Skip to comments.How to spot a concealed handgun
Posted on 02/04/2012 7:20:48 AM PST by marktwain
Self-defense in modern society is about far more than carrying a gun, it's also about developing situational awareness. This means knowing where you are and what's going on around you at all times.
One vital element of situational awareness seldom taught in concealed carry classes is how to spot a concealed handgun. Just as you hope to have the element of surprise if you find yourself in a life-threatening situation, you want to avoid being surprised by an armed attacker.
Based on the experience of Robert T. Gallagher, former NYPD detective, Anti-Robbery Tactical Unit, this detailed illustration, titled Spotting a Hidden Handgun, explains some of the visual cues that reveal when someone is carrying a handgun.
You can also use this information to avoid providing others with the same visual cues which may alert them that you are carrying concealed.
I carry my LCP .380 in my right front pants pocket. Then I put my iPhone on top of it. All that shows is the outline of the iPhone
That works! Love it.
Im thinking cargo shorts and carrying in a pocket may be as good as it gets.
My pants are slightly baggy. And it’s not cause it’s hip or cool. They allow me to carry extra “baggage”.
Exactly. I am always alert when walking city streets. You would probably call me paranoid. So far, it has worked for me.
I just feel really bad when I am in a city where I cannot carry (CCW).
So they don't freak out at the bank or the grocery store?
Even better hammerless.
Any hints for us ladies that carry in our purses ? I carry a S&W .357 magnum. Sucker takes up a lot of room. Are there purses made for gun carrying ?
I used to carry a little Browning but have found that thugs and vermin don’t have enough respect for a woman with a little gun. However if you pull out that big revolver, instant respect.
On that second, waistband carry, aka “Mexican Carry”, is just brain dead stooopid.
My KelTec .32 is so small and light I had to prove to a DPS trooper (ever so slowly and carefully)that I was armed after informing him per the Texas CHL laws during a traffic stop on my Harley. (P)
I cut a small slit in the bottom of my Wrangler’s watch pocket and it stays at the top of my pocket, covered by a t-shirt.
A person wearing 5.11 clothing is also a good sign that they are carrying.
Another GOOD aspect of living in Texas, not being surrounded by lib weinies.
They don't mind you packing in the bank?
It looks like the majority of these cues are due to not having a holster at all.
Is anyone familiar with the Smart Holster, sits in front below the belt? I’ve heard claims you can carry a 1911 and sit, drive etc. with no problem.
My problem is I play music in bars and have groupies hugging me all the time. I’m thinking ankle holster with boots or Smart Holster is my only hope.
Exactly. I have carried concealed for the last 20 years. I want those that need to know like cops, criminals and other carriers to know. In my few interactions with police over the years I have seen the officer pause a few seconds while they make the evaluation that I am not a threat. (BTW, not once have I been asked to produce my permit.) I have seen gang bangers look me over and determine that I am a threat. Once I was being followed by some youths on public transit while unarmed (not legal at the time.) I turned to face them and adjusted my phantom shoulder holster and they decided to take another direction.
It's not going to feel very safe when you have to rack the slide with the hand your attacker has already broken, for example.
You want to be careful with those types. There was a wallet holster similar to that which was declared by the NFA/ATF to be an “Any Other Weapon” (AOW) legal only when registered.
I forgot which aspect made it hinky, but Galco (I believe) had to recall a bunch of them, as they were felonies to possess unless registered, like when the old Street Sweepers were declared to be Destructive Devices.
My understanding is that a business must post a notice outside banning carry.
I rarely go into a bank.
It is a chance I would be willing to take. I am not LE, and am not normally in areas where there are bad guys. Plus, the sound of a round chambering has a very sobering effect on an attacker.
I was a CG reserve watchstander for 14 years (+6 Air Nat. Guard = 20). There were at least 3 weapons incidents in our unit, maybe more during that time frame. Every LE officer has an accidental discharge story to tell. I heard of a local weapons instructor who shot the tipp of his finger off.
I practice at the range chambering without jamming, and I know how to do that with my weapon.
Situational awareness will provide me with the 2 seconds I need to chamber, and with me it's safety first.
Link from article shows no evidence for an ankle holster.
Are you glad to see me?
I live in an open carry state, and am in and out of three different banks regularly with no problems. The only questions I've ever had were on the order of; 'watcha packin'?'. I do have a CCW, and CC most of the time, but like I said, no problems in banks. Costco on the other hand, asked me to leave the one time I open carried there, and they didn't have any signs at the entrance disallowing firearms.
