cost of which were reducing food stamps and deportimg illegal aliens, they would turn it down without hesitation. They vote Democrat easily.

Some do regard abortion as more important in theory, but believe it is not legitimately at issue in practice, because they see Republicans as using opposition to abortion to trick religious people into supporting an anti-poor, pro-war agenda that they would otherwise reject. (These people tend to think the same about gay marriage.) Plenty of these people are active conspiracy theorists, where capitalists schemed to make sure that enough of the post-Roe Supreme Court Justices appointed by Republicans would vote to preserve Roe, and the ability to rile up working class Christians indefinitely. The bottom line is that they simply can't regard any Republican as a vehicle for the Catholic social justice theology that for them is the only point of political engagement.
31 posted on 01/26/2012 7:26:37 PM PST by only1percent
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