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Why Do Concealed Carriers Carry Concealed? ^ | 28 January, 2012 | John Elliott

Posted on 02/01/2012 9:57:31 AM PST by marktwain

Over the last few years, calls for the right to carry firearms concealed have reached a crescendo. In step, politicians from both sides of the aisle have endorsed opinions on the subject and, with very few exceptions, these public servants tend to tailor their stances in line with those of their base of support. For those opposed to concealed carry, this often means pointing to numbers that make the argument gun-related deaths would be vastly diminished if we all were to simply disarm but what these interests tend to avoid are the powerful anecdotal cases where a legally armed citizen defended himself or herself against some robber, rapist or lunatic. The very mention of these occasions generally sends politicians into vapor locks as they vehemently denounce the thought of such self-defense incidents as dangerous (duh?) or bordering on vigilantism.

For example, in 2008 then presidential candidate Barack Obama told the Pittsburgh Tribune, “I’m not in favor of concealed weapons. I think that creates a potential atmosphere where more innocent people could get shot during altercations.” Former Chicago Mayor Richard Daley, in an address at the Federal Gun Legislation Press Conference in Washington DC on the evening of November 13, 1998, stated, “If it was up to me, no one but law enforcement officers would own hand guns, but I understand that it's impractical to pass a national ban.”

What these folks fail to realize—and what I would argue most gun owners in this country understand with crystal-clear clarity—is that their instincts on the issue of gun ownership are ultimately pretty meaningless. Gun ownership is a right delineated under the Second Amendment of the Constitution. Period. But beyond that, when an educated gun owner is carrying a concealed firearm they are likely doing it for very specific reasons related to safety—and not just their own safety but the safety of their fellow citizens.

Gun stats. Don’t believe me? Just ask yourself this, why would anybody go through the three-ring circus of getting a permit, forfeit their fingerprints over to Uncle Sam in the process and then spend the rest of their days becoming an armchair attorney just so they can navigate the labyrinthine system of state-to-state carry laws, if they didn’t have a well-thought out reason for concealed carrying? Just to waste time?

It’s my informed opinion that most folks who carry firearms do not do so because they are looking for altercations or because they’re afraid or exasperated by life, as Obama insinuated when he said people “cling to guns… as a way to explain their frustrations” while on the campaign trail in ‘08. They do so simply because they do not feel safe in 2012 America and no amount of data is going to change that. They know that a violent criminal isn’t going to be convinced to abort his felonious mission because of a bunch of statistics that show the crime rate he’s contributing to is actually going down; instead they take every individual story they hear about these horrible acts of violence seriously.

And no wonder—does it hurt any less to get shot during a downswing in crime? Do you think some eloquently delivered rhetoric about fewer robberies will convince your attacker you don’t have to hand over your wallet to him? Does a plummet in statewide gun crime change the fact a man was murdered down your block? Of course not.

Gun safety. The question then becomes, why do guns equate to ‘safety’ for concealed carriers? Well, it’s simple really: it’s pretty damn hard to force an armed citizen to doing anything against their will and to many minds power is safety. By way of anecdote, here’s a story I heard recently from a cop friend of mine that illustrates this very point:

A police officer pulled over a speeding car rural in Georgia. He walked up to the driver’s side window and asked the motorist, an elderly lady, for her license and registration. While retrieving the requested items the woman told the officer that she was carrying a .38 caliber revolver in her handbag and had two other pistols in the car, one in the glove box and the other in the center console.

“What in the world are you afraid of?” inquired the officer.

“Not a damn thing!” she replied.

This elderly lady had guns out of concern for her safety, and why shouldn’t she be? She’s old, most likely frail and an easy target for criminals. A couple of purse pistols however means she suddenly went from powerless to likely even more powerful than her attacker (who may never expect Mrs. Fields to press a snub-nose into his stomach). No, her decision to carry concealed firearms does not mean she was afraid, it means she is aware of the world.

To me, concealed carrying gun owners are making the safe bet that a violent offender will most likely use a weapon of some sort to victimize them (the very same assumption police officers make everyday). This is the safe move because it makes no logical sense for a criminal, hell bent on taking your money, virtue or life, to not use something to harm you. Concealed carry evens that playing field.

Gun education.

And yes, I’ll be the first in line to admit it: every once in a blue moon there is going to be a tragic gun-related incident involving a CCW holder where a poor innocent person loses their life. This could be because of the negligence of the concealed carrier, negligence of the government for allowing a felon or someone otherwise unfit to slip through the cracks of the permit system, or just an accident.

This is not an ‘if’, this is a ‘when’ but the same goes for just about everything in life. I’ll also remind you that there will be tragic car, ice, blender, bathtub, sport, insect, doctor and plane related incidents too and perhaps most importantly to this argument, gun and weapons tragedies not involving CCW holders (likely many times more than incidents involving carriers).

The point is this: the world is a dangerous place, and suppressing rather than understanding the firearm as a tool only serves to make it more dangerous. People carry for their safety and the safety of law-abiding citizens around them, so the drive should not be disarming citizens but rather making concealed carry safer. The governments afraid of innocent people getting shot when a CCW holder pulls their arm in self-defense? Well then, start educating shooters on how to shoot and carry properly.

TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; constitution; crime; democrats; liberalfascism; obama; youwillnotdisarmus
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To: Jeff Chandler


41 posted on 02/01/2012 10:59:12 AM PST by drbuzzard (different league)
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To: marktwain
I got one only because it was signed by Charles Bronson. ;-)

(no, this is not me)

42 posted on 02/01/2012 11:00:39 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Obama's War on Prosperity is killing me)
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To: marktwain

CONCEALED v OPEN CARRY: Don’t want the bad guy to come up behind me and grab my in-plain-sight gun. Also, would like him to worry / wonder if I had something hidden under my vest or jacket.

