Skip to comments.China Wants Manned Moon Base(least we have forgotten or missed this news)
Posted on 01/27/2012 11:43:26 PM PST by greeneyes
........."China is expected to complete its first exploration of the moon in 2010, and will establish a base on the moon as we did in the South Pole and the North Pole," said the program's chief scientist, Ouyang Ziyuan, according to the official People's Daily.
'For the Benefit of Humanity'
Beijing Morning Post quoted him as elaborating that the base would be used to "mine [the moon's] riches for the benefit of humanity."
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Too bad Mitt didn’t look at Romney after his “fire” comment and say “you would enjoy firing Kennedy”?
(somebody had to say it)
I would not be surprised if China claimed the moon as its sovereign territory, “for the good of humanity” of course,
Meanwhile, the LSM and Fox are acting like this is some irrelevant idea out of the blue which serves no purpose. Kinda reminds me of Reagan and the Star Wars meme.
I think Romney should drop out of the race and try out for Trumps show, he would be tops there, hands down. It would seem to suit him better.
I would not be surprised if China claimed the moon as its sovereign territory
That’s what I worry about.
[I would not be surprised if China claimed the moon as its sovereign territory, for the good of humanity of course,]
I have no doubt. And we will lose air superiority. I for one am glad that someone has the guts to bring up a subject the LSM tries to keep buried.
Fake but, uhm real....¿
I like newts space plan. The idiot Obama cancelled the Constellation project and the shuttle now we are screwed unless someone like Newt wins.
Thats what I worry about.
Me too. I hope everyone who reads this will help spread the word. Newt is bringing up and important economic and national security issue, just like Kennedy did.
It's a similar situation and Romney's response to Kennedy would have been you are fired!
“I like newts space plan. The idiot Obama cancelled the Constellation project and the shuttle now we are screwed unless someone like Newt wins.”
Spread the word. I don’t think many people know about this challenge from China and Russia. They just think Newt is dreaming up big ideas for no purpose. LSM is ridiculing him the same way they riduled Reagan and Star Wars.
Dude I am so there.
He who controls the high ground controls the battlefield.
He who controls the high ground controls the battlefield
Yep, and Romney just conceded it as not worth even trying.
I’m not sure there’s much for China to mine. Maybe some deuterium? There’s no metal core, no hydrological systems, no vulcanism... They could mine water and get hydrogen fuel I suppose. That’s if they can get there. They’ll really have to steal a lot of stuff from us and the Russians.
The number one potential for making money is ....... tourism.
Moon is a potential source for Helium-3 (a non-radioactive nuclear fuel)
Oxygen and water can be obtained from the moon
Jet fuel can be obtained from the moon
Moon can be used as a base for future space travel
Well, one of the articles I read gave a list of several things they could mine. I also heard somewhere that the water was necessary for travel to Mars.
I don’t necessarily believe why China says it is doin things. I would imagine the real reason is military as much as anything. Of course they say it is for humanity. LOL.
China plans to be on the moon by 2020.
People say the moon belongs to all of us, but China (which is already gaining monopoly on earth's minerals) will say "Finder's keepers"
Jeepers. Thanks for the links. Help get the word out to everyone you know. LSM will be ridiculing Newt night and day over this, and most people won’t be researching it.
Yes they will, and I think that is a real threat.
Agreed. I am just not happy about China having a base on the moon.
Don`t know about the Russians, but the U.S. has shown in the past it`s quite willing to hand over whatever delivery system technology the Chinese will want... just as it did during the 1990s in exchange for a $100k donation to the DNC.
It's estimated there could be at least 1.3 trillion pounds (600 million metric tons) of water ice
Numerous craters near the poles of the Moon have interiors that are in permanent sun shadow. These areas are very cold and water ice is stable there essentially indefinitely.
Oh good. Shall I send them my address for the location to send my checks?
I've heard postulated an EM system in a high altitude area like Nepal could accelerate payloads down hundreds mile-long tracks before being shot skyward at orbital velocity. Don't know if it would work...but we've got to get past the point of tying a billion dollar bomb to our a$$ and lighting the fuse.
If we can get to where a truckload can be sent into orbit for the same rate it costs to ship it coast to coast, then we'll get space industry, colonization, interplanetary commerce, the whole thing. People reading the "want ads" will see them separated into "local jobs" and "off-world jobs".
I know one thing, at this critical stage of our nation's future, none of us will see anyone going "where no man has gone before" without supportive conservative leadership. We won't have space delayed, it will be space denied...and that's if the country survives at all.
They have to actually get there before any claims could be made. And besides, we can always say “it’s ours, and the flags are there to prove it.”
Well the science and even sci-fi types are appalled that we are lagging and losing out. It’s so obvious o is out to destroy America.
Newt should have said, “you really, really do like to fire people, don’t you.”
All they do is steal or wait for an idiot like Clinton to hand it over.
Didn’t they just ridicule Newt for mentioning a plan to go to the moon?
Can we afford to let China have the moon alone?
Thinking one step ahead the moon is the perfect launch place for a trip to Mars. Gravity there is roughly 17% of the Earth. No atmosphere to fight through either. Bigger payload and less fuel. I suspect theres lots more to mine there.
