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Ten Things You Should Do If You’re An “Anybody But Mitt” Republican, And One You Should Not
Hot Air ^ | February 1, 2012 | Mitch Berg

Posted on 02/01/2012 6:55:12 AM PST by C19fan

Let’s say, hypothetically, for just a moment here, that some of the pundits are right – that Romney’s landslide victory in Florida means he really might be inevitable.

I’ve heard more than a few of you Newt and Paul supporters out there; “If Romney wins, I’m staying home on election day”.

While I’m not especially passionate about Romney just yet, I’ll reiterate what an awful idea this is. Don’t go there, people.

I’ve got ten suggestions for much more-productive responses.

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To: C19fan
Oops...

People act like this is something new...people sat home in 2008 when 'they' tried to shove McCain down our throat. It will be MUCH WORSE with Romney. You aren't even going to hear from them on the internet forums like this one or on 'talk' radio, but they are out there.

101 posted on 02/01/2012 8:43:19 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Little Ray
I’m voting against Obama in the General Election, even if it means voting for Romney.

Then you're voting for a Progressive Liberal who supports Abortion, gay-rights, and doesn't care a lick for limited government.

Congratulations, you've just told the GOP they can continue to manipulate and abuse you as a conservative.
102 posted on 02/01/2012 8:43:19 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: who knows what evil?
Anyone else think CPAC will be mega-interesting this year?

We'll see another McCain 2008 CPAC redux with Mittens' flying monkeys in full attendance while Coulter and Christie are waving his banner. CPAC isn't nearly as influential as it used to be, thanks in large part by being co-opted by the likes of Rove and Norquist.

103 posted on 02/01/2012 8:47:27 AM PST by TADSLOS (Gingrich-Palin FTW!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Congratulations, yourself. You’re providing aid and comfort to a treasonous administration that is busy undermining the security and economy of the US.

Romney stinks, but he stinks less that Obama and his friends.


104 posted on 02/01/2012 8:48:05 AM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: cayuga

Great quote. Thanks. He stated it much more eloquently than I.


105 posted on 02/01/2012 8:54:33 AM PST by OB1kNOb (The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and pay the penalty. - Prov 22:3)
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To: Boardwalk
I would rather have the devil I know for 4 years than the devil who is not a conservative for 8 years.

In California, we replaced liberal-left Governor Gray "Gumby" Davis with Arnold Schwarzenegger, who, of course, turned out to be a RINO. By the time Schwarzenegger's term was up, many of us conservatives wished that Gumby had remained in office.

106 posted on 02/01/2012 8:55:16 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: fruser1

There is one good reason to vote for Mit Romney Do we really want Oboma to nominate 2 new Supreme Court Justices?


107 posted on 02/01/2012 8:55:30 AM PST by small business owner
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To: dagogo redux

We can’t even argue that we’d at least get conservative Supreme Court Justices with Romney vs. Obama. With Bush you could at least comfort yourself with that thought as you held your nose and voted for the lesser of 2 evils. No hope of getting rule-of-law judges here with Romney, so that’s the final straw.


108 posted on 02/01/2012 8:57:30 AM PST by elk
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To: SaraJohnson
-- There is one united corrupt and evil mob of elitists working together against the freedom, good nature, well being and interests of the country. --

So, which mob are you going to root for and vote for, Gotti, or Gambino? There is quite a parallel to the way the political parties enforce taking their skim, and the way that organized crime does. Comply, or pay the penalty. Under government, it has a spiffy phrase to make it legitimate, "consent of the governed."

-- I'm more afraid for the Republic than I am angry at the stupid party. --

This country was strong before it was a republic, and it could be strong if the republic falls.

-- Rinos and the DNC will take America down to the depths of their elitist, "smart" ignorance. --

I agree with that speculation. Too few of the people are willing to "take the risks" that come with freedom.

109 posted on 02/01/2012 8:59:16 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Little Ray
Congratulations, yourself. You’re providing aid and comfort to a treasonous administration that is busy undermining the security and economy of the US.

