Skip to comments.With Mitt in the lead, anti-Romney Republicans weigh their options
Posted on 02/04/2012 3:31:39 PM PST by Clintonfatigued
Those who continue to believe that Romney can be stopped are focused as is the campaign of Newt Gingrich on the possibility of a long delegate fight. They have largely given up hope of anyone winning a knockout victory over Romney, hoping instead that some other candidate can prevent the former Massachusetts governor from wrapping the race up before the Republican National Convention, which is set for Tampa, Fla., in late August.
We have never gone through a delegate fight like this, said Bob Vander Plaats, an influential conservative and the head of the Iowa-based Family Leader organization. You need around 600 delegates to win, and I think that will be very difficult for Gov. Romney.
Vander Plaats added that the reason Gingrich has been emphasizing that there are 46 states to go in the contest is because he can do the math.
Similar themes are sounded by prominent conservatives in the media. Erick Erickson of Red State wrote Thursday that the fact that many states award their delegates proportionally, rather than on a winner-take-all basis, could play to Gingrichs advantage.
If Gingrich is serious about staying in till the convention, he could deny Romney a first ballot win and spare the base from the man they dont like, even if Newt himself cannot get the nomination. He is more of a long shot today than he was a day before Florida, but he can still be the nominee, Erickson wrote.
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Don’t support Newt. He would lose big among women voters.
As Yogi Berra would have put it, this seems like Déjà vu all over again.
In 1986, California's über-liberal Democratic Senator Alan Cranston seemed vulnerable. But of the 12 or so Republican candidates, 11 were conservative, and only one, Rep. Ed Zschau, was liberal. Although conservatives dominated the California GOP at the time, the 11 conservatives split up the vote, and Zschau (as in Mao) won with about a third of the votes. Because there was no runoff, Zschau got the nomination.
This placed conservatives in a dilemma. Much as they hated Cranston, Zschau's voting record was very similar--for one thing, he was pro-abortion and rabidly anti-military. Another factor was that Cranston, due to his age, would likely serve only one more term, whereas Zschau, being young, would likely become a liberal fixture in the Senate--like Clifford Case (R-NJ) or Jake "the snake" Javits (R-NY)--and being a Republican, he would face no serious GOP challenger. We conservatives found ourselves screwed either way. I wound up voting third party, and a friend whose views are to the right of my own voted for Cranston.
In the end, Cranston narrowly won.
The only way to stop Romney is for Santorum to drop out, endorse Newt, and get the VP nod in exchange. Additionally, massive amounts of money needs to flow into his campaign.
“Just think. The first American presidential race in history where neither candidate is a Christian.”
If it’s Romney against Obama it will be and the media will inform us that a poll has been taken and only thirteen percent correctly answered that BOTH Obama and Romney are Christians. At the same time they will tell us that unemployment is down to six percent and pink Unicorns are almost as plentiful as pink plastic Flamingos.
Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein thank you. You should add that Republicans have never stood a better chance in California since. About 26 years ago. Hey lets do this on a national level, that way we can also lose them all for a quarter of a century. It seems we are determined to bite off our nose in order to spite our face. I have a better idea, why don’t we just win this November with whoever wins the nomination and then take it from there.
Just think. The first American presidential race in history where neither candidate is a Christian.
Just think,(first time also),that we have a man whose running that thinks he is going to become a god vs. a man who thinks he is a god. Dear God help us.
WE FELL FOR THAT LAST TIME!!!!! Sarah is the ONLY reason we
accepted McCain, NOT THIS TIME I DO NOT CARE WHO IS ON THE
TICKET,!!!!! FOOL ME ONCE AND ONCE ONLY!!!!!!!
I am a woman and Romney makes my skin crawl, he is a sleazy car
salesman PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!!! I am not that crazy about Newt
but I lived through the media destruction of Newt. GO NEWT!!!!!!
Not even if Sarah Palin was his VP? Hmmmm That’s the kind of logic that got us Obama in the first place. The kind of logic that had my Precinct Committee Officer Write-In his own name on the 2008 ballot.
RP will get my vote in VA.
“they will have to forgo the strong desire to win national elections for awhile.”
As long as the establishment is setting the agenda and essentially controlling the GOP, the conservatives really are not winning anything. Nominating a Democrat like Romney is a good example of that- a Northeastern gungrabbing liberal who took the first steps towards socialized medicine shouldn’t even be considered as a Republican dogcatcher. And yet, that’s what they are doing. I wouldn’t think at this point its a matter of wanting to- its a matter of having to. The lengths to which the elites are going to select their candidate are proof that they only want conservative votes, and their candidate’s track record proves they don’t want conservative policy. With allies like that, who needs enemies?
You had better get your facts straight.
First of all, my post was about the 1986 race. Barbara Boxer ran in 1992, narrowly beating Bruce Herschensohn, a solid conservative for whom I worked my heart out. Herschensohn would probably have won if President Bush hadn't abandoned California during his re-election campaign.
And why should Dianne Feinstein thank me? After all, I did vote for her opponent, the Republican incumbent John Seymour (pronounced "see more," as in "see more taxes"), whom Pete Wilson appointed to fill his old Senate seat when he was elected governor, even though Seymour was a pro-abortion in-your-face liberal.
