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Hunting animals to save them?
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Posted on 01/26/2012 3:23:17 PM PST by texas_mrs

You don't have to go to Africa to hunt exotic animals. In fact, Texas may have more of some endangered exotics than live in the wild. That's because breeding them is a billion dollar business in Texas, where over 100 species roam large ranches and can be hunted for sport. The hunters and the ranchers they pay to hunt the trophy animals say the money generated by hunting these animals is helping to save them. They claim only 10 percent of any species can be killed annually. But to animal rights people fighting to shut them down, they're nothing more than slaughter houses. Lara Logan reports on this little known practice on "60 Minutes" Sunday, Jan. 29 at 7 p.m. ET/PT.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: exotics; hunting
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The email to Mr. Seale says they did a balanced piece on this story, which airs Sunday the 29th. I doubt it, but I'll be watching, anyway.
1 posted on 01/26/2012 3:23:23 PM PST by texas_mrs
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To: texas_mrs

I don’t like trophy hunting. To me, it’s immoral to hunt just for the trophy and not for the food. For example, when I hear that somebody has killed the bear and took its gall bladder and nothing else, breaks my heart.

However, I do recognize the principle that hunting makes economic sense and actually helps prevent extinction of a species by creating an economic incentive to keep them around.

That I support.


2 posted on 01/26/2012 3:35:28 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jonty30
I can see where you're coming from, but consider that the carcass you leave is food for the coyotes, if nothing else. Nothing gets wasted in nature, even if you don't use the meat. That said, I can't afford to eat sirloin from the store.
3 posted on 01/26/2012 3:39:11 PM PST by NakedRampage (Puttin' the "stud" in Bible study)
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To: Jonty30

Trophy hunters rarely leave the meat unharvested, and I doubt that there is an epidemic of gall bladder-less bears littering our forests. If you have proofs to the contrary, I’d love to see them.


4 posted on 01/26/2012 3:45:11 PM PST by AnTiw1
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To: NakedRampage

I agree with you there and I don’t have a problem with people hunting for food. Hunting is going to be one of those necessary evils, until the Good Lord recreates the Earth and removes the need to do it.

The least those, who do hunt animals just for the Asian medication (almost total bs, imo) is use the rest of the animal.


5 posted on 01/26/2012 3:46:32 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jonty30

If it wasn’t for trophy hunting in parts of Africa, some countries there would have no economy at all. A typical safari runs around $30,000.


6 posted on 01/26/2012 3:46:52 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: AnTiw1

Poaching of all kinds of animals is a problem. Anybody who says it isn’t is either misinformed or lying.

I don’t care if this article is about 20 years old. If it was a problem back then, it likely still is.

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/05/01/science/boom-in-poaching-threatens-bears-worldwide.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm


7 posted on 01/26/2012 3:56:52 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: AnTiw1
Trophy hunters rarely leave the meat unharvested, and I doubt that there is an epidemic of gall bladder-less bears littering our forests. If you have proofs to the contrary, I?d love to see them.

Well I've heard stories in the West Virginia mountains of cute sows enticing the boars leading them to fermenting blackberry bushes. Poor fellas fall down dead drunk in some flea bag cave, knocked out for the winter. Waking up in the spring with a missing gall bladder and no sows to be found. Sad, sad story.

8 posted on 01/26/2012 3:57:27 PM PST by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Inyo-Mono

That much!? There goes one dream...


9 posted on 01/26/2012 3:57:38 PM PST by NakedRampage (Puttin' the "stud" in Bible study)
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To: Inyo-Mono

Yes. And I said I do understand how trophy hunting actually creates an economic justification for keeping a species alive.

But that doesn’t mean I have to like it. :)


10 posted on 01/26/2012 3:59:32 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jonty30

While hunting is a hush-hush taboo subject in polite America, it is a necessary evil ( if you want to call it evil ). Thousands of people are killed each year due to animal/vehicle collisions. It can be argued that there is more wildlife now than ever before in American History.

Meat is meat: and the more harvested by hunters means less auto/animal collisions.

We are hunter/gatherers by nature; its what God intended. Whether you buy it at Walmart in cellophane or collect it on the road, or kill it and grill it your own bad self: Its what we do.

God gave us animal things to eat and use.

Get over it.

I, the hunter. You can call me Keith. I am of the woods.
God Bless, and Good Day.


11 posted on 01/26/2012 4:05:58 PM PST by waterhill (Keep your boogerhooker off the bangswitch!)
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To: Jonty30

If the times says it’s so it must be true.

Or complete BS.


12 posted on 01/26/2012 4:06:21 PM PST by muddler (Chaos is coming..)
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To: texas_mrs

There is a full frontal assault right now against all high fence hunting. It’s bullshit from anti everything tree huggers. I say let’s legalize hunting activists of all stipes


13 posted on 01/26/2012 4:06:43 PM PST by Figment
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To: waterhill

First, you don’t know God’s intents. In a world that wasn’t originally created to see death, I can’t see God putting that sort of activity as something He’d be enthused about.

Secondly, anything that takes a life is evil, but there are greater evils and lesser evils. Hunting, because it is necessary, would classify as a lesser evil.

As I said, and I’ll say it again for those who either don’t read posts or read them for context, I said my main problem are those who hunt, but don’t use most of the animal.

Dining on the meat and using the fur is a reasonable use of the animal.


14 posted on 01/26/2012 4:13:26 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Iowa Granny; Ladysmith; Diana in Wisconsin; JLO; sergeantdave; damncat; phantomworker; joesnuffy; ..
If you’d like to be on or off this Outdoors/Rural/wildlife/hunting/hiking/backpacking/National Parks/animals list please FR mail me. And ping me is you see articles of interest.

It's not for me, but as long as the meat is used if Joe Blow thinks he's a great white hunter shooting an oryx in Texas, that's his issue.

15 posted on 01/26/2012 4:16:33 PM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims¬óDoing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do !)
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To: NakedRampage

I can set you up with a safari for a lot less, depending on the trophies you want.sang


16 posted on 01/26/2012 4:18:04 PM PST by Glennb51
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To: NakedRampage

I can set you up with a safari for a lot less, depending on the trophies you want.sang


17 posted on 01/26/2012 4:18:10 PM PST by Glennb51
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To: Inyo-Mono
I guess I will cross off "safari in Africa" from my "what to do for summer vacation in 2012" list.

Maybe squirrel hunting in Kentucky would be within my budget.

18 posted on 01/26/2012 4:19:13 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: texas_mrs

The last deer I shot was in December..a 65-75 lb. corn-fed doe about 5 years old. I enjoy the outdoors, observing animals, friends, cold clear mornings.... appreciate the feel, accuracy and heft of my rifle (in this case a 22-250. I enjoy the shot and do everything I can to insure an instant kill of the game I shoot. This last deer I dropped immediately with a neck shot but it took more time that I would have liked for her to expire (bleed out as they say —a full 10 minutes that seemed forever). This deer provided backstrap, sausage, hamburger etc. that I will use the rest of the year as a meat supplement. As a friend agreed, we hate the killing and the animal agony (when it occurs), but wonder what goes on in the feedlot and processing plants. I am guessing much worse in the scheme of things.


19 posted on 01/26/2012 4:21:06 PM PST by yetidog
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To: Covenantor

LOL


20 posted on 01/26/2012 4:21:34 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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