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Komen apologizes for 'recent decisions,' pledges to continue funding Planned Parenthood
Dallas Morning News ^ | 2/3/2012 | Tom Benning

Posted on 02/03/2012 8:33:19 AM PST by alancarp

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To: Responsibility2nd; OregonMom

Sorry to post your Freep mail like I did, but if you would like to explain your views on abortion, you should do it in this open forum.


151 posted on 02/03/2012 4:27:05 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: Responsibility2nd; Admin Moderator

Yes, she’s in my inbox spouting the usually abortion-rally sign slogans too.

The pro-aborts are freaking out over this. Good.


152 posted on 02/03/2012 4:27:40 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

OregonMom banned.


153 posted on 02/03/2012 4:34:34 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: SpringtoLiberty

They should call and demand a refund. This was fraud.


154 posted on 02/03/2012 4:34:46 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Responsibility2nd

Thanks for the heads up. In the future just forward the offending FReepmail to the mods.


155 posted on 02/03/2012 4:35:59 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Did you or anyone else get an email from an pro-abort newbie?

From OregonMom | 02/03/2012 3:37:27 PM PST new

Komen was right to reverse course. Having an abortion is a decision that should be made between a woman and her doctor. THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD STAY OUT!

Megan”

I got the same email.


157 posted on 02/03/2012 4:36:51 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: Admin Moderator

Awww.

And she never even got to post even one reply.


158 posted on 02/03/2012 4:40:04 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: alancarp; pieces of time; Warthog-2; Tzar; word_warrior_bob; risen_feenix; EnglishCon; ...
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.


159 posted on 02/03/2012 4:40:11 PM PST by narses
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To: Admin Moderator

I will.

I should know this, but let me ask.

Is it OK to cut/paste FReep mail to the forum? Assuming it’s not profane.

I mean, after all, it in MY inbox. But what is the official FR position?


160 posted on 02/03/2012 4:42:54 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: Captain Peter Blood

What did the baby do to deserve to be killed by abortion?


161 posted on 02/03/2012 4:44:18 PM PST by DNA.2012
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To: Responsibility2nd; OregonMom

Poor Megan isn’t very creative. Once taken off her talking points, her arguments fall apart. But she was entertaining for her very short stay as a FReeper.


162 posted on 02/03/2012 4:45:00 PM PST by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I would think FRetiquette would call for permission from the originator of the FReepmail,. But I know of a few FReepers who were sending out some pretty bad stuff about FR to large lists of FReepers, were banned, and their FReepmails were published on the forum.


163 posted on 02/03/2012 4:47:13 PM PST by gitmo (Hatred of those who think differently is the left's unifying principle.-Ralph Peters NY Post)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yep. Here’s mine:

Re: Komen apologizes for ‘recent decisions,’ pledges to continue funding Planned Parenthood
From OregonMom | 02/03/2012 4:06:59 PM PST read

Komen was right to reverse course. Having an abortion is a decision that should be made between a woman and her doctor. THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD STAY OUT!

Megan
___________________

Megan, let’s just call a spade a spade. This “abortion” kills a baby in a very brutal way. Maybe YOUR baby. Are you really saying this is OK? :^(


164 posted on 02/03/2012 4:48:39 PM PST by Shelayne (NO ROMNEY--NOT NOW--NOT EVER!)
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To: alancarp

This entire fiasco is putting the lie to these foundations.

We were told that we need a cure for breast cancer. And we were told that one of the main reasons we were not finding a cure is that researchers do not have enough money. We are told to contribute, to obtain sponsors to pay us when we run marathons, all to donate money to find a cure.

Now we find out that Komen has so much money they can afford to give it out to BIG-BUSINESSES that have absolutely nothing to do with finding a cure.

Either Komen is mis-managing their money, or their true intent is not to find a cure, or they have more money than they really know how to spend.

And why did Komen not come out directly and say, “There is evidence of a link between abortion and breast cancer. Because of that, we cannot ask for money for breast-cancer research and fund a BIG BUSINESS that provides abortions, which may well be leading to breast cancer.”


165 posted on 02/03/2012 4:57:46 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival. (Ron Paul is the Lyndon Larouche of the 21st century.))
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To: Responsibility2nd

I got it too. I was just coming here to find out if others got it. I didn’t even get a chance to respond to her talking point - she was banned. Oh well.


166 posted on 02/03/2012 5:00:07 PM PST by Pinkbell
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167 posted on 02/03/2012 5:08:45 PM PST by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

Komen runs the Death To The Unborn March...right? For every step people take they are crushing the unborn into the dust. Pathetic, isn’t it?


