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The Last Republican?
The American Spectator ^ | February 3, 2012 | Geoffrey Norman

Posted on 02/03/2012 5:49:26 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

..Mr. Romney has captured the Republican flag and will carry it into battle this Fall. If he loses, those people who believed devoutly that the times require something more than a standard-issue Republican for whom all things political are negotiable and to whom there is no dispute that cannot be settled by compromise … those people will be saying, "Never again."

If, on the other hand, Mr. Romney wins, what then? Does anyone expect that when he gets to Washington and starts running the government like a business, entitlements will reform themselves, the deficit will shrivel on its own accord, and Leviathan will shrink to a size where it can be domesticated and housebroken? Has Mr. Romney demonstrated, ever, any convictions regarding the proper size and the rightful powers of the government? Does anyone believe he shares the fear millions feel about government power and their angry indignation at its arrogance and overreach? His overriding sentiment about government seems to be that it would be nice if he were in charge of it … so it would be run (all together now) like a business.

In short, does anyone think that Romney will ride into Washington next January determined to tame the town… or die trying?

Mr. Romney's aim will almost surely be to take Washington on its own terms and try to "make it work." Whatever anti-Washington sentiments he might express during the campaign, the odds are they will be discarded and forgotten within weeks of his taking the oath of office in a replay of George H. W. Bush and "read my lips." The people who voted for Romney in the belief that he would take on Washington will be patronizingly told by the political class that "Governing is not the same as campaigning."...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: conservatism; gop; gopprimary; romney2012
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

With people like Democrat plant, Crybaby Boehner, really running things, whoever is elected will have little chance of reforming anything, this is especially true if Gingrich is elected as there is bad blood between him and Boehner.

41 posted on 02/03/2012 6:59:10 AM PST by Prokopton
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

“Has Mr. Romney demonstrated, ever, any convictions regarding the proper size and the rightful powers of the government?”

Short answer is no.

The guy has the relationship between government and the people exactly backward. He proved this with his solution to the medical insurance problem in MA. Instead of correctly diagnosing the problem of skyrocketing medical costs as being government intervention in the health care markets that is distorting the pricing mechanisms, he blamed the entire problem on the people - those so called “free-riders.” And so what does he do? He mandates that folks have medical insurance as a consequence of being alive, whether they can afford it or not, or pay a huge fine, which incidentally is cheaper than insurance and doesn’t solve what he calls the “free-rider” problem at all. It simply goes to feed the bureaucracy, which is the problem in the first place.

Romney hasn’t even acknowledged he was wrong, which someone who has seen the free-market conservative light would know beyond a shadow of a doubt that his solution was no solution at all. In fact he is still proud of his achievement, and tries to down play the importance of this policy decision by shrouding it in the 10th Amendment. But that does not cover up this rather naked truth that he is firm believer in “government knows best.”

42 posted on 02/03/2012 6:59:12 AM PST by dajeeps
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Romney will govern just about the same as Hillary would.

43 posted on 02/03/2012 6:59:15 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Theodore R.
Has anyone told you how to vote? Beat these establishment types at their own game--ignore them. Do what you want and if anyone is trying to deny your right to vote how you want, report them.

The "establishment" doesn't bother me, I ignore them.

44 posted on 02/03/2012 6:59:37 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: dajeeps

So? How does this reply answer my question? It doesn’t, it has nothing to do with my question.

45 posted on 02/03/2012 7:02:20 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Fiji Hill

“Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? “



46 posted on 02/03/2012 7:03:29 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: GreenAccord

See post #46

47 posted on 02/03/2012 7:04:44 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Romney will tie the minimuum wage to inflation, so it rises automatically killing the jobs that will help low income workers.

48 posted on 02/03/2012 7:06:45 AM PST by freemarketsfreeminds
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To: Prokopton

He has no fire in the belly for the fight. But with President Gingrich speaking from the bully pulpit, the American people will see who is dragging their feet. Will Boehner spring to life then? That will be the tipping point for conservative voters in 2014 -- and perhaps what the GOP Establishment does not want us to witness (or they will be sent packing).

49 posted on 02/03/2012 7:07:56 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The GOP has taken the place of the RAT Party, which has slid all the way left to become the Socialist-Communist Party.

The Conservatives of this fair nation need to build a new party for themselves, using the Tea Party as the base.

50 posted on 02/03/2012 7:09:26 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Conservative Grandma.

I have been watching for you. Last week I had said that romney & the gop stole Santorums momentum in Iowa. I had said the day after the Iowa caucus a man came out and said romney did not win, that romney was given 22 and should have only been given 2 for his county. No one would listen so he went to the media. Still none one would correct it, because they wanted romney to have the momentum going into New Hampshire. Now the gop came out and said 8 precinct “lost” there paperwork & it still has not been given to anyone. I said I'm sure if romney needs them to win, they will suddenly turn up.

