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Is Rick Santorum the logical conservative alternative? (To Mitt Romney)
Hotair ^ | 02/01/2012 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 02/01/2012 3:16:59 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Last night, a number of people on Twitter pointed out that Mitt Romney didn’t get a majority of the Florida primary vote and claimed that combining the percentages of all other competitors showed that he could still be stopped. I pointed out earlier that this assumes everyone wouldn’t vote for Romney as a second choice, which polling shows to be false (he was second among second choices in Florida), but let’s put that aside for a moment. To whom should conservatives look as the consolidation candidate? After watching Newt Gingrich lose two debates and suffer a steep reversal of fortunes in Florida, some look to Rick Santorum, such as Andrew Malcolm, who wonders if Gingrich has worn out his welcome:

In an amazingly graceless non-concession concession speech after not phoning the victor out of common competitive courtesy, Gingrich chose to talk not about minor matters such as how he proposes to win the Nov. 6 national general election against $1 billion.

No. Instead, Gingrich described in great detail what all he is already planning to do and sign during his first day in the Oval Office, in between taking the presidential oath and numerous inaugural parties.

Seriously.

After a humiliating defeat, Gingrich spoke of a two-man race, assuming his own GOP nomination and general election victories. Big ideas? Try loony ideas. The guy is living in a parallel universe.

Now, Gingrich takes his campaign to Nevada, the state with the most foreclosures in the nation, where he has three days to explain what he did for that $1.6 million that mortgage giant Freddie Mac paid him.

Jeffrey Anderson at The Weekly Standard looks at the numbers ahead:

In Missouri, where the next Republican primary will take place (next Tuesday), a new poll by PPP shows Rick Santorum leading Mitt Romney by 11 percentage points — 45 to 34 percent — while Ron Paul has 13 percent support. Newt Gingrich isn’t on the ballot in Missouri, so the Show Me State offers a prime opening for Santorum to build on his earlier victory in neighboring Iowa.

Perhaps even more encouraging for Santorum are the candidates’ respective favorability ratings among prospective primary voters in the state. Santorum’s net favorability rating is +42 percent (63 percent favorable to 21 percent unfavorable), compared to +10 percent for Romney (46 percent favorable to 36 percent unfavorable). (Paul’s net favorability rating is minus-29 percent — 28 percent favorable to 57 percent unfavorable.)

Those aren’t the only numbers that suggest that Santorum could stand up better to Romney than Gingrich. PPP polling in key upcoming states show that Santorum challenges Romney more strongly in Ohio as well as Missouri:

Rick Santorum is leading the way for next week’s ‘beauty contest’ primary in Missouri with 45% to 34% for Romney, and 13% for Ron Paul. Newt Gingrich is not on the ballot for that, but he will be in the picture for Missouri’s caucus and leads the way for that with 30% to 28% for Santorum, 24% for Romney, and 11% for Paul.

In Ohio Gingrich is at 26% to 25% for Romney, 22% for Santorum, and 11% for Paul.

What might be most interesting in both states is what happens in a head to head between Romney and either Gingrich or Santorum:

-In Missouri Santorum leads Romney 50-37 and in Ohio Santorum leads 45-38.

-In Missouri Gingrich leads Romney 43-42 and in Ohio Gingrich leads 42-39.

Two takeaways from those numbers: if this ever came down to Romney, Paul, and just one out of Gingrich and Santorum, Romney would be in a lot of trouble. And he’d be in more trouble if the single conservative alternative ended up being Santorum.

It’s not just the numbers, either. The debates in Florida last week showed that Gingrich’s claim to mastery of the format simply don’t hold up. He lost both of those debates, and spent the rest of the week attacking Romney on religious freedom and proposing a lunar base that would cost hundreds of billions of dollars in an era where Republicans are arguing for reduced spending. If Gingrich was actually making the conservative case against Romney, I could see Sarah Palin’s point, but he’s not. He’s making a case for “big ideas” that involve a huge amount of spending, attacking Romney on any basis that happens to be handy, and he’s attacking the media.

The candidate actually making the conservative case on the campaign trail is Rick Santorum. Santorum scored points off of Romney in both Florida debates, especially the last one, because Santorum hasn’t ever backed an individual mandate as a health-care solution and doesn’t have to defend that position. He’s never backed TARP, either. That doesn’t make Santorum a perfect conservative candidate, but he seems to be the only one who’s focusing on the actual conservative agenda. Even if the motivation is to back a conservative alternative to Romney to “sharpen his steel” and force him to follow the conservative agenda, it’s Santorum who is most effective at making that the agenda.

