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Rasmussen in FL: Romney 44, Gingrich 28
HotAir ^ | 1/29/2012 | ED MORRISSEY

Posted on 01/29/2012 8:01:41 AM PST by TBBT

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To: GoCards

If Romney wins, I will hide under my bed. Better yet, I will go the Newt’s moon base- and hide under my bed.


151 posted on 01/29/2012 9:43:16 AM PST by Krankor (It's time you started thinking inside your head, that you should you stand up and fight.)
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To: TBBT; TexasFreeper2009; Gator113
Newt did beat the Real Clear Politics average by 7 points in South Carolina as he rode the big Mo.

I am afraid this time the GOP onslaught, FOX and conservative talkies and Drudge have done their damage....and his debate performance was soft.

All the polls show Newt down sharply and beyond any recovery at this point baring a Truman/Dewey scenario.

Unless Santorum dropped out very publicly tonight or tomorrow and endorsed Newt passionately.

and the pressure on Santorum not to do that from the very folks who have so wounded Newt must be enormous.

hence...where to go from here?

IF Newt stays strong nationally, continues to get funding and Santorum shows so weakly in FL that he does finally withdraw then Newt is till in it.

Romney will likely at that point refuse to debate much if any and let the media campaign for him and deny Newt a platform.

at that point the only ones who could push Newt over the finish line will be Rush Limbaugh, Sarah on the ground and not so tepidly and Levin and maybe some others.

Hate to be so dismal but running against the leftist Media and a leaning leftist “what culture war?” GOP and FOX etc is a very very tall order.
I have my doubts Magnus could have done it in 1980 had Bush the First had such a political army and funding on his side.

I'm done with them...locally and statewide yes...but I fear the GOP cannot be changed from within. It is a northern US beltway party...California used to be a a power source to balance that but it's gone. Reagan was an anomaly they had to tolerate.

there are no big primaries in the next month to favor Newt...Georgia is over a month and Texas 2 months...good thing for Mittens Texas is not up front

the rest are purple states or blue states till then..places like Florida that will favor Mitt

I'm sorry

152 posted on 01/29/2012 9:43:27 AM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: Jukeman

You’re right, not presumptive, delusional ...


153 posted on 01/29/2012 9:45:45 AM PST by j.argese (Newt ... the Nixon of our time ...)
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To: Proudcongal

Going around Florida telling lies about Newt saying he left congress in disgrace. The guy is a NWO sellout working for the “man” who is shafting us all.


154 posted on 01/29/2012 9:45:53 AM PST by Carry me back
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To: TBBT

I’ll go ahead and suggest Rasmussen is just more of the same cabal of Rino “opinion leaders” who we’re supposed to believe doesn’t have an agenda.

Sorry. Scott.

I don’t believe you.


155 posted on 01/29/2012 9:47:46 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Escape the Rino preserve!)
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To: TBBT

Mitt Romney, if nominated, will represent the GOP’s de facto endorsement of Obamacare. I can’t believe that out of all the guys the GOP could have put up to face Obama, we’re going with the one who completely removes Obamacare as a campaign issue. Absolutely pathetic and inexcusable.


156 posted on 01/29/2012 9:48:06 AM PST by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: wardaddy
Santorum has none of Newt's personal baggage. Both have checkered voting records and certainly not the most conservative records. I attribute that to the fact that both were in leadership positions and had different dynamics pushing them more to the center than either one of them probably liked.

My biggest problem with Newt is amnesty, which he currently supports. I am also concerned that the Dems will really go after him on his reprimand from the House, the only sitting speaker ever to suffer such a rebuke. The vote in the House was 395 to 28. Over 85% of Gingrich's GOP colleagues in the House voted for the reprimand. It is very hard to spin that fact even if the charges were trumped up and politically motivated.

The 2012 election should be a referendum on Obama and his policies. We can't allow the Dems to distract us with attacks on our candidates so that we spend more time going over past issues with the GOP candidate on the defensive. I fear that we will be fighting the past war on Newt's baggage with the help of the MSM, and not enough time and effort going after Obama. If Obama gets another four years, this country is finished.

