Skip to comments.Ask a cop: Why the anonymity?(UT)
Posted on 02/06/2012 6:01:46 AM PST by marktwain
The last general answer seems to be a popular subject, especially with the new legislative session: laws concerning open carry and carrying concealed weapons. First off, when dealing with police, just notify us of the fact that you have a firearm. I cannot tell you how an individual officer will react, but that's what you do. Let me first say that I believe in gun ownership. I believe in defending yourself if in a life-threatening situation or defending the life of someone else.
I however do not understand the need to own an assault rifle for private use, with ammunition that will penetrate body armor. I have met exactly zero criminals who have possessed and have been wearing body armor. That doesn't mean it doesn't happen, but I have to wonder why someone would purchase ammunition or a weapon for that purpose. Do you need an AR-15 with 30-round clips to defend your house? From what? Terrorists? If you live in the country, then you can maybe justify it. But in an urban environment, I say no.
Next is the open carry. I understand the 2nd Amendment and how states and people interpret it differently. I however see no benefit, unless you're camping, of having a firearm exposed in public. There are a lot of officers in plainclothes, whether undercover or detectives, and the whole point is to not draw attention to themselves, thus giving the element of surprise. That's especially true since they do not wear vests or have the other protective advantages of a uniformed officer.
I have been to restaurants and have seen open carry groups hanging out, and I was amazed at men and women openly carrying their guns in thigh rigs, holding their children, with no sense of their surroundings or weapon retention.
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Sadly, a lot of LEOs think this way.
This cop needs to be Zumboed.
This cop doesn’t know the difference between a clip and a magazine.
I however do not understand the need to own an assault rifle for private use, with ammunition that will penetrate body armor. I have met exactly zero criminals who have possessed and have been wearing body armor. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen, but I have to wonder why someone would purchase ammunition or a weapon for that purpose.
Answer: The Second Amendment is in the Bill of Rights to protect us from the government. Government agents have body armor.
He is admitting that he has no understanding of the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution and why it was included.
" Do you need an AR-15 with 30-round clips..."
What self respecting and knowledgable cop refers to magazines as "clips"? Methinks if this guy is a cop He considers his duty weapon to be a fashion accessory.And one I wouldn't want to be around when the feces impacts the rotary cooling device.
Some quotes from the snip in the OP:
I however do not understand the need to own an assault rifle for private use
I have to wonder why someone would purchase ammunition or a weapon for that purpose.
I however see no benefit, unless you’re camping
The person can have those opinions all he wants. He is not God and his “personal sensibilities”, such that they are do not trump the constitution.
being that he is LEO, i bet he would consider himself completely justified in keeping an assault rifle in his home with lots of “clips”. wow......just wow.
The LEO answered his question on having ‘assault rifles’ with the wording of his own question: because rifle projectiles go through body armor...and other stuff.
It’s not the Bill of Needs.
This jack-ass is too stupid to be an LEO. If he can't read the US Constitution, I wonder if he could even write a parking ticket.
His failure to understand something does not mitigate my need to have something.
A common misconception about the Constitution, is that it grants rights. That could not be further from the truth. It merely recognizes some of your God given rights. The main purpose of the Constitution is to limit the federal government. The Constitution draws heavily upon natural law, and even if the Constitution were amended to eradicate the RTKABAs, that would be in violation of your God given rights. Basically, our natural rights cannot be infringed upon by any organization of men. They simply do not have the authority.
I have a side, but related issue with LEOs, at any level.
If you are acting as and representing yourself as an agent of the government, with the inherent authority granted therein,
there is no reason for you to be allowed to remain anonymous,
excepting that you are attempting to avoid responsibility
for malfeasance should you commit such.
From tyranny, which is the #1 growing threat in America.
Never, NEVER give the government a monopoly on weaponry. The second amendment to the US constitution was included for a reason, and that reason isn't hunting.
—A common misconception about the Constitution, is that it grants rights. That could not be further from the truth. It merely recognizes some of your God given rights. —
It is fun to use that argument on liberal sites. It always starts an argument that they never, ever win. ;-)
Must be overdue for a donut fix .. What part of infringement does he not understand? He doesnt understand why a citizen would want to possess an (whatever this term means) an assault rifle? Does he not understand that the stereotypical hunting rifle, be it Grandpas Winchester 94 30-30 or the beautiful walnut stocked, scoped and pampered Model 70 30-06 on Dads wall will ALSO slice through body armor? He does not understand why a citizen would want to possess a 30 round magazine? Gee, my electric can opener is potentially lethal, but I still want it. Open carry? Well, Barney here obviously doesnt want citizens (who, by the way pay HIS SALARY) to be on the same level of playing field with him. An armed society is a polite society. I live in the backcountry. I carry every day. Preferably a 357 Magnum or a 44 Magnum, although I have recently surccumed to the temptation of carrying a high capacity 9mm loaded with +P+’s. Often, theres a rifle in the truck cab with me sometimes, horror of horrors, it is a semi auto AR or AK, maybe an SKS on occasion. If a coyote is attacking my livestock, waiting for officer tootie to drop the jelly-filled and come to my rescue (VERY SLOWLY gotta write those rolling stop citations those NASTY criminals are committing) is not an option. And - if I have to run in town for any reason, I’m NOT leaving the ordinance behind - gang members move about freely, thanks to LEO incompetance. I DO, however, try to carry something concealed when in town, so as not to alarm any liberal weenies - a J frame S&W 38 Special in a baggy jacket pocket loaded with 158 grain SWCHP +P’s and a couple of speed loaders in the weak side pocket works well. This guy needs to be reminded that he is to SERVE the public - not strut about like a peacock and “interpret” the Constitution.
Thus I don’t think an officer wrote this.