Plus, there is one more thing to consider, and that is the quality of leadership. Both of the frontrunners and their allies have engaged in disappointing attacks on free market enterprise in an attempt to exploit each others’ weaknesses, but Santorum has refrained from doing so, even though he has specifically targeted blue-collar voters who might respond to those attacks. Santorum has maintained a high level of integrity in his campaigning, and that’s something to consider when choosing the man who will represent the party in the 2012 elections.

Santorum also has a new ad out today, “Deal,” which targets Gingrich. It’s running in Nevada and Colorado this week:

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1 posted on 02/01/2012 3:17:09 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

At this point, Santorum’s only role is to make sure Romney gets the nomination.

Santorum is the hero of the RINO establishment.


2 posted on 02/01/2012 3:19:21 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately---reason serves faith. See W.L. Craig, and many others.)
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To: reasonisfaith

His honor is yet salvagable, and he knows this.


3 posted on 02/01/2012 3:20:27 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately---reason serves faith. See W.L. Craig, and many others.)
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To: reasonisfaith
Santorum is the hero of the RINO establishment.

Just as he's always been. Amazing to me that people have been putting so much lipstick on this turd, trying to dress him up as something he isn't.
4 posted on 02/01/2012 3:21:06 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: SeekAndFind

Santorum is the logical one to drop out, and consider his options at a future time.


5 posted on 02/01/2012 3:21:34 PM PST by bigbob
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To: SeekAndFind

He’d probably be better than Paul or Greengrich IMHO... But I wish someone with enough resources and excitement would still step up to the plate!!! (and not Christie, either)


6 posted on 02/01/2012 3:21:47 PM PST by SierraWasp (I'm done being disappointed by "He/She is the only one who can win" and being embarrassed later!!!)
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To: reasonisfaith

why do you believe that Santorum is acting as spoiler for Romney? That’s a pretty strong charge, especially since Rick Santorum has a more conservative voting record than Gingrich! The major stumbling block to his campaign is the same as Newt’s; cannot come up with the funds to finance counters to Romneys smear campaigns. I think YOU are going to deserve four more years of Obama.


7 posted on 02/01/2012 3:23:07 PM PST by Segovia
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To: reasonisfaith

why do you believe that Santorum is acting as spoiler for Romney? That’s a pretty strong charge, especially since Rick Santorum has a more conservative voting record than Gingrich! The major stumbling block to his campaign is the same as Newt’s; cannot come up with the funds to finance counters to Romneys smear campaigns. I think YOU are going to deserve four more years of Obama.


8 posted on 02/01/2012 3:23:22 PM PST by Segovia
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To: Segovia

“why do you believe that Santorum is acting as spoiler for Romney?”

That’s what black helicopters will do to one.


9 posted on 02/01/2012 3:25:12 PM PST by Daveinyork
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To: SierraWasp

Santorum’s new ad should be called “Deal, or NO DEAL!!!”


10 posted on 02/01/2012 3:25:19 PM PST by SierraWasp (I'm done being disappointed by "He/She is the only one who can win" and being embarrassed later!!!)
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To: reasonisfaith

Click to Donate to Newt Gingrich

11 posted on 02/01/2012 3:25:32 PM PST by hoosiermama (Stand with God: Newt, and Sarah will be right next to you.)
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To: reasonisfaith

Did you read the article Walter Winchell?


12 posted on 02/01/2012 3:25:43 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: SeekAndFind

Santorum is not only the clear alternative to Romney, he is the only alternative to Romney. Gingrich has a virtually impossible shot at clinching the nomination (see below link) besides the sobering fact that in a diverse state like FL (a key battleground state that Obama carried in 2008), he lost among all major demographics and suffered a massive 20-point deficit among female workers. And Santorum is telegenic, has mid-western roots, is Catholic, and could haul in Reagan Democrats. Besides, as favorite son, he will carry PA.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57369370-503544/newt-gingrichs-tough-road-ahead/?tag=cbsnewsSectionContent.4


13 posted on 02/01/2012 3:25:54 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well he’s got my vote and no he’s not perfect but is my third and final choice.


14 posted on 02/01/2012 3:26:25 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Utmost Certainty

Santorum rated 89 by ACU, 11 BY Unions. Put some lipstick on that yoyo.


