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Greta: Is the Florida Primary NOT OVER?????
gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com ^ | Feb 1, 2012 | by Greta Van Susteren

Posted on 02/01/2012 4:04:58 PM PST by Jim Robinson

"See below what I received from FNC Carl Cameron! This is really wild! More possible Florida election problems?"

Tampa, FL — Florida’s primary might not be over just yet.

The Newt Gingrich campaign is gearing up to challenge the results of the florida primary based on the Republican National Committee’s own rules which state that no contest can be winner take all prior to April 1, 2012. (See attached RNC memo.)

The Gingrich campaign plans to challenge Florida’s winner take all status & demand proportional allocation of delegates.

Fox News has learned that Thursday, a Florida Gingrich campaign official will begin the process of trying to have the RNC rules enforced so that the Sunshine State delegates are proportionately allocated.

RNC Chairman Reince Priebus warned Florida Republican Party Chairman Lenny Curry of the violation in a December letter quoting the rule, “…’winner-take-all’ states cannot hold a primary or caucus before April 1, 2012.”

(Excerpt) Read more at gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: arizona; delegates; elections; fl2012; flaprimary; flaprimaryresults; florida; gingrich; newt; primary; republican; rnc; rominee; rules; teapartyrebellion
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To: Qwackertoo

Does Newt get a proportional share of Mitts Secret Service protection now?


251 posted on 02/01/2012 8:07:45 PM PST by Momotaro
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To: altura
I am pretty sure he is just a guest commentator. His hatred for Newt definitely comes through.
252 posted on 02/01/2012 8:11:07 PM PST by Spunky (w)
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To: manc

Well, the D’s already had a woman run for VPOTUS; they needed a black, or half black would do. Whether D or R, I am damned sick of their selecting candidates based on gender/race/ethnicity/religion. Worse, I am tired of people voting by gender/race/ethnicity/religion.


253 posted on 02/01/2012 8:17:25 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: true believer forever

Someone told me that painting is not historically accurate. A historically accurate one is now temporarily hanging in the New-York Historical Society building, if it’s not gone already.


254 posted on 02/01/2012 8:18:00 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Momotaro
"Does Newt get a proportional share of Mitts Secret Service protection now?"

Newt should get them ALL after all who would hurt Romney boy. The media is so in love with him.

255 posted on 02/01/2012 8:19:00 PM PST by Spunky (w)
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To: Jim Robinson

I join in prayer for Newt!


256 posted on 02/01/2012 8:21:09 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Spunky

Just heard that it passed tonight..trust me I feel your pain. I live in Cali, we voted against gay marriage here and the left said the hell with our votes and we end up getting screwed anyway


257 posted on 02/01/2012 8:21:39 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Spunky

the problem is that it is not just marriage, they use that as a stepping stone and MA is a perfect example.

I’d go in to it more but it is late here for me, but I will say this.

In MA and Massmike and others can tell you from there that marriage is used as a stepping stone.

Once marriage is passed then they say it is law teach the kids in public schools, the bar exam in MA had a uy fail it because he refused to answer what marriage was, kids as young as 5 were being taught that it is OK for two men to play mommies and daddies, kids were told that parents were adults who did cross dressing etc.

I think the website is called mass resistance .

Some states like mine got it on the ballot, other states like MA got it legal by not allowing the public to vote, all states which voted , voted marriages is between one man and one woman .

I’ve never been to your state or the west coast but correct if I am wrong, your state is beautiful but the problem is that Seattle has a very vocal active lunatic fringe, regarding animals right to trees to marriage .

This site will tell you how they use marriage as a stepping stone how the queers have manipulated the public and the law and how you can defeat this by getting the people to vote.

You’ll be surprised at how many oppose this but stay silent due to them feeling intimidated by the homostapo.

There is a freeper on here who is very active , the name is, little jeremiah.

Queers can live with each other, they can have all what they want like us but they want to destroy marriage and the use that as a stepping stone in their agenda

here is link, hope it works out for you.

http://www.massresistance.org/


258 posted on 02/01/2012 8:34:15 PM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: Jim Robinson

"Rebellion to Tyrants is obedience to God"

Reverse side of the First Committee U.S. seal proposal.

The first committee consisted of Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, and John Adams.

Franklin chose an allegorical scene from Exodus, described in his notes as "Moses standing on the Shore, and extending his Hand over the Sea, thereby causing the same to overwhelm Pharaoh who is sitting in an open Chariot, a Crown on his Head and a Sword in his Hand. Rays from a Pillar of Fire in the Clouds reaching to Moses, to express that he acts by Command of the Deity." Motto, "Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God."

It has been recently said that a Rebellion is Brewing.

