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NEWT’S MOONBASE Could Provide Enough Helium-3 to Power ENTIRE US For Years
Gateway Pundit ^ | January 28,2012 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 01/28/2012 9:07:59 AM PST by Hojczyk

Newt Gingrich told Floridians this week that that under his administration the US would have the first permanent base on the moon. An American moon base could provide America with enough Helium-3 to provide for all of country’s energy needs

Nations and private companies are racing to be the first to scout the moon for Helium 3, a rare gas which could make almost unlimited, clean fusion energy a reality.

Some experts estimate there a millions of tons in lunar soil — and that a single Space-Shuttle load would power the entire United States for a year. Both China and Russia have stated their nations’ interest in helium-3.

A moon base could also provide America with several rare earth elements. Discovery reported:

As Discovery News reports, thanks to a critical shortage last year, the price of the isotope helium-3 has skyrocketed from $150 per liter to $5,000 per liter.

Helium is used for arc welding and leak detection, mostly, although NASA uses it to pressurize space shuttle fuel tanks. Liquid helium cools infrared detectors, nuclear reactors, and the superconducting magnets used in MRI machines, too. The fear is that, at current consumption rates, that underground bunker will be empty within 20 years, leaving the earth almost helium-free by the end of the 21st century. This could be bad for US industry.

It also bodes ill for the prospect of fusion using helium-3, a rare helium isotope that is missing a neutron. Physicists have yet to achieve pure helium-3 fusion, but if they did, we’d have a clean, virtually infinite power source. Or so the theory goes.

And that’s where the moon comes in. The moon’s lunar soil is chock-full of helium reserves, thanks to the solar wind.

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KEYWORDS: fusion; he3; helium3; stringtheory
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1 posted on 01/28/2012 9:08:00 AM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

for later


2 posted on 01/28/2012 9:11:48 AM PST by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Hojczyk
Some experts estimate there a millions of tons in lunar soil — and that a single Space-Shuttle load would power the entire United States for a year. Both China and Russia have stated their nations’ interest in helium-3.

Mining the moon ..... I can hear the enviro-wackos starting up the alert sirens now!

3 posted on 01/28/2012 9:11:49 AM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: Hojczyk
It also bodes ill for the prospect of fusion using helium-3, a rare helium isotope that is missing a neutron. Physicists have yet to achieve pure helium-3 fusion, but if they did, we’d have a clean, virtually infinite power source. Or so the theory goes.

So in other words, helium 3 fusion is twenty years in the future regardless of how much we have?

4 posted on 01/28/2012 9:13:51 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Hojczyk

Truthfully? Instead of spending trillions for a moon base, I’d like to see effort exerted at removing SCHIP, SNAP, AFDC, EITC, SSI, SSDI, Section 8, and providing substantive and results-oriented judgement at getting our leeches off subsistence. We CANNOT do both.


5 posted on 01/28/2012 9:14:38 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Hojczyk

Newt mentioned on Greta last night that the moon had water. That to transport water from the moon would be easier due to the gravity resistance, if we were indeed working space.


6 posted on 01/28/2012 9:16:02 AM PST by hoosiermama
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To: MissMagnolia
Mining the moon ..... I can hear the enviro-wackos starting up the alert sirens now!

It might threaten the habitat of the Barking Moonbat.

7 posted on 01/28/2012 9:18:13 AM PST by digger48
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To: Lx

Better add at least 10 years on top of that while we try to extricate ourselves from the outer space treaty.


8 posted on 01/28/2012 9:20:18 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Hojczyk

I’m sorry, I LIKE the fact that innovative ideas MIGHT HAVE A CHANCE to become reality again.


9 posted on 01/28/2012 9:21:37 AM PST by NordP (Common Sense ConservaTEAves - Love of Country, Less Govt, Stop Spending, No Govt Run Health Care!!!)
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To: cripplecreek

I forgot about that. What is the deal, no commercial exploitation of space except for satellites and a space station?

Of course we would be the only ones to honor the agreement.


10 posted on 01/28/2012 9:25:47 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Hojczyk

Cost/Benefit???

No way bringing He back from the moon would ever be cost effective.


11 posted on 01/28/2012 9:28:33 AM PST by G Larry (We need Bare Knuckles Newt to fight this battle.)
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To: Gaffer

Give the leeches jobs on the moon.
Problems solved.


12 posted on 01/28/2012 9:29:48 AM PST by Adder (Say NO to the O in 2 oh 12)
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To: Hojczyk

I am all for Newt’s moonbase. Especially if we can get them to vote Republican. With millions of illegals coming across our borders and lining up to vote democrat, we need all the votes we can get!


