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Romney leads in Fla., but obstacles loom large
boston.com ^ | January 29, 2012 | Michael Kranish

Posted on 01/29/2012 7:20:17 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper

MIAMI - Florida’s voters effectively ended Mitt Romney’s presidential dream four years ago. He won in only about one-third of the 67 counties, gained the support of only 9 percent of Cuban Americans, rejected advice from local advisers, and misplayed the ideological landscape.

Now the political battlefield, the issues, and the competition are different - but the stakes in Tuesday’s vote are even higher as the one-time front-runner battles to regain his primacy against the candidate who has emerged as his chief challenger, Newt Gingrich. After Romney was sent reeling by Gingrich’s victory a week ago in South Carolina, he has used a barrage of attacks in debates and television commercials to pull ahead in several recent Florida polls.

In order to win, analysts said, Romney must find a way to pick up support in what are considered several states within the state. There are swaths of traditionally conservative areas that may be most hospitable to Gingrich; condos filled with snowbirds from the north and Midwest that could be tilted to Romney; economically distressed suburbs and cities along the state’s midsection that are up for grabs; and a Hispanic community that is diverse and divided.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: cuba; florida; gingrich; mittromney; newtgingrich
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1 posted on 01/29/2012 7:20:22 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
The contest could be determined by a factor that didn’t exist in 2008: the Tea Party movement.

2 posted on 01/29/2012 7:22:45 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (#withNewt)
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Republican presidential hopeful, former Speaker Newt Gingrich, delivers remarks during a Hispanic Town Hall January 28, at the Centro de la Familia church in Orlando, Florida. Florida's nearly four million retirees wield extraordinary voting power in the upcoming Republican presidential primary, but many face a dilemma with leading candidates tempted to cut their benefits.
3 posted on 01/29/2012 7:25:34 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (#withNewt)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Yes, Indeed.


4 posted on 01/29/2012 7:25:58 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I keep seeing Romney being hailed as the leader, but I swear, I have yet to run across anyone who will admit to voting for him.

Don’t let the establishment pick our candidates for us, folks!!


5 posted on 01/29/2012 7:29:04 AM PST by AnnGora (I'm suing my tagline for sexual harrassment.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

When the faith issue comes up in the fall, and what Romney really believes, Obama will be laughing. Obama of course has no faith except in himself, but this is a serious issue that cannot be glossed over.


6 posted on 01/29/2012 7:29:51 AM PST by CanadianBloodAmericanHeart
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To: AnnGora

That’s good news, Ann, thanks!

That’s their propaganda - keep repeating what they want but not reality. We can’t let our minds take in their garbage.


7 posted on 01/29/2012 7:32:32 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Berlin_Freeper

TV in N. Florida has been wall to wall smear ads by Romney against Newt. I can’t wait for it to be over. Just an observation, Romney seems to lack a plan to campaign with, all his ads do is smear the opposition.


8 posted on 01/29/2012 7:34:57 AM PST by swamprebel (Where liberty dwells, there is my country.)
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To: CanadianBloodAmericanHeart

I don’t know the beliefs of mormonism. But if Mitt is any indication of it, lies/deception must be not only be acceptable but promoted. Does LDS mean - LieDailySinners?


9 posted on 01/29/2012 7:37:04 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Berlin_Freeper

What angers me to no end is the constant mainstream media mantra here in Florida, and this even includes Fox News, that ALL Hispanic voters and the Hispanic voting population are automatically sympathetic to amnesty for illegal aliens. This couldn’t be further from the truth as many polls have shown in the past, yet the chattering class CONTINUES to ram this down the public’s throat, implying continually that if any candidate refuses to embrace amnesty for illegals, he will lose the Hispanic vote and the election. Newt is correct in attacking the media, the American press is now no better than the propaganda machine the Nazis had.


10 posted on 01/29/2012 7:37:52 AM PST by 4Runner
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To: presently no screen name

“I don’t know the beliefs of mormonism. But if Mitt is any indication of it...”

...agreed. He’s no different from Harry Reid.


