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Is Rick Santorum the logical conservative alternative? (To Mitt Romney)
Hotair ^ | 02/01/2012 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 02/01/2012 3:16:59 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Utmost Certainty

“Let there be no doubt that Santorum is definitely in the tank for Romney.”

I doubt that.

No, in fact I utterly reject it.


121 posted on 02/01/2012 7:07:37 PM PST by PreciousLiberty (Real Hope - Santorum '12!!!)
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To: b9

“Kill Newt’s chances, yes he will”

No need for that, Newt has done an excellent job of it during his career.

I definitely like some things about Newt, but others are certainly in the “hold your nose” category.


122 posted on 02/01/2012 7:09:39 PM PST by PreciousLiberty (Real Hope - Santorum '12!!!)
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To: PreciousLiberty; Bikkuri
You'd better check Santorums record on spending. He's a Big Government kinda guy.


123 posted on 02/01/2012 7:11:52 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

You silly! :-) I’ll be holding the Bible for Rick as he takes his Presidential oath of office!


124 posted on 02/01/2012 7:15:05 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum)
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To: Finny

“Gingrich is battle-scarred.”

Gingrich is battle-scarred to the point he is a quadriplegic on life support. Other than his volatile personality, tendency to make wild claims, and unlikability, that is his only drawback.

It would be a very ugly sight watching him go against 0bama...I hope I don’t have to endure it. McCain at least ran a close race, with the help of Sarah Palin. I seriously doubt Gingrich will find as inspirational of a running mate.


125 posted on 02/01/2012 7:16:22 PM PST by PreciousLiberty (Real Hope - Santorum '12!!!)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Instead of simply using personal insults how about coming up with something Gingrich has said or a stance of his that’s Big Government like Santorum.


126 posted on 02/01/2012 7:28:14 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

You might be amazed to find that I don’t have too much of a problem with any of that, perhaps other than the AIDS aid, although that was an area that GWB strongly supported also. (Bear in mind that the stem cell research involves adult stem cells.)

I’m hopeful that a more conservative Congress, grass roots conservatives and the Tea Party can educate Santorum on the virtues of smaller government and freedom in general. I hope he perceives that times have changed - given our shiny new $15 trillion debt.


127 posted on 02/01/2012 7:33:23 PM PST by PreciousLiberty (Real Hope - Santorum '12!!!)
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To: PreciousLiberty

So you aren’t a fiscal conservative. That kind of spending and government interference is what got us here!


128 posted on 02/01/2012 7:34:42 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: PreciousLiberty; onyx
I hope he perceives that times have changed

You back the dude and don't know what he stands for?! Oh good God!! And you VOTE?! No wonder we're screwed as a nation?

I am so out of here!

129 posted on 02/01/2012 7:36:53 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

“Instead of simply using personal insults how about coming up with something Gingrich has said or a stance of his that’s Big Government like Santorum.”

First of all, I used no insults - just very common perceptions of Gingrich, which are easily backed up by example. Did he not have to admit that he made incorrect statements in the last debate, for instance?

Just to pick something out of the air as far a “Big Government” goes, how about the engaging image of him on a couch with Nancy Pelosi agreeing that we must combat global warming? That was a genius move on his part, to be sure...and speaks volumes about his judgement and commitment to “conservatism”.

I understand many are desperate to find an alternative to 0bamney...but let’s not lose our heads, or principles, in the process.


130 posted on 02/01/2012 7:39:00 PM PST by PreciousLiberty (Real Hope - Santorum '12!!!)
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To: reasonisfaith

His speeches are the worst part. I’ll be listening, and it will be great, and I can see inspiration. Then he’ll say something rediculous, and it throws me out of the mood.

He’s just one of those types. Ideas with no filter. Says good things, says outrageous things, can’t seem to distinguish between them.

I’d love to love him like others do, because he’s not a bad choice, except I don’t think he can actually win, which would make him a bad choice.


131 posted on 02/01/2012 7:42:57 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: DJ MacWoW

“So you aren’t a fiscal conservative. That kind of spending and government interference is what got us here!”

I’m very much a fiscal conservative. You seem to be confused about the role of President, as opposed to Congress. Further, many of those initiatives occurred during better times - I expect Santorum will do his best to promote what’s best for America given our current circumstances, based on his character.


132 posted on 02/01/2012 7:43:06 PM PST by PreciousLiberty (Real Hope - Santorum '12!!!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

“You back the dude and don’t know what he stands for?! Oh good God!! And you VOTE?! No wonder we’re screwed as a nation?”