13 posted on 01/28/2012 9:33:57 AM PST by 2nd Amendment
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To: Hojczyk
Helium is used for arc welding and leak detection, mostly, although NASA uses it to pressurize space shuttle fuel tanks. Liquid helium cools infrared detectors, nuclear reactors, and the superconducting magnets used in MRI machines, too.

It also makes you talk like Donald Duck.

14 posted on 01/28/2012 9:34:06 AM PST by Fido969
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To: MissMagnolia
Mining the moon ..... I can hear the enviro-wackos starting up the alert sirens now!

But mining the Moon would endanger all the plants and animals. /S

15 posted on 01/28/2012 9:39:49 AM PST by Lockbox
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To: Lx

I would have been a lot more impressed if Gingrich had promised to get us out of the outer space treaty and give industry the go ahead to claim tracts of land and asteroids in space if they can put feet on them and utilize them.

I’m OK with funding NASA as a pure exploration, pathfinding, and prospecting agency in the manner of Lewis and Clark.

If liberals really wanted to save the earth, they would be screaming for the industrialization of space. What better way to end metals mining on earth than mining metal rich asteroids. What better way to get rid of industrial pollution and waste than manufacturing in space.


16 posted on 01/28/2012 9:42:14 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

Saving this! thanks for a great find.


17 posted on 01/28/2012 9:53:59 AM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Hojczyk
Having grown up within 1/2 hr distance wise from a major supplier to the Apollo Program, we were alway told of what came out of the space program as commerical spin offs, via local media.

Tang, heart monitors, Velcro, advances in printed circuitry (that may have lead to the microchip when you think of it), to name 4 of them.

The point is Newt is siting "helium" but he needs to get more macro about the life changing commerical spin offs that will come from pushing the envelope of science to meet the goals of this mission.

He is right, I am not sure he is selling it properly.

18 posted on 01/28/2012 10:00:30 AM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: Hojczyk

if this is true, it’s incredible. I support the idea!


19 posted on 01/28/2012 10:03:39 AM PST by sit-rep
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To: MissMagnolia
I can hear the enviro-wackos starting up the alert sirens now!

If GITMO's off limits to them how much influence could they have on the moon.

20 posted on 01/28/2012 10:10:11 AM PST by tsowellfan (If its between Obama and Romney, there isnt all that much difference - George Soros)
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To: Doctor 2Brains
One of my favorite quotes is from Herman Melville's White Jacket.

"We are the pioneers of the world; the advance guard sent on through the wilderness of untried things..."

In the book he is speaking about what it is we are as Americans and what it means to be an American.

This was written over 150 years ago and is still true to this day. As Americans, it is in our very blood to explore the unknown, to push the envelope and never settle for what we have, instead to strive for what could be.

To cut away from our drive to explore(even if it is for financial reasons) is the most un-American thing I can think of. It's who we are and what truly makes us special in this world. It's why every one of our ancestors pulled up their roots from wherever they came from and bet everything on this Country.

Space is the frontier now and to explore it is who we are, and who we have always been.

21 posted on 01/28/2012 10:11:58 AM PST by MarketR
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To: Hojczyk

bttt


22 posted on 01/28/2012 10:16:48 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: cripplecreek
I have no problem funding Nasa if they are doing engineering to exploit space like replacing the space shuttle; Muslim outreach, that's for social services not Nasa.

I'm still angry that they killed the shuttle without a replacement. Yes it was dangerous but I and probably every astronaut would ride it into space regardless. There are risks to everything we do. This thinking that everything should be risk free is ridiculous. A great goal, no doubt, but it shouldn't stop all activity. When Alan Shepard sat in the first Mercury capsule waiting for launch, he knew how dangerous it was and how many failures there were but he did it anyway. I didn't know he died from leukemia in 1998 according to wiki.

Do they even have swing-sets on playgrounds these days or are they deemed too dangerous?

I would have been a lot more impressed if Gingrich had promised to get us out of the outer space treaty and give industry the go ahead to claim tracts of land and asteroids in space if they can put feet on them and utilize them.

I agree. With our current plans and administration, we'll be the last to get there and probably riding on a Russian or Chinese launch vehicle.

23 posted on 01/28/2012 10:17:54 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Hojczyk
It also bodes ill for the prospect of fusion using helium-3, a rare helium isotope that is missing a neutron. Physicists have yet to achieve pure helium-3 fusion, but if they did, we’d have a clean, virtually infinite power source. Or so the theory goes.

This is going to be portrayed as right wing wackiness. Sort of their version of the Bullet Train and Windmill agenda.

It's hard enough to figure if cold fusion is viable.