15 posted on 02/01/2012 3:29:18 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Utmost Certainty

Why must you be so vulgar in your vehemet adamacy??? You sound like he’s personally jilted you in some personal or business relationship. What’s up with that???


16 posted on 02/01/2012 3:31:13 PM PST by SierraWasp (I'm done being disappointed by "He/She is the only one who can win" and being embarrassed later!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is a sick game, and conservatives are being played by the establishment, Fox News, Limbaugh, Drudge and possibly Santorum himself.


17 posted on 02/01/2012 3:31:22 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately---reason serves faith. See W.L. Craig, and many others.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Santorum looks better than he would if he were on the receiving end of some of the incoming which was directed at Newt. When one isn’t attacked, he can appear to be above the fray.

Santorum is definitely better than Romney, but the reality is not quite what the more recent perception of him has been.


18 posted on 02/01/2012 3:32:48 PM PST by CASchack
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To: SeekAndFind

Geeze - Santorum couldn’t even bother himself to go back to FL during the voting. Instead he knew that he had NO chance, and so he had drifted off somewhere else to begin fresh. Newt at least hung in and faced the music, gave a positive speech afterward.

Why is Santorum, who seems to be a nice enough man, (if you can overlook much about his record) running around campaigning when even he admits he hasn’t any chance UNLESS Newt drops out? And, ah, he knows Newt WON’T drop out.

Why?


19 posted on 02/01/2012 3:33:27 PM PST by Ladysforest
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To: reasonisfaith

It looks to me like your “reason is faith” has turned into nothing but “self-righteous certitude,” dude!!! Do you have Rush envy, or something???


20 posted on 02/01/2012 3:37:06 PM PST by SierraWasp (I'm done being disappointed by "He/She is the only one who can win" and being embarrassed later!!!)
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To: Utmost Certainty

Yes, have to agree with others. Your response shows no consideration of others or their beliefs in Conservative government.

It’s okay to be for a candidate, but you really should not be so negative toward other opinions. This is a Conservative site and Santorum is one - Romney is questionable. That is your choice - please don’t make fun of others choices.


21 posted on 02/01/2012 3:37:35 PM PST by Deagle
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To: CASchack

Santorum is not above the fray at all - like you said.

You could say he is
A: Part of the fray: He is attacking Newt with ads.
B: Below the fray: no one takes him seriously enough to attack him.
C: off to the side of the fray, because no one is shooting at him.

But above it? Laughable.
If he ever becomes the target of the fray, he will be at like zero per cent in no time. He has BIG LIBERAL STINKIES in his past.


22 posted on 02/01/2012 3:38:07 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: SierraWasp

Because vulgarity is sometimes useful for conveying ideas and sentiments concisely.


23 posted on 02/01/2012 3:38:44 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: reasonisfaith

Nonsense.


24 posted on 02/01/2012 3:39:03 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: Segovia

Actually, that is not true. Newt’s lifetime ACU rating is 90. Santorum’s is 88.1.


25 posted on 02/01/2012 3:39:26 PM PST by georgiagirl_pam (Step One: SECURE YOUR DOOR! (it will give you time to get your gun!) mysafedoor.com)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I agree. If he is targeted, Santorum will drop like a rock.


26 posted on 02/01/2012 3:40:03 PM PST by CASchack
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To: Ladysforest

Hey! He was “off” looking after a 3 year old daughter who came down with pneumonia on top of an already terminal condition!!!


27 posted on 02/01/2012 3:40:25 PM PST by SierraWasp (I'm done being disappointed by "He/She is the only one who can win" and being embarrassed later!!!)
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To: Steelfish
...And Santorum is telegenic, has mid-western roots, is Catholic, and could haul in Reagan Democrats. Besides, as favorite son, he will carry PA.

Perhaps that's what McRombama is thinking...with Rick as his VP pick.

28 posted on 02/01/2012 3:41:36 PM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Segovia

Open your eyes.


29 posted on 02/01/2012 3:41:47 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately---reason serves faith. See W.L. Craig, and many others.)
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To: Segovia

Your last sentence cleared you of any risk of having credibility.


30 posted on 02/01/2012 3:43:15 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately---reason serves faith. See W.L. Craig, and many others.)
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To: Utmost Certainty
Just as he's always been. Amazing to me that people have been putting so much lipstick on this turd, trying to dress him up as something he isn't

Why call names? I get that you don't like him, I can't stand Romney, but what's with the personal attacks and name-calling?