There WAS cheating and stealing going on in Iowa. I don't know if it was the gop people or romney people, because he has people working at every precinct from the lds church. You said you live in Iowa and I don't know what I am talking about. Here are the two articles:

Election officials were mystified Thursday as to how Iowa caucus results from two North Iowa counties were not accounted for in the certified results.

State Republican party officials announced the certified results of the Jan. 3 caucuses showed former Pennsylvania senator Rick Santorum with a 34-vote edge over former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney. Original results showed Romney as the winner by eight votes.

State party officials said they did not have totals from eight precincts, including Ward 2, precinct 3 in northwest Mason City and Geneva/Reeve in Franklin County.

John Rowe, Cerro Gordo County Republican chairman, said he did not know how the Mason City precinct totals were missing and didn’t want to point any fingers.

“What is missing is Form E which is a signed copy of the vote totals that were phoned in on caucus night,” he said.

“I sent in a foot-tall box full of forms from Cerro Gordo County for certification. There were two Form A’s, Form B, Form C, Form D and Form E from each precinct and there was other required paperwork as well.

“Out of all the forms we were required to send in, Form E is the only one that wasn’t in triplicate,” said Rowe.

“It’s unfortunate. It was probably a human error on one end or the other. I don’t like it being described as a `missing precinct.’ This was a very transparent process.”

Rowe said there are more than 1,700 precincts in the state and only eight were unaccounted for in the final tabulation.

“If my son took a physics test and got 99 percent, we’d be slapping him on the back,” he said.

Karen Zander, Republican chairwoman in Franklin County, said she doesn’t know how one of her precincts was unaccounted for. She said there were 19 voters in the precinct.

Bill Schickel of Mason City, vice chairman of the state Republican party, agreed.

“The precinct totals would not have changed the outcome of the election,” he said.

“This is a volunteer, grassroots-driven process. I feel badly that some precinct results were not certified.

“There is no perfect election. But having eight precincts uncertified out of more than 1,700 is a better certification rate than ever before,” he said.

“We’re not perfect. But this wasn’t anything like other states have had, like the ‘dangling chads’ in Florida.”

– John Skipper, Mason City Globe-Gazette

UPDATED: Mitt Romney got 20 fewer votes in Moulton precinct, Appanoose County GOP chairman says JASON CLAYWORTH 10:57 AM, Jan 6, 2012 Categories: Caucus Insider 
Covering Rick Perry and Newt Gingrich
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NOTE: An earlier version of this blog incorrectly reported which numbers Appanoose County GOP chairman Lyle Brinegar believes are accurate. The numbers he referenced as accurate earlier today are those sworn in the affidavit by Moulton resident Edward True.

Mitt Romney received 20 fewer votes than are reported from a Moulton precinct in numbers posted by the Republican Party of Iowa, the Appanoose County GOP chairman said today.

The final vote between Iowa caucuses winner Mitt Romney was eight ahead of Rick Santorum.

“We stand by the figures that were presented by the Moulton precinct caucus,” said Lyle Brinegar, chairman of the Appanoose County GOP.

Matt Strawn, chairman of the Republican Party of Iowa, continued to express confidence Friday that the order of finish will not change. He said the party would make no further comment until its two-week vote certification process is complete.

Moulton resident Edward True has signed an affidavit saying that he helped count the vote at the Garrett Memorial Library in Moulton and that the precinct had two votes for Romney, not 22, as reported online by the state GOP.

Brinegar says True is correct.

“I’m not disputing what Ed True said,” Brinegar said.

Appanoose County has 12 caucus precincts. All but two had no votes or single-digit votes for Romney, while one had 20 votes and the Moulton site reported 22.

Drake University political science professor Dennis Goldford said the results – even if the certification reveals a different answer – will change little other than bragging rights.

Santorum, who for months remained in the single digits in polls, wildly beat expectations, and that is the real story, Goldford said. The caucuses don’t result in an actual election, so there’s no additional harm done in terms of having to eject a candidate from a position, Goldford noted.

However, there is potential for long-term consequences regarding the credibility of the Iowa caucuses, Goldford warned.

“It reinforces the view from other states that the Iowa caucuses are this unreliable, amateurish event,” Goldford said.

51 posted on 02/03/2012 7:10:50 AM PST by Linda Frances (Only God can change a heart, but we can pray for hearts to be changed.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Actually it does answer the question. He has demonstrated his unapologetic commitment to big government, just not big government with the same spin as Obama. Don’t count on him reducing the scope of DC power, taming crony capitalism or doing anything meaningful with the regulatory agencies.

52 posted on 02/03/2012 7:12:13 AM PST by dajeeps
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To: rightwingextremist1776

The ‘ pubbies’ will just join the leftist because there’ll no need to pretend. They can’t lose their club credentials, the money they ability to steal by changing laws
and having partners in crime in the judiciary system.

