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Live Thread: Republican Presidential Debate in Jacksonville, FL on CNN 8 P.M. EST
Thursday, January 26, 2012 | Kristinn

Posted on 01/26/2012 3:56:03 PM PST by kristinn

Hosted by Wolf Blitzer at the University of North Florida in Jacksonville. Candidates: Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum and Ron Paul.

Word is the audience will be "allowed" to participate.

Livestream here.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; 2012gopprimary; debate; fl2012; gingrich4america; gopdebate; livefladebate; liveflaprimarydebate; livegopdebate; patriotgingrich; rinoromney; romney4romney; santorum
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To: FreeReign

Don’t even get me started ‘bout Mr. big-government Santorum ...

I liked his answer. That doesn’t mean I believe he’ll govern in accordance with his answer.


1,801 posted on 01/26/2012 7:30:52 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: writer33

CNN post debate spin crew are the Baghdad Bob of television!


1,802 posted on 01/26/2012 7:31:02 PM PST by MagUSNRET (I have always been proud of my country, it is my government that embarrasses the hell out of me!)
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To: rodguy911

Tim Paulenty cheering Romney on and on and on. ...to the point of ridiculous.....

Fred T. asked why is he for Newt....”Says cause of the condition of the country...we are at a tipping point...Obama taking us in direction of Europe...we need someone who is substitive, can articulate issues and take it to Obama. Newt is the guy who can carry the mail....Mitt was behind so pulled out all the stops and went after Newt”.


1,803 posted on 01/26/2012 7:31:23 PM PST by caww
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To: All; BagCamAddict
On the post-debate Donna said Santorum was good and Newt was "flat" and facing a lot of "headwind."

Fleischer defends his boy Romney on the fact checked Romney ad. Anderson suggests the ad is accurate even if Newt didn't say what the ad claimed he said. So transparent.

Wolfie and Coop' talking about Newt being "flat."

I don't see how stating fact about where Romney's had money kept in a Swiss account and the Caymen Islands is "charge" or "serious allegation."

Everyone thinks Romney walks on water, seem to predict he'll take FL.

I dread they are correct. This was not Newt's best night. With Santorum giving up on FL but not dropping out, I don't see Newt pulling off back-to-back wins.

With winner-take-all FL's 50 delegates, Romney gets back on track with inevitability a sweeps through the friendly states like Mormon-heavy Nevada and his birth state of Michigan in February.

1,804 posted on 01/26/2012 7:31:37 PM PST by newzjunkey (a FL win returns Romney to the "inevitability" path.)
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To: jwalsh07

CNN spinmasters are saying Mitt took it to Newt, but they all said Santorum did well. They just can’t say he won the debate. He was the clear winner.


1,805 posted on 01/26/2012 7:31:51 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: billys kid

Can it be verified that busloads were brought in from the Romney camp?

Are there photos or videotape of these people and these busses?

I heard lots of shouts and applause for Ron Paul too.

Did he bus in his people?


1,806 posted on 01/26/2012 7:31:51 PM PST by Warthog-2 (Character Counts)
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To: Exton1
What is this Santorum bashing?

He endorsed Specter over Toomey eight years ago. Supporting a RINO over a true conservative is an inexcusable death-penalty offense. Unless that RINO is Dede Scozzafava. Then it's forgotten in less than two years.

1,807 posted on 01/26/2012 7:32:04 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: MissMagnolia

Actualy my guess is since the Florida Republican Committee sponsored the debate, we know who got a lot of the other 2200 seats...the FL GOP-E.


1,808 posted on 01/26/2012 7:32:07 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: MagUSNRET

I am shocked to see Ari Fleischer on the panel.


1,809 posted on 01/26/2012 7:32:15 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: freemarketsfreeminds

Agreed good post,we have to do more with the New Media if we want any level of fairness. We sure as hell won’t get it with the drivebys.


1,810 posted on 01/26/2012 7:32:30 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: mylife

Cool. Cookbook !