11 posted on 01/29/2012 7:43:40 AM PST by albie
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Florida’s voters Charlie Crist effectively ended Mitt Romney’s presidential dream four years ago.

If folks can recall, back in '08, Romney was THE conservative candidate against McNuts but Crist endorsed Romney the day before the primaries. And Crist, being very popular at the time, handed the nomination to McNuts with the endorsement.

My how times have changed! Mittens is now the liberal in the field! And, Crist is gone a lawyerin' for a firm (Morgan & Morgan) that backs Bowbama! Oh, the crazy, crazy world of politics!

12 posted on 01/29/2012 7:45:00 AM PST by Bushbacker1
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To: presently no screen name

Lying actually is a part of it. Mormon missionaries are told to respond to questions about Mormonism by saying or, worse, not answering the question but implying that it is just another form of Protestant Christianity. It’s not, and even Mormons know that if they tell people the truth about the beliefs of their cult, their potential converts will either burst out laughing or run screaming.


13 posted on 01/29/2012 7:45:43 AM PST by livius
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To: swamprebel

I hope Romney reached the point of overkill with his ads and that they have the opposite effect and all his money BACKFIRES big time. Praying for Newt.

Before SC, it was the be all end all, IF Romney won it, it was OVER, now that Newt won, it isn’t over. I’ve even heard them say IF Newt wins FL, it still isn’t over. But IF Romney wins, it is over as the next few states will be Romney’s. They spin spin spin til they make me dizzy.


14 posted on 01/29/2012 7:48:58 AM PST by Qwackertoo (Gingrich/West 2012)
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To: presently no screen name
Does LDS mean LieDailySinners?

As a matter of fact that is what they are allowed to do. They are allowed to lie to Gentiles those who are not mormons. If an issue gets to close to the truth, Mitt changes the subject.

But Mitt can't escape Santorums constant Romneycare attacks, that's when Mitt gets very nervous & squirmy, "We don't have to get mad" he says, rofl.

15 posted on 01/29/2012 7:53:27 AM PST by annieokie
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To: swamprebel

It would be nice if Mitt Romney would tell me what he stands for, instead of how he thinks about Newt.
Romney has been on both sides of so many issues, and though I allow that people can change their minds, Romney hasn’t really invested in telling Floridians who he is, what he now believes, and his plan for the future.
In 2008 many bought the unknown, I hope buyer’s remorse will help people decide about the unknown in 2012.


16 posted on 01/29/2012 7:58:27 AM PST by swamprebel (Where liberty dwells, there is my country.)
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To: AnnGora

If the establishment succeeds in choosing our nominee again, true conservatives must, IMHO find a new home.

Or make our own.


17 posted on 01/29/2012 7:58:36 AM PST by glasseye
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To: presently no screen name
I don’t know the beliefs of mormonism. But if Mitt is any indication of it, lies/deception must be not only be acceptable but promoted. Does LDS mean - LieDailySinners?

They claim to believe in Christ, but honor a fully human "prophet" - sounds similar to Islam without the "kill all non-bleievers" caveat.

18 posted on 01/29/2012 8:04:01 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: swamprebel

“It would be nice if Mitt Romney would tell me what he stands for, instead of how he thinks about Newt.”

Romney is all about his persona, not the issues. He looks good, speaks well, disciplined and knows his way with business data in debates. Perfect family life. All style and no substance.

That’s what many people vote for because ideas and actual record are too abstract.


19 posted on 01/29/2012 8:04:14 AM PST by ari-freedom (If SOPA/PIPA passes, we will lose our Free Republic.)
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To: annieokie
As a matter of fact that is what they are allowed to do

OMG! I didn't know that but that is mitt's mo! And Satan is the father of lies. It's obvious this race is Good vs. Evil - and now it confirms why I see him as a snake in the grass!

So now I see when others say wait until the left exposes mormonism - I thought, who would care. So now when they do it Barry will simply say, 'now folks what we have here is a man who is allowed by his faith to lie and deceive.' Amazing!! I doubt if 1% of the population knows that!! I thought romneycare alone would sink him. Is what you said written somewhere that romney cannot dispute it?

