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Live Thread: Republican Presidential Debate in Jacksonville, FL on CNN 8 P.M. EST
Thursday, January 26, 2012 | Kristinn

Posted on 01/26/2012 3:56:03 PM PST by kristinn

Hosted by Wolf Blitzer at the University of North Florida in Jacksonville. Candidates: Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum and Ron Paul.

Word is the audience will be "allowed" to participate.

Livestream here.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; 2012gopprimary; debate; fl2012; gingrich4america; gopdebate; livefladebate; liveflaprimarydebate; livegopdebate; patriotgingrich; rinoromney; romney4romney; santorum
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To: badpacifist
After tonight Romney is out of the question for me, if he wins the nomination I will not vote for him. It has gone from dislike to hate so unless the other two win I am so screwed.

After the first few sentences he begins to sound like Charlie Brown's teacher.

2,001 posted on 01/26/2012 8:07:58 PM PST by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking"..J.C. Watts)
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To: kjam22
I worked at the olympics.. did you know that?????

Did he serve in Viet Nam.
Is he a tax-attorney?
Did he raise 23 foster kids?

2,002 posted on 01/26/2012 8:08:06 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: jwalsh07
Well, actuallly ......

Engaged: Barney Frank, 71, and longtime partner Jim Ready, 42, the congressman’s office confirmed for us Thursday, following a report by New England Cable News. Where? In Massachusetts, where gay nuptials were made legal in 2004. When? Sorry, that’s all the details they’d give. Frank is set to leave Congress next winter after 32 years, and he’s said the rigors of the job and the desire to devote more time to his relationship were factors. “I have a partner now,” Frank told Charlie Rose in an interview a couple weeks ago. “I’m in love for the first time in my life.” (from Hot Air)

2,003 posted on 01/26/2012 8:08:15 PM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: hocndoc

I BELIEVE that Perry was the most conservative of the bunch, and I KNOW that he had the best record of the bunch.

It’s a shame that he was shut out on debate performances.
He had an excellent debate on the eve of suspending his campaign.
There was no forgiveness for Perry for a lousy debate, and no come back for him when he debated well.
Every candidate on the stage tonight has had an evening that was a terrible debate for them, In fact they have all had multiple bad debates.


2,004 posted on 01/26/2012 8:08:22 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: katiedidit1

I think we need a Florida TEA PARTY alert, and maybe send money to the PAC, WINNING THE FUTURE, where hopefully the heavy ammo is buried! LOL! We need some state wide help in Florida. And some NAVY SEALS to go stealth for NEWT. :)


2,005 posted on 01/26/2012 8:08:35 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. NEWT 2012 / Rick Bachmann=Tool of the RINO/Romney backers)
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To: rodguy911

it’s not just brainwashed over moderates

these people are not social conservatives...never have been


2,006 posted on 01/26/2012 8:08:51 PM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: rbmillerjr

Santorum looks at the BIG picture and what is best for the country.”

If that was true, he would have endorsed Newt while we still had a chance to beat Romney.

Romney will likely win now.

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God, I hope you’re wrong. And for the life of me, I dont’ understand Santorum at ALL. He KNOWS he can’t win. He KNOWS his presence only helps Romney. WHAT is up with this guy??? Does he care about this country AT ALL???


2,007 posted on 01/26/2012 8:09:10 PM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: Fresh Wind

>> “Maybe he meant his profits.” <<

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Are you saying that is his true ‘Religion?’


2,008 posted on 01/26/2012 8:09:42 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Kenny

Right. It’s too bad that nowadays you have to be a great debater. Being a great person and a great governor are not enough.


2,009 posted on 01/26/2012 8:09:57 PM PST by Warthog-2 (Character Counts)
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To: manc
You may be correct. Why buy the Cow when the Milk is free?

Here in Obamaville it's a little different. Why get a job when Obama will pay my bills with someone Else's money?

2,010 posted on 01/26/2012 8:10:11 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Liberals, Useful Idiots Voting for Useless Idiots...)
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To: ez

If people are smart, they will vote for Newt and Rick can’t win. Vote for Rick will be waste for Conservative movement.