1,811 posted on 01/26/2012 7:32:39 PM PST by gswilder
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To: PMAS

Which one of his advisors said no way to appealing ObamaCare ?
link please if you have

Norm Coleman. I don’t have a link, but it was on FR.


1,812 posted on 01/26/2012 7:32:54 PM PST by KansasGirl (GO NEWT! NO ROMNEY!)
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To: rodguy911
it's late, I've imbibed

If you were drinking through all this you had far more fun than most of the rest of us

1,813 posted on 01/26/2012 7:33:00 PM PST by CurlyBill (1-20-13 can't get here fast enough!)
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To: Just mythoughts

the line “for the children” has become a joke. Surely you know that by now. Get real. It’s pandering.


1,814 posted on 01/26/2012 7:33:00 PM PST by AnnGora (I'm suing my tagline for sexual harrassment.)
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To: acapesket
I tried to learn Spanish, but I just can't roll my tongue very well.
1,815 posted on 01/26/2012 7:33:19 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Liberals, Useful Idiots Voting for Useless Idiots...)
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To: Warthog-2

Donna Brazille is looking ill. She is either sick or on one heck of a weight loss program. Maybe she is a lot older than I think.


1,816 posted on 01/26/2012 7:33:25 PM PST by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: tomkat
You're just wrong this time .. honest.

Hey, lets not get crazy TK....lol

Well, maybe "Off his game" would have been a better description.

1,817 posted on 01/26/2012 7:33:54 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: BagCamAddict
Newt did “ok” but not his usual outstanding performance

I know what you mean but I think we also have to look at what was being asked for questions.

Newt does best on questions about policy. Many of the questions were to pin him and Romney against each other based on ads and attacks or why would your wife make a good first lady.

1,818 posted on 01/26/2012 7:33:57 PM PST by tsowellfan (https://twitter.com/cafenetamerica)
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To: AnnGora
"the children" have parents and grandparents watching who KNOW exactly what is at stake...I have told people that the reason I bother to be politically involved is for my child and grandchildren, nieces and nephews....and I REFUSE to let Clintonian political gaming define what I'm for...just because they use it doesn't mean it is not valid and meaningful.
1,819 posted on 01/26/2012 7:34:17 PM PST by goodnesswins (2012..."We mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor")
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To: gswilder

The thinnest cookbook ever written! 28 pages.


1,820 posted on 01/26/2012 7:34:20 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: writer33

Oh, you listen to them? God bless ya for He knows how tough a job that is! :-)


1,821 posted on 01/26/2012 7:34:32 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: caww

Romney may have a shot at buying the election.If he can saturate the air waves in every state with lies like he did here in Floriduh it could happen.The country has an ignorant voter base,we maybe doomed.


1,822 posted on 01/26/2012 7:34:32 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: writer33

Mitt got his lunch handed to him by Rick on the Romneycare. If the voters are supposed to ignore that then they really are blind.
It’s CNN.


1,823 posted on 01/26/2012 7:34:42 PM PST by bray (More Batting Practice for the Bambino)
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To: gswilder

I just don’t how we (Newt) get to “focus on Obama”, if we fail to take on Romney first, which in so doing would hand Romney the victory. Nobody beats Romney without a punch, because his opposition research operation swamps the rest. After all, Newt is enduring a full frontal assault right now and must be seen standing ground and fighting back.


1,824 posted on 01/26/2012 7:35:15 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. NEWT 2012 / Rick Bachmann=Tool of the RINO/Romney backers)
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To: B Knotts

I would agree with you on that.


1,825 posted on 01/26/2012 7:35:40 PM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: The Citizen Soldier

Very well said. Rush and Coulter..no children involved. We all know the mess this country is in and what our children and grandchildren will face. The greatest generation left behind a great country full of opportunity. What happened? I like Newt because he has a genuine concern for the children of America. He spoke in the past of teens going to work...the work ethic; English as our official language. He is the anti gop establishment candidate and our hope to revive this nation. God help us if Romney wins.


