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The Last Republican?
The American Spectator ^ | February 3, 2012 | Geoffrey Norman

Posted on 02/03/2012 5:49:26 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

..Mr. Romney has captured the Republican flag and will carry it into battle this Fall. If he loses, those people who believed devoutly that the times require something more than a standard-issue Republican for whom all things political are negotiable and to whom there is no dispute that cannot be settled by compromise … those people will be saying, "Never again."

If, on the other hand, Mr. Romney wins, what then? Does anyone expect that when he gets to Washington and starts running the government like a business, entitlements will reform themselves, the deficit will shrivel on its own accord, and Leviathan will shrink to a size where it can be domesticated and housebroken? Has Mr. Romney demonstrated, ever, any convictions regarding the proper size and the rightful powers of the government? Does anyone believe he shares the fear millions feel about government power and their angry indignation at its arrogance and overreach? His overriding sentiment about government seems to be that it would be nice if he were in charge of it … so it would be run (all together now) like a business.

In short, does anyone think that Romney will ride into Washington next January determined to tame the town… or die trying?

Mr. Romney's aim will almost surely be to take Washington on its own terms and try to "make it work." Whatever anti-Washington sentiments he might express during the campaign, the odds are they will be discarded and forgotten within weeks of his taking the oath of office in a replay of George H. W. Bush and "read my lips." The people who voted for Romney in the belief that he would take on Washington will be patronizingly told by the political class that "Governing is not the same as campaigning."...

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KEYWORDS: conservatism; gop; gopprimary; romney2012
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1 posted on 02/03/2012 5:49:29 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Wait till the pubbies come home on election day and find the wife they have been beating has packed up and left...

They will all be standing around with their palms pointed skyward and mumble “what did we do wrong”?

Remember bloody Thursday.....that should be the battle cry moving forward..

Remember bloody Thursday.....

2 posted on 02/03/2012 5:53:07 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I really don’t expect to vote Republican again. I want a new party, and I won’t ever get one if I keep encouraging the Bad Old Party. No more money. No more votes. Have a nice day.


3 posted on 02/03/2012 5:56:02 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (When the night falls, it falls on me, and when the day breaks I'm in pieces.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Does anyone expect that when he gets to Washington and starts running the government like a business, entitlements will reform themselves, the deficit will shrivel on its own accord, and Leviathan will shrink to a size where it can be domesticated and housebroken?”

And the oceans will stop rising and the earth will heal itself.


4 posted on 02/03/2012 5:59:39 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“..Mr. Romney has captured the Republican flag and will carry it into battle this Fall. “

Really?

You mean the other 46 states have had their primaries and the convention is over???

I musta slept through it somehow../sx (sarcasm to the extreme)


5 posted on 02/03/2012 6:01:08 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Great article.


6 posted on 02/03/2012 6:03:49 AM PST by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Romney has NOT captured the Republican flag, American Spectator. There are something like 46 states to go yet.


7 posted on 02/03/2012 6:04:49 AM PST by RoadTest (There is one god, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Romney would expand entitlements, he just said so.

Romney would appoint moderate to liberal judges that will side with the left on every major case before them

Romney will make a half hearted attempt at repealing Obamacare, then quickly proclaim... I tried.. but it's impossible to repeal.... but I think we can improve it a bit if we ticker with it some.

Romney will after finding out the true scope of the problem upon taking office will regretfully raise taxes (cough)

The deficit will continue to skyrocket.

8 posted on 02/03/2012 6:07:27 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What Romney is demonstrating is that our little uninformed Republican primary voters either hope or truly believe that Washington can be tamed with a little tinkering around the edges. These are the older children of those primary voters who chose Nixon over the first Romney in 1968. The second Romney seems more determined than the first one, who was prone to self-described “brainwashing.”


9 posted on 02/03/2012 6:08:37 AM PST by Theodore R. (I have a feeling that our little Republican primary voters will again disappoint us.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

5% of the “votes” cast and it’s over?


10 posted on 02/03/2012 6:09:30 AM PST by gitmogrunt
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Has Mr. Romney demonstrated, ever, any convictions regarding the proper size and the rightful powers of the government?