Like Hell I am.

You're being played by the GOP-E who never had any intention of listening to the Tea-Party.

THe problem is, you are doing it intentionally which really makes you an enemy of the Tea-Party and conservatism.

Go somewhere else, we don't support Mitt Romney under any circumstances, no matter the fear-mongering, no matter the false blame game, no matter the cowardly compromising spirit of those who would try and brow-beat us into supporting him.
110 posted on 02/01/2012 9:00:01 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Boardwalk

I have had that thought alot lately.


111 posted on 02/01/2012 9:00:35 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Cicero
Boner will fight Obama?

Boner probably buys Zero his beers in the clubhouse after carrying Zero's clubs for him all afternoon...

112 posted on 02/01/2012 9:02:41 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: RummyChick
Agree ... I won't vote for him, (Romney). I think if we concentrate on the congress and get the right Tea Party People in there, then we can control Obama by controlling both houses ... might even "DEFEAT!!!" him (as in politically destroy) with all the scandals. Our total focus (if Newt can't get it) should be on the local campaigns ... no money should go to the GOP from any conservative.

Voting for Romney is a vote that says "hey, it's ok" ... then when he goes left people will paint all conservatives as the color of Romney (pink). Nope, I'll take my chances with controlling Obama and working my heart out to help support the local conservative candidates. I'm not going to vote for someone I disagree so strongly with ... pro gay, anti-gun, pro Obamacare. Nope.

... and if we lose congress and the presidency? Well, that's what the majority of people in this country want ... socialism. Deal with it or start changing your socialist neighbor's mind ... NOW!

113 posted on 02/01/2012 9:05:18 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (Still a contributing Republican? Why?)
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To: Boardwalk
That is SO true! That is why, even though I dislike the Patriots and their coach (the cheater), I will be rooting for them to beat the Giants who should never have beaten Dallas in Dallas. In case you don't know the story of that horrible game, Dallas let the Giants come back from a 12 point defitict with 6 minutes to go in the fourth quarter!
114 posted on 02/01/2012 9:06:20 AM PST by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: tumblindice

The crawl across broken glass voter is what the liberals of the republican party have counted on for the last 20 yrs.

That dog won’t hunt anymore RINO’s.


115 posted on 02/01/2012 9:09:40 AM PST by sarge83
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To: C19fan
Take a look at Americans Elect. They have two and a half million signatures. At some point a candidate is going to step in front of this parade. Why not make it a conservative? Drawback: it splits the "conservative" vote. But if the Republicans have no real conservative?

You might say it's better for Americans Elect to have a leftist to take votes away from Obama, which is the way most people think this group is going to go. There's no harm in signing up, as I see it. It's going to be a factor in the election whether you do or don't.

116 posted on 02/01/2012 9:10:00 AM PST by firebrand
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To: dps.inspect

“Obamacare is already viciously rooting itself at her hospital”

So why on earth would you vote for the guy that set the stage for it nationally in Massachusetts?

Romney has already indicated he figures ocare will be modify.

It actually needs to be repealed outright. The only way to do that is with a veto proof majority in house and senate.

Also, consider this, after the abomination that is ocare, the RNC STILL can’t put themselves behind a conservative candidate? This is ultimately why we’re having this discussion!


117 posted on 02/01/2012 9:14:14 AM PST by fruser1
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To: srmorton

haha well I’m in Boston so I’m routing for the Pats but I still have a grudge against the Giants so if anyone else but the Pats had won I would be routing for them!


118 posted on 02/01/2012 9:15:36 AM PST by Boardwalk
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To: C19fan

The people that ruined Christine O’Donnell and Dug Huffman want you to remember how important it is that we all stand together a vote Mitt.


119 posted on 02/01/2012 9:16:36 AM PST by jpsb
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To: SaraJohnson
I want to tell myself there is a lessor of two evils like I do every election. But I can’t. It’s a lie. There is one united corrupt and evil mob of elitists working together against the freedom, good nature, well being and interests of the country.

