Skip to comments.The Last Republican?
Posted on 02/03/2012 5:49:26 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
..Mr. Romney has captured the Republican flag and will carry it into battle this Fall. If he loses, those people who believed devoutly that the times require something more than a standard-issue Republican for whom all things political are negotiable and to whom there is no dispute that cannot be settled by compromise those people will be saying, "Never again."
If, on the other hand, Mr. Romney wins, what then? Does anyone expect that when he gets to Washington and starts running the government like a business, entitlements will reform themselves, the deficit will shrivel on its own accord, and Leviathan will shrink to a size where it can be domesticated and housebroken? Has Mr. Romney demonstrated, ever, any convictions regarding the proper size and the rightful powers of the government? Does anyone believe he shares the fear millions feel about government power and their angry indignation at its arrogance and overreach? His overriding sentiment about government seems to be that it would be nice if he were in charge of it so it would be run (all together now) like a business.
In short, does anyone think that Romney will ride into Washington next January determined to tame the town or die trying?
Mr. Romney's aim will almost surely be to take Washington on its own terms and try to "make it work." Whatever anti-Washington sentiments he might express during the campaign, the odds are they will be discarded and forgotten within weeks of his taking the oath of office in a replay of George H. W. Bush and "read my lips." The people who voted for Romney in the belief that he would take on Washington will be patronizingly told by the political class that "Governing is not the same as campaigning."...
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They will all be standing around with their palms pointed skyward and mumble “what did we do wrong”?
Remember bloody Thursday.....that should be the battle cry moving forward..
Remember bloody Thursday.....
I really don’t expect to vote Republican again. I want a new party, and I won’t ever get one if I keep encouraging the Bad Old Party. No more money. No more votes. Have a nice day.
“Does anyone expect that when he gets to Washington and starts running the government like a business, entitlements will reform themselves, the deficit will shrivel on its own accord, and Leviathan will shrink to a size where it can be domesticated and housebroken?”
And the oceans will stop rising and the earth will heal itself.
“..Mr. Romney has captured the Republican flag and will carry it into battle this Fall. “
You mean the other 46 states have had their primaries and the convention is over???
I musta slept through it somehow../sx (sarcasm to the extreme)
Romney has NOT captured the Republican flag, American Spectator. There are something like 46 states to go yet.
Romney would appoint moderate to liberal judges that will side with the left on every major case before them
Romney will make a half hearted attempt at repealing Obamacare, then quickly proclaim... I tried.. but it's impossible to repeal.... but I think we can improve it a bit if we ticker with it some.
Romney will after finding out the true scope of the problem upon taking office will regretfully raise taxes (cough)
The deficit will continue to skyrocket.
What Romney is demonstrating is that our little uninformed Republican primary voters either hope or truly believe that Washington can be tamed with a little tinkering around the edges. These are the older children of those primary voters who chose Nixon over the first Romney in 1968. The second Romney seems more determined than the first one, who was prone to self-described “brainwashing.”
5% of the “votes” cast and it’s over?
Nope. Expecting those dazzled by a supposedly squeeky clean Republican is foolishness though. Just as Obama disciples won't see past his facade, so Romney's won't see past his.
OK, I’m game. Now tell me how our new party is going to be any better than the old Republican party? We still have the very same people. There are no new people to be had.
I believe this guy has caught the essence of Romney perfectly and if he gets elected he will manage the decay.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
I’m on record as saying that electoral politics is hopeless in the USA at this time. We will have a civil war/revolution, and on the far side of the war, things will be very different. Maybe better, maybe worse. Nothing will change until after the war.
I saw that posted on another Florida-results thread and a lot, I mean A LOT of subsequent posters queried the original poster as if he'd made an unintentional malapropism/movie reference.
Let's see if that happens again. I hope not
I have never even considered the possibility of Romney winning, not for a second.
He is the perfect sparring partner for World Champ Obama. The idea of him winning a national election, against this opponent, is ludicrous.
Forget it, he’s rolling.
If Romney wins, the GOP will have to capture Congress as well to make any significant changes.
Even at that, things would improve slightly. THAT is the best one can get at any time.
Right to the heart of the matter, and you are exactly correct.
This was not clear to me at first.
Homo Republicanus does not believe that "the system", developed between 1913 and 1965, is doomed. The majority of primary voters believe that, somehow, with a good manager and a few tweaks, that the gravy train can roll on and on and on.
We are not READY for a Palin or a Gingrich.
Things had to get very, very bad for the king to send for Churchill. They aren't that bad, here - not yet.
He observed the Florida primary full court press, with the GOP Establishment -- $$$$$$$$$$ -- Romney Media Machine in full scorch earth force and can envision the Romney confetti concession for the Florida convention as an investment opportunity (if not a gagging moment).
As Eugene McCarthy aptly observed, it was little more than a light rinse.
Yes, the part of the Reagan legacy that Romney will be sure to duplicate is more Sandra Day O'Connors. He already has done that in MA. I don't think our little Republican primary voters will ever figure it out.
