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Live Thread: Republican Presidential Debate in Jacksonville, FL on CNN 8 P.M. EST
Thursday, January 26, 2012 | Kristinn

Posted on 01/26/2012 3:56:03 PM PST by kristinn

Hosted by Wolf Blitzer at the University of North Florida in Jacksonville. Candidates: Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum and Ron Paul.

Word is the audience will be "allowed" to participate.

Livestream here.

TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; 2012gopprimary; debate; fl2012; gingrich4america; gopdebate; livefladebate; liveflaprimarydebate; livegopdebate; patriotgingrich; rinoromney; romney4romney; santorum
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To: Vendome; DarthVader; 50mm; darkwing104; Arrowhead1952; Darksheare; onyx; TheOldLady; Lady Jag; ...

I missed a lot of zots last night. WOW. Better find and update my list soon.

2,281 posted on 01/27/2012 5:58:19 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: cincinnati65; livius

Just talked to a pal of mine who also tried and failed to get tickets and he just said a similar thing to me.
He said that he was told that the tickets would be distributed out by the RNC and that less than half would go to the public.

This is outrageous what the establishment is doing, disgusting.
They have gone all out to get this man and they saw how the crowd in SC worked for Newt so they now stacked the crowd with their lot to give Romney a boost

Livius, I’;m near you in the same town but we’re mostly , infact nearly all conservatives here. I admit down town is bad due to the artsy lot and the students but get away form there and you’re sound.

Our county does not even have a Dem in power and totally run by republicans

2,282 posted on 01/27/2012 6:00:22 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
It makes sense, that you would list all of the “qualities” of your candidate, by his (”handsome”) appearance, his emotional status for one given night, (Did you know he has 8......count ‘em....8 children????.....) And he looks young! Yes, he does! And most importantly of all, he has been only married to ONE woman.......That fact alone is the main qualifier to be President.

Forget the fact that Santorum was on of the biggest spenders in the Senate, and he backed Arlen Specter, and his voting record resembles that of Lindsay Graham and Olympia Snowe. Not to mention that he is absolutely proud of his record of sucking up every Earmark that ever became available to him.

No, those things don't matter, when you are sold a THE only “Conservative” in the race, especially when Santorum’s very moderate to Liberal record is completely overlooked or not even considered as a main criteria in evaluating him as a candidate.

Just remember, all that matters is the emotional involvement that voters take with them to the polls.

2,283 posted on 01/27/2012 6:27:23 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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Cool yer jets kid...

go back and read what I wrote...

2,284 posted on 01/27/2012 6:31:18 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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or is it that you are upset because last night your Willie Mitty looked more like a double for Scrooge than Brad Pitt ???

2,285 posted on 01/27/2012 6:33:36 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana
Kid? I haven't been called that in over 40 years, right after I came back from Asia, and some arrogant Football Coach mistook me for one of his students and tried to physically grab me and take me to the floor, because I was smoking a pipe in the lobby. (That was his first mistake)

His second mistake, was when he made me show him my identification after I let him get back up off the floor. His eyes almost popped out of his head when he saw my combat status and current Military ID. (That is when the profuse apologies started my way, and I laughed harder than I had in over 2 years.)

And yes, I actually read what you posted several times before I posted to you. And what I said, still stands.

2,286 posted on 01/27/2012 6:43:59 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Tennessee Nana

“Willie Mitty”?

Now, you are accusing me of being a Romney supporter?

For that, I do require an appology!

2,287 posted on 01/27/2012 6:46:49 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: cincinnati65

When the crowd laughed and clapped at just about everything Romney said, it was obvious the audience was stacked. Especially glaring was when he was mocking Gingrich for tailoring his campaign remarks to each city he was campaigning in. How absolutely jerkified was Romney on that? He doesn’t care about any of the states or the people that reside in them, he only cares about winning.

He and his cheering section absolutely sicken me.

2,288 posted on 01/27/2012 6:50:19 AM PST by Shelayne
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To: livius

Did you notice how many question ended with Newt Gingrich said xxxxx, basically pitching a softball and inviting an attack on Newt, I was disgusted with Wolf. And Santorum plagiarizing a Newt speech at the end of a debate finished Santorum for me. Not that I was ever going to vote Santorum, but that was a bit much.