Well said. The only "true believers" or idealists in government right now are the socialists, the rest are there for their own personal ambitions and don't want their boat rocked. Their motto is "to hell with the nation as long as I'm getting mine" and they're not going to jeopardize that by actually taking a stand against Hussein and his cohorts. That might put their own power in jeopardy. They can carry on without my help.
120 posted on 02/01/2012 9:18:35 AM PST by mrsmel
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To: Little Ray

Romney is more destructive to American conservatism, and values than Obama.

Mitt is professionally trained to destroy us while looking like us, sounding like us, mimicking us, using our own words, and now he is succeeding in becoming the leader of the right in America.

Romney won’t be the enemy from the Democrat party, he will be the Republican President of the united States, the leader of the Republican party.

You know what the right, and our writers, and our radio hosts will have to do to convince the Christian right to vote for a Mormon Bishop, they will have to find the creative language and reasoning, to overcome Christian faith, and knowledge of truth, regarding Mormonism.


121 posted on 02/01/2012 9:19:58 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: small business owner
Do we really want Oboma to nominate 2 new Supreme Court Justices?

The RDS is so bad that people are willing to stay home if he's the nominee. As bad as he is, he's not the radical communist obama is. I shudder to think what obama will do with four more years.

122 posted on 02/01/2012 9:24:58 AM PST by jersey117 (Perry 2012)
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To: Boardwalk

The establishment and the Senate GOP endorsement of the Independent, cost the Republican party a conservative Senate seat in Alaska.

The Romney wing of the GOP was willing to pay that price to stop the tea party, and Palin.


123 posted on 02/01/2012 9:25:40 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: small business owner

“Do we really want Oboma to nominate 2 new Supreme Court Justices?”

No I don’t, but that’s not enough to get me to vote for Romney.

The courts have done damage to the country, yes.

But not as much as the other two branches put together.

It takes a long time for stuff to go through the courts.

Not so long as to pass something like obamacare.

So I put the same question to you, are you willing to have RINOs nominate judges?

To me, any hope we have of saving the country is to have the republican party fade to nothingness as it’s replaced w/something more akin to the TEA party.

That is more important in the long run, than the short run hope of some judges.

Besides, I’m hoping that a new, more TEA party oriented senate will deal w/the confirmations.

Voting for Romney is, at best, short term solution to a long term problem. But it will only get worse in the long run if we don’t change this approach to voting.


124 posted on 02/01/2012 9:27:13 AM PST by fruser1
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To: preacher

So what is your point? That Newt is a progressive so lets all back the pandering fraud from Mass?

Newt was not my first, second or third choice but he is 1000 times better then Romney. But it is really not about Romney anyways, is it? It is about whether the Tea Party / Conservative movement was nothing more then a Republican cheerleading fest for a party or a movement driven by ideas and principles.

Understand that having Romney at the top of the ticket spells the end to the Tea Party and any momentum the Conservative movement made. We simply can not elect this liberal “blue blood” and claim we are about principles not power/party. For the last year the Tea Party has been tarnished as a movment of racist ignorant hillbillies, and never once did I see an establishment type stand up and take one for the cause. There is a reason for that ... they think the movement is about nothing more then ignorant hillbillies who are too stupid to make up their own minds and do what they are told.

So I don’t know about the rest of you folks but I am about principles not party. I’ve held my nose before, but not this time. Our country is imploding under the weight of tremendous debt started under a Republican, not Democrat, adminstration. It was a Republican Sec of Treasury who pushed for tarp, abandoning the free market principles I thought “our party” stood for. It was a Republican president who pushed through a significant unfunded extension to Medicare and a Republican Congress that approved it. And it was a Republican Governor who signed into law the blue print for what we now call ObamaCare, the same Governor we now want to nominate to lead “our party”.

So for all you folks thinking its time to suck it up and vote for “our nominee” have at it. Just understand that what we are throwing away is not about a single candidate or cause. It is about the long term viability of a nation in serious moral and financial decline. Understand the significance of the moment and the message a vote for Romney sends. Then do as your conscious dictates.