2,011 posted on 01/26/2012 8:10:33 PM PST by jennychase
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To: rodguy911
You may be selling Rush a bit short. He really does not have to work. Either he is there for his ego or because he really cares about the future or some of both.

I'm a Rush fan (probably less so today than in the past), and I feel he's still the number one guy when it comes to articulating conservative philosophy. He is the master.

But here's the rub. If one truly believes in the conservative principles how can they say that a moderate (I really think moderate is overly gracious when applied to Mitt) is suddenly okay. This happens, it seems, every election cycle with Rush.

Throughout the year we hear Rush's slams and numerous parodies about McCain, Graham, Snowe, etc., but once the election is near its all about fear and how we have to support the non-democrat.

When Rush went through his "rough patch" (drug use, etc.) we stood by him 100%! We knew the media was using this event to hurt Rush and minimize him, but true conservatives stood by him.

Today, he could have taken a similar position with Newt (certainly as it related to Ronald Reagan and the completely false accusations leveled at Newt), but Rush got cute and danced around it ever so slyly. I wonder if Rush would still be on the air today if his followers had danced the same dance a few years ago.

Okay, at the end of the day, I still like Rush and I won't be able to not listen to him again (I will probably wait until AFTER the Florida vote). I don't pretend to have all of the answers, and I apologize if that sounded like my intention. My grandkids do give me the vision I need to see beyond next week, or even next year, but that's just me.

God Bless.

2,012 posted on 01/26/2012 8:10:47 PM PST by The Citizen Soldier (America needs Gingrich in 2012 about as much as England needed Churchill in 1940!)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Unfortunately known of that is getting MSM coverage. Only Elliott Abrams.


2,013 posted on 01/26/2012 8:11:03 PM PST by freemarketsfreeminds
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To: AnnGora

problem with your logic is they split the same vote

and hence Romney who runs like Obama simply attacking opponents rather than what he is

wins...

and who is polling better lately...Newt

Should Newt step down so a lesser polling Rick can maybe beat Mitt?

doesn’t compute

were Santorum out...Romney would be dead


2,014 posted on 01/26/2012 8:11:20 PM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: Shihtzumomma

You won’t think so when the Chinese set up shop there first. Do you think they’ll abide by some treaty that says “space should be for everyone?”


2,015 posted on 01/26/2012 8:12:01 PM PST by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: crymeariver

Another vacuum head Mitt-bot.


2,016 posted on 01/26/2012 8:12:06 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: LibsRJerks
WHAT is up with this guy???

He cant see how toxic he would be in a general election.

2,017 posted on 01/26/2012 8:13:18 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: KJC1

“Whoa, Santorum just said on Greta’s show that there’s not much difference between Newt and Romney. Rick, can you use some of the money I donated to you to buy a clue?”

Shameful lying POS...he comes to Pa and says that I’m going to be on national TV and he’s going to have a big broken nose. lol

In jest, but he deserves to have his teeth knocked out.


2,018 posted on 01/26/2012 8:13:34 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: Exton1

You are a visionary and great accomplishments come from such folks. I looked into all the massive and wonderous inventions, achievements thanks to space exploration. It is mind boggling. I remember the old tvs with antennas and local channels..we have satellites now. I remember the old cut and stitch surgeries..we have so much done with lasers and scans now from cataracts to kidneys to lungs. It is amazing. One day everyone may look back (after China beats us to it) and say that “Newt was a man ahead of his time”


2,019 posted on 01/26/2012 8:13:34 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Gator113; All

Something the establishment keeps saying is that Newt as nominee will cause us to lose seats in the house and senate, but I counter that with, if obama wins a second term a republican majority in the house and senate won’t really help us because obama circumvents congress anyway. If obama wins he will probably just become a dictator as was evidenced by his sotu address.


2,020 posted on 01/26/2012 8:13:48 PM PST by paintriot (Newt 2012 & 2016 Thinking long term!)
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To: LibsRJerks
Whatever Newt did or said, or however “flat” he was ...he’s the only one who remains calm and presidential looking.