157 posted on 01/29/2012 9:49:27 AM PST by kabar
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To: wardaddy

Yeah there has to be another party to rise. The GOP has always been about getting money into a few hands and that is about it. They couldn’t care less about social values, except working for them. They are the biggest problem in America because they offer no alternative. They are the enablers of the left.


158 posted on 01/29/2012 9:49:59 AM PST by Carry me back
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To: Thane_Banquo

Mitt sucks. And truth is Newt is not a very pricipled man. I may not vote in the Presidential race, but I won’t jump on the latest FR bandwagon either.


159 posted on 01/29/2012 9:50:33 AM PST by Matt Hatter
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To: kabar

IMHO your biggest problem with Newt is you can’t find a Santorum thread to post on.

Just saying.


160 posted on 01/29/2012 9:51:07 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Escape the Rino preserve!)
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To: kabar

What baggage is this that hasn’t been checked already? We understand that he is twice divorced. I also understand that Jefferson had relations with his slaves.

Get over it.


161 posted on 01/29/2012 9:53:08 AM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: ari-freedom

Here is how we got had.

Early on the conservatives interested put all their chips on Palin. They waited...and they waited and counted on her to run.

Meanwhile Bachmann, Cain, Perry, Santorum all officially entered the race.

The conservatives were still waiting on Palin... waiting...so in order to clear the path for Palin, the conservatives, with a little help from the all too willing establishment helped discredit all the others in the race. Why not, the establishment realized Palin wasn’t going to enter.

The path to winning was right in front of them. Who is stopping it other than Newt? They knew Newt had more baggage to ruin him than all the others. Piece of cake.

So now all that is standing in Romneys way is a flawed guy like Newt.

I myself think Romney stinks, but we got here and there is a reason why we did.


162 posted on 01/29/2012 9:53:17 AM PST by dforest
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To: Carry me back
Newt will probably do better in other states. In Minn he had a 50-29 lead over Mitts

Yeah, but when was the poll taken? I wonder why there are no recent polls on the upcoming elections? Most likely because Newt is doing so well, but I fear once Florida is over, any Newt lead will evaporate.

163 posted on 01/29/2012 9:53:17 AM PST by Proudcongal (NEWT/PERRY or NEWT/SANTORUM or NEWT/PALIN 2012!)
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To: TBBT

On the critical issue of electability, Romney has prevailed mightily. He gets the nod over Gingrich as the best opponent to Obama by almost 2-1, 53/29. He also has a double-digit lead on the question of which would be more likely to keep campaign promises, 38/21, perhaps a backfire from Gingrich’s moon-base promises to Floridians — a case where pandering fell victim to reality.

In other words, Floridians have completely bought in to the “only Romney can beat Obama” BS, and they also have given up on NASA. OK, Florida, a Newt administration will just launch shuttles from another state once he rebuilds NASA. He gave you first dibs, and you decided to vote for the creator of socialized medicine in the U.S. instead.

Did we really expect Florida voters to make a wise choice?


164 posted on 01/29/2012 9:56:11 AM PST by Windy City Conservative (Kyle Smith)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
My problem is that this will be another election when I have to hold my nose and vote. I did it for McCain and will have to do it if either Romney or Gingrich gets the nomination. Neither one of them is a conservative. They are both Big Government types.

My biggest fear with Gingrich and Romney is that they will both make the welfare state run more efficiently and cheaply, but neither one will roll back the welfare state and the culture of dependency. They see government as the solution, not the problem.

165 posted on 01/29/2012 9:57:59 AM PST by kabar
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To: j.argese

So who are you voting for in the Florida primary, assuming you are?


166 posted on 01/29/2012 10:01:58 AM PST by Jukeman (God help us for we are deep in trouble.)
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To: kabar

There is only 1 person on the political scene who has actually rolled back a signature entitlement of the welfare state - that’s Newt Gingrich! Remember welfare reform? Who championed that? No other actual or considered GOP candidate. So, your statement is not entirely accurate.