Nope. Expecting those dazzled by a supposedly squeeky clean Republican is foolishness though. Just as Obama disciples won't see past his facade, so Romney's won't see past his.


11 posted on 02/03/2012 6:10:29 AM PST by Not The Other One
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To: ClearCase_guy

OK, I’m game. Now tell me how our new party is going to be any better than the old Republican party? We still have the very same people. There are no new people to be had.


12 posted on 02/03/2012 6:12:30 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I believe this guy has caught the essence of Romney perfectly and if he gets elected he will manage the decay.


13 posted on 02/03/2012 6:14:17 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: gitmogrunt
5% of the “votes” cast and it’s over?

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

14 posted on 02/03/2012 6:15:31 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

I’m on record as saying that electoral politics is hopeless in the USA at this time. We will have a civil war/revolution, and on the far side of the war, things will be very different. Maybe better, maybe worse. Nothing will change until after the war.


15 posted on 02/03/2012 6:17:57 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (When the night falls, it falls on me, and when the day breaks I'm in pieces.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
OK, I’m game. Now tell me how our new party is going to be any better than the old Republican party? We still have the very same people. There are no new people to be had.

Hopefully, it will be void of democrats in republican clothing.
16 posted on 02/03/2012 6:18:18 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 ! We should take off and Newt washington from orbit.)
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To: Fiji Hill
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

I saw that posted on another Florida-results thread and a lot, I mean A LOT of subsequent posters queried the original poster as if he'd made an unintentional malapropism/movie reference.

Let's see if that happens again. I hope not

17 posted on 02/03/2012 6:19:10 AM PST by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
In short, does anyone think that Romney will ride into Washington next January determined to tame the town… or die trying?

I have never even considered the possibility of Romney winning, not for a second.

He is the perfect sparring partner for World Champ Obama. The idea of him winning a national election, against this opponent, is ludicrous.

18 posted on 02/03/2012 6:20:49 AM PST by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: GreenAccord

Forget it, he’s rolling.


19 posted on 02/03/2012 6:23:41 AM PST by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: MestaMachine
“Does anyone expect that when he gets to Washington and starts running the government like a business, entitlements will reform themselves, the deficit will shrivel on its own accord, and Leviathan will shrink to a size where it can be domesticated and housebroken?”
And the oceans will stop rising and the earth will heal itself.

SO TRUE.
If Romney wins, the GOP will have to capture Congress as well to make any significant changes.
Even at that, things would improve slightly. THAT is the best one can get at any time.

20 posted on 02/03/2012 6:23:47 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Theodore R.
What Romney is demonstrating is that our little uninformed Republican primary voters either hope or truly believe that Washington can be tamed with a little tinkering around the edges

Right to the heart of the matter, and you are exactly correct.

This was not clear to me at first.

Homo Republicanus does not believe that "the system", developed between 1913 and 1965, is doomed. The majority of primary voters believe that, somehow, with a good manager and a few tweaks, that the gravy train can roll on and on and on.

We are not READY for a Palin or a Gingrich.

Things had to get very, very bad for the king to send for Churchill. They aren't that bad, here - not yet.

21 posted on 02/03/2012 6:25:59 AM PST by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: gitmogrunt
5% of the “votes” cast and it’s over?

He observed the Florida primary full court press, with the GOP Establishment -- $$$$$$$$$$ -- Romney Media Machine in full scorch earth force and can envision the Romney confetti concession for the Florida convention as an investment opportunity (if not a gagging moment).

22 posted on 02/03/2012 6:26:41 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Theodore R.

As Eugene McCarthy aptly observed, it was little more than a light rinse.


23 posted on 02/03/2012 6:28:09 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Romney would appoint moderate to liberal judges that will side with the left on every major case before them.

Yes, the part of the Reagan legacy that Romney will be sure to duplicate is more Sandra Day O'Connors. He already has done that in MA. I don't think our little Republican primary voters will ever figure it out.

24 posted on 02/03/2012 6:35:55 AM PST by Theodore R. (I have a feeling that our little Republican primary voters will again disappoint us.)
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To: gitmogrunt

With the kinds of Republican primary voters we have, it only takes 5 percent to tell the other 95 percent what to do in the name of party unity.