I've been CC'ing for 20+ years and the best advice I can give is to: a) Use a retension holster. b) Wear it on a belt designed for carrying a gun. Those two things will make the biggest difference. The gun won't flop around, or fall out, and you won't be hand-checking, or adjusting it all the time. If it's secure, you don't think about it. If you don't think about it, you'll forget it's there. If you forget it's there, you don't telegraph that you're carrying.
Personally, I CC a Glock 21 (full size .45) in a Blackhawk Serpa holster, on a 5.11 stiffend nylon gun belt. It rides at 3 o'clock, FBI style (high and canted forward) and no one can tell, even under a light shirt.
Once upon a time I carried an NAA .22LR revolver (mouse gun) folded up in a bandana under my hat.
I gave the gun to a skinny, bow-legged girl I was dating who carried it in a holster between her thighs.
It's disguised as a large frame semi-auto that he wears in a holster in his hip.
Don't stand behind him at the counter of a convenience store!
Don't say "fanny pack", say "field pack" instead.
Ask a Australian
He said "legitimately", not "approved even by fascists who wouldn't trust you with table salt". The latter is hardly a prerequisite for the former.
At the Dollar Tree. Cost.. you guessed it. Weight: zero. The materials, stitching, and piping are top notch quality, should last forever. I never cease to be amazed at how perfectly it fits. It's as if it was custom made for Ms. P.
Everywhere except the shower and marital bed. With the new +V it hits like a .9.
Is that the .22 mag?
I always wondered what the actual muzzle velocity of my .22LR was. It would penetrate 3/4” plywood, but barely.
Once I owned a Beretta Minx in .22 Short. I was out in the desert plinking at 5 gallon metal paint cans, but I kept missing (???). No holes in the can.
Finally, I moved up to about 15 feet and fired where I could not miss.
I heard the bullet whir past my ear. They were BOUNCING OFF THE SHEET METAL CAN.
That Beretta jammed a lot too. Sold it.
I was thinking of one of those new Apple tablet or smartphone cases that you wear on a belt clip Apple logo and all and convert it into a holster, I carry a pocket .380 and you probably even with a trained ey would not see it when I wear winter clothing, an advantage living in colder climates.
I believe the .22 shorts are often subsonic and most useful for discreet assassinations of enemy spies at a baccarat table at a distance of less than zero yards.
A holster that is considered a “Any other weapon”? These types of holsters (known as shoot throughs) are not classified as a weapon, and a pistol inside one of the holsters is not classified any differently.
(Assuming of course that the pistol still looks like a pistol, ie: exposed slide&muzzle)
A holster that is considered a Any other weapon? These types of holsters (known as shoot throughs) are not classified as a weapon, and a pistol inside one of the holsters is not classified any differently.
I did not know that, glad this came up.
Any Other Weapons (AOWs)this is a broad “catch-all” category used to regulate any number of firearms which the BATFE under the NFA enforces registration and taxation. Examples include, among others:
1) Smooth-bore pistols 2) Pen guns and cane guns 3) A firearm with combinations smooth bore and rifle barrels 12 inches or more but less than 18 inches in length from which only a single shot can be made from either barrel. 4) Disguised firearms 5) Firearms that can be fired from within a wallet holster or a briefcase 6) A short-barreled shotgun which came from the factory with a pistol grip is categorized as an AOW rather than a Short Barrel Shotgun (SBS), because the Gun Control Act describes a shotgun as designed or redesigned to be fired from the shoulder 7) Handguns with a forward vertical grip.
I’m not wrong, I know quite a bit about NFA, and I offered no advice. It’s a plain fact that you are wrong and a bit of a jerk to boot.
Re: 96, my De Santis pocket holster for my little Ruger LCP (which looks just like the one in your picture) looks a lot like that. It strongly resembles a wallet when I carry it in my back pocket. Great for running in seedy areas.
Pretty comfortable once you get used to it.
I use a retention holster or a Smart Carry.
Retention when it's colder and a cover garment does not look out of place. No worries about the gun shifting, falling out, or needing adjustment as a proper belt-to-holster arrangement fixes this issue.
In warmer weather, the Smart Carry rig allows completely free movement with no one the wiser unless you are doing a serious "bump and grind" out on the dance floor.
"Is that a pistol in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?"
All that being said, I'd still prefer open carry. The element of surprise in responding to an attack is not sufficient enough excuse in comparison to projecting strength and preventing said attack. IMO.
Major situational awareness fail if she got close enough to him to "slam" him without him knowing she was there.