20 posted on 01/29/2012 8:06:00 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Berlin_Freeper.
Florida's voters effectively ended Mitt Romney's presidential dream four years ago. He won in only about one-third of the 67 counties, gained the support of only 9 percent of Cuban Americans, rejected advice from local advisers, and misplayed the ideological landscape... he has used a barrage of attacks in debates and television commercials...
He should have used the four years between 2008 and 2012 attacking Zero, instead of attacking Republicans.


21 posted on 01/29/2012 8:06:19 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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22 posted on 01/29/2012 8:10:00 AM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-Free zones are playgrounds for felons)
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To: presently no screen name

I’d say tithing is aka buying votes.


23 posted on 01/29/2012 8:15:21 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: presently no screen name
But if Mitt is any indication of it, lies/deception must be not only be acceptable but promoted.

It's called "milk before meat" and considered a holy duty.

24 posted on 01/29/2012 8:16:06 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Controlling RINOs in Congress is like herding cats; should we be surprised Newt got scratched?)
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To: annieokie

I just wish Sanitorum would band up with Newt against the RINO. The future is bleak otherwise.


25 posted on 01/29/2012 8:20:09 AM PST by BOBWADE (RINOs suck)
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To: BOBWADE

Band up? Only decent way is for RS to drop out and endorse Newt, like Perry did, before it’s too late. Then, the numbers would be QUITE different.


26 posted on 01/29/2012 8:28:22 AM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: trebb; annieokie

Yeah, I know about their Smith guy and their man made religion but didn’t realize they are allowed to lie. I mentioned it is because that is all Romney does. He has the worst record and is known for his backstabbing and lies. So the backstabbing and lies are condoned by his church - it’s no wonder he lies like he breathes - it comes so naturally to him.

It does sound like Islam - we are right and we can lie and kill for our greater good/beliefs.

One last question - is this common knowledge about mormonism and I’m the last to know or a sorta not so well kept ‘secret’?


27 posted on 01/29/2012 8:28:22 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: COBOL2Java
It's called "milk before meat" and considered a holy duty.

And milk being the easy part because there are deeper things to come. And holy duty? I'll just ask, did you forget the sarcasm tag? Say yes for my BP right now.

28 posted on 01/29/2012 8:34:23 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: AnnGora

Regardless of the “polls” IMO, this election will come down to the absentee votes...there were many of them in Florida. No idea of the breakdown between the Northern menace and those out of the country say on military duty but that is where the election will be won or lost.

Ann, I agree with you, I have yet to find anyone who said they have or are voting for Romney. On the other hand, looking at Newt’s body language the other night at the debate, it was one of someone who had received less than great news before the debate.

Romney has effectively cleared the field with his minions removing anyone who had a shot at him and perhaps Newt was the last to fall. The upcoming elections in February should be a Romney sweep as those are very pro RINO states or heavily Mormon like Nevada so it is imperative he be stopped here in Florida. I pray that happens.


29 posted on 01/29/2012 8:36:13 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Sacajaweau

Whew! And mitt is using money to buy this election/votes because his record is dismal.

A part of me thinks everyone is playing with me here and loading it on - except Mitt is a walking example of this. Right now, absorbing this all is over my pay grade.


30 posted on 01/29/2012 8:39:58 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name
And milk being the easy part because there are deeper things fantasies to come.

There, fixed it for you.

31 posted on 01/29/2012 8:43:07 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Controlling RINOs in Congress is like herding cats; should we be surprised Newt got scratched?)
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To: COBOL2Java
It's not sinful to lie to a potential convert about aspects of the mormon church they might find offensive (and everyone is a potential convert), it is a sin to reveal something about the church to a convert that prevents them from accepting mormonism. Because new converts aren't ready to accept the higher mysteries, they need to accept the simpler and easier to swallow teaching before they're ready to swallow the more secret doctrines. Milk before Meat. An indoctrination into codependency and total submission of yourself, your family, your finances, and your freewill. Even Romney had to ask the cultleaders' permission to run in politics, he's stated so in interviews. (I'm an ex-lds)

If people really wanted to know the truth, they would google "ex-mormon"...there are thousands of support groups for people leaving mormonism whose lives have been forever altered by this cult, and hundred of thousands of eyewitness testimonies and cult leadership documents. It's all at the push of a button, but 90% of people stop thinking when the mormon advertising ends.