168 posted on 02/03/2012 5:21:12 PM PST by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: alancarp

Komen is going to hold a big fundraising marathon in the Dallas area.. good time for billboards, protesters on that route IMO.


169 posted on 02/03/2012 5:23:54 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Truthsearcher

I hope people cancel those checks and paypal donations


170 posted on 02/03/2012 5:25:50 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Responsibility2nd

This was banner headlines in the Dallas paper slamming Komen for cutting off the funds.

sickening.


171 posted on 02/03/2012 5:27:31 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Rape and incest do not change the fact that the unborn child is a human being. And the last, Life of the Mother? Quite often that includes the woman just telling her Dr that she is not emotionally stable enough to go through with it, or I do not feel well, I am stressed, I am at the end of my rope etc etc

Was not trying to pick a fight with you. There was a really nice young girl on tv recently with her mother, the mother had been raped, and the daughter is so glad that her mother did not abort her.

Also look no further than Tebow :)


172 posted on 02/03/2012 5:38:37 PM PST by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR FLIPPIN BUST)
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To: Responsibility2nd

This is what I told her:

Post your comment on the thread, not Freepmail.

Besides, if you can’t murder your mother, why should your mother be allowed to murder you?


173 posted on 02/03/2012 5:38:59 PM PST by donna (I want to live in a Judeo/Christian country where we know that, before God, men & women are equal.)
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To: OregonMom

You were nit together in your mother’s womb and given the opportunity to live, breath and send those FRmails. Not sure why you commented the way you did. I’m sorry if you have ever made that catastrophic decision. Guilt of conscience will either humble you before the living God, asking forgiveness (1 John 1), or it will harden your heart and soul to the Truth and drive you to try to smother your conscience in pro-abortion rhetoric. Please reconsider.

I’ll pray for you.


174 posted on 02/03/2012 5:47:30 PM PST by 444Flyer (werien)
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To: wardaddy
if you look at who runs Komen, it looks like a Geffen-Speilberg meets Harold Simmon’s pissed off daughter's lawn party in Highland Park...ripe with lefty socially radical liberals from urban areas...nearly all pro abort women apparently

Exactly! Komen gets a lot of money from corporations run by liberal yuppies. I was surprised when they stopped funding PP; I'm not at all surprised they caved when they realized that decision would get them snubbed at cocktail parties and the country club.

175 posted on 02/03/2012 6:19:24 PM PST by feralcat
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To: Biggirl
...identifies nonprofit organizations that have ties to Planned Parenthood. Komen appears in the section, along with groups such as AARP, American Cancer Society, Boys & Girls Clubs, Doctors Without Borders, Girl Scouts, March of Dimes, Muscular Dystrophy Association, National Education Association, Red Cross, Ronald McDonald House Charities, Rotary Clubs, Salvation Army, Save the Children, YMCA, and YWCA.

Like you, until today, I wasn't aware the ACS was involved with PP.

176 posted on 02/03/2012 6:52:01 PM PST by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: Monkey Face
I've been dealing with CFIDS for 6+ years now. It has been an absolute nightmare. I look back at my life before this started and I don't even recognize myself.

After a particularly bad relapse last summer, I started on the Myhill Protocol, which has helped tremendously, but the best part has been that after going on it and doing different testing, they've finally discovered what (I hope) is the problem. At first they thought I had been exposed to toxic VOCs (which I have been), but then they discovered a deep-seated infection that has been festering in my sinus for over 8 years. I'm not out of the woods yet, but getting better. The good news is that my thyroid has been bouncing back like a champion... and for five or so years, I had been led to believe that my thyroid was shot.

177 posted on 02/03/2012 6:52:01 PM PST by ponygirl
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To: alancarp
A Planned Parenthood rep said today that they were angry that Komen caved to "political bullies" when they halted funding to them. What we are seeing is that Planned Parenthood, the Liberal elites, NOW, Democrats and "Progressives" are really the ones who are doing the bullying. Komen withdrew funding from PP partly, maybe mainly, because not even one of their sites actually performs mammograms. All they do is refer, so Komen decided the money was better spent with organizations that directly helped women to fight breast cancer.

What you will not ever see come to light in the media and perhaps has not been made known much is that abortion may have a direct connection to actually causing breast cancer. Now, because of all the bully tactics of the anti-life brigade, Komen, which was started to help women prevent and treat breast cancer, is now being forced into paying an organization that not only promotes and performs a majority of the abortions in this country, but is contributing to one of the causes of breast cancer!

179 posted on 02/03/2012 7:07:15 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: butterdezillion

I’m with you on that!


180 posted on 02/03/2012 7:13:28 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yeah, I got one.


181 posted on 02/03/2012 7:13:28 PM PST by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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To: palmer

Whoops, I’m late. Banned hours ago.


