Skip to comments.‘No Fifth Amendment Theater’ in tomorrow’s Holder hearing(gunwalker) [LIVE THREAD]
Posted on 02/02/2012 6:06:17 AM PST by marktwain
There will be no Fifth Amendment Theater tomorrow of the Phoenix US Attorneys being forced to say their I-don't-wannas in front of the cameras, Mike Vanderboegh of Sipsey Street Irregulars files in an exclusive report today from Washington, DC.
There will be only one panel of one -- Eric Holder. This is viewed by many who have been following the investigation as a serious mistake. Said one, "More simple browbeating of Eric Eric Holder without dramatic new evidence to impeach his story is going to look petty, mean and impotent.
Perhaps. After all, House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform Chairman Darrell Issa has pledged We are still going to bring him forward in response to Chief of the Criminal Division in the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Arizona Patrick Cunninghams decision to invoke his right not to self-incriminate after being subpoenaed to testify. And Issa has further demanded Justice stop blocking testimony from Cunningham underling Michael Morrissey. Advertisement
Compound this with a return shot from Committee Democrats attempting to absolve their administration allies, an outraged response from Sen. Chuck Grassley of the Senate Judiciary Committee, and yesterdays stunning, knives-are-out ultimatum by Issa to charge stonewalling Attorney General Eric Holder with contempt of Congress, and it would appear an opportunity to show the American people an ongoing cover-up happening before their eyes may be lost.
And perhaps not. Again, per Vanderboegh:
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“who is he trying to fool?” ........ Anybody and everybody. Strangely, many of us are not fooled.
Did you ever have any faith in him to start with? I should hope not.
Six trips to the committee, because he refuses to comply with legally issued and legally binding subpoenas. This man has absolutely no business holding his current job.
Contempt citation, followed by impeachment proceedings.
Rep Issa: “I HOPE that you read the subpoenas that come to you with your name on it.”
Can someone explain why Holder is allowed to decide what evidence is seen or not?
And is it me or is Holder full of crap????? Who is buying his schtick??
All I can say, is go get him Issa!!!!! He seems to be the ONLY one really ripping into Holder, whereas everyone else is just throwing softball questions or accusations out there.
Did he just say we have EIGHT people in the DOJ in charge of Congressional requests and media requests?
Only 8? -— or did I mishear?
And why would media requests be lumped in with Congressional requests, as if they were the same priority?
IIRC, Issa has said that if documents under subpoena are not produced, a contempt citation will be forthcoming.
Why is Owen Wilson asking Holder questions?
And why is he sitting in Rep Gowdy’s chair?
Ok, I take back my last statement....Mr. Gowdy seems to be doing a great job of laying into Holder. But I am getting really annoyed that Holder keeps talking AROUND the issue and denying he knew anything.
He DID know...they HAVE the FACTS that he DID know. WTF more do they need to convict this LIAR!!??!
During the recess, Gowdy is going at it with one of Holder’s cronies.
And Issa is looking like Michael Scott from the Office at that table lol.
tremors now ~ ~ ~
Holder: I’d like to see those memos
Gowdy: We got the memos from you
Issa calls recess to show him the memos.
Gowdy hammering Holder. 5 min. break nobody to leave. Issa worried about all the Fast and Furious type of information being fed Holder from those behind him!
hilarious..so funny because i was watching & thinking, who does this guy remind me of!
Gowdy is also attorney..his line of questioning should be interesting
THIS MAY BE IMPORTANT -— Note this part in the testimony when you get a chance to review!
Holder: Those were related to Wide Receiver.
Congressman Gowdy: No
Holder: I’d like to see a memo that says both Gunwalker and Fast & Furious
I have been wondering if Holder & DOJ is not playing games with the words Gunwalker and Fast and Furious.
Issa called for a 5-min recess to get the docs/memos.
Hearing now resuming.
Who’s the faggot from VT? He, like ALL the Dem’s, now avoiding the issues, and again, using the Dem’s talking points, is talking about more Laws and Regulations, as opposed to addressing Holder’s responsibility for what goes on in his Depatment.