Get a laboratory version using H-3 fusion working, scale it; then it will be good to consider moon mining. Then, private money would at least partly pay.

24 posted on 01/28/2012 10:24:17 AM PST by cicero2k
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To: taildragger
Velcro wasn't a benefit of the space program. I always thought it was until I saw a show, I think it was an episode of Modern Marvels and they were showing what the space program spin offs were and they had a test before going to commercial on which products were from the space program and Velcro was on the list. When they came back from commercial, it said that it wasn't.

From Wiki:

Velcro is the brand name of the first commercially marketed fabric hook-and-loop fastener,[1] invented in 1948 by the Swiss electrical engineer George de Mestral. De Mestral patented Velcro in 1955, subsequently refining and developing its practical manufacture until its commercial introduction in the late 1950s.

I could have sworn it was a benefit from the space program but it's not, weird, eh???

25 posted on 01/28/2012 10:24:32 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Lx

My grandfather had lots of business dealings with Jim McDivitt (Gemini 4 and Apollo 9). I know he was a big supporter of industrializing space as a means of expansion.

There were always kids around at the informal business lunches and men’s breakfast at the church and he always told us that we might work in space some day.


26 posted on 01/28/2012 10:28:14 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Lx
If we are to move forward at all, we need a long range goal. Frankly we have reached the point where technology has rendered manned orbital activities unnecessary. They even are talking about the International Space Station coming down in five years or so--I guess nobody really needs it anymore. A permanent station on the moon is the more-than-obvious next step. I doubt the timeline of 8 years but so what--it's the idea that counts.
27 posted on 01/28/2012 10:36:05 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: cripplecreek
My grandfather had lots of business dealings with Jim McDivitt (Gemini 4 and Apollo 9). I know he was a big supporter of industrializing space as a means of expansion.

There were always kids around at the informal business lunches and men’s breakfast at the church and he always told us that we might work in space some day.

How cool is that?

I remember those days when the future was wide open, what happened to that, guilty liberals?

28 posted on 01/28/2012 10:36:53 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
They even are talking about the International Space Station coming down in five years or so...

What's a couple of billions here and there matter? What a waste; are we going to let the orbit decay like Skylab and Mir? The fact that we have to hitch a ride on a Russian rocket is pathetic.

Now that we've spent so much money, keep it up there until it literally falls apart. It's modular and they've proven they can work in space so what's the problem? I think the idea was floated from the Russians simply so that we'd have to give them more money.

29 posted on 01/28/2012 10:42:19 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Lx

I think McDivitt is where I learned that even a failure is a success if you learn from it. They failed in one objective of Gemini 4 to attempt the first space rendezvous with the second stage of the rocket that launched them.

However they did do some other things that saved lives later on like the first attempt at using a sextant for navigation in space. Ed White made the first space walk on that flight too.


30 posted on 01/28/2012 10:54:21 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Hojczyk

Somebody going to tell me where we’ve got all the fusion reactors we’re going to fuel with this stuff?

Seriously, researchers have been playing with tokamaks and the like for decades, and as best I recall, we haven’t even been able to sustain a fusion reaction for a whole second.


31 posted on 01/28/2012 11:19:03 AM PST by Stosh
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"So in other words, helium 3 fusion is twenty years in the future…"
The predictability and grasp of our future is in logarithmic proportion to our willingness to shun the norm,
…unfettered by reward or acknowledgement, without fear of either embarrassment or denigration.
What was unthinkable only a decade ago is so common a thing today as to be held with total regarded as unimportant.
Don't sell the American entrepreneur short… or sumpin' like dat.
32 posted on 01/28/2012 11:19:03 AM PST by bksanders (I think I just had my backslashed on a carriage return)
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To: Hojczyk
Newt Gingrich alone could provide enough hot air to power a 300MW power station.

Newt Gingrich: Gasbag

33 posted on 01/28/2012 11:20:38 AM PST by OldCorps
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To: Hojczyk

We should be in a position to land on the moon at a moments notice.

#ck the entitlement crowd that makes such novel operations a financial impossibility.


34 posted on 01/28/2012 11:22:19 AM PST by Gene Eric (C'mon, Virginia -- are you with us or against us?!)
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To: OldCorps

>> gasbag

Then what do you propose we do regarding POTUS 2012?


35 posted on 01/28/2012 11:24:36 AM PST by Gene Eric (C'mon, Virginia -- are you with us or against us?!)
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To: Hojczyk; All
Newt Discusses the Facts and Florida With Greta
Newt speaks about this topic in this interview.
36 posted on 01/28/2012 11:27:48 AM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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37 posted on 01/28/2012 11:29:03 AM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: Lx

It’s my understanding that the idea for Velcro came from a type of weed seed that sticks to clothing or fur.


