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Military Tells Catholic Chaplains What They Can and Can't Say
Human Events ^ | 2/3/2012 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 02/04/2012 7:14:16 PM PST by grcuster

Last week Cardinal-designate Timothy Dolan lashed out at the Obama Administration for forcing religious organizations to go out into the marketplace and buy a product that violates their conscience. The rule would force Christian organizations to provide free contraceptives, sterilizations and abortion drugs to workers even though this violates Catholic Church teaching. The new rules are so strict that most Catholic institutions will not qualify for an exem

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catholic; military
Continue attacks on our Christian faith and the foundation of our country. This idiot needs to be removed from office this year. I would hate to see what this country would be like if obozo is re-elected.
1 posted on 02/04/2012 7:14:25 PM PST by grcuster
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To: grcuster

what part of freedom of religion do they not understand or like.

It cannot be more perfectly clear, in the 1st amendment but it also shows that overturning don’;t ask was another step in their socialist agenda and for those around the country saying openly serving homosexuals is no bit issues then they better wake up and see how now religion and the military is under attack

Romney and obama have to be defeated, we just cannot take 4 more years of this socialist and cowardly acts’


2 posted on 02/04/2012 7:17:57 PM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: grcuster

I would hate to see what this country would be like if obozo is re-elected.


It will be an absolute disaster. It’s bad enough now but he will become a dictator if reelected.


3 posted on 02/04/2012 7:19:01 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: unkus

I believe we will see that disaster.

It is hard to believe, but there are millions who think this evil Muslim is the messiah.


4 posted on 02/04/2012 7:22:27 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer

there are millions who love hi because they hear the MSM, the MSM is our enemy and the enemy of truth and facts.

If he does get another 4 more years then it will show how this country has produced millions of dumb people and it will show how the left has advanced their agenda


5 posted on 02/04/2012 7:25:06 PM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: grcuster

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/joiningthemilitary/a/oathofenlist.htm

The above link will take you to the oath all military take when they join.

Any military person worth with ethics would refuse to follow an order to defy the Constitution, which in this case involves freedom of religion.


6 posted on 02/04/2012 7:27:25 PM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: Venturer
Way too early to get depressed. It is February.

If the job rate stays the same anyone could beat OJerko.
Why they a cooking the work rate books so early puzzles me.
We don't even know who are rep is yet.

7 posted on 02/04/2012 7:28:57 PM PST by AGreatPer (Obama has NEVER given a speech where he did not lie!!!)
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To: unkus

zer0bama. ad0lph hitler, j0sepf stalin, ma0, p0lp0t. castr0. Anyone see a pattern?


8 posted on 02/04/2012 7:30:42 PM PST by MtnClimber (Tim Tebow will never be successful in the NFL - Leftist journalists who have sold their souls)
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To: AGreatPer

just remember to vote...............do not sit this one out.

anyone but obama...


9 posted on 02/04/2012 7:32:09 PM PST by tankrlm
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To: Venturer

We’re now in a Marxist dominated Oligarchy. The opposition to all his (Obama’s) treachery is minimal and not effective and is mostly for show. Corruption on all sides is to the core.


10 posted on 02/04/2012 7:33:52 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: old curmudgeon

Hopefully the majority will uphold their oaths.

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/


11 posted on 02/04/2012 7:37:04 PM PST by grcuster
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To: grcuster; All

Read the two updates, Good News,

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/u-s-military-silences-catholic-chaplains-from-speaking-out-against-obama-admin-ruling/

Freedom of Religion is a Constitutional right along with the freedom of speech, Update 1

ARMY backing off, Update 2


12 posted on 02/04/2012 7:39:38 PM PST by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution)
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To: grcuster

Military Tells Catholic Chaplains What They Can and Can't Say

I wonder....have any Muslim clerics associated with the US military been issued similar missives?

13 posted on 02/04/2012 7:47:13 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Do all He commands. Receive all He promises.)
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To: MtnClimber

zer0bama. ad0lph hitler, j0sepf stalin, ma0, p0lp0t. castr0. Anyone see a pattern?


Evil bastards, all.


14 posted on 02/04/2012 7:47:47 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: tankrlm
anyone but obama...

Or Romney.

/johnny

15 posted on 02/04/2012 7:47:51 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: manc
what part of freedom of religion do they not understand or like.

The Freedom part. The of part. The Religion part.

That pretty much covers it.

1st Amendment says "Congress shall make no law..."

2nd Amendment says "...shall not be infringed".

Even with 14th Amendment incorporation (debatable), States can't make Congress make a federal law about establishing a religion.

But strictly speaking, I think states can (and actually did, for years).

But "... shall not be infringed" seems to cover fedgov and states.

But this is like kicking a dead whale down the beach.

We lost over 100 years ago.

All we can do now is try to resurrect a real Constitutional Republic.