1,826 posted on 01/26/2012 7:35:43 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: jwalsh07

No, I finally told my wife to turn the channel to FOX so we had a chance to get something more accurate on analysis.


1,827 posted on 01/26/2012 7:35:50 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: PMAS

Something called “Temple Garments,” I think.


1,828 posted on 01/26/2012 7:36:05 PM PST by ponygirl
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

His excuse for supporting Specter over Toomey was Specter agreeing to back the justices being brought to the supreem court.......not that that is a good excuse. Specter was ranking minority member....I think....someone correct me on this.....????


1,829 posted on 01/26/2012 7:36:13 PM PST by superfries
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To: katiedidit1

Why is the GOP establishment so afraid of nominating conservatives? The dems aren’t afraid to nominate flaming liberals.


1,830 posted on 01/26/2012 7:36:59 PM PST by sandshark222
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To: writer33
Anyone with any sense of reality knows Mitt didn’t win that debate.

Mittens' "11 million grandmothers" quip absolutely shredded Newt - who asked for it with his colossally stupid, pandering appearance with Jorge Ramos on Univision. Newt's immigration stances are preposterous, and are slowly undermining him. Once his Florida panderfest is over, he had better change his tune, and fast.

1,831 posted on 01/26/2012 7:36:59 PM PST by montag813
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To: kristinn
The conventional wisdom expressed by the post debate pundits on both CNN and on Fox have it right: Newt did not win the debate, he was hurt tonight. Romney's cause was advanced.

Although Santorum performed remarkably well, any advance by Santorum in the vote count comes out of Gingrich's score. Therefore, a good debate by Santorum such as we saw tonight hurts Gingrich.

Romney did very well on theatrics and that is of vital importance in this context. Gingrich's argument is that he can out debate Obama and that means that he must be able to out debate both Santorum and Romney. A tie is a loss.

Finally, Gingrich went into the debate tonight requiring a turnaround performance and he did not deliver. He will lose momentum in Florida.

Full disclosure I am one of the earliest supporters of Gingrich on these threads. My observations are just that, reporting what I saw, not what I wish to have seen.


1,832 posted on 01/26/2012 7:37:05 PM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: goodnesswins

Newt should have stated it exactly as you just did. Instead, he said “I’m doing it for my children.” Again, lame. Sounds automatic and pandering. Billy Jeff Clinton on a typical, lip biting day.


1,833 posted on 01/26/2012 7:37:05 PM PST by AnnGora (I'm suing my tagline for sexual harrassment.)
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To: Tribune7

Santorum is a flat-out liar when he says Newt has been for an individual mandate for 20 years. Newt has talked about many things to help fix health care. Santorum makes it sound like Newt and Willard are on the same level with socialized
medicine. Santorum will say and do anything to make himself look good. In that regard he would make a good running mate for the lying sneaky SOB Romney, whose the phoniest, fakest SOB this side of the moon. Just another filthy rich liberal trying to buy the nomination. Does the names John McCain come to mind. Guess what. He lost.


1,834 posted on 01/26/2012 7:37:05 PM PST by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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To: rodguy911
"YOu could have slept though the entire debate and not missed much...."

Exactly what I did! Trying to catch up now. Sounds like Mith may have had a good night - I hope not!

1,835 posted on 01/26/2012 7:37:09 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: AnnGora
the line “for the children” has become a joke. Surely you know that by now. Get real. It’s pandering.

You have a hearing problem. He said it was about his grandchildren. I guess it is possible in some warped world to pander to ones own grandchildren.

1,836 posted on 01/26/2012 7:37:28 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: mylife
Newt showed a pair on the palestinian question.

Notice how Wolf presented the question to Romney..."Lets ask Gov. Romney first of all what would you say to Abraham?" Afterwards Wolf then follows with "Thank you Governor"

Newt's Turn...Wolf prefaces the question "Speaker Gingrich you got into a little hot water when you said the Palestinians were an invented people" Newt nails the answer and Wolf interrupts the audience applause with..."Lets go to Miami"

Fair???? This crap was going on all night!