25 posted on 02/03/2012 6:37:17 AM PST by Theodore R. (I have a feeling that our little Republican primary voters will again disappoint us.)
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To: rightwingextremist1776
Wait till the pubbies come home on election day and find the wife they have been beating has packed up and left... They will all be standing around with their palms pointed skyward and mumble “what did we do wrong”?

I wish. More likely they'll be waving goodbye with a "Don't let the door hit you in the a$$"

26 posted on 02/03/2012 6:39:14 AM PST by old and tired
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To: rightwingextremist1776

They will all be standing around with their palms pointed skyward and mumble “what did we do wrong”?


The Rinos will not be asking what they did wrong. They will sharpen their knives and go hunting for that run away wife to kill her. They will blame the boody wife for forcing them to go left and corrupt with Obama instead of going left and corrupt with Romney. Rino sharia.

Rinos don’t really mind Obama winning a second term. Conservatives are their political and social enemy - the other party. Given the way they have treated conservatives during this election (and in McCain’s losing election) versus the way they approach Obama and their friends across the aisle, it is obvious what is going on.


27 posted on 02/03/2012 6:41:08 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: ZX12R

OK, fine, now how are you going to make sure everyone is 100% pure and how are you ever going to win an election?


28 posted on 02/03/2012 6:41:27 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: RoadTest
"There are something like 46 states to go yet."
No.... according to fubo, there would be 53 states left to go....
29 posted on 02/03/2012 6:45:03 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: cloudmountain
You're probably being realistic. I'd love to have someone ride into DC on Jan 20, 2013 and immediately demolish multiple agencies, get energy exploration going to the point we can thumb our noses at the Saudis, rid the nation of abortion and gay marriage, restore us to full employment, eliminate the entitlement mentality from our country and get rid of Obama care.

I really, really want this but what is realistic? I'd love to replace every member of congress with a true conservative--all agreeing with me, of course, but somehow I don't think that will happen.

I guess we're stuck with getting the best we can and calling it a victory. That means voting out every Democrat we can possibly get rid of.

30 posted on 02/03/2012 6:47:17 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: joe fonebone

LOL


31 posted on 02/03/2012 6:48:17 AM PST by RoadTest (There is one god, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

If we don’t get rid of the Democrats in the GOP first, it ain’t gonna much matter about the rest.


32 posted on 02/03/2012 6:49:23 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Looks like I have to add another name to my Obamedia list: American SpectatorObama.

Beating the “Willard Is Inevitable” drum to get Willard on the ticket so the Kenyan has a RINO to run against. Been the plan all along.


33 posted on 02/03/2012 6:50:02 AM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: RoadTest

It is time for a new party, even if it requires taking over a small third party for its name and existing presence on the state ballots. Constitutional Party, etc. The Republican establishment is way out of touch, both locally and nationally. The Whigs died for being out of touch, and so is the national Republican party.


34 posted on 02/03/2012 6:50:12 AM PST by rstrahan
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To: Theodore R.

The stupidity of the American Electorate, never ceases to amaze me.


35 posted on 02/03/2012 6:50:29 AM PST by gitmogrunt
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To: Jim Noble
We are not READY for a Palin or a Gingrich.

Well, excuse me, so to you, unless someone is all in for either Palin or Gingrich, they're uninformed? For instance, I have a very good friend who is very much pro-Gingrich but also very anti-Palin.

It is possible to prefer others and still be staunchly conservative. I'm probably one of them. I was proudly a Perry person and the longer this process continues, the more convinced I am that I am right BUT this is where we are--we're dealing in reality now.

Palin and Gingrich are not the litmus test of whether someone is conservative enough. Gingrich is not conservative enough for me. If he's the nominee, I'll gladly hold my nose and vote for him but I'm not going to feel good about it. He's been all over the place on issues to the point, I don't trust him but I do KNOW, he is far superior to Obama.

36 posted on 02/03/2012 6:54:33 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Old Sarge

http://spectator.org/archives/2012/01/31/newt-battles-mush-from-the-wim

Not all contributors to The American Spectator or the Weekly Standard or The American Thinker are lost to us yet and we need to support them.

I know there will be a FReeper who says NO the majority of their writers are RINOS and any trip to their sites only helps them and their bottom line, but we need to know who is making the case for us and conservatism and support those writers.