I saw Santorum’s victory speech after the Iowa caucus, and it was quite inspirational. You should watch it on YouTube if you haven’t already. I’m sure he’s a patriot who passionately cares about the future of our country, and that his core values are very much in line with traditional conservatism.

Can you really say the same about Newt, given his checkered past? Further, does Newt actually have a chance in the general, given the vicious attack on said past that’ll be mounted by the MSM and the Dems? I don’t think so...

“I am so out of here!”

Don’t let the door hit your posterior too hard... ;-)


133 posted on 02/01/2012 7:51:13 PM PST by PreciousLiberty (Real Hope - Santorum '12!!!)
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To: Lauren BaRecall

Enjoy Rick’s socialist tendencies: From his own 06 campaign:
My stars — that Santorum pitch piece is meant to be in SUPPORT of Santorum!
Some of its greatest hits (and the bold is NOT mine): “Rick was successful in his efforts to prevent Congress from making cuts to the food stamp program!

Rick has been one of the Senate’s most active leaders in fighting for funding to battle world AIDS and to help eliminate world poverty, working closely with Bono, the lead singer of U2!

Rick has voted for record levels of funding for Pennsylvania’s public schools!

Rick has sponsored legislation called “Fair Care” which would help laid-off workers to continue to receive their healthcare benefits!

Rick teamed up with Senator Joe Lieberman to write the “Savings for Working Familieis Act” of 2005, which would expand a matching savings account program for low income families which can be used to help their children afford college!

Rick wrote legislation that would increase the national minimum wage!

Rick helped pass an increase in funding for early childhood development programs such as Headstart!


134 posted on 02/01/2012 8:40:03 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright
In the spirit of "fair and balanced" debate, you should read this from Michelle Malkin's endorsement of Rick Santorum yesterday:
Rick Santorum opposed TARP. He didn’t cave when Chicken Littles in Washington invoked a manufactured crisis in 2008. He didn’t follow the pro-bailout GOP crowd — including Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich — and he didn’t have to obfuscate or rationalize his position then or now, like Rick Perry and Herman Cain did. He also opposed the auto bailout, Freddie and Fannie bailout, and porkulus bills.

Santorum opposed individual health care mandates — clearly and forcefully — as far back as his 1994 U.S. Senate run. He has launched the most cogent, forceful fusillade against both Romney and Gingrich for their muddied, pro-individual health care mandate waters.

He voted against cap and trade in 2003, voted yes to drilling in ANWR, and unlike Romney and Gingrich, Santorum has never dabbled with eco-radicals like John Holdren, Al Gore and Nancy Pelosi. He hasn’t written any “Contracts with the Earth.”

Santorum is strong on border security, national security, and defense. Mitt the Flip-Flopper and Open Borders-Pandering Newt have been far less trustworthy on immigration enforcement.

Santorum is an eloquent spokesperson for the culture of life. He has been savaged and ridiculed by leftist elites for upholding traditional family values — not just in word, but in deed.

In my view, those points quite nicely trump yours. ;-)

They also rather richly illustrate the capricious nature of Newt Gingrich.

You can read the rest here.

135 posted on 02/01/2012 8:48:33 PM PST by PreciousLiberty (Real Hope - Santorum '12!!!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
yeah, that came from the liberally slanted election brochure that was fully parsed the other night. Fifty Things you Didn't Know....

That's old news. Shame on you for doing a double jeopardy. Next time, try to keep it fresh. :-D

136 posted on 02/01/2012 9:55:02 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum)
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To: PreciousLiberty
I definitely like some things about Newt,

Do tell.

137 posted on 02/01/2012 10:34:56 PM PST by b9 (NEWT all the way)
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To: Lauren BaRecall

He will lose and give us Romney. Newt has a small chance, Rick has none.


138 posted on 02/02/2012 4:05:07 AM PST by david1313 (Newt all the way)
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To: Finny
Gingrich, on the other hand, is a veteran

He implodes every time he's attacked. He can't help himself, he lacks self control (3 wives is proof os that).

139 posted on 02/02/2012 5:56:01 AM PST by pgkdan (Rick Santorum 2012. Conservative's last, best chance!)
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To: Finny

Have you read Newt’s book ‘A Contract with the Earth’? it could have been written by Al Gore. Newt is not our conservative saviour!


140 posted on 02/02/2012 7:17:39 AM PST by pgkdan (Rick Santorum 2012. Conservative's last, best chance!)
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