Everyone thinks that if Newt doesn't have a standing ovation now that he was flat. The truth is he had a good debate, especially on policy issues, but when you have an stacked audience of Romneybots, it's hard to hit it out of the park. When you compare Newt and Romney, there's no comparison as to who is wiser, more knowledgeable and presidential. Regardless of what the talking heads are saying, Santorum damaged Romney tonight. I don't see how they can say with a straight face that Romney had a good night.

2,021 posted on 01/26/2012 8:14:09 PM PST by Proudcongal (NEWT/PERRY or NEWT/SANTORUM or NEWT/PALIN 2012!)
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To: kristinn

The audience was stacked tonight for Romney. Two of my friends tried to get tickets and to avail most of them were already reserved by the RNC. Very fishy. Because did you notice how those dimwits laughed about improving the Interstate while improving the port in South Carolina? Did you catch that slip of the tongue by Romney when he said we did the national health care plan? Oops, guess he meant to say state plan. Of all of the people the elitist could pick, they got this snake and dirty politician. Newt did fine. Under all of the weekly Drudge attacks, he did great. He tried to stay cool when the moderator was asking dumb questions. If a republican votes for Romney and his socialized government health plan, you are asking for that to go nationwide. If Romney can’t win with an honest campaign, he is just another corrupt person. Very angry with the media, we had Clinton, then Bush caved in-now maybe a Mass liberal. I don’t see an improvement with Romney.


2,022 posted on 01/26/2012 8:14:09 PM PST by Christie at the beach
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To: mylife

Of the original group that was running, Perry was my favorite. I thought he would not only get the nomination, but clean Obama’s clock.

Oh well, in the end, you will vote for the republican nominee or guarantee Obama’s reelection. And that scares me more than electing Paul, Romney, Gingrich, or Santorum. You can have principles and not vote for the republican. But that just ensures Obama wins. And those republicans on the Supreme court are getting pretty old.


2,023 posted on 01/26/2012 8:14:17 PM PST by gswilder
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To: RitaOK

I do not know how to do a vanity post. Can you do it?


2,024 posted on 01/26/2012 8:14:35 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather (It's a Newtiful Day today!)
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To: truthluva

Hey, I just voted again. Romney and Paul are way ahead of Newt. Guess it is just a site who has people with nothing to do but vote. FYI...I was very good this weekend and only voted once per day.


2,025 posted on 01/26/2012 8:14:49 PM PST by Bronzy (Drop a NEWTron on Obama!)
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To: bray

It’s really difficult to say bray.He had a barrage of BS thrown at him little of which had to do with being president.Hard to deal with for a man of his intellect.


2,026 posted on 01/26/2012 8:15:03 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: RitaOK

Praying for a BACKFIRE that shows itself on Tuesday!

I agree, Newts supporters (Tea Party) are really pissed off.
I hope they do the same thing in FL as they did in SC.


2,027 posted on 01/26/2012 8:15:11 PM PST by billys kid (Everything in Massachusetts is illegal)
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To: Bailee; dixiechick2000; don-o; chasio649
No Offense to the Santorum fans he just does not have the funding or infrastructure to compete with Romney.

If you make the mistake of going to the Levin thread like I did earlier and say what you just did...as I did

You will learn quickly some of them are vile...bad as Paulbots

it shocked me to be frank..profanity and utter crassness I don;t think they care as much as we do that Mitt be thwarted..

Were Rick in Newt's shoes the Romney-GOP smear machine would be on him as well...but that fact eludes them

2,028 posted on 01/26/2012 8:15:20 PM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: Diogenesis

Paul has a difficult time finishing sentences. I don’t know...maybe he doesn’t have complete thoughts. He sure can’t articulate them. He always ends his sentences with “you know”, “then there’s that”, “there’s all of that stuff”, etc......


2,029 posted on 01/26/2012 8:15:24 PM PST by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you got ta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
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To: Jim Robinson; crymeariver

>> “Mitt had his best debate tonight. He’ll make a fine President. Sorry...” <<

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2,030 posted on 01/26/2012 8:15:44 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Toespi

You’re confusing the IA Straw Poll with the IA Caucuses. Bachmann won the Straw Poll; Santorum won the Caucuses.


