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'Birthers' Nonsense Sets Georgia Up For Ridicule -- Again
Columbus (GA) Ledger-Enquirer ^ | January 27, 2012

Posted on 01/27/2012 6:53:39 AM PST by transducer

We will risk the fairly safe assumption, as this is being written, that Air Force One did not make an appearance at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport sometime Thursday....

You almost have to laugh at this latest chapter in the seemingly endless “birther” saga, because about the only alternatives at this point are tears and/or nausea.

It was embarrassing enough when members of the Georgia legislature -- including, to Columbus’ acute humiliation, two members of the local delegation -- drafted a “Presidential Eligibility Assurance Act” in the last legislative session.

Now Georgians get to enjoy the added spectacle of their secretary of state, Brian Kemp, warning the president (let that sink in -- warning the president) through a White House attorney that failure to appear in a Georgia court would be “at your own peril.”...

Peach Pundit editor Charlie Harper, in a blog published this week in the Savannah Morning News, wrote: “This is a mistake. We are taught from a young age that we will be judged by the company we keep … The birther argument transcends disagreements of policy and politics and spirals into pure nuttery.” How true.

Georgia, no thanks to some judgment-impaired officials and certainly without the consent of the governed, has been slumming in the Orly Taitz nuttery neighborhood way too long. Please, for the sake of the state’s already battered image, let’s just quietly tiptoe out of this putrid political ghetto and back to the daylight side of town before we attract any more ridicule....

(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: birtherism; birthers; crackpots; naturalborncitizen; nonsense; orly; orlytaitz; taitz; zot
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To: douginthearmy

US Citizens are naturalized or natural born.

Yes they are EITHER naturalized or natural born. The two are not the same no matter how much you try to make them.


201 posted on 01/27/2012 12:42:21 PM PST by Josephat (The old claim your evengelizing people who haven't heard the gospel, but go to a Catholic country tr)
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To: douginthearmy
US Citizens are naturalized or natural born.

Or derived, as Adolphus Bellei in Roger v Bellei, or created by Statute, as were all Indians after the Indian citizenship act of 1924.

202 posted on 01/27/2012 12:45:26 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: transducer
I fail to see how it's "nuttery" to make a candidate for President of the United States, no matter WHO he is, prove that he's qualified constitutionally to hold the job.

Me thinks thou dost protest too much...

203 posted on 01/27/2012 12:48:30 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: douginthearmy
14th Amendment: Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

I guess you missed the bolded part?

Oh, and putting religious issues aside, all laws are manmade.

Not the laws of physics and biology. Speaking of which, it does indeed matter who is the father and what characteristics he possesses. If your theory were correct, there would not be an exception for Slaves, Indians and Diplomats.

I will be convinced when the Supreme Court agrees with you and codifies your opinion. Until then we effectively have only persons who are citizens at birth and those persons who are aliens at birth and at some point after naturalize.

I feel so sorry for you that you must have someone else tell you what your opinion is. Most of us here can think for ourselves and don't need a brain transfusion to know what we think. We can do our own research and come to our own conclusions.

I know that the Supreme court is WRONG on Roe v Wade, and they are also WRONG on Kelo v New London. They are also WRONG on Wong Kim Ark. It must be a comfort to you to not have to worry that the court ever gets anything wrong, but those of us who have a better understanding of the real world can afford no such fantasy.

Again, sorry for your condition.

204 posted on 01/27/2012 12:58:07 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: douginthearmy
Well, the ladies do call me "Tripod".

I think a euphemism for "third leg" suits you better.

205 posted on 01/27/2012 1:00:53 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Jurisdiction clause? Really? So Barack was not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States at the time of his birth? What planet are you from?

those of us who have a better understanding of the real world can afford no such fantasy

That's rich. Well, I guess the "real world" consists of 3 crackpot lawyers and 7 guys with a webring.

206 posted on 01/27/2012 1:13:18 PM PST by douginthearmy (Obamagebra: 1 job + 1 hope + 1 change = 0 jobs + 0 hope)
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To: douginthearmy
Jurisdiction clause? Really? So Barack was not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States at the time of his birth?