/johnny

16 posted on 02/04/2012 7:55:35 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: unkus

Yes: I believe you are right.

For far too long in America, we have been led by corrupt career politicians. Why, there isn’t over 50 of what I would call Patriots in the whole of the Congress.

A few of them might have started out all right, but they most have been corrupted, by money, power, and perks.

As long ass there are people who can build Millions to stay in office it will never stop.

We need to have all left over Campaign funds turned over to the IRS so that all candidates start our fairly,and we need term limits, and we need it bad.


17 posted on 02/04/2012 7:57:41 PM PST by Venturer
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To: JRandomFreeper

hear you and agree with you


18 posted on 02/04/2012 7:58:53 PM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

now now, that would be silly, he said we have to respect their religion and give the their food while in prison.

You know what, how can anyone on the left still support this guy.

I mean this is amongst others a direct assault on the constitution and even lefty’;s up in the north east they must surely see Catholics under attack, their is no justification for this unless they openly say they hate Catholics and the constitution


19 posted on 02/04/2012 8:04:12 PM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: grcuster

For way too many years the Catholic church has looked the pther way as Democrats in office who were also Catholics have supported abortion and the Catholic Church stood by and kept it’s mouth shut as millions of babies were murdered. Happy that the Kerry’s, Kennedy’s and Pelosi’s were members of the Catholic faith.

For 50 years the Cathloc Church has supported illegal immigration to the extent they aid those who are already here, and encourage more to come here.

For as long as I can remember the Catholic Church has supported an New World Order, a one world financial system to redistribute wealth, and has supported socialism.

Now they find themselves reaping th eharvest they have sown with the socialists they have helped to put in power. The Democrat socialists recieved 54% of the Catholic vote.

I for one will do NOTHING to aid the Catholic Church as long as they continue to support the above issues and continue to allow pro-abortion democrats in their ranks.

God will judge those who supported abortion, IF the Catholic Church is for God then they need to make a stand, otherwise they will fall.

They have reaped the wind and are reaping the whirlwind, so be it.


20 posted on 02/04/2012 8:06:10 PM PST by stockpirate (Romney, Ann Coulter & our ruling republican SOCIALISTelites, are Big Government socialists,)
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To: grcuster

3 way street: the right way; the wrong way and the army way


21 posted on 02/04/2012 8:08:11 PM PST by ninonitti
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To: grcuster

>I would hate to see what this country would be like if obozo is re-elected.<

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Judging by the person that the GOP plans to run against Obama, you will soon enough find out.


22 posted on 02/04/2012 8:21:27 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: AGreatPer; manc; unkus

My Church is dying and so is my country.

The Bishops who were pushing for Obama were either in denial or damned fools.They saw Jeremiah Wright, they saw Obamacare coming, they saw what was in it and they denied it.Now they have been bitten and they have their feelings hurt.Many today see what Obamacare is and still deny the death panels, the planned parenthood abortion money, the threat to Doctors and healthcare.
Are they frigging blind.?
The Bishops were so anxious to get more Hispanic Catholics in this country , in their pews,that they ignored what was in front of their eyes.

They watched as Pelosi, Biden, Kennedy, and other so-called Catholics supported abortion, and they did nothing. They still do nothing,,and now they Whine because Obamacare has bitten them on the ass.Finally they open their eyes, but only because of Birth Control and Sterilisation, they still do not recognise or do not care,that illegals are costing us Billions, that we cannot live on borrowed money and inflated dollars printed to falsely give the impression that we arent in trouble.

They have made a stinking mess of cleaning up the Church of bad priests,and this has thrown the good ones in a bad light.Thousands of Catholics no longer go to Confession, millions are using Birth Control,some lesbian nuns want to be priests.

What a mess. What a friggin mess.

Guess I better go put my flameproof suit on.


23 posted on 02/04/2012 8:22:38 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

They are the ones issuing the directives.


24 posted on 02/04/2012 8:24:00 PM PST by 353FMG
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Obama’s big goat # of the 1st Amendment.


25 posted on 02/04/2012 8:30:14 PM PST by Gene Eric (C'mon, Virginia -- are you with us or against us?!)
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To: Venturer

You are right. You, like many others are sick of what has happened and rightly so. No need to put on a flame proof suit.


26 posted on 02/04/2012 8:50:27 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: grcuster
I would imagine that it would look like this:


27 posted on 02/04/2012 8:59:34 PM PST by Buddy Sorrell (It's Algebra, Uncle Fletcher.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

HA! Nidal Hassan spewed anti-American islamic hate while lecturing wearing the uniform. What did he get? Promoted to major and sent to Ft. Hood, where he could murder soldiers.

It seems Muslim “doctors” have more rights to speak about their religion than Christian chaplains.


28 posted on 02/04/2012 10:21:00 PM PST by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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