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Live Thread: Republican Presidential Debate in Jacksonville, FL on CNN 8 P.M. EST
Thursday, January 26, 2012 | Kristinn

Posted on 01/26/2012 3:56:03 PM PST by kristinn

Hosted by Wolf Blitzer at the University of North Florida in Jacksonville. Candidates: Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum and Ron Paul.

Word is the audience will be "allowed" to participate.

Livestream here.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; 2012gopprimary; debate; fl2012; gingrich4america; gopdebate; livefladebate; liveflaprimarydebate; livegopdebate; patriotgingrich; rinoromney; romney4romney; santorum
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To: writer33

Talking head on CNN - guy with gray hair & mustache (don’t know who he is) just said Newt has NO debating skills, NO warmth, & is a one-trick pony. Nah, CNN is not in the bag for Romney.


1,951 posted on 01/26/2012 7:58:02 PM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: KansasGirl

Apparently your reply was supposed to be directed at someone else because they sure don’t match anything I said.


1,952 posted on 01/26/2012 7:58:15 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: BagCamAddict

I live near here and tried to get tickets.
We were told that only 800 out of 3000 were out for the likes of us.

The establishment took the rest, meaning 2,200 in the crowd.

It was a woman form the Duval county GOP who told us this , right from them.


1,953 posted on 01/26/2012 7:58:22 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: AnnGora

I’m totally for Rick after tonight. If he takes it to Obama like he did to Romney, he can win. He’s right that he’s a true conservative and can best make those contrasts with Obama.

I also loved when he said we have to look at the situation realistically and it’s not pretty. It’s going to take some work and sacrifice to save our country.


1,954 posted on 01/26/2012 7:58:41 PM PST by Kenny
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To: jwalsh07

Have a good one as well. And I can’t wait for baseball to get going again. :-)


1,955 posted on 01/26/2012 7:59:02 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: rodguy911

Hey RG, how do you think Newt did to Floridians in this debate and his campaign in general down there?


1,956 posted on 01/26/2012 7:59:20 PM PST by bray (More Batting Practice for the Bambino)
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To: Bronzy

Just voted:

Thank you for voting!
GINGRICH 18.95% (9,243 votes)

PAUL 35.82% (17,469 votes)

ROMNEY 28.34% (13,819 votes)

SANTORUM 16.88% (8,233 votes)

Total Votes: 48,764


1,957 posted on 01/26/2012 7:59:35 PM PST by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking"..J.C. Watts)
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To: sandshark222

Why is the GOP establishment so afraid of nominating conservatives? The dems aren’t afraid to nominate flaming liberals.


Because the Liberals drive the tractor to kill America, intentionally. ‘A Republic if you can keep it’ was good
for 150 years.


1,958 posted on 01/26/2012 7:59:52 PM PST by txhurl
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To: altura

That’s Brother LOL


1,959 posted on 01/26/2012 7:59:52 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: tsowellfan

He llied. He tried to make it sound as though he wasn’t involved in politics at the time. HE WAS RUNNING FOR A SENATE SEAT when he said he didn’t want a return to the Reagan era. Does anyone seriously believe he didn’t know who Reagan was at the time?


1,960 posted on 01/26/2012 8:00:03 PM PST by freemarketsfreeminds
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To: manc
Just make Puerto Rico the Palestinian State and everyone will be happy.

Wonder what Allah Akbar would sound like in a Spanish accent?

Zionists, we don't need no stinking Zionists.

1,961 posted on 01/26/2012 8:00:11 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Liberals, Useful Idiots Voting for Useless Idiots...)
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To: MissMagnolia

Now we know they’re taking some illicit narcotics over there at CNN. Newt’s biggest strength is his debate skills.


1,962 posted on 01/26/2012 8:00:21 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: Exton1

I know why Rick did what he did, I was just being facetious. See post #1928.


1,963 posted on 01/26/2012 8:00:42 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: rbmillerjr

agree Sarah has to get out here before we elect as the attacks have the sheep thinking it is true.