With the kinds of Republican primary voters we have, it only takes 5 percent to tell the other 95 percent what to do in the name of party unity.
I wish. More likely they'll be waving goodbye with a "Don't let the door hit you in the a$$"
They will all be standing around with their palms pointed skyward and mumble what did we do wrong?
Rinos don’t really mind Obama winning a second term. Conservatives are their political and social enemy - the other party. Given the way they have treated conservatives during this election (and in McCain’s losing election) versus the way they approach Obama and their friends across the aisle, it is obvious what is going on.
OK, fine, now how are you going to make sure everyone is 100% pure and how are you ever going to win an election?
I really, really want this but what is realistic? I'd love to replace every member of congress with a true conservative--all agreeing with me, of course, but somehow I don't think that will happen.
I guess we're stuck with getting the best we can and calling it a victory. That means voting out every Democrat we can possibly get rid of.
If we don’t get rid of the Democrats in the GOP first, it ain’t gonna much matter about the rest.
Looks like I have to add another name to my Obamedia list: American SpectatorObama.
Beating the “Willard Is Inevitable” drum to get Willard on the ticket so the Kenyan has a RINO to run against. Been the plan all along.
It is time for a new party, even if it requires taking over a small third party for its name and existing presence on the state ballots. Constitutional Party, etc. The Republican establishment is way out of touch, both locally and nationally. The Whigs died for being out of touch, and so is the national Republican party.
The stupidity of the American Electorate, never ceases to amaze me.
Well, excuse me, so to you, unless someone is all in for either Palin or Gingrich, they're uninformed? For instance, I have a very good friend who is very much pro-Gingrich but also very anti-Palin.
It is possible to prefer others and still be staunchly conservative. I'm probably one of them. I was proudly a Perry person and the longer this process continues, the more convinced I am that I am right BUT this is where we are--we're dealing in reality now.
Palin and Gingrich are not the litmus test of whether someone is conservative enough. Gingrich is not conservative enough for me. If he's the nominee, I'll gladly hold my nose and vote for him but I'm not going to feel good about it. He's been all over the place on issues to the point, I don't trust him but I do KNOW, he is far superior to Obama.
Not all contributors to The American Spectator or the Weekly Standard or The American Thinker are lost to us yet and we need to support them.
I know there will be a FReeper who says NO the majority of their writers are RINOS and any trip to their sites only helps them and their bottom line, but we need to know who is making the case for us and conservatism and support those writers.
This is the issue with which all Republicans should be continually asking Romney, or even all of them. This is the question. Get them on record time and again on what kind of judges they will nominate.
Speaking of party unity, I am pretty sure I heard Rasumussen say on Hannity the other day that the establishment/elites would not support Newt if he were to win. We were also hearing that if Newt won Florida that there would be tinkering, adding someone else into the mix, etc. The message is clear. The people are not in charge of anything in the party. It is still smoke filled rooms but with this pretense of choice. They want money, they want votes. They don’t want opinions from the “peanut gallery”. They want you to buy their books, support their sponsors, make them into celebrities on talk shows, see them as experts. I am done with it. People don’t continue to play a game if they perceive that the game is fixed.
With people like Democrat plant, Crybaby Boehner, really running things, whoever is elected will have little chance of reforming anything, this is especially true if Gingrich is elected as there is bad blood between him and Boehner.
“Has Mr. Romney demonstrated, ever, any convictions regarding the proper size and the rightful powers of the government?”
Short answer is no.
The guy has the relationship between government and the people exactly backward. He proved this with his solution to the medical insurance problem in MA. Instead of correctly diagnosing the problem of skyrocketing medical costs as being government intervention in the health care markets that is distorting the pricing mechanisms, he blamed the entire problem on the people - those so called “free-riders.” And so what does he do? He mandates that folks have medical insurance as a consequence of being alive, whether they can afford it or not, or pay a huge fine, which incidentally is cheaper than insurance and doesn’t solve what he calls the “free-rider” problem at all. It simply goes to feed the bureaucracy, which is the problem in the first place.
Romney hasn’t even acknowledged he was wrong, which someone who has seen the free-market conservative light would know beyond a shadow of a doubt that his solution was no solution at all. In fact he is still proud of his achievement, and tries to down play the importance of this policy decision by shrouding it in the 10th Amendment. But that does not cover up this rather naked truth that he is firm believer in “government knows best.”
Romney will govern just about the same as Hillary would.
The "establishment" doesn't bother me, I ignore them.
So? How does this reply answer my question? It doesn’t, it has nothing to do with my question.
“Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? “
See post #46
Romney will tie the minimuum wage to inflation, so it rises automatically killing the jobs that will help low income workers.
He has no fire in the belly for the fight. But with President Gingrich speaking from the bully pulpit, the American people will see who is dragging their feet. Will Boehner spring to life then? That will be the tipping point for conservative voters in 2014 -- and perhaps what the GOP Establishment does not want us to witness (or they will be sent packing).
The Conservatives of this fair nation need to build a new party for themselves, using the Tea Party as the base.