What ‘party’ will ever be the right one. Government has set their rules and we’re screwed just like the other dick-tater countries.

53 posted on 02/03/2012 7:15:06 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (NOT VOTING gets 0bamao re-elected. Lets Newter the RINOS, then the Blank.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
we can thumb our noses at the Saudis

I doubt that this would happen ever as the Saudis have been "petroleum partners" with America since 1926. While the rest of the oil-producing countries stuck it to the gas guzzlers of the world, the Saudis kept THEIR prices down.

The partnership has also been shown as the Saudi riyal has stayed fairly fixed over the decades. It was at a low of 3.1 riyals to the dollar and is now only 3.75 riyals to the dollar. That's fairly static compared to the beating the dollar has taken from other countries.

I KNOW how un-p.c. and how unpopular it is to say ANYthing positive about the Saudis, but the truth is that they are as close to friends as we will ever have in the Muslim Near/Middle East.

54 posted on 02/03/2012 7:15:23 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
"Gingrich is not conservative enough for me."
Hell, rush limbaugh is not conservative enough for me ...
55 posted on 02/03/2012 7:15:58 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“..Mr. Romney has captured the Republican flag and will carry it into battle this Fall. If he loses, those people who believed devoutly that the times require something more than a standard-issue Republican for whom all things political are negotiable and to whom there is no dispute that cannot be settled by compromise … those people will be saying, “Never again.””

No they won’t the stupid bast...s will line up again to vote for the next RINO the media and RNC push down their throats.

56 posted on 02/03/2012 7:19:17 AM PST by DaiHuy (One Big Assed Mistake America)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Americans Elect 2012
Who would you choose for president? This election is in your hands.

SEARCHLIGHT, NV - MARCH 27: Kenton Montgomery of Nevada holds a flag as people gather for the Tea Party Express’ “Showdown in Searchlight,” rally March 27, 2010 in Searchlight, Nevada. (Photo by Ethan Miller/Getty Images)

When it comes to picking a Republican nominee for president, there is little consensus among tea partiers in Nevada, the next state to hold a nominating contest.

A poll commissioned by the Las Vegas Review-Journal and 8News Now found Newt Gingrich to be the favorite among strong tea party supporters. He was supported by 37 percent of that demographic, Mitt Romney by 27 percent, Rick Santorum by 20 percent and Ron Paul by 9 percent. But the picture on the ground is fairly fractured, according to the local tea party groups.

“The tea party people are scattered in whom they’re supporting,” said Jeri Taylor-Swade and Laurel Fee, editors of TRUNC, a group that works to build bridges between the tea party and the Republican Party.

“There’s a faction of the group that’s supporting Ron Paul, a faction of the group that’s supporting Sen. Santorum, and then there’s another faction of the group that are supporting Gingrich,” they said.

“Each of the tea party members is looking at somebody who’s conservative,” they added.

Mitt Romney is not on that list. Asked if anyone was getting behind Romney, the two TRUNC editors replied, “no, not that we know of.” In part, they said, because “he’s a moderate,” and, “we don’t need an Obama-lite.”

Another blow against him is how synonymous his candidacy has become with the so-called establishment in Nevada.

Read more:

57 posted on 02/03/2012 7:21:45 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: fieldmarshaldj
What are you going to do, kill them? How are you going to get rid of them and have a party left big enough to win an election. Besides, your definition of a Democrat may be different from others'?

I know what I want but I also know that if I only got those I really want, we'll be able to hold our conventions in my living room.

58 posted on 02/03/2012 7:23:13 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: joe fonebone

Gov. Rick Perry is spot on in wanting the Federal Education Agency crippled and giving parents and local districts the power to educate their children — as well as wanting higher education budgets split apart with teaching separated from research.

The Sixties Radicals have created socialist encampments in our schools and are “educating” generation after generation and we are seeing the fruits of their labor. The country is run by the “studies” that come from their “research” departments and new voters come from their brainwashing.

59 posted on 02/03/2012 7:23:33 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: rstrahan
Let me tell you about my experience with the "pure" Constitution party.

At one time, I was stupid enough to believe they were more pure than Republicans so I began donating to them. THEN I heard their radio ads during the 2000 and 2004 elections. These thieves stole my money and ran ads AGAINST Bush--not Gore or Kerry. Excuse me, I was outraged. They took my money and were trying to brainwash me that Bush was more dangerous than Gore or Kerry. They were participating in trying to elect Gore and Kerry.

THEN I realized that if these purists really are more pure than the flawed Republicans, they could be participating in Republican politics and strengthening it but NO they didn't want to improve anything. These cowards are afraid of being elected to anything and being held accountable like Republicans are willing to do. Existing Republicans are willing to take the risks where the CPS just want to holler.

I have NO respect for the CP, or any other "third party" for that matter, unless it's the Green party.

60 posted on 02/03/2012 7:30:21 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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