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Live Thread: Republican Presidential Debate in Jacksonville, FL on CNN 8 P.M. EST
Thursday, January 26, 2012 | Kristinn

Posted on 01/26/2012 3:56:03 PM PST by kristinn

Hosted by Wolf Blitzer at the University of North Florida in Jacksonville. Candidates: Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum and Ron Paul.

Word is the audience will be "allowed" to participate.

Livestream here.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; 2012gopprimary; debate; fl2012; gingrich4america; gopdebate; livefladebate; liveflaprimarydebate; livegopdebate; patriotgingrich; rinoromney; romney4romney; santorum
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To: Proud2BeRight

NO. In fact, I didn’t shake Romney’s hand when he offered it!


1,751 posted on 01/26/2012 7:22:39 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: Exton1

Don’t waste your time. Of course you need to differentiate yourself when the entire media keeps pressing that this is a two person race. He came out strong tonight and did well. We’ll see how that carries over.


1,752 posted on 01/26/2012 7:22:59 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: StarFan

He stated some painful truths, particularly about the Global Warming hoax. How is that an attack?


1,753 posted on 01/26/2012 7:23:10 PM PST by AnnGora (I'm suing my tagline for sexual harrassment.)
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To: All

Santorum had his best debate performance to date. Based on low expectations I would say he won tonight. Romney did well but he did not get the knockout he needed to stop Newts momentum. Newt blew the Reagan stuff out of the water but the moon base stuff seems silly. Paul was laid back and funny at times but did not win over the crowd.

Final grades:

Santorum B
Romney B-
Newt C+
Paul C

Florida prediction:

Newt 35
Romney 33
Santorum 22
Paul 10


1,754 posted on 01/26/2012 7:23:10 PM PST by icwhatudo (iF)
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To: Old Sarge

Yul Brynner was the best!


1,755 posted on 01/26/2012 7:23:14 PM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: TitansAFC

Santorum is a social conservative. He has not been hit and attacked as much as Newt. Yes, the audience was stacked. Florida is not the “southern” state it used to be..it is a mix of cultures, yankees and southerners. The media talking heads saying Newt did not do well..not much on Romney. I am sorry but if Santorum would have got OUT...Newt would have won Fla. Santorum is NOT going to win any state other than Iowa.


1,756 posted on 01/26/2012 7:23:17 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: caww
If Romney wins, it won't just be because he was in the race. If Newt was on his game, he could have given himself the necessary momentum to win Florida.

I'm very upset with Newt right now. I typically send my candidate of choice a donation after a debate, but tonight, I'm holding off.
1,757 posted on 01/26/2012 7:23:23 PM PST by Cato in PA (Alas, poor Mittens! We knew him too well.)
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To: Leep

Santorum on w/ CNN — just refuses to drop out.

I understand if he debated well ...and that’s great — but this is about winning an election.

I will lose all respect for this man if he continues to siphon votes from Newt. He’s nothing but an egotistical, self-centered putz.


1,758 posted on 01/26/2012 7:23:28 PM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: kevao

Didn’t Dick Morris say Romney won South Carolina?


1,759 posted on 01/26/2012 7:23:31 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: onyx
Romney is always rehearsed.

Heck, he's got every establishment former _______________ coaching him. Who wouldn't be "rehearsed"?

1,760 posted on 01/26/2012 7:23:34 PM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: onyx

He seemed even more so tonight. Like he knew what was coming.


1,761 posted on 01/26/2012 7:23:40 PM PST by freemarketsfreeminds
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To: AUTiger83

Yes, sir. Santorum kicked butt.


1,762 posted on 01/26/2012 7:23:53 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: onyx

CNN is saying the “other” win tonight was Wolf for taking on Newt and not letting him get the upper hand.

Do we really need any more proof the media is apposing Newt....they armed Romney tonight, and obviously so.