167 posted on 01/29/2012 10:02:32 AM PST by nuvista (Obama-care - you think that arrogant Marxist "cares" about you?)
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To: eyedigress
He is not only twice divorced and thrice married, but he engaged in adultry that led to very messy and acrimonious divorces. We had enough of this crap with Clinton and his womanizing. It is a matter of character or does that count any more?

The alleged relationships Jefferson had with his slaves have yet to be proved nor were they made part of the public record.

168 posted on 01/29/2012 10:03:29 AM PST by kabar
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To: F15Eagle

Amen.

It aint over yet...and if Santorum does badly (and it looks like he will) then when he gets out and throws his support behind Romney, that will have a telling effect. We’ll have to wait a few weeks for larger states that matter to come up and let it show...and I hope Gingrich’s campaign takes that in.

OTOH, if by some miracle Santorum were to really have a great night in Florida and come in second, then the same could be said for Gingrich. But right now Gingrich has the cards in terms of coalesing the conservative vote.


169 posted on 01/29/2012 10:04:57 AM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: kabar
My biggest problem with Newt is amnesty, which he currently supports.

That is not completely true and but then what are you going to do with Mitt as the nominee?

He will say anything but his track record is a litany of social liberalism and cheap labor, hardly the sort to be 100% anti amnesty

I see this race as Mitt or Newt. Newt was not my first pick...in fact 4th...after Palin, Bachmann, Rick and Rick...but compared to Mitt he is exponentially better...at least to me.

Mitt is a Gerald Ford clone...in many ways actually...

Newt is simply better by any measurement.

The media will attack Mitt same as Newt when he gets the nomination..his family's Mexico history for example will be known even to school kids and even if Mitt does win then we get possibly 8 years of a liberal Republican?

I will pass and ride with Newt till it's done. The way all of these folks on our side attacked Newt in favor of liberal pro abort, pro gun control, pro mass govt healthcare, pro higher taxes, pro homosexual agenda Mitt Romney has changed me forever with the GOP and 90% of so called conservatives in the public eye

I don't care about his reprimand...silliest charges ever of which he was later cleared...it was payback orchestrated by the Dems at the request of a bitter political rival (Cooter) and drummed up by the media...I mean really look at the charges...over events that took place before he was speaker

what that event told us is that the left was determined and Gingrich made enemies...I'll give you that

170 posted on 01/29/2012 10:05:08 AM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: eyedigress

Well, I am out of it. Thought I was good on American cultural history.


171 posted on 01/29/2012 10:05:56 AM PST by stanne
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To: TBBT
It appears that Romney is going to win big in Florida. What appeal he has is one of the great wonders of the world.

Romney's appeal is found in his opposition. Newt is unelectable. Pure and simple. Most folks are smart enough to realize that.

172 posted on 01/29/2012 10:06:16 AM PST by pgkdan ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Not believing polls historically in recent years may make us feel better but that is about it

the trend in Florida is ominous ...sadly


173 posted on 01/29/2012 10:08:00 AM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: nuvista
Much of those gains on welfare reform have since been eroded thru subsequent legislation. And Newt to this day still supports the biggest expansion of the entitlement programs since Medicare in 1965, i.e., the prescription drug program.

Gingrich Says He Doesn't Regret Supporting Medicare Drug Plan Which Is Now a $7.2 Trillion Unfunded Liability

174 posted on 01/29/2012 10:09:16 AM PST by kabar
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To: katiedidit1
Rush will swing our way. LET’S ROLL

If Mitt wins Tuesday, the MSM will go absolutely nuts saying it's over and Mitt will win it all.

RUSH will reveal just how "Conservative" he is soon. I have no doubt RUSH will NOT come out for Newt and that RUSH will NOT enthusiastically point out just how Liberal is Mitt.

My only joy will be the fact that nothing anyone on Earth will every say will get me to vote for Mitt. I loathe that man beyond words.

175 posted on 01/29/2012 10:09:51 AM PST by sand88 (Hey Rove et al, I will, with great pleasure, NOT cast a vote for the Statist Mitt.)
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To: kabar

“Neither one of them (Romney and Gingrich) is a conservative. They are both Big Government types.”