What a slimeball Romney is and the establishment, they lie and lie, sickening


1,964 posted on 01/26/2012 8:00:42 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: Exton1
Either Mr. Santorum or Mr. Gingrich holding that bible next January on the west front of the Capitol, with Obama and Michelle sitting their with huge, royally p*ssed off frowns with streaks of tears on their two faces? Man, I'll take it. We'd start drinking early here (actually, it would be something like 2:00 a.m. our time in Japan). Hell I'd probably even be satisfied with a "President Ron Paul" taking the oath of office from the Chief Justice. (I can't believe I just said that!! I guess Obama is that bad for our country and our future).
1,965 posted on 01/26/2012 8:01:12 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Hooray for Governor Jan Brewer. Poster girl for American Courage. I love this woman, truly do.)
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To: sandshark222

Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, and Michael Reagan cleared up a lot of the establishment distortions of the Reagan/Newt connection today.


1,966 posted on 01/26/2012 8:01:15 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather (It's a Newtiful Day today!)
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To: bigbob; Kenny; mylife

I believe that Governor Perry still had millions when he suspended his run.

What a debacle this debate is: once again, we’re handed the weakest of the original bunch - and bought the bullets for a circular firing squad.

Tonight, Paul says that there is a real **transfer of wealth from to the poor to the wealthy!** He laughs at us over and over - as he sets up Rand for the next election (or this one?)

Santorum just seems shallow, although he is strong on marriage and the right to life, his record is for support of big government and interference in our lives.

Romney is too new to this Conservatism to trust, and his previous absolutes sounded with as much conviction as his new absolutes.

Newt draws question after question concerning “let’s clarify what you meant when you said . . .” He has trouble with defending marriage and the right to life (he stumbled badly when he said life begins at implantation), said we don’t have “humanity” if we want to deport all grandmas, and condemns negativity with ugly, negative rhetoric.


1,967 posted on 01/26/2012 8:01:19 PM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org: Have mustard seed & I'm not afraid to use it. 2 men inherited a Bush economy.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather; VinL; katiedidit1; Gator113

>>>> I am watching the after the debate discussion on CNN. Very interesting. They are saying the establishment is making themselves available to media after Newts Florida events on location to dispute anything Newt says at the event. Furthermore, Donna Brazille is saying Romeny is saying different things in Florida than he did in Iowa and tomorrow the Democrats will be taking a close look at those things. <<<<

THIS is unmanageable, without the TEA PARTY drownding out their response! The word has to get out to Floridians that NEWT is being gagged by hand to hand combat tactics!


1,968 posted on 01/26/2012 8:01:19 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. NEWT 2012 / Rick Bachmann=Tool of the RINO/Romney backers)
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To: goodnesswins

Romney just comes off as a nasty pric*, sorry.

Just watching it at the end. He appears as if he’s on cocaine. He cannot speak without stuttering, stammering. His speech is erratic.

Whatever Newt did or said, or however “flat” he was ...he’s the only one who remains calm and presidential looking.

It’s the subtle difference between a professional and an amateur.


1,969 posted on 01/26/2012 8:01:19 PM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: jwalsh07

“Astute and honest analysis, my faith in FR is somewhat restored.”

You sound like Moochelle Obama.


1,970 posted on 01/26/2012 8:01:33 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: rbmillerjr

Rick will take away votes from Romney.


1,971 posted on 01/26/2012 8:01:33 PM PST by jennychase
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To: Kenny

Ricks problem is that he gets just like Mitt and Newt when the pressure is on, he chokes and gets petulant.


1,972 posted on 01/26/2012 8:01:39 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I know that Newt says he likes Santorum, but how low can a man go to lie about your friend of 20 years? Santorum knows damn well that Newt has not been for an individual mandate for 20 years. He knows damn well that Newt and WIllard’s positions are not the same. He treats Newt with as much contempt as he treats the worthless Romney. Santorum has no integrity whatsover. He should know he has no chance at the nomination and should get the hell out because all he’s accomplishing is handing Romney the nomination on a silver platter. I don’t think Santorum gives a damn if Romney wins. If he did care, he would get out and support Newt. But if Newt’s friends are like Santurom he damn sure not need any enemies.


