Skip to comments.Space travel emerges as wedge in Florida primary race
Posted on 01/28/2012 8:28:57 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
.....While Gingrich is floating space-travel plans at a staggering rate -- even for a candidate who's been teased for his frequently "grandiose" proposals -- Romney is proudly tamping down the dream.
After ridiculing Gingrich on Thursday for pushing expensive and allegedly outlandish proposals, the former Massachusetts governor on Friday suggested Gingrich was pandering. And, Romney conceded, he does not really have a space plan. Not yet, anyway. Rather, Romney committed to carefully creating one once he's president.
"In the politics of the past, to get your vote on the Space Coast, I'd come here and promise hundreds of billions of dollars -- yeah, you want to hear that, yeah. Or I'd lay out what my mission is, here's what we're going to accomplish. I'm not going to do that," Romney said.
The candidate said he is not going to tell Florida "what the mission will be," but "how I'm going to get there." He said he'd bring in experts from across the military, NASA, and leading institutions and businesses, and then create a plan.
It is a risky move on the Space Coast. Romney is trying to cast himself as the straight-talking, pragmatic and fiscally responsible candidate -- the one who doesn't just tell voters what they want to hear....
But Gingrich, based on the reaction of his audiences, seems to be feeding a spark in Florida. With the space industry facing massive layoffs following the end of the space shuttle program, Gingrich is urging Americans to dream big once again and likening his critics to those who would doubt John F. Kennedy or the Wright brothers.
"I am sick of being told we have to be timid," Gingrich told an enthusiastic crowd in Florida on Wednesday.
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You are joking and if not, buzz off.
It isn't just about inspiration. A large industrialized state like the US needs some sort of a driving engine for its economy i.e. an economy like ours cannot be based on building houses and cars. Since the end of WW-II, that driving engine has been what some call "War Incorporated"; the exploration of our solar system would be more productive than that.
Newt said Private Investment and Nasa, Private firms have the right to go and mine them. Part of the agenda in Davos Switzerland was on that very subject.
I’m not joking and I occasionally post this stuff for the benefit of people bright enough to check it out for themselves, which might mean learning to use image software. Sorry if that doesn’t include you.
Screw government spending projects - all we are asking for is Solyndra in space. Withdraw from the treaty.
Do you have broadband in your cave?
Screw government spending - we will get Solyndra in space. Withdraw from Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, Including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies of 1967.
You need to get familiar with the Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, Including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies of 1967.
Asteroid Mining: Key to the Space Economy
by Mark Sonter, National Space Society
Date: 09 February 2006 Time: 06:51 AM ET
However, it is man's inspiration that has driven civilization forward. Our greatest leaders inspired and had vision. As Newt pointed out in his speech, people laughed at Lincoln's idea of a railroad and the Wright brothers initial failures of flight.
I'm sure Romney would have fired the Wright brothers if they initially worked for him. Oh, and yes, our economy has been driven by building homes and cars until we exported that opportunity.
I can vouch for that. I was touring Europe at the time and wherever I went, people singled out Americans with smiles, cheers, free beers, congratulations. I swear I had nothing to do with getting those guys to the moon, but Europeans kept piling on the credit with great joy. Never saw such unanimous happiness before or since.
You need to read it, As I said Private companies and citizens have the right to mine them irregardless of the treaty
Read it here.
1972 was like Columbus getting to the new world - both financed by, more or less, public money. The United States became what it was, and Europe profited beyond immagination, because financial innovations permitted for profit expeditions. Profiting from the new world did not happen right away.
As it stands now, the Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, Including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies of 1967 completely inhibits investment in extra terrestrial for profit ventures. Nothing will ever happen until we withdraw from the treaty.
Nobody in their right mind would put venture capital in a for profit extraterrestrial venture with the 1967 Treaty on the Exploration and Use of Outer Space being what it is.
>>Apollo and the U.S. moon landings riveted the world.
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With enough duct-tape, determination, and American FREEDOM - anything is possible.
your just hearing yourself. The USA never ratified the Moon treaty. Sound like you just dont like the idea of Newt being close to the right side on this.
Lunar base illustration
Extracting resources from the Moon could run afoul of the Moon Treaty even if its done by a country that hasnt signed onto or ratified the accord. (credit: NASA)
The Moon Treaty: failed international law or waiting in the shadows?
by Michael Listner
Monday, October 24, 2011
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In his essay Is a human asteroid mission a non-starter? (The Space Review, October 17, 2011), Anthony Young explored whether a mission to an asteroid planned by the Obama Administration is captivating enough to retain public interest until its planned launch in 2025. In the ensuing commentary, several people discussed the issue of resource exploitation, with this author postulating that, aside from the technical and economic challenges to exploiting mineral resources on asteroids, the current state of international law, specifically the Moon Treaty 1979, might be an obstacle.
The discussion drew the critique that the Moon Treaty is not binding international law since the United States, the Russian Federation, and the Peoples Republic of China (PRC) have neither signed, acceded to, nor ratified the Moon Treaty. This essay will briefly explore the nature of international law, the Moon Treaty of 1979, and the weight of that accord in the context of international law.
So tell me how you would write a disclosure on the material risks posed by the Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, Including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies of 1967 to a for profit venture seeking to raise publicly and how that may effect the price of your offering. Then I will talk to you about broadband.
>>Nothing will ever happen until we withdraw from the treaty.
Did the Chinese Communists get that memo?
With money saved from reduced spending on our social programs, we'll be able to build spaceships again.
Wake up the funding is private Industry, Mining companies and the equipment companies are allready involved in thees studies
So quit with the Demo chat about the elderly cuts.