1,837 posted on 01/26/2012 7:37:54 PM PST by topfile
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To: Cato in PA

How was Romney the clear winner? Santorum cleaned his clock tonight. By the way, even those on CNN said afterward there was no clear winner.


1,838 posted on 01/26/2012 7:38:08 PM PST by Southnsoul
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To: Cato in PA
Remember Romney got his ass handed to him in a couple debates, and he was considering not doing any more debates, and he was slow to confirm he was doing the Florida debates.

Wouldn't surprise me one bit if he only agreed to do these debates after he got the audience taken out of the first debate, and after he (or his Super PAC) BOUGHT 2200 seats in the 3000-seat auditorium for this debate.

He may not be ethical, but he knows how to spend money to stack the deck in his favor.

1,839 posted on 01/26/2012 7:38:10 PM PST by BagCamAddict (THANK YOU GOVERNOR PERRY for doing the right thing. GO NEWT !!)
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To: kristinn

Santorum and Paul did well tonight.


1,840 posted on 01/26/2012 7:38:17 PM PST by CrosscutSaw (Palin/West after brokered GOP convention in 2012.)
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To: crymeariver

*pffffffffffft* IF, and that is a big IF, Mitt gets the nod, he will be savaged in the general by this very media that is propping him up. He won’t even win his own state.


1,841 posted on 01/26/2012 7:38:17 PM PST by Shelayne
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To: MissMagnolia

Why aren’t they talking about the government gun runners, how about solyndra, the troops dying in Afghanistan, gitmo, failing educational system, keystone pipeline, fuel prices, and the list goes on. Instead they are baited against each other, and then to top it off, they are asked why their wives would make good first ladies. Disgusting.


1,842 posted on 01/26/2012 7:38:31 PM PST by Toespi
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To: All
My report card:

Santorum - (A-) far and away his best debate, energized, passionate.

Newt - (B+) deck clearly stacked against him but gave reasoned answers to most questions

Romney - (B-) started strong (well-rehearsed) but stumbled on blind trust and Reagan support

Paul - (C-) was there and occasionally witty but no strong answers on any question of substance

Predictions for Florida:

Newt - 38%
Romney - 34%
Santorum - 18%
Paul - 9%
Others - 1%

1,843 posted on 01/26/2012 7:38:31 PM PST by The Citizen Soldier (America needs Gingrich in 2012 about as much as England needed Churchill in 1940!)
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To: dragnet2
Fair enough  

Either way, I'm just glad the damned thing's over .. LOL

1,844 posted on 01/26/2012 7:38:45 PM PST by tomkat (+1 for the white-haired smart guy)
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To: caww

I tried to get tickets for this debate as it is near me.
I was told off the GOP lady that there were 3,000 seats but only 800 tickets went out.

Now who got those tickets less than 800, I heard and I am betting Romney establishment stooges to cheer him.

Disgusting how they have come after Newt instead of staying out of this.


1,845 posted on 01/26/2012 7:39:00 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: montag813
Once his Florida panderfest is over, he had better change his tune, and fast.

Yes, sir, because it won't fly anywhere else.

1,846 posted on 01/26/2012 7:39:25 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: Pravious
Could be that Drudge is just trying to put some Newt dirt out there so that some thought may cross your mind (now) as to what Obama will do with the same dirt....
1,847 posted on 01/26/2012 7:39:31 PM PST by RedhairRedhair (I STILL love my (scab made) Toyota)
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To: PMAS

http://www.mormon-underwear.com/mormon_underwear.html


1,848 posted on 01/26/2012 7:39:45 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: writer33

Well bless your wife then for saving your brain from turning to mush. Wolf and Cooper aren’t exactly Thomas Paine and Tom Clancy.


1,849 posted on 01/26/2012 7:40:21 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: rodguy911
"Romney may have a shot at buying the election"

Boy did you hit that one on the head.

His money dwarfs everyone else.

1,850 posted on 01/26/2012 7:40:21 PM PST by AGreatPer (Obama has NEVER given a speech where he did not lie!!!)
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