Don't know where he was born. He claims Hawaii, but Hawaii will give a birth certificate to the child of any Hawaiian resident, regardless of where the child is born. Apart from that, Barack wouldn't even send a copy of what Hawaii sent him to the judge. Funny that. So yeah, it's an open question whether Barack was subject to the jurisdiction of this country or not. At the moment it looks like a birth in White Rock Canada is a plausible guess. It is right on the border with Blaine Washington where Stanley's Aunt Eleanor lived, and in 1961 it was a common practice to send unmarried pregnant(or in this case an interracial pregnancy) girls away to live with a relative. Blaine didn't have a hospital, but White Rock did. Stanley Ann showing up at the University of Washington 15 days later makes a lot more sense if she was already *IN* Washington.

What planet are you from?

Planet reality. You should come visit sometime. Here, we don't make sh*t up and we don't believe a liar just because he says so.

That's rich. Well, I guess the "real world" consists of 3 crackpot lawyers and 7 guys with a webring.

I'm of the opinion that most lawyers are crackpots. Apparently the legal system has to break them of critical thinking before they are allowed to yammer in front of judges.

In any case, if you want to argue that Barack is a 14th amendment citizen, then that proves he is disqualified. Natural born citizens didn't need the 14th amendment to be "citizens."

207 posted on 01/27/2012 1:35:10 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Ratman83

Cuddle up with your 8th grade deploma.


208 posted on 01/27/2012 1:43:46 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: DiogenesLamp
In any case, if you want to argue that Barack is a 14th amendment citizen, then that proves he is disqualified. Natural born citizens didn't need the 14th amendment to be "citizens."

That is correct. Citizenship, as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776.

209 posted on 01/27/2012 1:50:13 PM PST by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: transducer; 50mm; darkwing104; Arrowhead1952; Darksheare; onyx; TheOldLady; Lady Jag; Allegra; ...

DU Troll ZOT!!

210 posted on 01/27/2012 4:23:40 PM PST by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: Josephat
Josephat said:

US Citizens are naturalized or natural born. Yes they are EITHER naturalized or natural born. The two are not the same no matter how much you try to make them.

Citizens are either Citizens of the United States or Natural Born Citizens. There are no other classes of citizenship recognized by the U.S. Constitution.

211 posted on 01/27/2012 4:30:39 PM PST by devattel
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To: transducer

212 posted on 01/27/2012 4:37:12 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: douginthearmy
You guys do realize there is a reason that Mark Levin completely dismisses you right?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hm?...Let me guess!

1) Mark Levin is a cowardly phony.

2) Mark Levin loves money more than truth.

213 posted on 01/27/2012 4:37:55 PM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: douginthearmy
You guys do realize there is a reason that Mark Levin completely dismisses you right?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hm?...Let me guess!

1) Mark Levin is a cowardly phony.

2) Mark Levin loves money more than truth.

214 posted on 01/27/2012 4:37:55 PM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: TheOldLady; transducer
Good zot and I especially enjoyed this one. Not only was he or she stupid, they were nothing more than a Barry boot licker. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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215 posted on 01/27/2012 4:56:31 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: jeffo

Tex-Con was finally zapped?!


216 posted on 01/27/2012 10:32:16 PM PST by Bikkuri
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To: Bikkuri; jeffo
"Tex-Con was finally zapped?!"

Wait, what? I would've thought that I'd have received an ozone-flavored Ping if that had happened. Did I miss something like that? Really?

217 posted on 01/28/2012 7:51:29 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: TheOldLady

TFTP - sure a lot who go way out of their way to make excuses for BHO and attack those who ask reasonable questions


218 posted on 01/28/2012 3:24:53 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: transducer

LOL

Oh no, liberals will think a Southern state is backwards! Wht ever will we do?!

Thankfully we have newbies like you to set us heathens straight.


219 posted on 01/28/2012 3:27:04 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: Admin Moderator; mojitojoe; Fantasywriter; LucyT; little jeremiah; Red Steel; azishot; ...

This one is for your lunch.

While you’re at it, here is the desert.

Newt would tell ya: with friends like this, who needs enemies?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2839755/posts?page=5#5

This troll signed in on 1/28/2012 and almost exclusively went to spread his “concerns” on the eligibility threads!

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:harlan1196/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change

0b0z0’s army of cockroaches needs the bright light of ZOT to scatter them out of our building and into the wind.