259 posted on 02/01/2012 8:37:59 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: lonevoice
"How sweet would it be if Romney spent $17million to buy a state that isn’t even winner take all?"

He did all that an more....with his IOWA LOSS.

260 posted on 02/01/2012 8:38:09 PM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: ZX12R

Read elsewhere that Team Romney spent 25 million dollars on the FL campaign.

Will we detect buyers remorse?? hee hee hee


261 posted on 02/01/2012 8:39:34 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Spunky

I honestly have no idea. All good things to find out before Tuesday! Thank you for jump starting my brain! :o)


262 posted on 02/01/2012 8:39:40 PM PST by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: jiggyboy
man what is it with Florida and elections

Electile dysfunction.

263 posted on 02/01/2012 8:39:40 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: EDINVA

you and I .
I am fed up of these people not just on the left but on thew right looking at ones race, religion, color, sex, etc is.

Remember a time when we got the best person for the job and you know what if a guy or gal was black or white or what ever and they were idiots then they would not get the job.?

McCain saying he has no problem getting beaten because he got beat by the first black President, Coulter now in the homo group , Rove with illegals.

Every time hear face to face a person saying that this place where I live is not diverse because everyone is white or everyone speaks English or the usual is where is the diversity.

I say why are you looking at color , race, etc why not look at at a person based on who they are.

Every time it shuts these idiots up.

Obama got voted in because he was not white, 3 to 4 million blacks came out to vote for the first time and not one could give you a decent answer as to why they voted for him except he is a brother.

Get the best person for the job and those on the left who can only see race or religion are the biggest bigots or racists in this country.


264 posted on 02/01/2012 8:42:07 PM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: troy McClure

Send the Kennedy-Kerry-Klone back to Mass!


265 posted on 02/01/2012 8:43:21 PM PST by matthew fuller (My replacement for Drudge-http://www.webcommentary.com/links.php)
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To: Jim Robinson

Well. That sounds interesting...


266 posted on 02/01/2012 8:48:13 PM PST by redhead (, , , comedian)
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To: show

Santorum didn’t win any delegates in IOWA.


267 posted on 02/01/2012 8:55:55 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: manc

Sounds like a rant *I* could give! Remember, the DNC rules require that delegates to its convention meet certain quotas, i.e., X% black, X% women, hispanic, etc. All based on demographic ‘diversity.’

God help a pro-life Democrat of any race/religion/gender/ethnicity. With rare exception, they’d never get seated at that convention. Philosophical ‘diversity’ is not allowed.


268 posted on 02/01/2012 8:59:18 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: for-q-clinton
Awesome, but isn’t South Carolina winner take all?

South Carolina is semi-proportional. That is, the candidate carrying the state gets 11 delegates. The remaining 14 delegates are awarded to the winner of each of the seven congressional districts, two per district. Thus, Newt got 23 delegates: 11 for carrying the state and 12 for carrying six of the seven districts. The seventh district is believed to be Romney's, but they are not sure because the district boundaries are still in doubt.

So, since SC is only semi-proportional, does that place them in violation of the rule, as well as Florida?

269 posted on 02/01/2012 9:13:33 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: samiam1972

Yes, we do look like rubes. But, to me, the interesting part will be that Missouri complied with the rules by scheduling the caucus so if they don’t hold Florida to the rules too, there should be hell to pay. I’m interested to see if Newt wins the primary here if the caucus will undo the results. My anger would be tremendous if that happens. I just don’t put anything past the GOP any more.


270 posted on 02/01/2012 9:37:30 PM PST by CH3CN (A stitch in time is worth two in the bush.)
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To: Jim Robinson

If anybody who actually works for the party can explain these rules, I would sure appreciate it.

At one point I read that the Party passed rules that you couldn’t do winner-take-all primaries early - before some date I forget. The penalty is to lose half your delegates.

But then I read other things that conflict with this. Surely it wasn’t JUST DISCOVERED that FL should have been proportional? Why are these rules so arcane?

Hank


271 posted on 02/01/2012 9:42:14 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away.)
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To: shelterguy
Newt is a fighter

Yep, the same way shyster lawyers are "fighters".

272 posted on 02/01/2012 9:59:19 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: Momotaro

Since last Thusday I’d have no way of knowing if a Fudgepack “siren” was going or not. I unbookmarked him and uninstalled his app on my iPad.

By the way, for anyone looking for a replacement news aggegator, I strongly recommend “BadBlue”

http://badblue.bitnamiapp.com/trendr8.htm

Hank


273 posted on 02/01/2012 10:03:02 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away.)
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To: Irish Eyes

This was breaking news yesterday. That’s why I love this place.