1,973 posted on 01/26/2012 8:02:01 PM PST by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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To: rbmillerjr
No offense but Santorum's speaking is too choppy to go up against the lawyer talking snake Obama.

I like all that Santorum says and agree with all he says but the man needs to work on grammar. Even though I'd vote for him there are those who would listen the choppy talk and think he's not up for the job. Unfortunate but true.

1,974 posted on 01/26/2012 8:02:06 PM PST by tsowellfan (https://twitter.com/cafenetamerica)
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To: Kenny

I agree. However, general consensus here seems to be Rick is just running to steal votes from Newt.

However, Newt has not won anymore states than Rick. Why should Rick bow out?


1,975 posted on 01/26/2012 8:02:11 PM PST by AnnGora (I'm suing my tagline for sexual harrassment.)
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To: jennychase

Yes, ma’am. He will do that especially after tonight.


1,976 posted on 01/26/2012 8:02:24 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: Kenny

I just believe the Republicans have done a disservice by having so many d**n debates. I can see one or two initially one after New Hamphsire and one now. All these debates just continue to give the Dems more ammunition plus only the real diehards watch.

I don’t know what to think in FL missed tonight, but concerned if Sanity did well he will take a little bit of Newt’s juice and that will give Romney the W in FL. We’ll have to see.


1,977 posted on 01/26/2012 8:02:28 PM PST by shoedog
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To: jennychase

That could happen. I hope so. It should happen. As long as Newt wins, I’m ok with it.


1,978 posted on 01/26/2012 8:02:36 PM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: gswilder
Yes, jobs and economy. I have skills and cannot get an “online” company to respond to my application. My bank has crappy interest. My broker has bond deals. It is the economy stupid.
1,979 posted on 01/26/2012 8:02:41 PM PST by Bronzy (Drop a NEWTron on Obama!)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Can you post this information in a Vanity? Seems very urgent to me.


1,980 posted on 01/26/2012 8:03:13 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. NEWT 2012 / Rick Bachmann=Tool of the RINO/Romney backers)
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To: manc
They did and was told off the GOP when we tired to get tickets as we live near here that only 800 went out and the establishment kept the others

Right..CNN didn't stack the crowd for Newt, the FL GOP-E did...merely by being the establishment types they are. Sounds like 800 seats for the public, 800-1000 for dignitaries...press, and 800-1000 seats for FL GOP-E (Romney fans.)

1,981 posted on 01/26/2012 8:03:13 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

LOL

didn’;t the people of that island vote to stay how they are and why do they have their own flag, their own language but take the money from here?


1,982 posted on 01/26/2012 8:03:21 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: truthluva

Looks like Wingman Ron lent Mitt a few of his poll spammers. Either that or Drudge has become a magnet for Romneybots.


1,983 posted on 01/26/2012 8:03:23 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: AnnGora

All right. I’m officially calling for Romney to drop out and endorse Santorum. After that butt whiping he took on Romneycare, it’s the right thing to do for the country. :-)_


1,984 posted on 01/26/2012 8:03:34 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: nathanbedford

I do not like what you said, but I am afraid I agree.

It is my ‘hope’ that the people of Florida will have seen how rigged this was against Newt and for the advancement of Romney.

I don’t feel good about any of this tonight, but there is tomorrow. ;>)


1,985 posted on 01/26/2012 8:03:45 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO.....!)
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To: gswilder
After tonight Romney is out of the question for me, if he wins the nomination I will not vote for him. It has gone from dislike to hate so unless the other two win I am so screwed.
1,986 posted on 01/26/2012 8:04:25 PM PST by badpacifist ( Newt /Santorum)
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To: MissMagnolia

Great idea. It seemed to me this evening, that our public information isn’t much better than communist countries. They manipulate the questions to get the results they want and the nominee they want. They avoid issues that would embarrass Obama and his failed policies. It is frightening just how much control media has over this country.