We all are expecting a war this election cycle. This is the vanguard of the communist troops to soften the opposition while their Brown Shirts started the rough stuff in Oakland after their training in Indiana and Wisconsin.

Of course, Law and Order morphed into what is MSM-accepted as “Law and H0lder,” which means, L0wly H0lder Rules!


220 posted on 01/30/2012 12:03:24 PM PST by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist)
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To: Bikkuri; Flotsam_Jetsome

Tex-Con zapped? Could I have a link?


221 posted on 01/30/2012 12:31:11 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: melancholy

Ping me when the retread gets zotted.

Check freepmail!


222 posted on 01/30/2012 12:35:38 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: transducer

You might be familiar with a little even called the Civil War? Hum? Yes?

Not since the secession of the south has a sitting POTUS failed to make the ballot.

You honestly think that is NOT news??? Wow.

Folks, you cannot fix stupid.


223 posted on 01/30/2012 12:42:27 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Darksheare

Nor was Obama’s father permanently domiciled in the United States like WKA’s parents were. The Treaty with China stated that those Chinese persons who chose to become permanently domiciled had changed their allegiance. So while they were not citizens, they were considered nationals. Gray could have used that for his justification of WKA’s citizenship, but he didn’t WHY? Because he used it to muddy the waters and protect the POTUS who nominated him to the SCOTUS bench. Chester Arthur.

WKA is not only bad law, it was written by a man with material reason to want to protect Chester Arthur, a man JUST as ineligible for POTUS as Barack Obama is.

Obama has LITERALLY followed everything Arthur did to hide the fact his father wasn’t naturalized until Chester was 14. Even going so far as to throw people a red herring about WHERE HE WAS BORN.

Grrrrr. WKA ought to be overthrown simply based upon Gray’s duplicity. If not for a half a dozen other reasons...


224 posted on 01/30/2012 12:54:22 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: little jeremiah; Flotsam_Jetsome
Not sure.. was asking the same thing from jeffo about a possible retread (transducer) (ZoTTed)..

Link to post I was asking the same thing :p
225 posted on 01/30/2012 1:42:26 PM PST by Bikkuri
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To: Bikkuri

Oops, my mistake.


226 posted on 01/30/2012 2:29:41 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: transducer

Hey zotted dumb*** - one of the plaintiffs was a Presidential elector.

He has standing.


228 posted on 01/30/2012 6:01:42 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Brown Deer

The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree, does it? Thanks for the Ping.


229 posted on 01/30/2012 6:32:25 PM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: transducer
"The Georgia case is about whether or not Obama meets the definition of a Natural Born Citizen, which our SCOTUS has in the past determined to mean mommy and daddy were US citizens.

Not so (see United States v. Wong Kim Ark.

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WKA was found by the court to be a "citizen," in part, because his parentS were perminantely domociled here.

Barry's father was a foreigner here on a temporary student visa.

Barry was born a British subject, owing allegience to the crown of her majesty the Queen of England. Assuming Sr. was his legal father at birth.

Minor, on the other hand, was found to be a citizen because she was a natural born Citizen....born in country, to 2 citizen parents.

230 posted on 01/30/2012 8:02:53 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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oh geez...LOL. guess I should have checked down-thread a bit more. Doesn’t surprise me s/he got the ZOT.


231 posted on 01/30/2012 8:13:37 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Brown Deer; mojitojoe

.

I remember the obnoxious, lying, troublemaker LorenC.

He’s ugly. No sex appeal either.

Glad he was zotted. Is he back under a new screen name?


232 posted on 01/30/2012 9:39:12 PM PST by LucyT ( NB. ~ Pakistan was NOT on the U.S. State Department's "no travel" list in 1981. ~)
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To: transducer
You crack me up. The issue has been tossed out of court on a question of 'standing' when people have tried to get it examined with discovery.

Ohhhhh Kay. No progress along that route, including members of the armed forces questioning the Constitutional qualifications of the current occupant of 1600 PA Ave.

However, the issue of whether he is qualified to be on the ballot for another crack at all this remains open to consideration.

So, finally, let's see some real evidence, not doctored image files, and show that he meets the requirement. In lieu of that, maybe the Democrat Party had better consider finding a new candidate.

The POTUS is not above the law, especially the Constitution he is sworn to uphold.