As for me, I will eat my children before I’d cast a vote for the pandering fraud from Mass. I will not stay home, but I will not vote for that. I will work dilligently to elect our candidates at the local, state and federal level. I may not make a damn bit of difference but I’ll at least know I did my all.


125 posted on 02/01/2012 9:33:59 AM PST by EagleInGA (Mittens & the NJ Fat Man? Really?!?!)
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To: fruser1
Boehner will fight Obama, he will not fight Romney.

Get real. Boner won't fight anybody.

126 posted on 02/01/2012 9:44:31 AM PST by Blogatron (Brought to you by The American Frog Council; 'Frog - The other green meat')
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To: Grunthor
I prefer the 4 more years option, and I dispise Zero.

I will not vote for Romney EVER.

I will opt for 3rd party (if I like him)

Or I simply will not VOTE for a president.

127 posted on 02/01/2012 9:46:23 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Blogatron

“Get real”

So you think Pelosi made it harder for Obama?


128 posted on 02/01/2012 9:46:44 AM PST by fruser1
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To: C19fan
To the GOP-E, Mr. Berg, and the other GOP-E apologists:

UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WILL I VOTE FOR MITT ROMNEY OR ANYONE WHO ENDORSES ROMNEY BEFORE HE SECURES THE NOMINATION.

A Life-Long Republican.

I'll vote for someone who endorses Romney because he's the party's nominee but not someone who endorses Romney while he can still be stopped. I recognize this action as a "holding my nose while voting" type of endorsement.

129 posted on 02/01/2012 9:48:34 AM PST by CommerceComet (Governor Romney, why would any conservative vote for the author of the beta version of ObamaCare?)
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To: C19fan
To the Anybody But Mitt people

As a friend of mine says DON'T BE ON MY SIDE!
I can only assume one of two things are happening
A. you're blowing off steam
B. you're dumber than dirt
I can only hope it is the former

I don't support Romney, I don't think he's the best candidate out there...that would be Newt Gingrich, warts and all. But IF Romney is the candidate of the GOP, I will skip to my polling station with a smile on my lips, a song in my heart, and gladly happily with great vigor pull the lever for him. Because in comparison to Barack Obama, Mitt Romney (even with all the problems I have with him) is an answer to a maidens prayer.

So Grow Up!

130 posted on 02/01/2012 9:50:01 AM PST by Valin (I'm not completely worthless. I can be used as a bad example.)
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To: MEGoody
Which also makes him a LAME DUCK.

I will not vote for Romney and get 8 years of misery.

131 posted on 02/01/2012 9:53:19 AM PST by annieokie
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To: C19fan

I will not, under any circumstances, vote for the GOP-e forced candidate, Mitt Romney.

If need be, I will watch our country burn to the f-ing ground. Perhaps then, we can rebuild.

The GOP-e is counting on all of us to fall in line like good little sheep.

I absolutely hate to find myself having to take this position, but if Romney gets the nomination (God forbid), that is the only position that I can take.

These are not easy times, and they will likely get far worse before anything gets better, if ever.

I am now convinced, more than ever, that the GOP-e must be completely destroyed and voting for Romney will extend its life.

If Obama wins, our country is destroyed. If the GOP-e wins, our country is destroyed. This sure isn’t like trying to choose an ice cream flavor.

Having said all of that, I continue to believe that with our help, Newt will win this.

I will not vote for Romney, period.

GO NEWT GO—it’s about the survival of our country!!


132 posted on 02/01/2012 9:53:48 AM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO--itÂ’s about the survival of our country!!)
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To: Valin

Mitt is no answer to any prayer. Get over yourself!


133 posted on 02/01/2012 9:54:37 AM PST by Boardwalk
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To: SoConPubbie

AMEN, we are at WAR and I would rather go down fighting than surrender with no attempt to stop them.