Oh, and BTW...if you check out one of those sites and read about people whose lives were shattered by this cult?...mormons will tell you that a./ They're part of a global anti-mormon conspiracy, or b./ that the victims are in reality "couldn't hack the lifestyle (brainwashing)" and are jealous of true mormons' happiness and success, or c./ they profess ignorance of any such goings on anywhere in the momon church, say that things are totally different in their ward, and invite you to come...and join them for a glass of milk.

32 posted on 01/29/2012 8:47:43 AM PST by AnTiw1
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To: presently no screen name

I don’t think it’s common knowledge, but it sure will be if Romney gets the nomination. I don’t think people realize what a liability his religion really is. The media will be sure to investigate every nefarious and bizarre aspect of Mormonism.


33 posted on 01/29/2012 8:53:00 AM PST by conservativebuckeye
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To: AnTiw1

Thanks for the post - all very true. Glad you were able to escape. As for me, if individuals wish to align themselves with a gnostic cult like Mormonism, they can go ahead, but please don’t try to tell me Mormonism is Christian. It might work with the 90% of people you mention who don’t think beyond the slick advertising, but anyone with half a brain can discern the holes in Mormon theology.


34 posted on 01/29/2012 9:00:16 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Controlling RINOs in Congress is like herding cats; should we be surprised Newt got scratched?)
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-- is this common knowledge about mormonism and I'm the last to know or a sorta not so well kept `secret'? --

For the most part, Mormons are decent people, honest in their daily business. So are Scientologists.

So, the "secret" is one that doesn't even pop up in casual discourse. Most people focus on the polygamy part, and are never exposed to the details of Smith's history, etc.

As time marches on, Mormonism has lost most of the stigma it had when it started. Keep your nose clean long enough, and events of history are lost to memory.

I don't fault Romney for being a Mormon - it's easy enough to fault him for his mendacity, on its face. But Mormonism is "out there" as far as religions go. Way "out there."

35 posted on 01/29/2012 9:11:09 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: llandres

That is what I meant. A Newt/Rick ticket would really be a strong ticket.


36 posted on 01/29/2012 9:23:34 AM PST by BOBWADE (RINOs suck)
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To: Cboldt
So, the "secret" is one that doesn't even pop up in casual discourse.

Ok, but it will be exposed if he faces barry - that's a given! But is it written somewhere that he can't dispute it?

I don't fault Romney for being a Mormon -

I don't either but now I see why he is the way he is - he's allowed to be a liar, he's been give the pass as if it's a good thing.

it's easy enough to fault him for his mendacity, on its face.

FOR US, YES! But not those who support him - I doubt they know anything about him and their wish is for him to be the one to face obama. Like walking into the pit blinded. IMO, anyone supporting him are attracted to and drawn into evil because he reeks of it and they can't see it. Satan is the father of lies/deception and he deceived them, also. Good vs evil is a spiritual war.

37 posted on 01/29/2012 9:26:34 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: BOBWADE
Too many conservatives against the Rino for the primary. Recipe for disaster. Last time it was two rinos but now it is only one so it's high time for the conservatives to suck it up and fall in behind one conservative to take out Rino-Boy in the primary.
38 posted on 01/29/2012 9:29:14 AM PST by BOBWADE (RINOs suck)
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To: llandres

Received a Politico email advising the Palm Beach GOP Chair claims Herman Cain was scheduled to endorse Gingrich last night in Florida. Does anyone know if this happened? I haven’t seen any notice of it anywhere.


39 posted on 01/29/2012 9:29:50 AM PST by 4Runner
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To: presently no screen name
One last question - is this common knowledge about mormonism and I’m the last to know or a sorta not so well kept ‘secret’?