2,031 posted on 01/26/2012 8:15:57 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: RitaOK

Send in the Seals to lock up the Romneyites...lol. O’Reilly comparing Coulter to a conservative who is against Newt. Also, he had Delay on bashing Newt. He calls them right wing conservatives against Newt


2,032 posted on 01/26/2012 8:16:02 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: The Citizen Soldier

I think there is way to much reading between the lines on Rush. Rush has never endorsed anyone. Rush has mocked Romney so don’t try to tell me he is the bag for him. I think what really riled Rush on Newt (as it did me) was when Newt went after Romney’s money. Rush’s big passion is that everyone succeed and don’t envy others success and money. Newt really lost me for a week when he went on the assult of Romney’s weath and out of touch. You can attack Romney on myriad of issues that shows his lack of being a true conservative, Newt played to the press and into their hands when he went down that path. I do believe Rush, like many of us, are torn, we don’t feel especially strongly about any of these candidates. For those that are diehard Newt supporters now, ask yourselves, Sept, October of last year, was Newt your pick for Presidential candidate of Republican party. I would challenge you that there was less then 5-10% of Free Republic posters who would have answered yes to that.


2,033 posted on 01/26/2012 8:16:08 PM PST by shoedog
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To: AmericanInTokyo
But in this CNN forum tonight from the floor, you hear the same d*mn thing you hear a lot on CNN, NBC, ABC, NPR, or on US college campuses in the class room etc, when it comes to Spanish names. "PuERRRRrrrrrto RRRRRIkkkoh," "ManuELLL OrrrrrrTEga" in the midst of an otherwise perfect English sentence. What's up with THAT? What makes these people so special that they have to shove their language like that in most peoples faces; I think it is a certain superiority. I think it is divisive and insulting and rather unecessary. Speak in American English in a full sentence, or fine, in Cuban or Mexican Spanish in a full sentence, fine, but do not mix the two! (Pet Peeve)

You are so right - living in San Antonio we hear that shit all the time. Normal Texas accented English until we get to a Hispanic Name, and then full-on Mexican! Unreal and so fake.

2,034 posted on 01/26/2012 8:16:24 PM PST by Tuxedo (Drink Tea - not Kool-Aid. Gingrich 2012.)
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To: nathanbedford
Where is your evidence that Romney and the GOP can out-debate or out-campaign the DNC/MSM??

Sure, RINO’s along with the Republican press, and the liberal MSM/DNC can destroy any Conservative...they do it time and time again. No big accomplishment.

But to beat Obama/DNC/MSM/Academia/Fed/State Bureaucracies...no way, has never happened, will never happen.

2,035 posted on 01/26/2012 8:16:39 PM PST by roses of sharon ("Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43)
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To: gswilder

The supreme court scares the hell out of me.


2,036 posted on 01/26/2012 8:16:43 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: NKP_Vet
"I know that Newt says he likes Santorum..."

Well, many Newt supporters here just know that Santorum is a slimey, big government, petulant, romney stalking horse, non-conservative, pro-labor, lightweight, back-stabbing, socon loser.

So, if Newt says he likes Santorum, that suggests one of three things:

1. Newt is a liar, and doesn't really like Santorum.

2. Newt is a poor judge of character, and doesn't choose his friends wisely,

or

3. Newt knows Santorum a lot better than some of his supporters who are completely deranged when it comes to Santorum.

My money's on #3.

2,037 posted on 01/26/2012 8:17:16 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: ngat

[Best I can figure, Romney is a top-down manager and we the people are his employees,]

That would explain him saying “I can get America right” in his closing statement. Am I the only one who found that insulting?


2,038 posted on 01/26/2012 8:17:20 PM PST by KansasGirl (GO NEWT! NO ROMNEY!)
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To: freemarketsfreeminds
I know what you're saying but he turn the answer around.

While the question was his closeness to Reagan politically

He answered the question as if he was asked if he had met Reagan, walked with him and knew him personally by saying "Of course The Speaker was closer to Reagan back then because he was The Speaker."

He's a snake and he's trying to hide his differences between his political beliefs and those of Reagan.