43 posted on 02/01/2012 11:07:04 AM PST by jmax
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To: marktwain

Because as a substitute for my penis, my gun’s bullets are so much smaller than my actual penis that I am shamed and embarrassed at the thought of displaying said weapon publicly.

Work THAT one out “View” bitches!

44 posted on 02/01/2012 11:07:21 AM PST by papertyger
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To: marktwain

If I were legal, I think I’d actually prefer open carry. But I’m not, so I don’t. I’m a 6’ 300# 50yo black belt and around 2000 a meth head tried to rob me. I became the felon as I had the audacity to resist. But I carry my hands in the open ;^)

45 posted on 02/01/2012 11:08:37 AM PST by AnTiw1
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To: VeniVidiVici

46 posted on 02/01/2012 11:11:40 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: papertyger


47 posted on 02/01/2012 11:16:29 AM PST by Osage Orange ("The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.")
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To: grobdriver
Why Do Concealed Carriers Carry Concealed? Hmmmm... because a cop is too heavy? :-)
48 posted on 02/01/2012 11:23:05 AM PST by ataDude (Its like 1933, mixed with the Carter 70s, plus the books 1984 and Animal Farm, all at the same time.)
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To: marktwain

I carry for the same reason I earned a black belt and work out; I see no reason to be less capable than necessary. I live way out in the country in CT and when I walk the dogs or hike in the forest, I have a .357 revolver. When I’m in town there is a KelTek 3AT in my front pocket. Guns don’t stop bullets really well but in a fight they allow me to participate meaningfully.

49 posted on 02/01/2012 11:27:25 AM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: Jeff Chandler
I liken it to the responsibility one accrues when driving a semi: tuck drivers must avoid confrontations and potential road rage incidents at all cost because of the great power they control, while the mean-faced, clipped-hair dyke in the Chevy Geo green Subaru Forester can cut off whomever it likes.

Fixed. :^)

50 posted on 02/01/2012 11:34:09 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: marktwain

The article is about “carry”, not “concealed”. Author is oblivious to open carry, and uses “concealed” without thought.

51 posted on 02/01/2012 11:41:38 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals:
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To: marktwain

“Why Do Concealed Carriers Carry Concealed?”

So we can see the look of surprise on the thug’s face when he realizes he’s picked the *wrong* person.

52 posted on 02/01/2012 12:11:58 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: marktwain

I think the primary reason to carry concealed is that just the thought that there is a gun being carried by someone other than a policeman scares the bejeezus out of the people out there who are already scared of guns. At least that’s what was described to me when I took the class to get my first carry permit - in a state that does not allow open carry of a handgun.

53 posted on 02/01/2012 12:14:12 PM PST by Real Cynic No More (OBAMA!!'s name is all caps as sarcasm to indicate a lack of respect, as he does not deserve it)
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To: Real Cynic No More
And there's another very strong reason as well. The violent criminal elements out there are so large in number that we'd have to have a police officer escort every one of us around wherever we go, and reside in our houses, to provide the same level of safety that a personal firearm does. And I for one do not want to suffer that intrusiveness nor have to pay someone else for something I'm capable of doing myself. This idea of the government protecting us against all criminal individuals and providing for all of our needs from cradle to grave is not sustainable economically or in any other way. There's a reason that the Constitution has the language: "... provide for the common defense,....", and not the individual defense.

And who's to protect us against the criminal policeman? Such as those who violated laws to permit illegal gun trafficking, a la Fast and Furious, the criminal illegalities of which reach to the highest levels of our current outlaw administration?

54 posted on 02/01/2012 12:25:55 PM PST by Real Cynic No More (OBAMA!!'s name is all caps as sarcasm to indicate a lack of respect, as he does not deserve it)
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To: ctdonath2
The article is about “carry”, not “concealed”. Author is oblivious to open carry, and uses “concealed” without thought.

Actually, it's about both, and encourages educating people so they aren't so afraid if they happen to see someone with a gun.

55 posted on 02/01/2012 12:28:38 PM PST by Real Cynic No More (OBAMA!!'s name is all caps as sarcasm to indicate a lack of respect, as he does not deserve it)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Something about getting “thrown clear” through the windshield of a car makes me want to wear my seatbelt...

56 posted on 02/01/2012 12:30:13 PM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: marktwain

I’m sure it was merely an oversight that ex-Mayor Daley overlooked the necessity that his mob buddies always go well-heeled.

57 posted on 02/01/2012 12:31:50 PM PST by arrdon (Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.)
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To: marktwain
Concealed carry avoids setting off the "nervous nellies" who are "concerned" about being in the presence of an armed person. It also prevents the bad guys from identifying armed opposition, thus marking them for elimination first. Better to leave them guessing or deciding to not make an uninformed attempt at all.
58 posted on 02/01/2012 1:03:08 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar; All
QUESTION! If I have a CCW permit, and I put a large flap holster on my belt, place the handgun in it, close the flap so the handgun absolutely cannot be seen, can I wear it in public when all they see is the holster?

A good question. I have done it both with and without the gun on different occasions for different purposes.

It would depend on the exact wording of the law in your location, the police in question, the prosecutor, the judge, and maybe the appelate judge as well!

59 posted on 02/01/2012 1:34:54 PM PST by marktwain
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To: Kenny Bunk
Agree, its no ones business if you carry and can be a great surprise to some mugger that thinks your an easy mark..

Conceal is for protection, open carry is for politics,but makes you a first target for a mob also. But if the state you live in says you can carry open, its your choice.

My dad, (retired cop) never open carried after retiring. Always shoulder holster. Worn open for years as a cop, didn't need to prove anything, conceal carry for defense..

60 posted on 02/01/2012 2:11:55 PM PST by goat granny
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