1,987 posted on 01/26/2012 8:04:39 PM PST by Toespi
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To: Exton1

” Santorum looks at the BIG picture and what is best for the country.”

If that was true, he would have endorsed Newt while we still had a chance to beat Romney.

Romney will likely win now.


1,988 posted on 01/26/2012 8:04:51 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: rbmillerjr

Congratulations on your engagement to Barney Frank.


1,989 posted on 01/26/2012 8:05:02 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Exton1

” Santorum looks at the BIG picture and what is best for the country.”

If that was true, he would have endorsed Newt while we still had a chance to beat Romney.

Romney will likely win now.


1,990 posted on 01/26/2012 8:05:11 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: jwalsh07

LOL!


1,991 posted on 01/26/2012 8:05:31 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: katiedidit1

Some people think that only a Kennedy can suggest Space goals. Newt is right we need a GOAL for outer space. I don’t understand why so many people don’t realize that we will always have poor people and social issues. Goals like going to Mars will bring us many new technologies that we cannot even imagine now. Sound like those who bash it think that winning an idol program is enough.


1,992 posted on 01/26/2012 8:05:41 PM PST by Exton1
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To: The Citizen Soldier

I pray that your predictions are right.


1,993 posted on 01/26/2012 8:06:21 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO.....!)
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To: sandshark222

“Why is the GOP establishment so afraid of nominating conservatives? The dems aren’t afraid to nominate flaming liberals.”

I don’t think it matters to dems—they just want to win. They knew Hillary was a weak candidate, even if it was “her turn”. They had this “clean articulate” Black guy with no Civil Rights/Jesse Jackson type baggage to put up against the weak Repub candidate. Everyone voting for their guy would be part of “history.” And the media ate it up and covered for their unvetted candidate. It was a big bonus plus for the Dem establishment that he also has a love of big government....that he would squander his first two years in office with control of Congress by passing socialized medicine which was something they had been shooting for for decades.


1,994 posted on 01/26/2012 8:06:21 PM PST by Fu-fu2
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To: gswilder

Me too, anyone but the Dictator. I thought that Santorum won handily tonight. It would have been a landslide if HE was given the Palestinian question that Newt slammed out of the park.
Paul should get the hook, except that insanity and mediocrity are prevalent in America today.
Romney had some good moments, but when he told Rick not to be angry about the confiscation of liberties through government-run health care, the crowd responded with nervous laughter. they knew that he blew it.


1,995 posted on 01/26/2012 8:06:35 PM PST by alstewartfan (27 of 36 of Romney's judicial appointments were DEMOCRATS!!!!!)
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To: rbmillerjr

Tea party is with Mitt, they can change equation in Florida.
Newt needs more endorsements.


1,996 posted on 01/26/2012 8:06:39 PM PST by jennychase
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To: hocndoc

I would give anything to see Governor Perry come back in. He was the best candidate, passionate and ready to enact real change.

Guess that’s why the establishment didn’t want him either.


1,997 posted on 01/26/2012 8:07:09 PM PST by Kenny
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To: All
The GOP has been brainwashed into believing that we have to appeal to moderate voters or lose automatically.

They don't realize that when you put up a moderate against a supposed other moderate(2008 McCain vs zero a supposed moderate) we lose.

Now we know he is a far left commie and we are still putting up moderates like Mitt,its more suicide.

As mercurial as Newt is he's still light years ahead of zero and his handlers but you can't convince the RNC/GOP of that. They are stuck in the mode of you have to cater to the squishy middle instead of put forth the best smartest candidate.

1,998 posted on 01/26/2012 8:07:09 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: rbmillerjr

And Santorum will take plenty from Newt after tonight.

Romney 34%
Newt 28%
Santorum 20%
Paul 14%


1,999 posted on 01/26/2012 8:07:20 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: AnnGora

Iowa was a straw vote, and he won by a dozen or so votes. It is a stretch to say he won a state.


2,000 posted on 01/26/2012 8:07:39 PM PST by Toespi
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