134 posted on 02/01/2012 9:56:27 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Gator113

It’s hard to be in a political party the thinks it would do better without it’s base. I really believe the RINO’s would be better just courting blue dogs democrats and ditching conservatives.


135 posted on 02/01/2012 9:58:10 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: C19fan

Mitt out advertised Gingrich 65-1 on Florida TV. Romney was killed in the debate by Santorum and yet, he still won.

Romney won because he won the stupid vote, the people who base their opinions on TV ads.
Romney is not going to be able to do that against Obama.


136 posted on 02/01/2012 10:00:27 AM PST by Eva
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To: VinL
Newt/Sarah sounds good, but what do we do with 3rd party Ron Paul? You know he will do this, so it would then be a 4 man race in the general.

Anyone but Romney, ok by me.

137 posted on 02/01/2012 10:00:31 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Valin

“So Grow Up!”

The pragmatists, voting for Romney, are only thinking tactically about the short-term.

The principled, not voting for Romney, are thinking strategically about the long term.

Sort of like it would’ve been better not to do TARP, experience the pain, and come out better off in the end, instead of dragging things on for a decade or more, like in the depression.

Children don’t have the capability of thinking strategically. They would stay up late on a school night, if you let them, not thinking about how tired they will be the next day.

So perhaps it’s the pragmatists here that need to do the growing up!


138 posted on 02/01/2012 10:04:05 AM PST by fruser1
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To: david1313

We feel your pain. I agree, Newt wud be the best candidate. He displays the true core values of the Republican grass roots. If only their were some way we could ensure Newt becomes the nominee. He has a SuperPAC, no? Maybe we could drop a few bucks. I’d give all I could to stop that Massachusetts liberal, silver-spoon.


139 posted on 02/01/2012 10:05:08 AM PST by truebluelib
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To: C19fan
I have to say I'm a little disappointed in Mitch Berg for this one, and I don't think he has a sense of what is really going on in the conservative polity. For example, this patronizing little piece of dreck:

Go Shooting. It’s great stress relief. It focuses the mind. And it shows Romney – and Obama – that you can’t whiz on the Second Amendment. It’s a threefer.

It's a one-fer. It's great stress relief. The fact that it is likely to influence neither man is precisely the problem here. Romney's gun-control antecedents are very well-known and his new-found respect for the Second Amendment reeks of insincerity and posturing. "Go shooting, little people, and pretend that you count for something" is the sort of advice you'd give a ten-year-old.

Mitch doesn't get it. What is significant about conservatives within the Republican party is that we feel, and are, profoundly marginalized, disempowered, taken for granted. Government spending must be cut, the size of government must be trimmed, the direction of centralization of government power, with all its concomitant waste and corruption, must be reversed. Any candidate not committed to that might as well be a Democrat as far as conservatives are concerned. And "committed" includes a track record of success in that arena which Mitt Romney does not possess.

What Berg's blithe reassurance amounts to is "relax, you've lost, now vote for Romney because the other guy is worse." Over and above the fact that the primaries have barely begun, there is in this the entirely false assertion that so long as we "show up", that is, vote for Romney, we can somehow magically influence him to favor our policies. How Berg draws that conclusion is a bit of a mystery to me. "Vote for Mitt because the other guy is worse" argues exactly the opposite.

I do agree that staying home on election day is an action likely to make conservative marginalization worse. We must attain a majority in the Legislative. The Executive under Romney is likely to be a rubber stamp for liberal activism if the experience in Massachusetts is any guide. But Gingrich or even Reagan under a Democratic legislature is not likely to be a great deal of improvement. The Legislative is a battle the country cannot afford to lose. We cannot stay at home on election day.

That doesn't mean an automatic vote for any Presidential candidate, and Romney is perhaps the least likely of any of the remaining ones (except maybe for Ron Paul) to enjoy a free ride in that regard. I would far rather have a conservative - not Republican - Congress and a Democratic President than a Democratic Congress and a Republican - not conservative - President. A Democratic Congress and President together is too horrible to contemplate - the damage done by that combination between 2008 and 2010 is likely to take decades to undo and it may be permanent.