You should vote for Romney, you seem to like his style of trashing good conservatives, in this case, a conservative that had done more for conservatives than any other person except Reagan.

He also ranked higher than Santorum in conservative ratings on a Lifetime Basis.


176 posted on 01/29/2012 10:10:08 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: dforest

People glued on to Mitt who might have given Huntsman, the real electable fiscal conservative, a longer look if the other half of the electorate didn’t seem hellbent on pushing neurotics and halfwits.

Of course anyone that allows their hurt feelings get in the way of the fate of the nation I can see how non-pandering straight talk might be too much to take. The problem is not with the candidates but with the a Tea Party era in which the priorities of Republican voters can be hard to assess and has directly led to the total farce of an election unfolding before our eyes in Florida.


177 posted on 01/29/2012 10:14:22 AM PST by erlayman
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To: TBBT

Cain needed to endorse Newt 2 weeks ago. Cain is a joke now and I agree the people who were going to vote for him moved on to Santorum and Newt anyway.

Bachmann on the other hand...where is her endorsement? Or is she waiting for a clear winner to come out of Florida? She too needed to drop an endorsement.


178 posted on 01/29/2012 10:17:06 AM PST by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big. Vote Newt!)
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To: Principled
   Va is 49 but i dunno if Va is winner take all.

  Virginia is 'winner take all' for a candidate with more than 50% of the vote. If I was in Virginia, I would vote for Ron Paul to prevent Romney from getting the 49 delegates.
179 posted on 01/29/2012 10:19:56 AM PST by Maurice Tift (You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
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To: presently no screen name
Santorum can claim conservatism - I want to see it in action when it will actually cost ‘him’ something! Rhetoric and holier than thou attitude only goes so far - the proof is in the pudding. Either he’s a patriot or not.

Rick is above all a political animal. He core principle is to feed his ego.

Rick will do whatever it takes to help Rick. Our Republic comes a distant second.

Rick could be presented with the fact that he will NEVER get the nomination and by staying in help Mitt. He wouldn't care at all. He's only angling to help Rick.

180 posted on 01/29/2012 10:20:16 AM PST by sand88 (Hey Rove et al, I will, with great pleasure, NOT cast a vote for the Statist Mitt.)
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To: ILS21R; All
Bears repeating for the sake of our resident shrinking violets:

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Rasmussen:

Tuesday, January 17, 2012

South Carolina: Romney 35%, Gingrich 21%, Santorum 16%, Paul 16%

181 posted on 01/29/2012 10:20:31 AM PST by tomkat (Newt '12)
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To: Principled

Romney may win a battle on Tuesday, but not the war.

Rick Santorum will have to make a decision about pulling out and deciding who’s side he’s on.

His continued presence in the campaign splits conservative votes and helps Romney.


182 posted on 01/29/2012 10:21:04 AM PST by Nextrush (PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN IS MY DREAM)
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To: stanne

I don’t know about you but I’m old enough to have watched Yogi Berra play. That said, I could, just as easily, have attributed that quote to Lenny Kravitz. I hope you didn’t miss the point about Washington and Valley Forge.


183 posted on 01/29/2012 10:21:15 AM PST by old school
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To: CaptainMorgantown
Year after year, conservatives have torpedoed themselves in the presidential primaries by putting forward too many alternative candidates and always delaying pulling out and endorsing other conservatives.

Chalk it up to Ego. Or perhaps a messiah complex. In my experience, conservative candidates tend to think they are the *only* one who can save the country. Whereas right now, as Rush once said, a can of orange juice really would be better that the current occupant of the White House (but no, I don’t think Romney rises to that lofty standard). Pseudo-Utopian disasters always come from one of two sources: A) Those who genuinely believe the world is waiting for their particular combination of genius and character to solve all problems, or B) those willing to cynically use the utopianism fantasies of others to enrich and empower themselves. I believe the GOP and Dem elites, as well as most of the communist leadership of the last hundreds years, belongs to the latter group. It’s about swimming pools and sex and living large. Whereas good people like Santorum and other Don Quixote candidates belong to the former. In this situation in which we find ourselves, the self-appointed messiahs are capable of doing almost as much damage to the cause of freedom as the cynics. Their egos will not let them do the math, and you can’t really do the right thing if you don’t do the math. Santorum will only quit if the money vanishes. Bank on it.