Fox news this am cut guy off just as he was trying to make the point about kids, inspiration, and education amid much scowling and rapid arm waving.
Then fox moved on to the really important stuff ... /s
I presume that would be "American Idol" or some other 21st century version of bread & circuses.
Plenty of energy (sunlight) and water is all that is needed. What you fail to realize is that a moon-base is THE stepping-stone to asteroid mining, which has everything the moon lacks. Kick a couple of nickel-iron and water chunks into lunar orbit (I don't "really" like the idea of putting such chunks in NEA (near-earth-orbit)). Manufacture what can be superiorly controlled in zero-g near the asteroids, and what needs gravity on the lunar surface. Export finished products to earth (after all, "it's all downhill" from there).
"The number one potential for making money is ....... tourism."
the Chinese, those wonderful benefactors of North Korea, are expanding their rape of natural resources beyond their earth bases in Central America, Asia and Africa, and to the moon...and all for “the benefit of humanity”
Chinese-speaking humanity, that is
They may build the moon’s first prison camp
Wercome to the peoples moon corony number 8, please to watch the low overhead round eye.
Wercome to the peoples moon corony number 8, please to watch the low overhead round eye.
———out of the blue which serves no purpose. -——
Much of the hardware is already designed. There is a private company with a functioning space station module already in space. For an already determined and advertised fee, they will build a larger station to suit.
In old Engineering News Record’s there are articles describing moon base structures of several designs for various purposes. There is at least one private company with vehicles capable of reaching beyond the earth
Newt is right. We have already much of the necessary technology available in private hands. The project is doable
Then there are China and Japan. Why go alone? Why not have some collaboration? We have all sorts of American/foreign design and construction joint ventures to carry out all sorts of projects.
All of the countries involved know the process and could just as easily ficus on the moons as the far deserts of Mongolia. Such consortia of multinational joint ventures built Saudi Arabia and Kuwait and soon Iraq.
Newt is hated and dangerous because he thinks. No one else has his vision. He could lead the process of culling the nonthinkers and cleansing the system
The moon-colony idea is one of the things which tempers my enthusiasm for Gingrich. It is nonsense, and a waste of money.
Resources on the moon! There is nothing on the moon which cannot be obtained on the Earth far more cheaply. A lump of basalt from the moon must cost millions of times what such a sample costs if gathered in my own backyard.
As for any knowledge we can get from the moon, we can do this research with robots. The entire computer power of the previous moon missions was much, much less than what is in an iPhone. In other words, we now have computer abilities which should be able to let us remotely explore the moon (and other places) much more cheaply than sending people, and with less risk to the hapless astronauts, and with more precise results. Building robots could be just as much fun as sending humans to the moon, and would sharpen our skills in robotics, with more immediate benefit to life on Earth.
The rockets going to the moon are powered by chemical rockets, and the power comes from fossil fuels, unless you expect windmills to do the job. Robot devices do not require the extensive overhead (food, waste-disposal, energy, weight, cost of return trip) that living humans do.
If the Chinese wish to send some of their people to the moon, let them. It is not what counts in the world. I wish them well in that effort, but we don’t have to make a contest out of stupidity.
Here’s an idea. The Chinese can go to the moon. They can get excited every time there is a crisis threatening the lives of their unlucky volunteer astronauts. Meanwhile, we will have robots exploring the moon, and will make their camera shots available in real time (with a slight delay required for transmission, because of the distance). Any person will be able to watch through the Internet. Kids could put on helmets with stereo presentation of the robots-eye view of the explorations, at any time. Pretty soon it would be obvious which system was working better.
The biggest challenge for any lunar settlement is that the moon is so inhospitable for basic human existence that the cost of supporting human life there will be enormous. There's no way any ambitions about long-term settlement can work out unless this substantial obstacle can be addressed.
But we didn't have the gall to claim it.
Not really. It's not like the space station, where every pound of every resource has to be boosted. Virtually all the needed energy and raw materials to SUSTAIN life can be had there, now that we know there are large quantities of water. The comparison is pretty much the same as for the original US colonies.....there is a startup cost, but once started, can be self-sustaining.
You have the R-L sound substitution down perfect, plus the “round eye” comment and improper verb conjugations.
Let me guess... you spend lots of time around Asians?
The way things are going with the Chinese figuring out capitalism while we're destroying it, we probably deserve to have the Chinese beat us to the moon. Plus, they're the ones in need of extra territory to put all their people.
Maybe if the Chinese are nice and decide to keep a few “round eyes” around back on Planet Earth to remind them of how socialism destroys nations, the Chinese will decide around the year 2030 that it's in their economic best interest to let us rent some technology from them so we can keep what's left of our government and industry functioning, on condition that they be allowed to implant monitoring chips so they know what we're doing and can avoid repeating our mistakes. ;-)
(Do I need the “sarcasm” tag?)
Newt is a visionary. He wants the private sector involved with the project and I predict that one day...years down the road..many will look back (after China has a base on the moon) and say that Newt was right and a man ahead of his time.