Attention Mr. Welch.....the H is a consonant, it is NOT silent. You don’t hear people yelling elp me elp me....no.
Ugh....I hate that.
“Holder is like Houdini. He has been put in a straight jacket of facts over and over, but he just slips out by lying his ass off. Democrat scum.”
Yes, he is; yes he is.
Problem with the hearing procedure — 5 min Dem; 5 min Repub.
No time to pin Holder down and ask follow-up questions.
Just my observation: Why do I have the ability to identify a Dem. Congress person just by seeing them?
They had Holder here!! his cronies were jumping around in the backround..then Issa ended Gowdys time.
We need to get the CSI team of investigators on this STAT.
After all, they can figure it all out and solve the case in an hour, none of this 6 episode crap.
“THIS MAY BE IMPORTANT - Note this part in the testimony when you get a chance to review!
Holder: Those were related to Wide Receiver.
Congressman Gowdy: No
Holder: Id like to see a memo that says both Gunwalker and Fast & Furious”
Definitely tripped up Holder.
“They had Holder here!! his cronies were jumping around in the backround..then Issa ended Gowdys time.”
I despise this 5 min Dem; 5 min Repub. No time to follow through with a line of examination of important points in order to pin Holder down. Holder parses every single word he can to squirm out of the question.
Holder just slipped through the Gunwalker/Fast and Furious question AGAIN. I have to listen to this again.
Reminds me of what is is.
Taking the 5th is exactly like saying “I did it, but you’ll never get to prove it”.
Off with his head!...and his boss’s! (figuratively, of course, in case they have spies!)
Yup! Holder parses every single word he can to squirm out of the question.
I’m glad I’m doing other things and only listening to this atrocity. Watching Holder for any length of time, really makes my skin crawl.....that evil, lying, weasel...squirming his way around the issues.
Ugh....this is really a travesty, if he gets away with this crap. I mean, I knew our system was messed up, but this hits the target (no pun intended).
More parsing on “gun walking.”
Cummings is a moron.
At last. I had to search for this thread. Not on top of the list at Breaking News. Trump though, he’s well up there.
GOP report: Justice officials were on top of Fast and Furious
22-page memo by Issa released today (downloadable doc).
RE: Main Justice: Extensive Involvement in Operation Fast and Furious
Did they find the memo????????? What happened?
lol! Good one! Atty Gen WITHOLDER
Now Holder is whining again. Important giveaway when he starts whining.
What a cocky a-hole.....you asked a question on whether I should resign...you aren’t gonna let me respond to that?? Thank you....
Yes, RESIGN you ass. At the VERY least, he has PROVEN that he is incompetent....not reading memos, not being aware of VERY important things the AG SHOULD be aware of, not having documents when they’ve been subpoena’d (spelling?), etc etc. He is the epitome of incompetent. If you can’t FIRE his ass, make him resign and NOW!!!! Ugh.....
As I see it, Holder has two answers to everything:
I can’t comment because we’re still investigating that
I can’t comment because somebody else is investigating that.
I know, huh! Trump—the prostitute of politics? Yes, he’s all over the place! Unfortunately!
But this Clay guy redefines stupid.
I think the 5 min. question period allowed the Congressmen should be limited to questioning and not include the answers from a filibustering witness.
Jeez - this Rep. Clay is excruciating to listen to. All he is doing is condemning the committee.
Now invoking Iran Contra.
Mr. Clay...more Democrat talking points and blame placed elsewhere, and completely ignoring facts and reality.
THAT is irresponsible, Mr. Clay. Dumbass....once again with the Bush’s blame game.
Up! Clay blames Bush.
Clay is reading his ‘Rat talking points ... I’m impressed he can read.
: o /
Clay had no question, just a DEM Talking point statement that he was obviously given to read!
Don't you mean EYEran-Contra? :)
I love how Issa flips around a two-minute presentation with just a sentence.
“Again, thank you for proving that no one has been held accountable.” LOL! I love it!
Looking at the names of those questioning Holder, I feel like I’m watching Reservoir Dogs...Mr. Black, Mr. Brown, Mr. White, Mr. Pink, etc.