Dont support Newt. He would lose big among women voters.
Newt has no problem with women having equal rights..
The one with the baggage as far as women go is Romney
That women are 2nd class citizens owned by their husbands wont win him a lot of votes...
We have never gone through a delegate fight like this”
Yes because usually the conservatives let the establishment jam some moderate down our throats. This year we are a little peeved about it.
Write ins do not count in Virginia.
I’ll vote constitution party, if Romney is the GOP candidate.
I’m AM going to vote for an alternative. I will not vote for either of the two Alinsky disciples, Obama and Romney.
Damn right he won't.
Before this is over, he'll wish he was a dog strapped to the roof of a car.
That's because it is not really a political party but a disorganized group of pissed off REAL AMERICANS.
If the mormon bishop and the RNC elite succeed in buying the GOP nomination, then the Tea Party fields a candidate for POTUS, and becomes a real political party dedicated to the destruction of the Washingtonians.
I'm for letting the communists own the collapse.
Putting the blue blood country clubbers in for another 8 years is just putting off the inevitable.
Time coming soon to hit the reset button on this Republic and wipe the slate clean, and that means taking out the Washingtonians from both parties.
Used to think that if DC were nuked by the muzzies, it would be a crippling blow.
Sick thing is that it would probably be the best thing ever to happen to the American citizen.
After the US goes the way of the USSR.
You obviously haven't the slightest idea what Obama is.
I think Reagan lost the first five primaries, but Rick and Newt each won a contest, so the race is very wide open.
In this, you are mistaken.
Nope. Not going to do it again.
BTW. The collapse is coming. If Willard somehow wins the presidential election he will continue the same ridiculous spending and it will happen on the Republican's watch.
My wife has a friend who belongs to the LDS Church. her friend told her that she had many misgivings about Romney and that this has togo to the RNC if need be..
My understanding in Tennessee that write-ins are allowed but they have to be registered.
Write-ins are not allowed in VA that I’m aware of.
“Are write-in votes counted in Virginia?”
No. Not in the primary. While the law doesn’t specifically prohibit the GOP from counting write-ins, they’re not required to either. This is the same group who decided to drop Gingrich and Perry from the ballot, so I wouldn’t plan on them opting to count write-ins.
I just did a search. There is a petition out for write-in votes
I just did a search. There is a petition out in Virginia for write-in votes
Don't stay home. If you want to leave the selection for president blank, that is your privilege. However think about that we must not just take the Senate back, and not just by a majority, but the Super majority, plus adding more seats to the House. Think about what we can do
Since conservatives are unable to coalesce around a single candidate, why noy just vote for Gingrich, Paul or Santorum (take your pick) for the purpose of denying Romney the needed number of delegates heading in to Tampa?
Staying home won’t solve the problem, neither will it prevent Romney from steamrolling to the nomination. However, VOTING AGAINST HIM will atleast improve our chances of forcing a floor-fight at the convention.
What say you?
I think it’s ridiculous to ask for Santorum to drop out. We still have a long way to go.
You have to be registered to vote in TN period. I did one time a write-in vote for a candidate for a local office and I registered in Tennessee as Republican in 1979
Amen, that is where the last election left us.
What you think is possible and having Rick Sanotrumon the ticket could persuade some Freepers to reluctantly vote for Romney.
I’m of the opinion that we need to deny Romney a majority of delegates before the convention. If the convention deadlocks, someone else will have to be chosen. Newt Gingrich can’t do this alone, but if he, Santorum, and others can garner enough delegates to deny Romney a majority, we can shape things in our direction.
Justice Louis Brandeis, Olmstead v US, 1928.
Regarding VA, some display of contempt for excluding Newt and Rick by voting for Paul would send a good message.
You have a great point there. Being a no-show would not be good, and we need to make some local changes, too.
No it would not and if everyone would think like that, not only would that arrogant, lazy lying pos occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave get reelected, the rats the House back and increase their majority in the Senat
I don’t think Romney would be a bit better than what we already have, but changes in Congress could make a world of difference.
Because only Romney and Paul are on the primary ballot in Virginia. Hence, the vote for Paul.
Ditto. The VP does NOT change the fact that Slick Willie Romnuts is still pro-sodomite and pro-death. No vote for Romney under my roof...death before dishonor.
I guess you'll have to educate me. On what issue would Mitt Romney adopt a position that is substantially different than Obama? As governor, Mitt Romney was a liberal governor, in other words, a Rockefeller Republican. Rockefeller Republicans occupy the liberal end of the spectrum, not the moderate portion.
Great! Get back to me if you find out more about the petition. Perhaps a link I can ping VA Freepers to. In TN they can write in and the votes are counted.
In Tennessee they are and some other states also
Not so. In Tennessee a candidate must be pre qualified to be eligible for write in, in the primary. In the general election , you may vote for Mickey Mouse if you like
I don’t know why Newt would not be on the ballot in some counties. In Tennessee one must be pre qualified to be written in ,in the primary. Newt meets that requirement as far as I know