31 posted on 02/01/2012 3:43:44 PM PST by Kenny (<p><i)
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To: Utmost Certainty
Just as he's always been. Amazing to me that people have been putting so much lipstick on this turd, trying to dress him up as something he isn't

Why call names? I get that you don't like him, I can't stand Romney, but what's with the personal attacks and name-calling?

32 posted on 02/01/2012 3:44:04 PM PST by Kenny (<p><i)
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To: Utmost Certainty

It simply comes across as vile and you will not attract anyone to your point of view with it unless they were as filled with self-righteous certitude like you seem to be, which puts everybody in a bad mood, dude!!!


33 posted on 02/01/2012 3:45:46 PM PST by SierraWasp (I'm done being disappointed by "He/She is the only one who can win" and being embarrassed later!!!)
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To: Deagle; All
Ricky "SOPA" Santorum is no conservative—he's a collectivist big government statist. If you're down with this sort of thing, then by all means have at it. But it isn't for me:
"This whole idea of personal autonomy, well I don’t think most conservatives hold that point of view. Some do. They have this idea that people should be left alone, be able to do whatever they want to do, government should keep our taxes down and keep our regulations low, that we shouldn’t get involved in the bedroom, we shouldn’t get involved in cultural issues. You know, people should do whatever they want. Well, that is not how traditional conservatives view the world and I think most conservatives understand that individuals can’t go it alone." [source]

"What was my vision? I came to the uncomfortable realization that conservatives were not only reluctant to spend government dollars on the poor, they hadn’t even thought much about what might work better. I often describe my conservative colleagues during this time as simply ‘cheap liberals.’ My own economically modest personal background and my faith had taught me to care for those who are less fortunate, but I too had not yet given much thought to the proper role of government in this mission." –Rick Santorum, p. IX It Takes a Family: Conservatism and the Common Good (2005)

"I suspect some will dismiss my ideas as just an extended version of ‘compassionate conservatism.’ Some will reject what I have said as a kind of ‘Big Government Conservatism.’ Some will say that what I’ve tried to argue isn’t conservatism at all. But I believe what I’ve been presenting is the genuine conservatism our Founders envisioned. One that fosters the opportunity for all Americans to live as we are called to live, in selfless families that contribute to the general welfare, the common good." –Rick Santorum, p. 421 It Takes a Family: Conservatism and the Common Good (2005)

"If you're a conservative, there really is only one place to go right now. I would even argue farther than that. If you're a Republican, if you're a Republican in the broadest sense, there is only one place to go right now and that's Mitt Romney." –Rick Santorum, 02/1/2008 [source]
Check out his brochure, 50 Things You Didn't Know About Rick Santorum, where he proudly defends food stamps, increasing minimum wage, stem cell harvesting, bloated school funding, etc.

Also see his disturbing voting record for more.
34 posted on 02/01/2012 3:46:08 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
He has BIG LIBERAL STINKIES in his past.

You mean like supporting an individual mandate by the feds at the point of a gun to purchase a product you do not want? You're right, that stinks to high hell.

35 posted on 02/01/2012 3:47:45 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: SierraWasp

Your making a personal attack. Do you know what that says about your sincerity?


36 posted on 02/01/2012 3:47:53 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately---reason serves faith. See W.L. Craig, and many others.)
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To: Ladysforest

The former Pennsylvania senator is taking a pause from Florida campaigning just days before the Tuesday primary that even he expects to deal him a third consecutive loss.

Santorum says he would rather spend his Saturday sitting at his kitchen table DOING HIS TAXES than campaigning in a state where the race for the Republican presidential nomination has become a two-man fight between Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney.

Santorum heads home to do taxes
Associated Press ^ | January 27th, 2012 | PHILIP ELLIOTT
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2839133/posts?page=51


37 posted on 02/01/2012 3:49:48 PM PST by anglian
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To: SierraWasp
It simply comes across as vile and you will not attract anyone to your point of view with it unless they were as filled with self-righteous certitude like you seem to be, which puts everybody in a bad mood, dude!!!

It's just descriptive language. Don't be so sensitive.
38 posted on 02/01/2012 3:49:54 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: CASchack

yep... but maybe he can go for the left wing moderate vote too by having his daddy Arlen campaign for him.. after all he swore on his Conservative credentials that we could trust Arlen Specter to vote the right way in the senate.. and that promise got us Obamacare.. let’s all remember that everytime lil Ricky brings up the healthcare mandate and nobody slams him right back into his place


39 posted on 02/01/2012 3:50:35 PM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: reasonisfaith

No I’m not! I’m just trying to embarrass you into using some of that “reason” you’re braggin about having and to improve your communication skills so you’ll be more happy and successful!!!