184 posted on 01/29/2012 10:21:53 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Reily
He has already endorsed Romney.

Rubio has NOT endorsed Romney.

185 posted on 01/29/2012 10:22:28 AM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: TBBT

Here’s the poll from South Carolina’s primary:

Mitt Romney’s lead in Saturday’s South Carolina primary is eroding, but he’s still up by double digits, according to a new CNN/Time/Opinion Research poll.

The poll showed Romney’s 18-point lead from a week and a half ago declining to 10 percent.

He now leads Newt Gingrich 33 percent to 23 percent. Rick Santorum, who is competing with the former House speaker for the conservative anti-Romney mantle, is third at 16 percent, Rep. Ron Paul (Tex.) is fourth at 13 percent, and Texas Gov. Rick Perry is fifth at 6 percent


186 posted on 01/29/2012 10:26:30 AM PST by RetSignman (I take responsibility for what I post not for what you understand.)
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To: wardaddy
That is not completely true and but then what are you going to do with Mitt as the nominee?

It is very true. Have you read Gingrich's written policy statement on immigration?

Any legislation that legalizes the status of those who broke our laws by entering our country illegally and allows them to stay and work here, the object of their crime, is amnesty. We must not only prevent the Democrats and some moderate Republicans from hijacking the meaning of the word amnesty, but the public must be made aware about the true impact of an amnesty.

The Heritage Foundation concluded that the cost of amnesty would be $2.6 trillion just for increased entitlement program costs. And the number of additional LEGAL immigrants who would join those who were the recipients of amnesty through chain migration, i.e., family reunification, would approach 70 million over a 20-year period, assuming there are only 12 million illegal aliens. We cannot assimilate such numbers. An amnesty would destroy the United States of America with the stroke of a pen.

Newt wants to legalize the status of those with "family and community ties, and ability to support oneself via employment without the assistance of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and other entitlement programs." This is amnesty and it is also unworkable in terms of cutting off various benefits like Medicare, Medicaid, and SS.

He will say anything but his track record is a litany of social liberalism and cheap labor, hardly the sort to be 100% anti amnesty

Here are NumbersUSA's rankings of the candidates--Santorum gets an A-, Romney a C+, Gingrich a D, Paul a D-, and Obama an F-.

I don't care about his reprimand...silliest charges ever of which he was later cleared...it was payback orchestrated by the Dems at the request of a bitter political rival (Cooter) and drummed up by the media...I mean really look at the charges...over events that took place before he was speaker what that event told us is that the left was determined and Gingrich made enemies...I'll give you that

It is more than just making enemies when 85% of your Republican colleagues vote for the reprimand and the financial penalty of $300,000. How does one explain that to the public at large, which is generally not very well informed? Is he going to become our new Marverick?

I will vote for whomever is selected as our nominee. Will you?

187 posted on 01/29/2012 10:28:33 AM PST by kabar
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To: pgkdan

“Newt is unelectable. Pure and simple. Most folks are smart enough to realize that.”

Actually, that would be filtered and ignorant.

That vast majority of conservatives are voting for Gingrich in the Primaries and they disagree with you. You’re in the minority in that opinion.


188 posted on 01/29/2012 10:29:24 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: pgkdan

“Newt is unelectable. Pure and simple. Most folks are smart enough to realize that.”

Actually, that would be filtered and ignorant.

That vast majority of conservatives are voting for Gingrich in the Primaries and they disagree with you. You’re in the minority in that opinion.


189 posted on 01/29/2012 10:29:39 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: TBBT
Maybe many of the Florida Seniors are retirees from New Yawk Sidy and other northeastern socialist utopias and just love their socialism.
190 posted on 01/29/2012 10:31:55 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

“anyone who agrees that there is global warming and that the global warming is caused by man’s activity ...”

Newt Gingrich will never support Cap and Trade and that is the bottom line here. CO 2 is a naturally occurring substance and not a poison as the lefties would have us believe.