1,763 posted on 01/26/2012 7:23:53 PM PST by caww
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To: AUTiger83

Newt has 5 days of speeches and ads to bring that B to an A+


1,764 posted on 01/26/2012 7:24:01 PM PST by tsowellfan (https://twitter.com/cafenetamerica)
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To: advertising guy
it's late, I've imbibed

If you were drinking through all this you had far more fun than most of the rest of us

1,765 posted on 01/26/2012 7:24:07 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: AnnGora
And I think you are nuts. To some people their purpose for living is to make their children and grandchildren lives better. Unfortunately our current crop of rulers intend in making out children and grand-children’s future like some third world .ellhole.
1,766 posted on 01/26/2012 7:24:18 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: jwalsh07
He has gotten the whine thing well under control

Did you hear his close?

1,767 posted on 01/26/2012 7:24:55 PM PST by StarFan
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To: Cboldt

He is staying in long enough to hurt Newt


1,768 posted on 01/26/2012 7:24:56 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: katiedidit1
Newt gave an excellent answer. I do everything to create a better America for my (grand)children.

Agree completely.

Here is what I posted earlier today on another thread about that very point, and why I, therefore, support Newt Gingrich.

Today was a big game for Rush ...defend Newt ...attack Romney ....defend Romney ....attack Newt ...etc., etc. He even referred to this as a variation of "Operation Chaos," to somehow help get a Republican nominated. Not sure I'm clever enough to follow the argument.

I'm reminded of something I learned long ago about telling a joke; if you have to explain the punch line it ain't that funny.

For me, what nails this all down is asking why we are fighting this battle? Indeed, I ask that of all my fellow FReepers. Now I'm probably going to sound a little harsh, but here's my take...

Rush has no children or grandchildren.

That's it. To me, that's the crux of the argument. Rush has a much nicer home and jet than I will ever dream of owning. Heck, I'm 64 and I will probably never even visit a home as nice as his or ride a someone's personally owned jet. I don't begrudge him that. He's earned it, and I wish him well.

But I don't think Rush has my deep-down, way down in the gut, concern for my kids and grandkids. That's why I'm in this battle for the soul of America. At 64, I'm probably going to be okay. I put a little away in the 401K and the wife and I have lived within our means for the past 25 years, avoiding spending money we did not have.

But my five grandkids are being straddled with debt they cannot hope to pay, and I have literally shed tears for what we are doing to them.

So for me, this isn't a fight about "my guy" versus "your guy," or even moderate versus conservative, it's about who is going to stop this madness before it's too late.

Romney is a "finger in the wind" politician who will move which ever way the winds blow. I put as much stock in his words as I did (now with hindsight) when George Herbert Walker Bush said, "Read my lips. No new taxes."

Newt claims he's doing this because of his two grandchildren. I'm taking him at his word. I do so, because when he talks about his grandchildren, and his concern for the future we are making for them, he sounds just like me.

Rush has his cats, and his jet, and golf outings to die for, but at the end of the day he has no compelling reason to look out two or three or four decades. I do. My five grandchildren give me that opportunity every day.

1,769 posted on 01/26/2012 7:25:09 PM PST by The Citizen Soldier (America needs Gingrich in 2012 about as much as England needed Churchill in 1940!)
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To: Gator113

Exactly. CNN knew they couldn’t let the audience get in it for Newt and after the NBC funeral debate with Newt saying he would not debate if the audience was not allowed to react, they let the audience react but stacked it for Romney. Diabolical.


1,770 posted on 01/26/2012 7:25:14 PM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: katiedidit1

I am counting on Newt’s ground game. Those stump speeches of his are not falling on deaf ears and there remains the chance for a BACKFIRE not only on today’s news headlines, but also this debate AND its stacked audience full of Brigham Young undergrads, I suspect.


1,771 posted on 01/26/2012 7:25:26 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. NEWT 2012 / Rick Bachmann=Tool of the RINO/Romney backers)
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To: Exton1

Santorum attacked them and he did a damn good job of it. Every analyst I am hearing is saying Newt didn’t have the night he needed, and Santorum did great. I think Santorum just ruined Newt in Florida.


1,772 posted on 01/26/2012 7:25:32 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Vision

Santorum will probably be president someday. After he dies, he will president of his own planet. Ask Mitt.


1,773 posted on 01/26/2012 7:25:46 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (and I will go to southern Maine to campaign.)
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To: SgtBob

Muah!