38 posted on 01/28/2012 11:29:18 AM PST by Western Phil
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To: Hojczyk

newt’s behind the curve on nuclear energy. the real deal is thorium. There’s immense quantities of thorium here in the USA and elsewhere on earth. There’s also plenty on the moon and mars.

what’s more there have already been experimental reactors developed to use it. thorium reactors were jewels in the crown of the US nuclear program during its heyday from the 40’ to the early 70’s. a democrat even briefly ran for office on the sole plank of pushing thorium energy. because is cheap and safe and easy to make (compared to uranium).


39 posted on 01/28/2012 11:56:51 AM PST by ckilmer
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To: Gene Eric
Then what do you propose we do regarding POTUS 2012?

I propose the Republican party nominate anyone who is non establishment Republican: Santorum, Palin, General Petreus, any army officer, or other professional person who is not a liaryar for that matter. I'm sick of beltway types who have been ensconced in D.C. since forever.

Military officers have a wide range of experience and bring a lot to the table.

Just my two cents since you asked.

Fregards,

OC

40 posted on 01/28/2012 12:45:33 PM PST by OldCorps
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To: digger48

And how bout that religion that kills...ah worships under the name of their pedophile moon god. Now that would involve them in NASA and our rocket ships would quickly become giant EIDs.


41 posted on 01/28/2012 1:37:43 PM PST by mcshot (Voter fraud will be the doom of the Republic as desired by the Lib Dems.)
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To: MissMagnolia

EARTH FIRST. (we’ll mine the other planets later)


42 posted on 01/28/2012 1:46:04 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: Lx

We will in the not to distant future achieve it though and it will take that long to build the infrastructure to mine it on the moon. Plus there are other uses for it I’m sure. From what I have read the fusion reaction would produce electrons directly and no harmful radiation. I’d rather we were spending the money we have sunk into solar and wind to try and achieve HE3 fusion. Think about it. If we are going to have fusion power in 20-30 years solar and wind will be so obsolete that no one will want them. Why when one clean reactor could replace hundreds of square miles of wind turbines. I say we burn coal and oil like it’s going out of style. Drill as much as we can because in hopefully 30 years we will have the ultimate power source and the stronger our economy is the faster we will get to reliable fusion.


43 posted on 01/28/2012 3:49:44 PM PST by albionin
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To: Hojczyk

BUMO for later read


44 posted on 01/28/2012 5:01:47 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: AdmSmith; bvw; callisto; ckilmer; dandelion; ganeshpuri89; gobucks; KevinDavis; Las Vegas Dave; ...

Thanks Hojczyk, but there's no use for Helium-3, because there's no controlled fusion. Perhaps, someday, there will be, but there's literallly nothing in the foreseeable future, and this has been worked on using a number of approaches over the past 60+ years.

String Theory Ping, but without one of the usual logos (I would have used the phony periodic table, if that helps).

Sun in a Bottle: The Strange History of Fusion and the Science of Wishful Thinking Sun in a Bottle:
The Strange History of Fusion
and the Science of Wishful Thinking

by Charles Seife


45 posted on 01/29/2012 8:46:45 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Does that “sun in a bottle” book mention the muonium fusion scam too?


46 posted on 01/29/2012 10:21:55 AM PST by bvw
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To: SunkenCiv

Rush Holt, US Rep (D-NJ): “From 1989 until his successful congressional campaign in 1998, Holt was the Assistant Director of the Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory at Princeton University, the University’s largest research facility and the largest center for energy research in New Jersey.”

It seems that Mr. Holt was in the middle of the Big Fusion Con Job. For it is almost certainly a huge con job of science.


47 posted on 01/29/2012 10:47:40 AM PST by bvw
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To: bvw

Thanks bvw.


48 posted on 01/29/2012 11:54:03 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: Hojczyk
Nations and private companies are racing to be the first to scout the moon for Helium 3, a rare gas which could make almost unlimited, clean fusion energy a reality.

There was actually a recent SciFi film that dealt with this subject. The movie was Moon. Click on the image to go to the IMDb review.



Be forewarned the trailers have spoilers in them. This was a very low budget film that was a sleeper. My Wife does not like SciFi, but she found this film immensely interesting.

If you can get a copy it is very much worth the watch (a couple of times). The plot line is haunting.
49 posted on 01/29/2012 12:25:23 PM PST by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; ELS; ToxicMich; Cronos; Art in Idaho; perplyone; TheOldLady; Oiao; nepppen; ...



50 posted on 01/29/2012 3:15:13 PM PST by KevinDavis (Ron Paul called Ronald Reagan a miserable failure.....)
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