So I'll pass on Mitch Berg's head-patting, thanks. What he's hearing isn't a tantrum, it's a roar of anger, and it isn't going to go away.

140 posted on 02/01/2012 10:14:41 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: central_va

I think they are counting on enough crossovers to make up for the loss and that enough of us will fall in line. I won’t.


141 posted on 02/01/2012 10:15:44 AM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO--itÂ’s about the survival of our country!!)
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To: dps.inspect
Voting for McCain made my stomach turn last time around but Palin made it at least palatable. Maybe if Romney chose Marco Rubio I would find it palatable to vote for Mitt.

Why?

Rubio is well on the way to becoming one of the compromising, back-stabbing RINOs you abhor.

Best not to setup someone whose tea-party credentials aren't all that great for the Presidency.
142 posted on 02/01/2012 10:30:33 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: small business owner; jersey117
There is one good reason to vote for Mit Romney Do we really want Oboma to nominate 2 new Supreme Court Justices?

You mean like this?

“As governor of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney not only failed in this regard, he appointed a number of very liberal, if not radical, ‘living, breathing’-minded judges to the bench,” Barber said.

“Two that come to mind were extreme homosexualists Marianne C. Hinkle and Stephen Abany,” he said. “They both had a long history of pro-gay activism, yet Romney didn’t hesitate to put them on the bench.”


Oh wait, what was your point again?
143 posted on 02/01/2012 10:38:56 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: fruser1

We got what we got... I’m not for Romney, but I’ll go there if its between him and Obamy


144 posted on 02/01/2012 11:25:50 AM PST by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: SoConPubbie

Oh gud, Man... seriously? taking the purist route? You ever yell at your kids, flip someone off on the highway, curse your boss (under your breath)? Don’t bother, I know the answer... puritans hide away from society and create their own fiefdom, go there if you want, life is no better there than here...


145 posted on 02/01/2012 11:33:47 AM PST by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: SoConPubbie

I stand corrected I can’t argue with the facts


146 posted on 02/01/2012 11:45:46 AM PST by small business owner
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To: C19fan
While I’m not especially passionate about Romney just yet, I’ll reiterate what an awful idea this is. Don’t go there, people.

That worked so well in 1996, Mitch. /s

147 posted on 02/01/2012 11:53:42 AM PST by newzjunkey (More votes than Newt & Santorum combined? Where does anti-Romney rebound in Feb?)
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To: Cicero

Well, let’s just say Boehner will resist Obama more than he will liberal Mitt. It’s the difference between bending over backward to support a Republican (in name only) president’s agenda versus competition with a Democrat for appearances sake if nothing else. This is why some people wonder if a McCain presidency would have been worse, because it’s doubtful we would have had the 2010 conservative surge against a McCain presidency. With a center left Congress and the Marxist presidency split on party lines, we don’t shift left as fast.


148 posted on 02/01/2012 11:56:32 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Bad? Bad is easy. Anyone can be it. Being good? Now that's something special!)
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To: C19fan

Wow, who is this jerk of a liberal loser?

1. Romney was the fourth GOP Governor in a row, in a state that usually elects republican governors.

Go shooting to relax? is this romneybot mocking us by bringing up our sporting rifles while defending Romney?

“These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense,” “They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people.”


149 posted on 02/01/2012 11:59:12 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: JSDude1
Even that's marginal advice. Look at happened under W and the GOP congress.

As unlikely as it's ever to be, if down ballot (Senate) candidates won and pulled more votes than Romney, the message might be heard. There's no way to craft that outcome, no way to assure the establishment won't dismiss and bury it. I doubt it'll happen on its own.

The only message they'll be unable to miss is a defeat of Romney followed by a defeat of Obama. The odds grow longer by the day, particularly on the second one.

150 posted on 02/01/2012 12:05:06 PM PST by newzjunkey (More votes than Newt & Santorum combined? Where does anti-Romney rebound in Feb?)
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