182 posted on 02/03/2012 7:16:54 PM PST by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Amending our criteria will ensure that politics has no place in our grant process. We will continue to fund existing grants, including those of Planned Parenthood, and preserve their eligibility to apply for future grants, while maintaining the ability of our affiliates to make funding decisions that meet the needs of their communities.

Huh? Are they really claiming that donating to PP is non-political? My Lord, they must think we're stupid.

183 posted on 02/03/2012 7:40:24 PM PST by Shethink13
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To: Carry_Okie

That is so ridiculous.


184 posted on 02/03/2012 8:05:34 PM PST by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - SocratesH)
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To: Shelayne; Captain Peter Blood
It's still a precious baby, no matter how he was conceived. That is of little importance to that baby. That baby will fight to live even under the most harrowing medical circumstances. Shouldn't we give him that right?

This MUST be the true argument we put forward. Captain, you said to use "logic" about this point. Here is the logic. When the Roe vs. Wade decision was presented to the USSC it was stated as a right for a woman who had been the victim of rape or incest. Jean McCorvey - Jane Roe - had initially tried to get an abortion in Texas, where it was outlawed unless the life of the mother was threatened (something ALL states provided for). She was denied, so she was talked into being a plaintiff for those who wanted to bring a challenge all the way to the Supreme Court. She had initially said she had been raped, so they started the local proceedings on those grounds. What she later admitted was that she had not been raped, but had consensual sex and did not want to go through another unwanted pregnancy. Her first child had been given up for adoption. This did not stop her attorneys in their crusade, they had bigger plans anyway.

As it turned out, the trials delayed any findings for her and she went through the pregnancy and gave this child up for adoption, too. Ms. McCorvey has since become a Christian and she regrets deeply what she was used to do. She works for Crisis Pregnancy ministries helping women in unplanned pregnancies to choose life for their children.

Now all that happened in 1973 to make abortion "legal" throughout the country started with a lie. The lie that the conditions of how a child was conceived, could determine if the mother could legally end its life. Roe vs. Wade started out being a law that made abortion legal conditional upon a "trimester" scale. A companion case, Doe Vs. Bolton, defined the conditions for a woman to legally end her child's life and it has basically been eroded through the years so much that a woman can have an abortion at any time in her pregnancy - even in the ninth month - and for any reason. We have what is called abortion on demand in this country. And it all started based upon a woman who was pregnant because of rape.

When the justices decided rape or incest could be an "exception", then the argument stopped being about the states "compelling" interest in protecting the life of an innocence human being and the right to life of another human being, to a woman's right to choose whether or not she wanted to continue to allow the child already conceived to live. Her "right to privacy" was invoked, from "a penumbra of an emanation" of there being such a right in the Constitution. This presumed right to privacy superseded the right to life.

Now, in some people's world this is acceptable. Where I see it heading is this "right" - which has terminated the lives of nearly 60 MILLION Americans, so far - will give way to the rights of your children to not be burdened with you when you are too old to take care of yourself and they don't want their inheritance to be eaten up by nursing homes. You, in your time, had the right to end their lives if it was "inconvenient" for you. They may soon be able to reciprocate. Something to think about.

185 posted on 02/03/2012 8:25:20 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

Good one! I was thinking their pink ribbon with the ends dripping in blood would be good, too.


186 posted on 02/03/2012 8:33:51 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: ponygirl

After 24+ years, I’m here to tell you that whoever you were before the onset of CFIDS, you will never see that person again!

I don’t know where you are or what your situation is, but this much I can tell you: I have lost a job, a car, an apartment, a husband and ny credit because of CFIDS.

Talk to me. Tell me what is happening to you and how you feel about the changes in your life. I have been through it all and I can tell you how to deal with it!


187 posted on 02/03/2012 8:34:46 PM PST by Monkey Face (Stop repeat offenders. Don't re-elect them!)
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To: alancarp

Walking 60 miles to fund excessive executive salaries is unsettling too. But the pink sheep will be there in all their self righteousness.


188 posted on 02/03/2012 8:35:50 PM PST by RGSpincich
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To: Rutles4Ever
This is an incredible mistake. The fact that a wide majority of people had no idea they were funneling cash to Planned Parenthood actually provided a backstop to the fallout from cutting it off.

Yep. Also - take lemons and make lemonade. Our side can use this to expose how this money is being used and to what purpose.

189 posted on 02/03/2012 9:28:33 PM PST by plain talk
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To: wagglebee

Couldn’t see that one coming.

I never did support them but this will guarantee that now it will NEVER happen.


190 posted on 02/03/2012 9:59:39 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Hildy
That is so ridiculous.

Women who have never breast fed children have higher incidences of breast cancer. Deal with it.