1,774 posted on 01/26/2012 7:25:53 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: writer33

Of course the establishmedia is going to say their guy won and Newt lost. To say Mitt won that is a bigger stretch than him not watching any of his commercials!


1,775 posted on 01/26/2012 7:26:08 PM PST by bray (More Batting Practice for the Bambino)
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To: Red Steel
Didn’t Dick Morris say Romney won South Carolina?

Yes, he said Romney will win SC the day before Newt won it. (And with Newt way up in the polls already).

Haven't listened to him since.

1,776 posted on 01/26/2012 7:26:21 PM PST by tsowellfan (https://twitter.com/cafenetamerica)
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To: womanvet

Sad thing is you probably didn’t miss too much.


1,777 posted on 01/26/2012 7:26:27 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: onyx

You remain one of my favorites on FR.... great ATTITUDE!

GO NEWT GO......


1,778 posted on 01/26/2012 7:26:27 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO.....!)
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To: All
"All of my recipes are crazy good! You'll love them all!"


1,779 posted on 01/26/2012 7:26:49 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: icwhatudo
I'm thinking this thing could end in in a brokered convention.

Alabama, "I say, I say there the great state of Alabama casts 16 votes for the next President of the United States, Newt Gingrich, 4 votes for, etc., etc.

1,780 posted on 01/26/2012 7:27:03 PM PST by AGreatPer (Obama has NEVER given a speech where he did not lie!!!)
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To: LibsRJerks

Why should Rick drop out? He is running to be President, just like Newt and Mitt and RuPaul. He isn’t running just to get votes from Newt.

Why doesn’t Newt drop out and support Santorum?


1,781 posted on 01/26/2012 7:27:03 PM PST by AnnGora (I'm suing my tagline for sexual harrassment.)
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To: kristinn

Wolf Blitzer and Anderson Cooper, and Ari Fleisher praising Mitt Romney.

Talk about the testosterone challenged praising the testosterone challenged.

CNN show me some Testosterone give Donna Brazille a chance.


1,782 posted on 01/26/2012 7:27:15 PM PST by Biblebelter
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To: Warthog-2
Santorum is being interviewed with his mom at his side. She was his lucky charm tonight.

I'm conflicted here. I think Santorum is probably the most consistent conservative up there, but for him to gain traction will split the conservative vote between him and Newt - throwing the nomination to Romney.

1,783 posted on 01/26/2012 7:27:21 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: Red Steel

Romney - you saw the support in this audience.

Yeah, bussed in stacked audience by CNN.

Honestly, there really is no difference between willard and obozo


1,784 posted on 01/26/2012 7:27:21 PM PST by billys kid (Everything in Massachusetts is illegal)
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To: dragnet2
For those paying attention, Newt appeared weak tonight.

I agree Newt had some weak answers, but I think he had some good answers too and an overall neutral night. I thought Romney looked smarmy but the post-debate spin is that he "beat Gingrich" so...

1,785 posted on 01/26/2012 7:27:21 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: suijuris

Really? All I rember him saying was “I’ll fix America.”. I expect to hear that from Obama not a Republican candiates. America doesn’t need fixing by some liberal politician. We need politicians to get out of our way!


1,786 posted on 01/26/2012 7:27:59 PM PST by KansasGirl (GO NEWT! NO ROMNEY!)
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To: dragnet2
It wasn't Newt's best, but it was far from 'weak'.

Rombama came across as the same grasping pandering slimeball that lives inside him.
Enough of FL prolly has enough sense left to see that.

You're just wrong this time .. honest.

1,787 posted on 01/26/2012 7:28:18 PM PST by tomkat (+1 for the white-haired smart guy)
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To: StarFan

You bet. He drew honest contrasts between himself and the others and you didn’t like it because your guy got gored. Too bad.


1,788 posted on 01/26/2012 7:28:20 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: angelcindy

first off you are interruptin my drinkin with way too many 6’s in your howdy and 2nd...that poll I just voted in is as accurate as the right now temperature on Mars, five miles deep.

lololol


1,789 posted on 01/26/2012 7:28:20 PM PST by advertising guy (piss on the media like a Marine !)
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To: mylife

The recipes are full of nuts.