Florida’s Winner Will Lock in 50 Delegates? Not Necessarily
January 31, 2012 1:16:21 AM EST · 1 of 7
ynotjjr
Guess what Nit, no 99 Florida delegates, not even 50, this will be close and the delegates will be split. No winner take all till April. This rule was passed unanimously by ALL States.
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274 posted on 02/01/2012 10:39:53 PM PST by ynotjjr (Gingrich/Rubio 2012 It's called the Constitution. Learn it, live it, love it!)
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To: Electric Graffiti

Yea I’m surprised that they don’t give back Florida’s Delegates just to mess with Newt!


275 posted on 02/01/2012 10:47:19 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: boomop1
Romney just sh** a brick.

AmSoc doubleplusgoods maked subwears brownwise.

276 posted on 02/01/2012 11:29:10 PM PST by seton89 (Starve the Beast)
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To: Jim Robinson

Prayers up for Newt and our country...INDEED!!!!


277 posted on 02/01/2012 11:44:38 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it....)
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To: true believer forever

I believe Washington chose as the ‘watchword(s)’ for that operaton “Victory or Death”. Appropriate ... fight to the political death between Newt & Romney & Newt is going “all in”.


278 posted on 02/02/2012 12:00:41 AM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: Jim Robinson

Hahahahahahahahaha!

Yay Newt!


279 posted on 02/02/2012 12:19:48 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: Jim Robinson

More evidence that Newt is an entrenched politician all of the way thru. I will never understand why the establishment loves him so.


280 posted on 02/02/2012 3:39:00 AM PST by midwyf (Wyoming Native. Environmentalism is a religion too.)
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To: Prokopton

I’m a lawyer, and I never “shyst” anyone. If anything, I undercharge everyone, I never use immoral or unethical tactics, I always go for the win/win when possible, and yet, when my client’s cause requires it, I do fight with everything I’ve got to make justice happen. No apologies.

Newt may be the conservative we hire to get in there and lead the charge against the WH Occupier in Chief, but Newt will do the job we hire him to do. That was the whole point of why the Founders designed the system the way they did. It was designed to work with imperfect people, whose flaws could be overcome, to the benefit of the American people, if they could be held accountable, with rewards for being responsive to the people, and punishments for drifting off into elitism. Newt can do this. We hire him, he fights for us, and we keep an eye on him. That’s how its supposed to work. Trust but verify. It’s the American way.


281 posted on 02/02/2012 4:25:34 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Jim Robinson
RNC Chairman Reince Priebus warned Florida Republican Party Chairman Lenny Curry of the violation in a December letter quoting the rule, “…’winner-take-all’ states cannot hold a primary or caucus before April 1, 2012.”

The answer to following the rules wouldn't be a proportional distribution of delegates, but a voiding of the results unless, prior to the primary, Florida had already had it on the books that it was no longer a 'winner-take-all' state.
282 posted on 02/02/2012 4:32:20 AM PST by aruanan
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To: ConfidentConservative

I think that would mean that Romney is trying to get delegates from the two counties he won? IF true, then FL should be proportional also.


283 posted on 02/02/2012 4:41:54 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: conservativejoy

Let me see if I understand this. Delegates would be proportional to the counties you won? Newt won all but two counties in SC. In FL, I think he won more counties.


284 posted on 02/02/2012 4:46:02 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: Jim Robinson

Awesome!

Newt is a fighter!


285 posted on 02/02/2012 4:59:39 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: xzins

Surprise. So far I haven’t seen a link to this on Drudge.


286 posted on 02/02/2012 6:04:25 AM PST by Bronzy (Send a NEWTron to Obama!)
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To: Bronzy
Yes, just found this on Drudge. Should have looked again.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Report-Newt-Gingrich-to-challenge-Florida-primary/-/1637132/8582802/-/pf4c0kz/-/index.html
287 posted on 02/02/2012 6:07:24 AM PST by Bronzy (Send a NEWTron to Obama!)
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To: troy McClure

Here’s my contribution:
membership@rnchq.org
To Reince Priebus:

I have been a lifelong Republican and am also a Conservative activist.
I have donated funds to the RNC and other GOP groups for years in addition to working to help elect Conservative/GOP candidates to office.

I will no longer give any contributions to the RNC nor support it in any way if Mitt Romney is our nominee.
He is not Conservative and more importantly, he has shown his true colors in Fla. with his negative campaigning.
He is a mean spirited and unlikable man...and he would govern with liberal ideas.
I believe that under his presidency, our country would continue to decline and American’s exceptionalism would be in as much danger as it is under Obama.
It will be a sad state of affairs if our party refuses to stay true to our founding fathers and Constitutional core.
Newt is my preference right now. I hope he wins tonight in Fla. despite the predictions.