233 posted on 01/30/2012 10:06:07 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: wintertime

You guys do realize there is a reason that Mark Levin completely dismisses you right?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hm?...Let me guess!

1) Mark Levin is a cowardly phony.

2) Mark Levin loves money more than truth.

************************************************

Yep, you nailed it!


234 posted on 01/31/2012 3:29:10 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: transducer

Welcome to the South son things are done right around here. Maybe you will learn something! They should have never messed with Cain. Newt will hang in there. Pop some popcorn this is going to be fun!


235 posted on 01/31/2012 9:38:03 AM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (1 John 2:22...the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist...)
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To: transducer

Welcome to the South son things are done right around here. Maybe you will learn something! They should have never messed with Cain. Newt will hang in there. Pop some popcorn this is going to be fun!


236 posted on 01/31/2012 9:38:18 AM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (1 John 2:22...the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist...)
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To: Brown Deer

What a geeky looking little queer boy he is.


237 posted on 01/31/2012 10:35:06 AM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: transducer; Brown Deer; LucyT; Danae; bgill; Hotlanta Mike; Eleutheria5; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; ...
The posted piece may all Obamaton vitriol, but at least it's an indicator that the MSM (in particular, the Kansas City Star) is taking notice of the Georgia administrative proceedings. They must feel the need to protect their man from potentially serious damage.
238 posted on 01/31/2012 1:07:44 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: spokeshave; All
...but no President can be President of these United States if he is not on the ballot or certified in all 50 states.

Wrong! One does not have to be on the ballot in every state to be elected President. The requirement is to have the votes of the majority of the presidential electors nationally, or, if no candidate has such a majority, to win the contest in the House of Representatives as prescribed in the Twelfth Amendment of the Constitution.

If fact, in 1960, John F. Kennedy won the national election despite the fact that the Democrats in Mississippi ran a complete slate of unpledged electors, so his name was apparently not on the ballot.

239 posted on 01/31/2012 1:42:07 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Bikkuri; little jeremiah; jeffo
"Not sure.. was asking the same thing from jeffo about a possible retread (transducer) (ZoTTed).. "

It would appear that rumors of Tex-Con's having been crispyfied are unfounded.

240 posted on 01/31/2012 2:58:46 PM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: justiceseeker93

Just because they ridicule Georgia doesn’t mean they can nullify its electoral college votes, or interfere in its internal affairs.


241 posted on 01/31/2012 3:45:23 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (Diplomacy is war by other means.)
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To: justiceseeker93; All

Wire Fraud in the Land of Obama

http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2012/01/31/wire-fraud-in-the-land-of-obama/


242 posted on 01/31/2012 3:56:37 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Thank you for the update... It had left me scratching my head for a bit ;)


243 posted on 01/31/2012 4:13:17 PM PST by Bikkuri
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To: Hotlanta Mike; LucyT
PING to Hotlanta Mike's link..
244 posted on 01/31/2012 4:49:12 PM PST by Bikkuri
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To: Bikkuri; Hotlanta Mike; Jim Robinson; TheOldLady; mojitojoe; Flotsam_Jetsome; Berlin_Freeper; ...
Image and video hosting by TinyPic

Btw, the previously zotted, snake-in-the-grass LorenC posted the thread article under the screen name, "transducer".

So why is he back on FR under another screen name?

. . . . Now, back to Business.

Check out link at # 242 about wire fraud. Interesting.

Thanks Bikkuri, and Hotlanta Mike.

245 posted on 01/31/2012 5:22:57 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Eleutheria5

Hell, us Georgians have been ridiculed by the rest of the country for so long, for so many reasons... we just shrug it all off.

Frankly my dear, we don’t give a damn. ;o)


246 posted on 02/01/2012 4:04:16 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: LucyT; Fred Nerks; bushpilot1

247 posted on 02/01/2012 5:51:19 AM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer; bushpilot; LucyT

here’s the little weasel:

http://www.lorencollins.net/portrait.html


248 posted on 02/01/2012 12:36:24 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: LucyT; Jim Robinson

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/11417638-debunking-and-mocking-the-birther-nation


249 posted on 02/01/2012 12:56:12 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: autumnraine

Nor should you. Boy who says emperor is naked subjected to ridicule.


250 posted on 02/01/2012 2:20:44 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (Diplomacy is war by other means.)
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