The lefties say global warming is manmade therefore let us tax the carbon credits. That is their agenda. Newt shouldn’t have bought into the false premise, however, he isn’t going to have anything to do with Cap and Trade.


191 posted on 01/29/2012 10:32:47 AM PST by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: tomkat
Rasmussen:

Tuesday, January 17, 2012

Why did you pick that one instead of Rassmussen's last poll before the primary? Rassmussen on January 19 (two days before the South Carolina Primary) had Gingrich up two points.

All the polls had Gingrich up in their last polling 1-2 days before the South Carolina Primary - what happened that week is a lot of people were literally changing their minds; the polls were accurate but because they are released after the sample time they were lagging a bit.

In this case you have numerous legitimate polls trending towards Romney, with him having a large lead well above margins of error, and the election is too soon for that to start going the other way (short of Romney being arrested for molesting a nun or something tomorrow).

192 posted on 01/29/2012 10:32:57 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: nuvista

I wasn’t going to read your post because lengthy posts seem to drone-on. However, after reading your post in its entirety, I was left asking, “Who was that Masked Man?”


193 posted on 01/29/2012 10:36:01 AM PST by old school
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To: TBBT

No worries.
There are still miles ahead of this marathon.

The people can see through the whole picture,
and Newt is that Big Bold leader that will create
millions of new jobs! How? He has proven it during
his leadership in Congress working with Reagan.. on to
Clinton.

Romney is weak, Newt is strong, sure he cant be right
all the time, what we are looking for is a strong
leadership with big bold ideas, just like Reagan!


194 posted on 01/29/2012 10:36:22 AM PST by indpndtguy
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To: bert
He also is dull boring totally lacking in charisma and a host of other characteristics that make him unqualified to be President.

That's completely bogus - but even if accurate for the sake of argument those are not qualifications to be President. Otherwise, Obama is the most qualified President in recent history (so long as he has his teleprompter operating, of course).

195 posted on 01/29/2012 10:36:36 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Carry me back
Nothing wrong with moon talk. It promotes all kinds of new technology and it is why we are No. 1.

I have engineering friends who have worked in Florida.

Eventually, private enterprise will do more and more in this field. So many facets to it.

Sputnik was a terrible embarrassment. The space station is no longer USA!! Disgusting.

196 posted on 01/29/2012 10:37:41 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: rbmillerjr
I would rather vote for Santorum than Gingrich. Santorum has a lifetime ACU rating of 88.1 and Gingrich a 90,distinction without a difference over a lifetime.

Beyond their voting records, Gingrich has supported various liberal positions on global warming, health care (the individual mandate and prescription drugs), amnesty, etc.

197 posted on 01/29/2012 10:38:48 AM PST by kabar
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To: Strategerist
Not having read the whole damned thread before posting (so shoot me), it's the first one I saw posted and made the assumption that the FReeper who posted it wasn't making it up.

Tuesday's or Wednesday's or Thursday's .. the point remains the same .. it ain't over til it's over, and any of you who are taking any of the published numbers at face value at this point - esp. in light of the shit fest the marxists have engaged in this past week - are well and truly naive.

/.02

198 posted on 01/29/2012 10:38:56 AM PST by tomkat (Newt '12)
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To: Scanian
Time for Santorum to hang it up and endorse Newt.

Rick's kid is very sick. Say a little prayer.

199 posted on 01/29/2012 10:41:31 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Carry me back
Nobody cares about going to the moon

Speak for yourself. To quote Luke Skywalker, I care. It was one of the most amazing, formative moments of my youth, realizing we had been able to put human footprints on the Moon. The space program demanded solutions to seemingly impossible problems. Miniaturization of transistors led to electronic calculators and the first generation of home computers. Think how different our present world would be if we had not taken that dare. I think Newt was right to appeal to our natural impulse to reach ever higher. Remarkable achievement is the hallmark of the America I grew up in and came to love, and the antidote to the deadly slumber of socialist mediocrity that now threatens us. So I say yes, Newt, take us to the Moon again.

200 posted on 01/29/2012 10:41:42 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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