40 posted on 02/01/2012 3:52:00 PM PST by SierraWasp (I'm done being disappointed by "He/She is the only one who can win" and being embarrassed later!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Yes he is. Santorum is the ONLY viable option that conservatives have. Newt went into Fl the heavy favorite and he lost it big time. Why? Because he went ballistic when confronted with Mitt's negative ads. He couldn't control himself and made a fool of himself. His last two debate performances were pathetic and that stunt he tried to pull on Wolf Blitzer blew up in his face because he was being asked about charges he actually made. He went to the well one too many times. My question is if he can't handle Mitt...and he CLEARLY CAN'T!!! How in the hell is he going to handle obama and the rats and the MSM??? He won't. he'll self destruct right before our eyes, just like he did as Speaker as clinton whipped his butt. Newt as our candidate is a disaster waiting to happen!

Newt may be the choice of the base of the GOP. It would be generous to say that that would be 50% of the GOP which is 35% of the electorate. That's all he can hope to draw in the general. He won't win women. He won't win independents. Do that math...he can't win! He currently has 60% negatives. Good God almighty! And people say Santorum is fronting for Romney.

41 posted on 02/01/2012 3:52:13 PM PST by pgkdan (Rick Santorum 2012. Conservative's last, best chance!)
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To: SierraWasp

No - I am aware that he did that. Completely and perfectly the right and proper thing to do!

However, as soon as she (Bella) was out of the woods, he didn’t travel back to FL for the vote, instead he went to Nevada - Las Vegas, I believe.

He was not with his daughter yesterday.


42 posted on 02/01/2012 3:52:13 PM PST by Ladysforest
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To: SeekAndFind

Santorum is just wasting our time.


43 posted on 02/01/2012 3:52:45 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: jwalsh07; Utmost Certainty

1998 ACU Ratings: Gingrich 100%, Paul 88%, Santorum 84% [last year all 3 were in Congress]


44 posted on 02/01/2012 3:54:22 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Utmost Certainty

I don’t disagree with your statements - I did say that Santorum had a questionable voting record but if that is that case - just who do you vote for then?

I see no Republican in the race that is Conservative as you and I might describe them. Vote?


45 posted on 02/01/2012 3:55:28 PM PST by Deagle
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To: anglian

He was in Las Vegas last night during the FL vote. That is what I was referring to.

Verify it. I watched him give his little speech.


46 posted on 02/01/2012 3:56:03 PM PST by Ladysforest
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To: Utmost Certainty

“Amazing to me that people have been putting so much lipstick on this turd, trying to dress him up as something he isn’t.”

Gingrich supporters are doing the same damn thing. They are falling all over themselves trying to spit shine that turd.

Any way you cut it we are getting stuck with the choice of the lesser of 2 evils.
There is no true Conservative in the GOP race. Romney is a Liberal through and through. Gingrich is a Global Warming, Individual Mandate loving RINO, Santorum is an East Coast Moderate, and Paul is batshit crazy....... but I will take either of them over what presently occupies the White House.


47 posted on 02/01/2012 3:56:22 PM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: Utmost Certainty
"Don't be so sensitive. "

Go to your room and stand facing the corner as a "time out!" You need to review your intemperate behavior before you ultimately reach actual adulthood!!!

48 posted on 02/01/2012 3:57:14 PM PST by SierraWasp (I'm done being disappointed by "He/She is the only one who can win" and being embarrassed later!!!)
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To: DJ MacWoW
1998 ACU Ratings: Gingrich 100%, Paul 88%, Santorum 84% [last year all 3 were in Congress]

Bears repeating. Now we can just wait and watch while the Santorumites tell us that ACU ratings don't mean anything.
49 posted on 02/01/2012 3:59:04 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: DJ MacWoW

While the voting record might be pertinent, You and I know that Gingrich has a speculative background with liberals.

Gingrich has changed and his actions in later years does require answers.

Sitting with Polosi, Global Warming, Carbon fees, Agreeing with Romney and Obama about health insurance, ah, you know the rest...


50 posted on 02/01/2012 4:01:42 PM PST by Deagle
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