For the first time in my adult voting life, I will do something that I never thought possible if Romney is our choice in Nov.
I will not vote for POTUS. If like minded Conservatives follow suit, then the GOP will be in for a huge wake up call, won’t it?
For now, I plan to channel my efforts locally and statewide, especially for Scott Walker, in my home state of Wisconsin.


288 posted on 02/02/2012 6:08:06 AM PST by Mountain Mary (Awaken Oh America...)
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To: nascarnation

THAT is the funniest picture I’ve ever seen!!!!! LOL


289 posted on 02/02/2012 6:16:08 AM PST by Mountain Mary (Awaken Oh America...)
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To: hoosiermama
Do you know if the Mormon teachings include Grace?

mormonISM uses the word grace, but does not have the same meaning as Grace in the Biblical sense. lds must work for their salvation. IE after all we can do

290 posted on 02/02/2012 6:18:04 AM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen You up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: Jim Robinson

The Fat Lady hasn’t done her aria, yet.................


291 posted on 02/02/2012 6:32:07 AM PST by Red Badger (If you are unemployed long enough, you are no longer unemployed.)
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To: Mountain Mary

Very similar situation here Mary. Now when they call for dad or I they get an earful

When we get mail asking for a donation, I no longer ignor or write we only give to individual and candidates and return. From now on I’m putting two pennies in and returning it. It will automatically trigger more requests for money and each time they’ll get my two cents worth. (I suppose you could look at is from the viewpoint of the Biblical woman giving her two coins too)

Until the GO PEe starts listening to fly over country and not just the NE part of the country that will be my responce...Maybe I should send that message over the net.


292 posted on 02/02/2012 6:49:11 AM PST by hoosiermama (Stand with God: Newt, and Sarah will be right next to you.)
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To: troy McClure

Bump for an inspirational idea.

Thank you troy.
May God guide our course.
Tatt


293 posted on 02/02/2012 7:07:28 AM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: umgud

I would assume so. If FL is forced to go to proportional then I’m sure Mitt would argue that all 99 should be awarded. Which would put the delegate count at something like 59 Romney - 40 Gingrich (most states have a 15% or 20% threshold).

Now yes 40-59 is better than 0-50.
NH was proportional with a 10% threshold.


294 posted on 02/02/2012 7:08:34 AM PST by scrabblehack
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To: umgud

I would assume so. If FL is forced to go to proportional then I’m sure Mitt would argue that all 99 should be awarded. Which would put the delegate count at something like 59 Romney - 40 Gingrich (most states have a 15% or 20% threshold).

Now yes 40-59 is better than 0-50.
NH was proportional with a 10% threshold.


295 posted on 02/02/2012 7:09:03 AM PST by scrabblehack
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To: midwyf
More evidence that Newt is an entrenched politician all of the way thru. I will never understand why the establishment loves him so.

Ummmm...did you mean to say "I will never understand why the establishment loves him MITT so?

296 posted on 02/02/2012 7:19:29 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Romney seems like a creature put on Earth to blend in with the humans and report back what he finds.)
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To: midwyf
More evidence that Newt is an entrenched politician all of the way thru. I will never understand why the establishment loves him so.

Did you put the wrong name in that post?
297 posted on 02/02/2012 7:22:13 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 ! We should take off and Newt washington from orbit.)
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To: Anti-Hillary
you gotta say that the guy has cajones and is not afraid to take on his own party.

Just like Sarah did in Alaska. We know why they are hated by the GOP E.

298 posted on 02/02/2012 7:59:48 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: hoosiermama
Good idea....Need to reopen the prayer thread!

We can't stop praising and thanking HIM

299 posted on 02/02/2012 8:02:37 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: hoosiermama

I felt the need to stand up for my principles and not just do it privately. I have been selling myself short and compromising for the sake of “the Party” and I simply will not do that anymore
So many of us voted for Rino McCain with huge reservations. I didn’t just vote for him. I worked as a volunteer on his campaign. What a disaster and waste of time.

I am so grateful for supportive freepers because I would feel like I was crazy if I didn’t have you guys for validation. Well, even so, it’s felt surreal the last couple of months.

I cannot tell you how intense the reaction to my letter has been..bordering on vicious comments from supposed “friends” claiming that if I don’t support WHOMEVER the nominee is, especially Mittens, I am a traitor.

These GOP elistists are so stupid. They are focused like a laser on the presidency only and have no idea that Mittens is extremely beatable..
Finally, do they not realize that we can get involved in other ways and help Conservatives get elected in local and state races?
These “big whigs” are the ones who don’t do jack squat except to order people around and try to act important.


300 posted on 02/02/2012 8:13:05 AM PST by Mountain Mary (Awaken Oh America...)
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