191 posted on 02/03/2012 10:19:07 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The RNC would prefer Obama to a conservative nominee.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Got a FReepmail from somebody... here's the exchange with my (longer) answer:

Komen was right to reverse course. Having an abortion is a decision that should be made between a woman and her doctor. THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD STAY OUT!

The Government isn't involved here. Neither Planned Parenthood or Komen-for-the-cure are government agencies. You're reading that wrong. Here's the problems I have with it:

1. Komen had been publicly saying that all donations go to breast cancer research. For years, that has been a lie. That's problem #1.

2. Research has proven a link between abortions and increased risk of breast cancer. In other words, support by Komen for the leading abortion provider in America is counter-productive to their stated cause.

3. Just the idea that Komen's purpose is - in theory - to save lives runs against the the purpose of abortion: to take lives.

Now... there's the "logic" behind this... obviously if you're supporting a pro-choice potion, you're in the minority on this site... obviously you know my view. However, like you, I also believe the Government shouldn't be involved... I will explain.

a. I believe Planned Parenthood should be completely defunded from government budgets around the nation.

b. I believe there should be no taxpayer support for abortion in health care, medicade, medicare, health plans for government workers, or anything that mingles taxpayer dollars and abortion.

b. A Constitutional amendment guaranteeing the right of the unborn to live would settle the matter forever and the government would be able to ignore it forever. Life should be preserved, even from the womb. If a pregnancy is unwanted, it can be prevented before it even starts -- that's the proper and responsible way to make it happen.

However, right now, abortion is being treated as if it is a God-given right - like the freedom of speech. Clearly, that's outside of the Constitution... and things outside of the Constitution's mandates should neither exist nor be funded.

Thanks for coming by.

192 posted on 02/03/2012 11:54:50 PM PST by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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To: Admin Moderator

Ah... I should have guessed.... thanks for the troll kill.


193 posted on 02/03/2012 11:55:55 PM PST by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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To: GVnana

Pro-Lifers have been trying to warn people about the Komen Foundation for years.

All the publicity of the last two days makes the warnings even more clear and credible.

The Komen Foundation will lose support in the long run.


194 posted on 02/04/2012 1:30:45 AM PST by Nextrush (PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN IS MY DREAM)
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To: k omalley

Stop payment on that check. (If it was a check.) Or if not -— isn’t there some way to get money back for fraud?It’s worth a few phone calls, isn’t it?

Somekind of class action suit by defrauded donors banding together?


195 posted on 02/04/2012 4:04:55 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Prayer is the most difficult virtue, because it is a battle to the last breath." - Abba Agathon)
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To: alancarp

Pisses me off, I had JUST SENT them some money, and said in my note that I was sending it because they cut their ties with abortionists.

Ugh. Makes me want to vomit. I wonder if I can stop the credit card donation.


196 posted on 02/04/2012 5:23:54 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: alancarp
Abortion issue aside, it was my understanding that the SGKF was giving the $$ to PP in the form of a grant, i.e., voluntarily.

What I don't get is, who the hell is PP (and their supporters) to demand that another organization continue to give them $$?!

Although, in these current Obama-times where the entitlement mentality is so rampant, I shouldn't be so surprised.

With a shakedown like this, I wonder if Jesse Jackson was involved? /sarc

197 posted on 02/04/2012 6:16:34 AM PST by mellow velo
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To: SoFloFreeper

I would certainly give it a try.


198 posted on 02/04/2012 6:37:12 AM PST by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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To: alancarp
My previous post, to which I was thinking she was sending the FRmail in reply, had already explained that abortion is correlated with higher incidence of breast cancer, with the implicit implication of the Komen Foundation as either clueless or macabre. So I wasn't quite as patient in my reply to her FReepmail.

I take it you think the child is property.

Are you property?

When did you become alive?

When did you become a person?

So, if someone wanted to kill you, to whom would you turn if not the government?

If someone wants to kill a baby, to whom does the baby turn?

You are therefore lying as a matter of convenience because the matter of who dies is not just between you and the doctor. There is a third party involved, the baby.

If the baby becomes dehumanized, so do you.

QED.

Glad to help with your deficient education,

CO

Couple of holes in the loop, but I was trying to make it tight.
199 posted on 02/04/2012 8:04:34 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The RNC would prefer Obama to a conservative nominee.)
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To: alancarp

Komen should force PPs hand by publicly insisting that they provide mammograms. Komen is a breast cancer organization, and they should insist on that. I think that most people are unaware that Planned NO-Parenthood does NO mammograms, and it would put them on the defensive.

They can kill babies in-house, but they can’t do mammograms. Why not?


200 posted on 02/04/2012 8:17:12 AM PST by Hilda
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