Denver appeals court upholds military impostor law ( Stolen Valor Act )

ap ^ | January 27, 2012

[kearnyirish2]

I am in no way defending anyone who 1) steals benefits not earned, 2) lies to obtain veterans’ preference in hiring, 3) in any way financially defrauds an organization (or the government) with such claims. If the government wanted to outlaw wearing military uniforms by non-military personnel, I’d have much less of a problem with that than a law that restricts speech in any way. We’re already in a country where ethnic minorities are allowed to use a slew of words that are outright criminal offenses if uttered by whites (through “intimidation” and “bullying” legislation); I don’t see a point in pushing that further.

At this point the country has become unrecognizable; as the post-Christian left marches on destroying our institutions I have little affinity left for a “country” in which we’ve criminalized “whiteness” and Judeo-Christian values. The latest assault on religious liberty by this “president” standing in front of the American flag should open peoples’ eyes.

[trebb]

If someone is misrepresenting themselves in a legal matter (including a job application where they are attesting that statements are true, or to qualify for a material gain/benefits), then they are either breaking an existing law or subject to firing already. If a law was designed specifically to sworn statements and such, I’d be more receptive to it. Otherwise, we’ve just added another group to the latter in terms of “All animals are equal; some are more equal than others”. Every new law is another link in the chains that shackle us (including those that fund both the government making the law and the military it alledgedly will protect).

Would it not be fraud for someone to claim to be a veteran and accept anything of value for it? If they only make the claim, then turn down the handouts, I can live with it. If they make the claim, then accept "gifts" that would otherwise not be offered, they commit theft.

It has nothing to do with Orwellian philosophy.

[kearnyirish2]

“Would it not be fraud for someone to claim to be a veteran and accept anything of value for it? If they only make the claim, then turn down the handouts, I can live with it. If they make the claim, then accept “gifts” that would otherwise not be offered, they commit theft.”

In this day & age there is no reason for anyone to receive gifts without those bestowing them doing their due diligence; it isn’t difficult to screen people like this. I’m sure it is a crime to have a fraudulent military ID or discharge papers. Theft of government benefits is also already illegal.