2,289 posted on 01/27/2012 6:51:59 AM PST by jpsb
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To: livius

Well said. In a true debate, as opposed to this stilted media circus, I suspect Gingrich would eat everyone else’s lunch.

2,290 posted on 01/27/2012 7:00:27 AM PST by aposiopetic
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To: WVNan

They can’t. The events are open to the public and all the Romney people are doing is talking to the press to counter Gingrich, not disrupting his events.

2,291 posted on 01/27/2012 7:03:00 AM PST by kristinn (Dump the Chump in 2012)
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To: presently no screen name

I think you just summarized WHY I am so in the tank for Newt!

Sadly, though, there are so many greedy lunkheads in this country, we’ll pass up our chance to have him as president. I can only pray we don’t. People just sometimes refuse to better themselves ...

2,292 posted on 01/27/2012 7:18:27 AM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: Srdubya; Vendome; DarthVader; Arrowhead1952; darkwing104; 50mm; stephenjohnbanker; SunkenCiv; ...

So long, Srdubya (Posting History)

Hat Tip to Vendome, Darth Vader, and Arrowhead1952

Trollish critique of the candidates earns a hot and overly stimulating ride ending in sizzling bones, guts, and ashes

Know the truth before you repeat what you think you know

Thank you JoeProBono

FReepmail TheOldLady to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.

2,293 posted on 01/27/2012 7:25:32 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: TheOldLady

Great graphic! Flame Thrower Zot!!

2,294 posted on 01/27/2012 7:31:46 AM PST by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: DarthVader
Great graphic!

High praise, coming from you. Thanks.

2,295 posted on 01/27/2012 7:33:52 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: FreeReign

You are just saying that a person has an absolute right to own a gun, until the day they no longer have that absolute right, and then they can’t own a gun.

In this case, your trigger is “they become a felon”; but an absolute right would be a right you had no matter what you did with it. A right cannot be an “absolute right” if it can be taken away.

I have the absolute right to my own opinion. There are probable other internalized “absolute rights”. Some rights are more universal than others — I have nearly the absolute right to life (realize we are talking about “absolute” relative to state action, not the “natural order” of things). There are a limited number of cases where the state finds that I have forfeited my right to life — but they do exist, for example if I kill another human being, then my right to life may no longer exist.

inalienable, in law means “Not subject to sale or transfer; inseparable.”

You could say we are arguing over definitions. You could even say the argument is circular on both sides - if there truly were no such thing as an “absolute right”, there would be no point in having the term “absolute right”. Why have a name for something that can’t exist?

But obviously that was not what Rick was talking about. He was correctly noting that NONE of our rights as expressed in the constitution are truly “absolute”, they all have boundaries. Your right to freely move your fist ends where my face begins.

The left treats rights as the freedom to impose their will on others. That is clearly something we need to fight back on.

2,296 posted on 01/27/2012 7:51:53 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: katiedidit1

If early death is ok by you, then I guess it is end of topic for you.

But if health and long life are desirable, then medical intervention has to be rejected; it is at best ineffective, and in modt cases hastens the end of life.

The body naturally removes cancer, arterial plaque, and malformations if fed real food. The NASA hype just clouds the mind.

2,297 posted on 01/27/2012 7:53:04 AM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Yaelle

“Does he care about this country AT ALL???”

He cares about his ego and nothing else. ME, ME, ME, ME,
It is all about me. “I’m the one that really done all those things that Speaker Gingrich is talking about. I was the one everyone came to with problems. ME, ME, ME”.

2,298 posted on 01/27/2012 7:56:09 AM PST by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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To: FreeReign

Throughout the history of the US, the USSC has repeatedly upheld the view expressed by Santorum, including justices such as Alito and Thomas. Your “roll tape” demonstrates your total misunderstanding if you believe Santorum is wrongheaded based on those quotes.

2,299 posted on 01/27/2012 7:56:18 AM PST by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: Tennessee Nana

“and of course theres the fact that Rick too has been married to just one woman..

and then theres the social issues..Rick is pro-life etc..

Romney must hate Rick with a passion...”

If Willard the liberal thought Santorum was a threat he would air an AD telling the world that Santorum’s wife shacked up with an abortion doctor for years before her and Santorum were married. You better believe they know about the story. If he were a threat ABC would interview the doctor.

2,300 posted on 01/27/2012 8:05:33 AM PST by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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