37 posted on 02/03/2012 6:55:27 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
...It is possible to prefer others and still be staunchly conservative. I'm probably one of them. I was proudly a Perry person and the longer this process continues, the more convinced I am that I am right BUT this is where we are--we're dealing in reality now.

BUMP!

38 posted on 02/03/2012 6:57:14 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Theodore R.

This is the issue with which all Republicans should be continually asking Romney, or even all of them. This is the question. Get them on record time and again on what kind of judges they will nominate.


39 posted on 02/03/2012 6:57:28 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Theodore R.

Speaking of party unity, I am pretty sure I heard Rasumussen say on Hannity the other day that the establishment/elites would not support Newt if he were to win. We were also hearing that if Newt won Florida that there would be tinkering, adding someone else into the mix, etc. The message is clear. The people are not in charge of anything in the party. It is still smoke filled rooms but with this pretense of choice. They want money, they want votes. They don’t want opinions from the “peanut gallery”. They want you to buy their books, support their sponsors, make them into celebrities on talk shows, see them as experts. I am done with it. People don’t continue to play a game if they perceive that the game is fixed.


40 posted on 02/03/2012 6:58:53 AM PST by Anima Mundi (NO SPECIAL PRIVILEGE)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

With people like Democrat plant, Crybaby Boehner, really running things, whoever is elected will have little chance of reforming anything, this is especially true if Gingrich is elected as there is bad blood between him and Boehner.


41 posted on 02/03/2012 6:59:10 AM PST by Prokopton
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

“Has Mr. Romney demonstrated, ever, any convictions regarding the proper size and the rightful powers of the government?”

Short answer is no.

The guy has the relationship between government and the people exactly backward. He proved this with his solution to the medical insurance problem in MA. Instead of correctly diagnosing the problem of skyrocketing medical costs as being government intervention in the health care markets that is distorting the pricing mechanisms, he blamed the entire problem on the people - those so called “free-riders.” And so what does he do? He mandates that folks have medical insurance as a consequence of being alive, whether they can afford it or not, or pay a huge fine, which incidentally is cheaper than insurance and doesn’t solve what he calls the “free-rider” problem at all. It simply goes to feed the bureaucracy, which is the problem in the first place.

Romney hasn’t even acknowledged he was wrong, which someone who has seen the free-market conservative light would know beyond a shadow of a doubt that his solution was no solution at all. In fact he is still proud of his achievement, and tries to down play the importance of this policy decision by shrouding it in the 10th Amendment. But that does not cover up this rather naked truth that he is firm believer in “government knows best.”


42 posted on 02/03/2012 6:59:12 AM PST by dajeeps
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Romney will govern just about the same as Hillary would.


43 posted on 02/03/2012 6:59:15 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Theodore R.
Has anyone told you how to vote? Beat these establishment types at their own game--ignore them. Do what you want and if anyone is trying to deny your right to vote how you want, report them.

The "establishment" doesn't bother me, I ignore them.

44 posted on 02/03/2012 6:59:37 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: dajeeps

So? How does this reply answer my question? It doesn’t, it has nothing to do with my question.


45 posted on 02/03/2012 7:02:20 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Fiji Hill

“Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? “

LOL

Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1qcae9rdZc&feature=related


46 posted on 02/03/2012 7:03:29 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: GreenAccord

See post #46


47 posted on 02/03/2012 7:04:44 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Romney will tie the minimuum wage to inflation, so it rises automatically killing the jobs that will help low income workers.


48 posted on 02/03/2012 7:06:45 AM PST by freemarketsfreeminds
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To: Prokopton
...Boehner.....

He has no fire in the belly for the fight. But with President Gingrich speaking from the bully pulpit, the American people will see who is dragging their feet. Will Boehner spring to life then? That will be the tipping point for conservative voters in 2014 -- and perhaps what the GOP Establishment does not want us to witness (or they will be sent packing).

49 posted on 02/03/2012 7:07:56 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The GOP has taken the place of the RAT Party, which has slid all the way left to become the Socialist-Communist Party.

The Conservatives of this fair nation need to build a new party for themselves, using the Tea Party as the base.

50 posted on 02/03/2012 7:09:26 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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