I believe it's more a "secret" of ignorance. Most folks think of polygamy when they think of Mormons, but don't bother with the roots of the movement that uses "we believe in Christ too" to disarm folks and acquire some legitimacy.

40 posted on 01/29/2012 9:37:56 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: 4Runner
Wall Street Journal
41 posted on 01/29/2012 9:41:17 AM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: trebb

Just wish them a “Merry Christmas”. That pretty much shuts them up.


42 posted on 01/29/2012 9:44:08 AM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: COBOL2Java

The muslims call it taqiyya!


43 posted on 01/29/2012 9:45:03 AM PST by Lady Lucky (A tea party in name only is worse than no tea party at all.)
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To: trebb
Exactly. Satan always uses something good to drawn people into his deception. He covers/wraps his deception into something good and members being part of it, they are unknowingly part of his lie. They are now in bondage to satan willingly whether they know it or not. And ignorance isn't an excuse for as God says, My people suffer for a lack of knowledge. They will suffer for not believing Him alone but man. But they will suffer because of their own decision.

And that's what mitt is doing. First claiming to be a conservative HA HA! and then even a republican - when his record is liberal. So he's deceiving those who aren't grounded in good beliefs also. He should never be on the R ticket - he and his ilk defames it. But that's by design.

What was once considered good - Grand Old Party - is now tainted BIG TIME. And they align themselves with the left - almost like they are one but keep some split ONLY for appearance sake to gather more in. We want to leave it because it left us because evil invaded it, also, as evil evades anything good to destroy it.

John 10:10 "The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I came that they may have life, and have it more abundantly." The thief being satan vs. God, the spirit of God. The thief stealing our God-given rights, our economy, our children through liberal education. What was once abundant, prosperous has faded. America was abundant-everyone wanted to come to America, now they are reducing it down - as even our credit rating is down. Who else but the R have been pro American. Now, even those who claim conservative are not either as evil has invaded that, also.

IMO, the GOP E really means the GOP Evil.

44 posted on 01/29/2012 10:14:10 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: 4Runner

Yes, he was in Florida last night on stage with Newt and Col West and he endorsed him. There was a live thread on it last night.

Newt gave an AWESOME speech!


45 posted on 01/29/2012 10:17:20 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: 4Runner

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2839522/posts

Here is one thread where you can hear his speech!!


46 posted on 01/29/2012 10:20:43 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

Prayer Thread for the country:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2839468/posts?q=1&;page=1


47 posted on 01/29/2012 10:22:43 AM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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Thank you, MM - this is MUCH needed!


48 posted on 01/29/2012 10:24:19 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

I am starting to think the real reason they hung Ceaucescu is not because he was a tyrant but because he paid “his” national debt, a big no no.

Many commies I see support Romney over Obama - or at least in appearance, because you never see what resignated suicidal people they are anyways in private. They are pragmatics. They say Romney made his own money, not Obama, and they do not want to go back to the misery of Ceaucescu types Occupy Wall Street.

Romney is a narcissist and that means that he is changing from a businessman in whom we would trust money to a political tyrant who is using money as a phallic symbol of his own attraction. That Romney and the GOP E is/are a penis and a greed, is obvious now.

I do not support Gingrich but the symbolics against establishment, the language... it puts their feet to the fire and reality.

The communist domino is falling all over the right. Obama being supported/defended by conservatives in the media was the big red flag.

It is my sincere belief, however, that money is not everything. ONce one is insane and with alzeimer, one is not liked. There is something about mental illness that frightens people. No matter how rich the douche bag is at the bar, how retardedly he uses money as a substitute for his temporary or permanent mental illness, he will still be shied away from, used and the mental sanity or understanding will prevail, even if it comes from a start-up pimp there.

In fact, a start up pimp in a bar will get accolades from the rich Romney and GOP E, and that is why these fools admire comunists.


49 posted on 01/29/2012 10:26:37 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: presently no screen name

Ping anybody you think would be interested - the fellowship of praying together is comforting & the power of prayer is amazing.


50 posted on 01/29/2012 10:26:47 AM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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