1,790 posted on 01/26/2012 7:28:20 PM PST by FreedomProtector
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To: icwhatudo

Good post on grades and predictions for tuesday.

Question: Did you make a prediction for SC? If so, how close were you?


1,791 posted on 01/26/2012 7:28:30 PM PST by tsowellfan (https://twitter.com/cafenetamerica)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Roaring on the floor LOL’ing!
Post of the Year!!!!!


1,792 posted on 01/26/2012 7:28:38 PM PST by acapesket
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To: bray

Anyone with any sense of reality knows Mitt didn’t win that debate.


1,793 posted on 01/26/2012 7:28:50 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: jpsb

LOL. Thanks for the laugh. I was intently reading comments/analysis and your post popped up. Reminded me of the joke screen that says watch this dot closely and then the excorsist chick pops up and makes you jump! Forgot elections in these United States are always a preppers barometetor LOL...i think

watch this dot closely for 30 seconds..........AGGGGGGGGHHHH Get Guns!!


1,794 posted on 01/26/2012 7:28:58 PM PST by wombtotomb
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To: freemarketsfreeminds

Brett O’Donnell, who served as one of Michele Bachmann’s top strategists, is Milt’s new debate coach. Swell.


1,795 posted on 01/26/2012 7:29:07 PM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: FreedomProtector

Yup!


1,796 posted on 01/26/2012 7:29:13 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: KansasGirl
I think Santorum did the best tonight, made the biggest upward move compared to his pre-debate position.

Romney had his best debate so far, and scored some serious blows to Newt. (Doesn't change the fact that I despise him, and he comes across as a whiney “poor me” candidate.)

Newt did “ok” but not his usual outstanding performance.

Ron Paul didn't do too bad.

The audience was extremely stacked for Romney.

Blitzer couldn't seem to ask more than a single question without that didn't try to bait Newt and Romney against each other, specifically attacking Newt.

And it was quite telling that Blitzer made a big deal out of the last question being a question that was going to include, gasp, “Barack Obama.” Can you imagine? Asking a question relevant to the General election?? Amazing.

1,797 posted on 01/26/2012 7:29:19 PM PST by BagCamAddict (THANK YOU GOVERNOR PERRY for doing the right thing. GO NEWT !!)
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To: KansasGirl

Santorum did very well tonite. Made some good points, and tried to stick to substance. I thought he lost his composure a bit in the exchange with Romney on Healthcare. But otherwise one of his better debates. Liked his stance on the space program. And liked that he tried to get the debate back to substance.

Paul - one of his better debates. He is really good on economic issues. And tonite there wasn’t too much on foreign policy, so he didn’t seem to wacky. And he always makes the debates fun. Pokes fun at everyone. And defuses the tension at times.

Romney - pretty good debate. Had Newt rocked back early in the debate. Biggest debate stumble was not knowing about the ad on ghetto slur. He won the exchange on Fannie and Freddie.

Newt - had some good moments. Looked very unhappy at the start of the debate. Let Romney get in some good blows, especially early. And I was surprised that Newt served up a couple softballs for Romney and Paul to hit him on. But a great closing.

Debate - started good. I liked it that all of them are taking the “Newtster” approach to hit back at stupid media questions. (King, now Blitzer - hooray) Last half of the debate, was OK, but almost too civil. Question that will be answered over the weekend if Newt did enough to stop Romney’s latest surge in Florida? And Santorum’s good performance could impact who wins between Newt and Mitt. And all the early voting is a wild card. Both Mitt and Newt have had poll surges during the early voting. So who knows?

I hope all 4 get back to issues and quit the personal back and forth stuff. Lets focus on Obama, and now minutia which won’t matter in November.


1,798 posted on 01/26/2012 7:29:23 PM PST by gswilder
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To: bray

In Fla our real estate is worthless,we have 25% unemployment in S. fla. endless crime, bars on all homes and buisnesses,spanish the first language—yeah its terriffic.


1,799 posted on 01/26/2012 7:29:27 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: writer33

Who said Mitt won? Santorum planted him.


1,800 posted on 01/26/2012 7:30:50 PM PST by jwalsh07
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