And you are right about what he said in the debate between him and Kennedy. In the video when Kennedy tried to compare him (Romney) to Reaganism, you could see the look on Rommey's face. He was offended to be compared to Reagan.

Romney is further from Reagan than John McCain.

All we have to do is remember Romney's answer to the question: "What have you ever done for the conservative movement?"

He said he got married and started a business. Period.

2,039 posted on 01/26/2012 8:18:00 PM PST by tsowellfan (https://twitter.com/cafenetamerica)
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To: editor-surveyor

Heard something today on Hannity that Lunz or whatever his name is from Fox (the focus group dude) is going to conduct a focus group interview WITH the candidates. Only the audience of real people and the candidates will interact.

I think I remember he said they were having a hard time even getting Romney to show up.

Perhaps it will be a great contrast from these canned media circus style debates.


2,040 posted on 01/26/2012 8:18:28 PM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: katiedidit1

I hate to say it, my friend, but one of Newt’s biggest selling points was his debating skills, and now he has lost two in a row. I hope he can recover.


2,041 posted on 01/26/2012 8:18:51 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: AFPhys
Santorum was on Beck last week, and gave some of the most incredible lessons on the Declaration and the Constitution that I have ever heard.

It was just two short weeks ago that Santorum was confused about inalienable rights....

Roll tape.


2,042 posted on 01/26/2012 8:19:07 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Proudcongal

I think if I was living in Florida I would believe Newt was more aware of what is needed in Florida than the other three were. Afterall, he is running for President of ALL of the United States, so it would be important for him to understand what is happening in each state. jmho.


2,043 posted on 01/26/2012 8:19:42 PM PST by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking"..J.C. Watts)
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To: Warthog-2

Perry only had one really bad debate and his last one was dynamite. He was passionate (defending marines) yet had a great sense of humor.

I don’t think anyone should be judged on a single debate including Newt tonight. Anyone can be off their game.


2,044 posted on 01/26/2012 8:19:52 PM PST by Kenny
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To: abigailsmybaby

Paul is an intelligent man, but he seems to speak in a stream of consciousness.

He will be speaking, and say a word that reminds him of another subject, and then he wanders off onto that.

I must admit that I do it myself from time to time, word association football BBQ...


2,045 posted on 01/26/2012 8:21:29 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: wardaddy

Newt’s stumbles are keeping Santorum in the race. If he wants Rick’s votes, he needs to get better fast.

Every time I try to get with the program and get behind Newt, he starts blabbing about Romney’s bank accounts or his investments or some nonsense and drives me right back to Santorum.


2,046 posted on 01/26/2012 8:21:52 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: donaldo; kristinn
Romney, Gingrich, Santorum, or Paul? Any of the above. ANYBODY BUT OBAMA! Get it?

If you are really a conservative, it's anybody but Obama or Romney.

If you can't agree to those terms, please consider posting elsewhere, as you are not a conservative.
2,047 posted on 01/26/2012 8:22:38 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: sandshark222

Is it just me, or did Romney come across really nasty and mean tonight? Newt even offered a truce so they could get back to the issues, and Romney clearly turned it down.

Yes, he came across like ankle biter Bachman.
O’ wait! He has hired Barky’s coach.


2,048 posted on 01/26/2012 8:22:45 PM PST by billys kid (Everything in Massachusetts is illegal)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I would like to be able to find those videos of Rick praising Speaker Gingrich that was shown on Fox last week- by the Bret fellow. I think it was 3 -4 videos they played. Newt should play one of those for an ad.


2,049 posted on 01/26/2012 8:22:45 PM PST by Christie at the beach
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To: truthluva
I think if I was living in Florida I would believe Newt was more aware of what is needed in Florida than the other three were. Afterall, he is running for President of ALL of the United States, so it would be important for him to understand what is happening in each state. jmho.

Absolutely. I hope Floridians who heard the debate will focus on that. I live in Jacksonville. Newt is by far the most educated on each state. Romney just spouts his talking points and reminds everyone he headed up the Olympics and Staples.

2,050 posted on 01/26/2012 8:23:24 PM PST by Proudcongal (NEWT/PERRY or NEWT/SANTORUM or NEWT/PALIN 2012!)
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